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Post by daywork on Jul 30, 2018 22:30:20 GMT -5
Saw an Ellen clip where Ashton Kutcher used Ripple to transfer 4 million dollars to Ellen's wildlife fund. We need the left to say screw the banks, Lets only use crypto LOL maybe then the stock will go back up.
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Post by Comrade Question on Jul 31, 2018 14:10:36 GMT -5
20% Kyle? Really? What are these traditional stocks that are beating the average by 13% for two consecutive years? Most of your private reference-only funds are returning on a low end about 20-30%. Brolin's private fund if you can get in averages about 75%. The one I worked for last was hanging around 120 when it closed, and the one I wanted a job at was doing an average of 157.4% over 10 years at that point with their lowest year 97.2% in that cycle. They tend to be aggressive though which is why they stay private, because just like that quote in boiler room "we don't pitch the bitch here" as it is just not worth the hassle and annoyance. Just to make sure I understand you, can you tell me what $1 million would be worth after 10 years at 157.4% returns?
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Post by Angelo on Jul 31, 2018 14:52:52 GMT -5
Most of your private reference-only funds are returning on a low end about 20-30%. Brolin's private fund if you can get in averages about 75%. The one I worked for last was hanging around 120 when it closed, and the one I wanted a job at was doing an average of 157.4% over 10 years at that point with their lowest year 97.2% in that cycle. They tend to be aggressive though which is why they stay private, because just like that quote in boiler room "we don't pitch the bitch here" as it is just not worth the hassle and annoyance. Just to make sure I understand you, can you tell me what $1 million would be worth after 10 years at 157.4% returns? Well in that specific fund it would be worth just a million, they wouldn't take it. That fund was a year in year out fund, 1.5m/client. At the end of the year they got paid out (minus a 20% fee from profit) what they made and were given the choice to leave in their 1.5m for another year. But in your example, for that specific fund, pre-tax 16.574 million. But for what you meant, about 12.7b.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 17:30:31 GMT -5
20% Kyle? Really? What are these traditional stocks that are beating the average by 13% for two consecutive years? The DOW alone is has a 22% return since 10/16. What average are you talking about?
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Post by HumanAgent on Jul 31, 2018 18:31:49 GMT -5
False.... Oh, and shut up. Not false at all, as Tony will tell you given his connections with his new found fortune and fatherly connections he probably in one or two funds for a mil each+ at 30-50% at least. There are 9 alone I know of in in Maine that do over 40%/year Nice dodging... How about name 4?
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Post by Angelo on Jul 31, 2018 19:05:03 GMT -5
Not false at all, as Tony will tell you given his connections with his new found fortune and fatherly connections he probably in one or two funds for a mil each+ at 30-50% at least. There are 9 alone I know of in in Maine that do over 40%/year Nice dodging... How about name 4? Fuck that, not risking the trouble that would bring. They are private and stay private for various reasons. Only reason I know of those is because I knew someone who was either invested in them or knew analyst involved in the development of new models.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 17:00:10 GMT -5
Nice dodging... How about name 4? Fuck that, not risking the trouble that would bring. They are private and stay private for various reasons. Only reason I know of those is because I knew someone who was either invested in them or knew analyst involved in the development of new models. Holy christ you are so fucking full of shit it makes me question your sanity. Are you mentally ill or a sociopath?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 17:01:54 GMT -5
Nice dodging... How about name 4? Fuck that, not risking the trouble that would bring. They are private and stay private for various reasons. Only reason I know of those is because I knew someone who was either invested in them or knew analyst involved in the development of new models. Holy christ you are so fucking full of shit it makes me question your sanity. Are you mentally ill or a sociopath? You're like the kid in middle school that always was a friend that is brothers with Hulk Hogan and you guys go kayaking on the weekends with Marky Mark. Instead of owning that you are full of shit, you just dig in deeper. Yeah man, you need counseling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 19:25:33 GMT -5
20% Kyle? Really? What are these traditional stocks that are beating the average by 13% for two consecutive years? The DOW alone is has a 22% return since 10/16. What average are you talking about? I misread what you said. I thought you were saying 20% for both years, not combined. I was referring to the standard 7% annual increase.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 19:31:59 GMT -5
Nice dodging... How about name 4? Fuck that, not risking the trouble that would bring. They are private and stay private for various reasons. Only reason I know of those is because I knew someone who was either invested in them or knew analyst involved in the development of new models. There is no such thing as private hedge funds. Private equity funds are a thing, but they usually are tied to funding private companies. Saying their name is not like saying Voldemort.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 21:46:24 GMT -5
The DOW alone is has a 22% return since 10/16. What average are you talking about? I misread what you said. I thought you were saying 20% for both years, not combined. I was referring to the standard 7% annual increase. I am like 30% and 10% for a combined 20%.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 21:49:52 GMT -5
Nice dodging... How about name 4? Fuck that, not risking the trouble that would bring. They are private and stay private for various reasons. Only reason I know of those is because I knew someone who was either invested in them or knew analyst involved in the development of new models. there would be zero risk in divulging a private fund unless they were using illegal insider information. You could have any fund you want and never be forced to divulge its holdings. I emailed my broker your post this morning and he wrote back “I am unaware of anything remotely close to that type of group or any returns that would even be in the same ballpark as that type of promise”
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 1, 2018 22:20:44 GMT -5
Fuck that, not risking the trouble that would bring. They are private and stay private for various reasons. Only reason I know of those is because I knew someone who was either invested in them or knew analyst involved in the development of new models. there would be zero risk in divulging a private fund unless they were using illegal insider information. You could have any fund you want and never be forced to divulge its holdings. I emailed my broker your post this morning and he wrote back “I am unaware of anything remotely close to that type of group or any returns that would even be in the same ballpark as that type of promise” Well, your broker must be dumb! There are 9 alone in the little state of Maine, probably 100 in California... I recommend getting a new broker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 22:59:45 GMT -5
No kidding, you would think a fund with 75% returns would be hard to keep a secret since the holdings portfolio would be worth a lot of money for someone to divulge.
My buddy runs a fund for private money investment through an Adventist college/church/ hospital. He controls a shit ton of money for them and they demand top returns on their capital . If he can get to 10% on an annual basis he is ecstatic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 9:44:53 GMT -5
I've seen pics on fb of Sporty looking straight exhausted during a long shift.
When you see that...then you hear this dipshit talking this nonsense...makes you want to slap the shit out of the guy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 9:47:48 GMT -5
And there are many articles out there on why it is a ponzi. Either way, I've pretty much washed my hands of it. The hot streak is over and its on to a different place to invest. Personally, I dont have much faith in it at this point. You don't think the currency and trade war between two massive economies with centrally controlled currencies is going to lead to a higher market cap in crypto? Btc only dropped 200 after the Winkelvoss' got shot down. I don't really care who invests in what, but turning your back on crypto at this point seems a bit shortsighted. That's all. Perhaps. But I dont have faith in it any longer and I'd rather play this one safe. There are other areas that id rather invest my money in other options I have on the table now. Remember, I dont have millions of dollars just sitting around to play with. I'm property poor. If I did, maybe it would be a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 10:25:09 GMT -5
I get it bud. I'm just saying you don't necessarily need to invest to keep an eye on things.
I really think that one of these cryptos is going to become "the coin" and it's probably not going to be Bitcoin that does it.
But that's probably also a decade away at this point.
Just don't want to see any friends miss a boat they might want to be on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 13:39:41 GMT -5
Don't think I don't listen and take a good portion of the advice you give on here. I do agree with you that "the coin" likely won't be bitcoin. And don't think I won't be paying attention to which one is speculated to be that one. The money I made on eth, ltc and btc was not too shabby, was a nice surprise actually and now I have some other areas I can put it to use. Local property related or of course I would share.
On a side note, speaking of advice, lol, Pfizer is up from 33 to about 40 bucks a share in the past year...
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Post by vegeta420z on Aug 4, 2018 21:05:54 GMT -5
Don't think I don't listen and take a good portion of the advice you give on here. I do agree with you that "the coin" likely won't be bitcoin. And don't think I won't be paying attention to which one is speculated to be that one. The money I made on eth, ltc and btc was not too shabby, was a nice surprise actually and now I have some other areas I can put it to use. Local property related or of course I would share. On a side note, speaking of advice, lol, Pfizer is up from 33 to about 40 bucks a share in the past year... Is t5hat because your limp dick ass neede more then the GSDP so you been buying the hell out of the blue pills fuck you pussy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 11:46:41 GMT -5
Sorry bruh, no lil brain pitties allowed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 14:01:25 GMT -5
Don't think I don't listen and take a good portion of the advice you give on here. I do agree with you that "the coin" likely won't be bitcoin. And don't think I won't be paying attention to which one is speculated to be that one. The money I made on eth, ltc and btc was not too shabby, was a nice surprise actually and now I have some other areas I can put it to use. Local property related or of course I would share. On a side note, speaking of advice, lol, Pfizer is up from 33 to about 40 bucks a share in the past year... Didn’t jackel buffet say Pfizer was a sell at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 14:06:07 GMT -5
Don't think I don't listen and take a good portion of the advice you give on here. I do agree with you that "the coin" likely won't be bitcoin. And don't think I won't be paying attention to which one is speculated to be that one. The money I made on eth, ltc and btc was not too shabby, was a nice surprise actually and now I have some other areas I can put it to use. Local property related or of course I would share. On a side note, speaking of advice, lol, Pfizer is up from 33 to about 40 bucks a share in the past year... Didn’t jackel buffet say Pfizer was a sell at the time? Damn near to the fucking date.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 14:16:11 GMT -5
Didn’t jackel buffet say Pfizer was a sell at the time? Damn near to the fucking date. So your saying don’t get investment advice from an unemployed, poor , know it all who has no money in the game? I personally am getting out of the market completely aside from some very low risk funds. Because of the wildfires last year here, we have changed our plans and have purchased a new lot that I will be building our house on. Need to stay liquid and don’t want to ride out a long term dip while building. The world has been quiet for most of trumps term, but thinking somebody is going to start some shit in his last 2 years of this term to shake up the election.
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Post by Premier on Aug 6, 2018 14:20:16 GMT -5
Kyle, you getting out or CA? Or just going to an area less likely to be affected by the fires? Is there such a thing? I thought the whole state was pretty much in danger.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 18:31:23 GMT -5
Kyle, you getting out or CA? Or just going to an area less likely to be affected by the fires? Is there such a thing? I thought the whole state was pretty much in danger. Actually bought a lot that was in the fire and the previous house burned down. There is no escaping the fire threat here. Prior to the October fires there were only a handful of lots available in the whole county. Now there are about 2,000 coming up and we have selected an area we like and bought a 2 acre lot with city hookups. We have another lot that we were going through to build on that we were not that excited about and now I need to sell that one
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Post by Baph on Aug 6, 2018 19:36:39 GMT -5
Bought Facebook back on that dip after selling all of my shares about 6-8 months ago. Normally I wouldn't pull a stunt like that, but goddamn, Facebook buys every app worth a shit and they own like 70 companies now. Their middle/long term profitability doesn't spook me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 11:06:10 GMT -5
Bought Facebook back on that dip after selling all of my shares about 6-8 months ago. Normally I wouldn't pull a stunt like that, but goddamn, Facebook buys every app worth a shit and they own like 70 companies now. Their middle/long term profitability doesn't spook me. I'm still holding. Yes, huge dip. But 180 is still more than 4 times what I bought it for during the IPO. They aren't optimistic about short term revenue growth, but as a long term hold they are in far better shape than any other social media platform.
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Post by ocmmafan on Nov 14, 2018 11:47:02 GMT -5
another up/down crypto swing but at least it's getting some attention. I still have stuff I'm holding but it's going to be wait and see with sell orders and I check back every few months. Not sure what to think longterm with any of these coins.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 12:46:02 GMT -5
I'm not liking crypto for long term. I still have some as well but I'm going to get out if we get any type of swing upwards. I really believe the hype and hope is out the window though...I'm thinking it's a slow death from this point on.
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Post by Comrade Question on Nov 20, 2018 16:20:24 GMT -5
I'm not liking crypto for long term. I still have some as well but I'm going to get out if we get any type of swing upwards. I really believe the hype and hope is out the window though...I'm thinking it's a slow death from this point on. Bitcoin (I know Bitcoin isn't the only crypto) is down to $4300, which is around where it was last September, so I have to ask: at this point is anybody expecting it to rally? In related news, did anybody see that the Dow and the S&P 500 are basically exactly where they were on January 1st?
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