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Post by daywork on Apr 15, 2017 10:05:06 GMT -5
Floyd - you have a right to your opinion. I agree it could have been handled better because their has to be a magic number where someone is like "yeah, I'll take X amount of cash and fly tomorrow". Here is where I disagree. First, the media has lied yet again and failed to tell the true story. The doctor initially AGREED to the compensation with his wife, and I believe he got off the plane with his wife. When he found out the next flight wasn't until the following day, he changed his mind and wandered back on the plane and sat down. Or maybe he agreed and then after agreeing changed his mind a few minutes later. I am not sure but that part has been left out. I look at this situation as something that is NOT new, NOT unusual, and NOT difficult for the airline crew that deal with this every day. 40,000 people were "bumped" from flights last year. 40,000 people EXACTLY like Dr Dipshit understood the rules and it worked for all of them. 400,000+ people voluntarily gave up seats last year. This IS the Free Market. The system DOES work. This has been going on our entire lives. The United Employees run into this and go through their checklist and remember - it's a flight and everything is on a clock. The get to magic number and doctor accepts. This all happens AFTER the flight is full and everyone on board, then they realize they have 4 united employees that need to get on this flight. Those 4 are important because if they don't fly, it turns from inconveniencing a few tonight to 100 tomorrow. Easy choice - mitigate the impact to the fewest possible. Shit breaks down because the man selected to get bumped initially agreed, then changed his mind, then said he refuses. Not only that, he drew a line in the sand and literally dared/told them to drag him off. Someone is definitely coming off that flight at this point so who is it going to be? Someone else? Or him? I say him. Should they have tried talking to him for 5-10 more minutes convincing him a physical altercation where he is dragged off is the last thing people want? Yes. Should he have acted like an adult and got off? Yes. But at some point, an adult that says "I refuse to leave" is getting dragged off if they won't leave. This guy was the literal one in a million that would get dragged. The "system" works fine. The free market works fine. The media did their usual partially story narrative BS and millions of people reacted to the way they messaged it. Yes people had to leave the plane. But he wasn't one of them. LOL They let him back on the plane.
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Post by ocmmafan on Apr 15, 2017 10:24:20 GMT -5
daywork - he DID not fly on that plane.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 11:21:40 GMT -5
Floyd - you have a right to your opinion. I agree it could have been handled better because their has to be a magic number where someone is like "yeah, I'll take X amount of cash and fly tomorrow". Here is where I disagree. First, the media has lied yet again and failed to tell the true story. The doctor initially AGREED to the compensation with his wife, and I believe he got off the plane with his wife. When he found out the next flight wasn't until the following day, he changed his mind and wandered back on the plane and sat down. Or maybe he agreed and then after agreeing changed his mind a few minutes later. I am not sure but that part has been left out. I look at this situation as something that is NOT new, NOT unusual, and NOT difficult for the airline crew that deal with this every day. 40,000 people were "bumped" from flights last year. 40,000 people EXACTLY like Dr Dipshit understood the rules and it worked for all of them. 400,000+ people voluntarily gave up seats last year. This IS the Free Market. The system DOES work. This has been going on our entire lives. The United Employees run into this and go through their checklist and remember - it's a flight and everything is on a clock. The get to magic number and doctor accepts. This all happens AFTER the flight is full and everyone on board, then they realize they have 4 united employees that need to get on this flight. Those 4 are important because if they don't fly, it turns from inconveniencing a few tonight to 100 tomorrow. Easy choice - mitigate the impact to the fewest possible. Shit breaks down because the man selected to get bumped initially agreed, then changed his mind, then said he refuses. Not only that, he drew a line in the sand and literally dared/told them to drag him off. Someone is definitely coming off that flight at this point so who is it going to be? Someone else? Or him? I say him. Should they have tried talking to him for 5-10 more minutes convincing him a physical altercation where he is dragged off is the last thing people want? Yes. Should he have acted like an adult and got off? Yes. But at some point, an adult that says "I refuse to leave" is getting dragged off if they won't leave. This guy was the literal one in a million that would get dragged. The "system" works fine. The free market works fine. The media did their usual partially story narrative BS and millions of people reacted to the way they messaged it. Well then I bought it hook, line, and sinker. I apologize for my stupid opinion prior. I'm surprised they let him back on, they should have tackled him then. Lol. How did you figure out that part of the story? Every news source I read didn't mention that so I did buy into a lie...
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Post by ocmmafan on Apr 15, 2017 11:47:21 GMT -5
There was a blog of other witness accounts (others on the plane) but now I can't find a link. And it's unclear - because the witness claimed the doctor and his wife initially accepted and left the plane but then changed their mind when they realized they had to fly the next day. Then (I think) he was randomly selected? Or maybe he was already selected and agreed, then changed his mind. I don't know because it appears he came off and on the plane a few times. So maybe when he initially volunteered he didn't have the full story and was still eligible to change his mind - again, too bad we can't get one of these useless media hacks to explained the actual fucking timeline and what truly happened.
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Post by slaytan on Apr 15, 2017 12:07:08 GMT -5
Fuck that guy who got dragged off of the plane. If the cops decide you gotta go, they are obliged to take you. You're going to go, period. He is no different from a guy who refused to leave Disney World at closing time
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Post by johncfc on Apr 15, 2017 12:33:07 GMT -5
Fuck that guy who got dragged off of the plane. If the cops decide you gotta go, they are obliged to take you. You're going to go, period. He is no different from a guy who refused to leave Disney World at closing time Sure I many have had a few too many beer, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna leave Disney World before I get a chance to ride on It's A Small World!
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Post by daywork on Apr 15, 2017 15:23:09 GMT -5
daywork - he DID not fly on that plane. Oh, I thought I heard he was allowed to fly. Damn, I really thought that.
Edit.... "The man was able to get back on the plane after initially being taken off. In footage posted on Twitter after the incident, the man is seen standing on the plane acting extremely distressed and disoriented. He repeatedly says “just kill me” as blood drips from his mouth. "
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 15:33:16 GMT -5
So the author . . . could? . . . still vote? Technically, according to the article, it'd still be able to vote because it's now a white woman, and they are allowed to vote. So yeah, it could vote....if it were an actual person. Huffington Post has just posted an explanation as to why they retracted the entire blog....and it turns out that "Shelley Garland" does not exist. milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/04/huffpo-anti-white-column/Huffington Post. Fake News. Shocker.
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Post by Baph on Apr 15, 2017 17:40:13 GMT -5
What in the literal fuck? It's not even a real person, and Huff Po runs it for a week -- non ironically.
Saw another riot today in Berkeley. Free speech and flag waiving, liberals show up and start punching people and screaming.
Remember when the left was actually about free speech and expression and tolerance? What in the FUCK happened? Feels like the poles have switched like some magnetic phenomenon with the Earth's core, and the evangelical right neo-con bloc from the 1980s is now the fascist social justice millitant left of the 2010s. Fuck me.
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Post by slaytan on Apr 16, 2017 5:29:31 GMT -5
What in the literal fuck? It's not even a real person, and Huff Po runs it for a week -- non ironically. Saw another riot today in Berkeley. Free speech and flag waiving, liberals show up and start punching people and screaming. Remember when the left was actually about free speech and expression and tolerance? What in the FUCK happened? Feels like the poles have switched like some magnetic phenomenon with the Earth's core, and the evangelical right neo-con bloc from the 1980s is now the fascist social justice millitant left of the 2010s. Fuck me. The left was never about free speech and expression and tolerance. The Berkeley protestors today are the same as in the 1960s when they were spitting on returning soldiers and bombing the pentagon. The Black Lives Matter degenerates today are no different than the civil rights "protestors" marching with Martin Luther Kang. There was no YouTube back then, but you can still find plenty of footage of cars burning and stores looted. As heavily edited as they are, they still show that the end result was the same, and in fact I'm pretty sure that the violence was worse under Saint Mawtin
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 7:46:51 GMT -5
Fuck that guy who got dragged off of the plane. If the cops decide you gotta go, they are obliged to take you. You're going to go, period. He is no different from a guy who refused to leave Disney World at closing time Sure I many have had a few too many beer, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna leave Disney World before I get a chance to ride on It's A Small World! You're a pussy. Space Mountain is the man's ride in that park. The only damn one.
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Post by Baph on Apr 16, 2017 14:32:16 GMT -5
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Post by PatSox on Apr 16, 2017 14:43:32 GMT -5
Sure I many have had a few too many beer, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna leave Disney World before I get a chance to ride on It's A Small World! You're a pussy. Space Mountain is the man's ride in that park. The only damn one.
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Post by Baph on Apr 16, 2017 19:34:46 GMT -5
Some dude who works at a children's psych hospital is live streaming a murder rampage on FB. What's worse? His name is Steve Stephens. Fucking tragedy.
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Post by boboplata on Apr 16, 2017 19:52:08 GMT -5
Cleveland?
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Post by Angelo on Apr 16, 2017 20:00:45 GMT -5
Some dude who works at a children's psych hospital is live streaming a murder rampage on FB. What's worse? His name is Steve Stephens. Fucking tragedy. holy shit
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Post by Baph on Apr 16, 2017 20:03:10 GMT -5
Some dude who works at a children's psych hospital is live streaming a murder rampage on FB. What's worse? His name is Steve Stephens. Fucking tragedy. holy shit I know. Can you imagine? His name is like Steve Steve.
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Post by boboplata on Apr 16, 2017 20:28:45 GMT -5
Ricky Bobby
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Post by slaytan on Apr 16, 2017 20:44:15 GMT -5
Some dude who works at a children's psych hospital is live streaming a murder rampage on FB. What's worse? His name is Steve Stephens. Fucking tragedy. Fucking what
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Post by Baph on Apr 16, 2017 21:09:23 GMT -5
Some dude who works at a children's psych hospital is live streaming a murder rampage on FB. What's worse? His name is Steve Stephens. Fucking tragedy. Fucking what Yeah, it's madness. Stephen fucking Stephens. Way to go mom.
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Post by Baph on Apr 16, 2017 21:10:10 GMT -5
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Post by slaytan on Apr 16, 2017 21:55:44 GMT -5
Yeah, it's madness. Stephen fucking Stephens. Way to go mom. I knew a Tom Thomas. He was addicted to pills.
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Post by PatSox on Apr 17, 2017 8:11:55 GMT -5
"Stephens' cell phone last released a "ping," or a signal, in Erie, Pennsylvania"
Uh-oh......Hope he doesn't go all Richard Kimble and try to shift the blame to a one armed man
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Post by PatSox on Apr 17, 2017 8:44:14 GMT -5
See this picture here?... THIS is why you don't have to take North Korea seriously. Everyone gets a cute chest high pistol, an AR with an underslung grenade launcher, cool looking camo face paint, sunglasses, night vision goggles.....because those two things go so well together, and a boss looking neck gaiter That's not intimidating. That's just President Pull-your-yang customizing his character in real life Call of Duty
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Post by Baph on Apr 17, 2017 11:42:22 GMT -5
We probably paid for most of that shit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 11:52:25 GMT -5
See this picture here?... THIS is why you don't have to take North Korea seriously. Everyone gets a cute chest high pistol, an AR with an underslung grenade launcher, cool looking camo face paint, sunglasses, night vision goggles.....because those two things go so well together, and a boss looking neck gaiter That's not intimidating. That's just President Pull-your-yang customizing his character in real life Call of Duty The other part is that they are all singing Gangnam Style.
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Post by agrappleaday on Apr 17, 2017 12:08:29 GMT -5
See this picture here?... THIS is why you don't have to take North Korea seriously. Everyone gets a cute chest high pistol, an AR with an underslung grenade launcher, cool looking camo face paint, sunglasses, night vision goggles.....because those two things go so well together, and a boss looking neck gaiter That's not intimidating. That's just President Pull-your-yang customizing his character in real life Call of Duty It also looks like a bunch of women.
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Post by matt on Apr 17, 2017 12:17:53 GMT -5
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Post by Baph on Apr 17, 2017 12:19:25 GMT -5
Starving, ignorant, brain washed women who will crumble at the first sign of adversity. The fragility of NoKo's propagandized slave army cannot be over-stated. Their ONLY card is hoping to lob one of their nukes, famous for comical misfires, across the goal line.
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Post by Baph on Apr 17, 2017 12:25:13 GMT -5
What in the literal fuck? It's not even a real person, and Huff Po runs it for a week -- non ironically. Saw another riot today in Berkeley. Free speech and flag waiving, liberals show up and start punching people and screaming. Remember when the left was actually about free speech and expression and tolerance? What in the FUCK happened? Feels like the poles have switched like some magnetic phenomenon with the Earth's core, and the evangelical right neo-con bloc from the 1980s is now the fascist social justice millitant left of the 2010s. Fuck me. The left was never about free speech and expression and tolerance. The Berkeley protestors today are the same as in the 1960s when they were spitting on returning soldiers and bombing the pentagon. The Black Lives Matter degenerates today are no different than the civil rights "protestors" marching with Martin Luther Kang. There was no YouTube back then, but you can still find plenty of footage of cars burning and stores looted. As heavily edited as they are, they still show that the end result was the same, and in fact I'm pretty sure that the violence was worse under Saint Mawtin Been thinking about this a lot and done some reading. I still somewhat agree with you, but want to caveat that in the 60s the left had a platform. A specificity and focus that made the revolt palatable and even convincing. Being singularly against Vietnam or specifically against segregation is a respectable position, antics aside. Today, no such focus exists. Today it's become a confused ADHD tantrum aimlessly shifting between Wall St and BLM and LBGTQ and sexism and Fascism and whatever the offense de jure happens to be. It's become increasingly child like and blurry, as though it were spurred on more by boredom or behavioral issues than by an actual, substantive cultural issues. In 1960 there was a problem and a goal. Today, you put a mic in their face and it's the ravings of a madman. It's become a goddamned temper tantrum.
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