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Post by Angelo on Nov 17, 2016 17:14:03 GMT -5
Eh, they don't seem to get more of an operating budget, just a new distribution system and resources to take care of getting access to other states. IMO though there isn't much need for what InBev offers anymore since the distribution issue for craft breweries are decreasing every month. The big thing is basically just the lawyers handling the paperwork. But yeah the buyout paycheck is nice, but wouldn't do it in that case unless got to keep some equity in the company. It's a tough call. I mean, Karbach, for example, was probably as big as they could possibly be in Houston and surrounding cities. Do you sell out while you're big or risk it and hope to stay a "trendy" craft beer? I have thought about this one and find myself on the fence. They did an expansion in 14 though, up to about 19k sqft. For a brewery like them, that is enough to sell in all 50 states with the type of craft brew they do. I really think given their size, they accepted the buyout for one of three reasons. 1. They just wanted the immediate paycheck. 2. They are internally forecasting a decrease of sales because of increase in competition, so they want that big money now to set aside. ***THIS IS THE ONE I THINK IT IS GIVEN THE HOUSTON MARKET*** 3. They don't feel comfortable dealing with the business side of setting up sales in new states they aren't in yet. All three are legit reasons and if it is true they are staying autonomous then we shouldn't notice really any change.
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Post by peAk on Nov 17, 2016 18:09:18 GMT -5
It's a tough call. I mean, Karbach, for example, was probably as big as they could possibly be in Houston and surrounding cities. Do you sell out while you're big or risk it and hope to stay a "trendy" craft beer? I have thought about this one and find myself on the fence. They did an expansion in 14 though, up to about 19k sqft. For a brewery like them, that is enough to sell in all 50 states with the type of craft brew they do. I really think given their size, they accepted the buyout for one of three reasons. 1. They just wanted the immediate paycheck. 2. They are internally forecasting a decrease of sales because of increase in competition, so they want that big money now to set aside. ***THIS IS THE ONE I THINK IT IS GIVEN THE HOUSTON MARKET*** 3. They don't feel comfortable dealing with the business side of setting up sales in new states they aren't in yet. All three are legit reasons and if it is true they are staying autonomous then we shouldn't notice really any change. Totally agree
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Post by Angelo on Nov 17, 2016 19:47:22 GMT -5
They did an expansion in 14 though, up to about 19k sqft. For a brewery like them, that is enough to sell in all 50 states with the type of craft brew they do. I really think given their size, they accepted the buyout for one of three reasons. 1. They just wanted the immediate paycheck. 2. They are internally forecasting a decrease of sales because of increase in competition, so they want that big money now to set aside. ***THIS IS THE ONE I THINK IT IS GIVEN THE HOUSTON MARKET*** 3. They don't feel comfortable dealing with the business side of setting up sales in new states they aren't in yet. All three are legit reasons and if it is true they are staying autonomous then we shouldn't notice really any change. Totally agree I think that the cases right now in front of the courts in Texas regarding alcohol sales are gonna go in favour of alcohol and get rid of a bunch of those blue law regulations. That happens, craft brewers gonna explode in Texas and their competition on a local scale gonna be through the roof. While they are good, I dunno if they are good enough to keep the crown even in the Houston area when that happens. Probably pull what a bunch have done, take the money, serve out the required time, use money to launch a new one where they want. Also, Warner, their main brewer, he's good, but he doesn't hold a candle to these up and comers. I think part of this is because he got stuck in that non-innovating west coast lull for awhile that happened and never quite snapped out of it. Houston is a great place for him (and the other 2) because they don't have a very competitive scene. You get a place like Ann Arbor, Grand Rapids, St Louis, Tampa, Portland & Chicago (sorta), you have to be able to make a beer that can seriously be considered on a national level because you are loaded with breweries. Personally, I would have used the upcoming growth as motivation to start developing heavy again. Ooo, maybe that what they'll use some of the money for, maybe even get a full blown development budget.
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Post by peAk on Nov 17, 2016 20:49:13 GMT -5
I have to imagine there are clauses in their contracts that they can't just go up and start another brewery.
Right?
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Post by Angelo on Nov 17, 2016 20:57:04 GMT -5
I have to imagine there are clauses in their contracts that they can't just go up and start another brewery. Right? In some cases yea, but seems in this market it usually you guarantee them so many years of you maintaining the product, then you can go off and do what you want. For all the competition in the craft brew market, in the upper end it isn't saturated so there isn't a big worry about them becoming a competitor.
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Post by jsporty1 on Nov 26, 2016 14:41:15 GMT -5
Got my allotment of Bourbon County stout yesterday. The place I get it hasn't gotten any varietals the past two years, so I hope our favorite bar has some of the coffee or barleywine on tap soon.
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Post by Premier on Nov 26, 2016 14:52:57 GMT -5
I fucked around and had a corona on Thanksgiving. 8 days out of surgery. That one beer fucked me up. Must be the meds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 17:39:06 GMT -5
Elijah Craig and 7-up....
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Post by Angelo on Feb 8, 2017 21:58:56 GMT -5
Local place had a blind tasting of 6 spiced stouts.
Perennial's Abraxas Schlafly's Mexican Chocolate Stout Stone's Xocoveza Prairie's Bomb Prairie's Barrel Aged Bomb Urban Family's Muerte Al Cereal
Also managed to win lottery between the three of us for two bombers of Abraxas, two of Sump and one of 17.
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Post by sooner2 on Feb 9, 2017 17:26:25 GMT -5
Got a bottle of glenfarclas 25 as a gift. Rare that I would spend that much on a bottle.
Tried some this week. It's a speyside. No heavy peat. I usually like islay scotches which are heavily peated.
I liked it. Some sort of minty/ menthol nose to it, and a full bodied long lasting taste.
Lots of sherry flavor. Like most scotch aged in sherry casks, you also get lots of raisin taste.
Unlike glenmorangie sherry cask offerings; though, you aren't overpowered by the overly sweet treacle type tastes.
Finish seems a bit chocolate like.
It's a good whisky, but not worth the price , imo. One can find some nice port or sherry oak cask bottled offerings at half the price. And one can find a nice assortment of much more satisfyingly complex and peaty offerings from islay for about half as well.
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