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Post by neonjesusfreak on Feb 22, 2018 12:08:26 GMT -5
JL Collins talks at Google:
Great blog, awesome book, and in my opinion the go-to source when you really want to learn about simple investing and ditch that expensive advisor that's robbing you blind.
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Author and financial blogger JL Collins brings his refreshingly unique and approachable take on investing to Google.
The author of "The Simple Path to Wealth: Your Road Map to Financial Independence and a Rich, Free Life", JL offers easy-to-understand, effective tips and resources to understand investing with confidence.
In this interview with Googler Rachel Smith, JL Collins discusses money and investing, including: how to think about money and investing to build wealth, how to avoid debt, how to simplify the world of 401(k), 403(b), TSP, IRA and Roth accounts, TRFs (Target Retirement Funds), HSAs (Health Savings Accounts) and RMDs (Required Minimum Distributions).
He also talks about what the stock market really is and how it really works, How to invest in a raging bull, or bear, market, and specific investments to implement financial strategies.
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Post by ocmmafan on Mar 15, 2018 11:44:12 GMT -5
Just how bad will this double bottom be for crypto?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 12:05:48 GMT -5
Depends on your view. Short term it'll be bad. Long view holders are going to make out just fine if they time their purchases right.
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Post by ocmmafan on Mar 15, 2018 12:42:45 GMT -5
Depends on your view. Short term it'll be bad. Long view holders are going to make out just fine if they time their purchases right. Hope you're right. Seems we have some powerful communities trying to fuck crypto. Google and Facebook coming out publicly to try and counter any type of crypto searching and advertising seems counter-intuitive to expanding blockchain technology and is impacting the market. I suspect it's a lot MORE than them trying to safeguard against ICO scams.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 0:18:41 GMT -5
Man. Crypto sure has taken a shit. Starting to think that out of all the possibilities we thought of on here, the ponzi scheme was the closest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 1:16:32 GMT -5
Tony... curious as to why you are going to hold out on cashing in until you reach $120mm in value? Based on your numbers you are currently worth $30mm in bitcoin value... if you had $30mm in cash right now would you invest 100% of it in bitcoin starting today? To the people that have made money on this cryptocurrency already... congratulations!!!! It is fucking awesome to hear people making enough to get them in to a starter home, or be able to pay off some debt. I know literally nothing about the in's and out's of cryptocurrency, however my caution to anyone who is playing with more than incidental money right now is that you are betting on something that is most likely very corrupt at it's core and anytime you get on the side of something that will take power and control away from government entities, you are holding a time bomb before it implodes. Get your profit and get out so you spend as little time exposed to the risk as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 6:29:19 GMT -5
If you own FB stock, sell it. Same for Amazon and Google.
They're goin down hard over the next 6 months.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 7:47:17 GMT -5
Tony... curious as to why you are going to hold out on cashing in until you reach $120mm in value? Based on your numbers you are currently worth $30mm in bitcoin value... if you had $30mm in cash right now would you invest 100% of it in bitcoin starting today? To the people that have made money on this cryptocurrency already... congratulations!!!! It is fucking awesome to hear people making enough to get them in to a starter home, or be able to pay off some debt. I know literally nothing about the in's and out's of cryptocurrency, however my caution to anyone who is playing with more than incidental money right now is that you are betting on something that is most likely very corrupt at it's core and anytime you get on the side of something that will take power and control away from government entities, you are holding a time bomb before it implodes. Get your profit and get out so you spend as little time exposed to the risk as possible. Lol. Nailed it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 7:58:17 GMT -5
As far as crypto goes, I would think that folks who have participated in this market for more than a year would be used to the volatility at this point.
Bitcoin itself is still about 5000 higher than it was at this time last year.
And the people who supposedly know more than I do are saying that there should be some kind of big break out later on in the year. Are they right? I have no idea. What I do know is that ever since pulling the majority of my cryptoassets and redistributing them on the centralized side, my crypto assets have still out performed my centralized assets.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least bit to see Bitcoin hit 5K. And then it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit to see it take off. But a dropped to zero? Not happening.
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Post by daywork on Mar 29, 2018 9:15:58 GMT -5
I hope your right, I hope it bounces back. I'm still holding but only cause I have nothing else to lose. I'm still in the red with my investment, so I'm just going to let it ride and see if it goes back.
Mining as been shitty lately. What I use to mine in 2 weeks is now taking a month.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 9:24:04 GMT -5
I hope they're right too DW. If BTC hits 15K again I will have made back everything I took out. Doubling your money is always a nice thing. My get out number is 15k as I don't think we're ever going to see 20k again, and I think the people saying 30k and up are dreaming.
What coins are you set up to mine?
If I were in on that side I'd be trying to diversify the number of coins I could mine, because the newer coins are where most of BTC's gains are siphoned off too (based on the charts I've looked at anyway).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 9:38:53 GMT -5
As far as crypto goes, I would think that folks who have participated in this market for more than a year would be used to the volatility at this point. Bitcoin itself is still about 5000 higher than it was at this time last year. And the people who supposedly know more than I do are saying that there should be some kind of big break out later on in the year. Are they right? I have no idea. What I do know is that ever since pulling the majority of my cryptoassets and redistributing them on the centralized side, my crypto assets have still out performed my centralized assets. Wouldn't surprise me in the least bit to see Bitcoin hit 5K. And then it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit to see it take off. But a dropped to zero? Not happening. I hope your right for the sake of the people on this site that lost money speculating on it. My problem with that theory is in December of 2017 you were at the tail end of a major market pop, with the dow up almost 50% in a calendar year. People were thinking the Trump market would never go down, and there was lots of extra money floating around. That is the time when people speculate on things and drive the price up. In order for Bitcoin to see a major jump, there are 2 things that would need to happen... 1) major news like the US or Britain coming out and saying it is a tax favorable currency that they are going to recognize 2) another major economic pop that frees up money and gets people to want to speculate that $7k is the bottom. I would be very surprised if either of those happened. What bitcoin did was no different than the housing bubble, just on a much smaller scale. Prices were driven up by sheep following the wolves to the forest, and in the end the wolves were the only ones on the profit side. Hopefully I am wrong and people here can get out at break even, but I think you would be wiser to book the loss for taxation reasons (I assume you can with bitcoin) and move on to something else that has taken a beating in the last month but is a healthy company.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 10:10:46 GMT -5
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make a few predictions.
-crypto winds up not being what it was cracked up to be and winds up being a ponzi scheme. To think the banks would just step to the side and allow a currency to slide them out...its naive imo.
-90% of alt coins are going to die off in the next 9 months
-BTC will make a few rebounds, tail end of the whip style. I think it settles for good around 5-6k
-ETH will also make a few more jumps and will settle down around 350
-LTC goes back under 100 bucks
Hope you guys made your money and were riding on profits like I mostly was. And of course, I hope I'm wrong. I have an idea I'm pretty close though.
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Post by ocmmafan on Mar 29, 2018 10:48:54 GMT -5
I think you could be right, Vale. 90% are going to die - maybe even 95% of them. Still pumping out new ICOs, too.
Volume dictates price and right now, we don't have any volume. And there are all kinds of programs triggering buy and sell day trading that influence fake volume. We need to see traction and the only way we see positive sentiment is with a lot of good news. Right now, the negative press push crushes the positive by 4-1 and we have very, very few technicals explaining WHY any of this is worth investing. We do know blockchain technology is the future but will be hard pressed to find a way to explain why a ripple coin or lite coin is an investment.
I think we see Bitcoin test $5000 and then rebound back towards 10K but we will continue to see lower lows and lower highs as the bounces happen. Same with ETH, LTC, bitcoin cash and all the small players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 11:44:42 GMT -5
You guys keep on falling for the idea that this trough doesn't have another side. Personally, I made a shit ton of money from crypto and will continue watching and buying in when I see something that looks innovative. Because whether the short term gains are there or not, blockchain is the future of all currency and the only place you find cutting edge BC tech is........in the crypto market.
Coincidence that the companies doing that innovation are also issuing IPO's? No.
The futures market is still the predictor here, and the volume over there is leaning on the sell side. So this downturn is still going to continue. This is not a ponzi scheme, never was, doesn't come close to fitting the definition of one. This is an attack on centralized currency and banking, and it is not over.
I no longer give a shit what things cost because of crypto, and at the end of the day that lines up with my newer mentality of -fuck everyone else because I got mine.
I hope you guys don't miss the boat a second time. But I'm betting you will.
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Post by daywork on Mar 29, 2018 19:10:39 GMT -5
I hope they're right too DW. If BTC hits 15K again I will have made back everything I took out. Doubling your money is always a nice thing. My get out number is 15k as I don't think we're ever going to see 20k again, and I think the people saying 30k and up are dreaming. What coins are you set up to mine? If I were in on that side I'd be trying to diversify the number of coins I could mine, because the newer coins are where most of BTC's gains are siphoned off too (based on the charts I've looked at anyway). I mine Litecoin with a Antminer. I can't change what I mine with this I mine Ethereum with graphic cards.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 23:28:52 GMT -5
I hope you guys don't miss the boat a second time. But I'm betting you will. For someone who was telling people in late December that Bitcoin was going to $60k and anyone not buying in at $15-$18k was an idiot... you may want to keep from advising people on where to put their money considering it is down 70% from that point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 6:10:08 GMT -5
It is impossible at this point to make money like people did on bitcoin this past year. Each bitcoin would have to be worth 100s of thousands of dollars to recreate that crazy climb. With other cryptos coming out all the time, I highly doubt another one will climb like bitcoin did. If it does, good luck picking it out. It was a craze, a bubble like many were saying. It could climb again but let's not pretend it wasn't artificially inflated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 8:56:56 GMT -5
I hope you guys don't miss the boat a second time. But I'm betting you will. For someone who was telling people in late December that Bitcoin was going to $60k and anyone not buying in at $15-$18k was an idiot... you may want to keep from advising people on where to put their money considering it is down 70% from that point. You need to understand something that you obviously do not understand. In December I did not say that it was going to hit 60 k. I said that an analyst who had been correct about most of the other things said it was going to hit 60 k. Now if you're one of those people who can't separate someone sharing information that they read versus someone making their own predictions, then yeah you don't have any business doing much investing of any kind. Bitcoin's going to take off again sometime this year. There's a prediction for you. It's not going to hit 20K. But if it drops to five, there will at least be a dead cat bounce that could make people here millions of dollars if they played their cards right. I thought you wanted people to be successful Kyle? You do realize that most people aren't your retarded brother-in-law who bought shit on credit? I mean really, you expect me to hold everyone's hands to the point that I need to explain to them how to put the money in and where the money should come from? Are you one of those guys who invites your financial advisor over for family dinners? LoL Keep in mind, I don't care if anyone catches the boat or misses the boat. I already caught it. But don't try to tell me what I can and can't talk about on here, because you are the boss of exactly zero aspects of my life.
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Post by Comrade Question on Mar 30, 2018 9:20:07 GMT -5
For someone who was telling people in late December that Bitcoin was going to $60k and anyone not buying in at $15-$18k was an idiot... you may want to keep from advising people on where to put their money considering it is down 70% from that point. You need to understand something that you obviously do not understand. In December I did not say that it was going to hit 60 k. I said that an analyst who had been correct about most of the other things said it was going to hit 60 k. Now if you're one of those people who can't separate someone sharing information that they read versus someone making their own predictions, then yeah you don't have any business doing much investing of any kind. Bitcoin's going to take off again sometime this year. There's a prediction for you. It's not going to hit 20K. But if it drops to five, there will at least be a dead cat bounce that could make people here millions of dollars if they played their cards right. I thought you wanted people to be successful Kyle? You do realize that most people aren't your retarded brother-in-law who bought shit on credit? I mean really, you expect me to hold everyone's hands to the point that I need to explain to them how to put the money in and where the money should come from? Are you one of those guys who invites your financial advisor over for family dinners? LoL Keep in mind, I don't care if anyone catches the boat or misses the boat. I already caught it. But don't try to tell me what I can and can't talk about on here, because you are the boss of exactly zero aspects of my life. Is there any real difference between you and a Powerball winner trying to sell his sure-fire system for winning the lottery?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 9:37:20 GMT -5
For someone who was telling people in late December that Bitcoin was going to $60k and anyone not buying in at $15-$18k was an idiot... you may want to keep from advising people on where to put their money considering it is down 70% from that point. You need to understand something that you obviously do not understand. In December I did not say that it was going to hit 60 k. I said that an analyst who had been correct about most of the other things said it was going to hit 60 k. Now if you're one of those people who can't separate someone sharing information that they read versus someone making their own predictions, then yeah you don't have any business doing much investing of any kind. Bitcoin's going to take off again sometime this year. There's a prediction for you. It's not going to hit 20K. But if it drops to five, there will at least be a dead cat bounce that could make people here millions of dollars if they played their cards right. I thought you wanted people to be successful Kyle? You do realize that most people aren't your retarded brother-in-law who bought shit on credit? I mean really, you expect me to hold everyone's hands to the point that I need to explain to them how to put the money in and where the money should come from? Are you one of those guys who invites your financial advisor over for family dinners? LoL Keep in mind, I don't care if anyone catches the boat or misses the boat. I already caught it. But don't try to tell me what I can and can't talk about on here, because you are the boss of exactly zero aspects of my life. You don't need to get defensive about what you can or can't do... I would just say your track record is questionable at best starting in last December. Now "if" you really did cash out and realize a $30mm profit on bitcoin, you obviously have enough success to toot your own horn. I personally don't care how much money anyone buy myself has, but if I was a betting man, I would say your profits from bitcoin were less than 6 figures. I know a lot of very rich people, and there is one thing that really rich people don't do... talk about how much money they have. Here are a couple of instances where you were making your own predictions instead of just sharing information as you claimed above.... "I really started to get a lot of faith in where Bitcoin was going when I learned that the 23 year-old Gopher for the grow company decided to buy $1,500 worth after hearing me and the guys talking about this stuff. Apparently he got drunk at a bar, and then when he went to the ATM machine he saw a Bitcoin miner next to the ATM machine. So he took all the money out of his account and bought Bitcoin. His $1,500 has more than tripled since then. I told him if he sells his Bitcoins, he's fired. He laughed. I told him I wasn't kidding because selling it at this point would be demonstrating a serious lack of judgement." 12/4 "Dude btc's going to hit 40K by the end of 2018. All these people talking about Bubbles and all this other dumb shit seem to keep on trying to make analogies with Bitcoin and products rather than treating it like a form of currency." 12/3 "$15,600 per coin. The "experts" are quickly becoming "the people one should ignore". Same morons who said Hillary was our next President are also saying this is going to implode, so, it won't implode, and they are scared as fuck that this keeps going and helps unravel their current bullshit system." "How could a global "bubble" even happen is the question I'm waiting for an answer to. Conveniently, none of them want to touch that issue because it makes something clear about BTC. It's not tulip bulbs or homes. Those rules do not apply." 12/7 "Those guys are going to kick themselves when it hits 32. Every single person that I advised to get in on this is holding on. I don't expect any of us to sell until it hits at least 60." 12/7 "Looking like 15K is the new settling point. If you're waiting for it to go down more, stop waiting and get some." 12/8 "Which means if you're not in yet, you better fucking get in. Otherwise you missed the boat, two or three times." 12/21 Go ahead and tell me how I missed what you were actually doing or saying, and how you did time the market perfectly as you claim even though you were all in just a few days before the start of the crash. I actually hope all of what you claim is true, because you will be able to take that money and ensure a great life for you family. My instincts tell me that you have fabricated much of your success here and when you pair that with giving investing advice it can be very misleading to people who don't know what they are doing and are jealous of someone who hit the jackpot.
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Post by ocmmafan on Mar 30, 2018 9:56:58 GMT -5
You guys keep on falling for the idea that this trough doesn't have another side. Personally, I made a shit ton of money from crypto and will continue watching and buying in when I see something that looks innovative. Because whether the short term gains are there or not, blockchain is the future of all currency and the only place you find cutting edge BC tech is........in the crypto market. Coincidence that the companies doing that innovation are also issuing IPO's? No. The futures market is still the predictor here, and the volume over there is leaning on the sell side. So this downturn is still going to continue. This is not a ponzi scheme, never was, doesn't come close to fitting the definition of one. This is an attack on centralized currency and banking, and it is not over. I no longer give a shit what things cost because of crypto, and at the end of the day that lines up with my newer mentality of -fuck everyone else because I got mine. I hope you guys don't miss the boat a second time. But I'm betting you will. I am 100% with you that the tech is there. The investment angle is harder to explain and even in the reddit boards where you have crypto enthusiasts and those that chart it forming discussions, they can't pinpoint why the price of the coin relates back to the tech - make sense? We can buy a XRP coin and yet NOT own a piece of Ripple the company, so they can succeed while the price of the coin plummets and some investors lose money. The tech will succeed while many coins die. Cryptocurrency is in no way dead or a bubble. MOST coins within the crypto universe blew up based on a speculative bubble, but we are still in the early fringes of adoption and overall market growth, IMO. I believe Bitcoin will survive and be a source of storing monetary value. When will it be widely adopted? Who knows but when it is, maybe it takes another 2-3 years, the value will again skyrocket given scarcity. Litecoin, Etherium, XRP, XLM and others will survive and their blockchain tech adopted universally, IMO. Then we will see more and more acceptance and understanding by consumers which will influence coin price. 2020? 2019? Who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 10:30:42 GMT -5
That was an awful lot of typing Kyle. And quite frankly, I do not buy for half a second that you are concerned about anyone else investing in crypto or listening to me. I think that your issue is a whole different thing. And that's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with you. So maybe clean your own house and stop worrying about mine?
You have to have figured out a long time ago that I really don't give a fuck what you do or don't believe, especially when it comes to me.
And it should tell you something, that the person who is so insecure that they have to hide constantly- liked your post. The reality that most people don't want to accept is that people who think they are successful tend to get jealous of people who appear to be more successful. This is exactly why you probably do the majority of your interacting with other people on the internet.
Believe what you would like, but don't try to tell me what I can and can't say. Especially when you try to do so out of your feigned caring for other people's money thing. All the folks who listened to me in the real world have seen six or seven figure Returns on their crypto Investments.
I believe OC got turned on to the crypto Market specifically because of my talking about it, and I believe he saw a pretty sweet return that he wouldn't have otherwise gotten. You on the other hand just sat there and did nothing. So you missed the boat. That's not my problem, so don't try to make it my problem.
I think it might be time for me to take a little break from this place.
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Post by Comrade Question on Mar 30, 2018 10:41:38 GMT -5
I think it might be time for me to take a little break from this place. Good idea, why don't you come back once BTC hits 60k and Trump's great wall is built?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 10:59:00 GMT -5
You know...I'm getting rather tired of Comrade over here. We all know each other here. Why do we need a trolling stranger when we share financial and personal shit on here? This isn't the old forum where we had a bunch of randoms, there is really no reason for anyone outside of our circles to be on here, let alone on here yapping their mouth at all of us. This forum is more for the peeps who have been around throughout the years. Plus, this bitch is annoying as fuck...and we already have a jackal. We don't need V2.0.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 12:58:15 GMT -5
That was an awful lot of typing Kyle. And quite frankly, I do not buy for half a second that you are concerned about anyone else investing in crypto or listening to me. I think that your issue is a whole different thing. And that's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with you. So maybe clean your own house and stop worrying about mine? You have to have figured out a long time ago that I really don't give a fuck what you do or don't believe, especially when it comes to me. And it should tell you something, that the person who is so insecure that they have to hide constantly- liked your post. The reality that most people don't want to accept is that people who think they are successful tend to get jealous of people who appear to be more successful. This is exactly why you probably do the majority of your interacting with other people on the internet. Believe what you would like, but don't try to tell me what I can and can't say. Especially when you try to do so out of your feigned caring for other people's money thing. All the folks who listened to me in the real world have seen six or seven figure Returns on their crypto Investments. I believe OC got turned on to the crypto Market specifically because of my talking about it, and I believe he saw a pretty sweet return that he wouldn't have otherwise gotten. You on the other hand just sat there and did nothing. So you missed the boat. That's not my problem, so don't try to make it my problem. I think it might be time for me to take a little break from this place. You are more than welcome to throw a fit and get defensive, but in the real world people that actually have it don’t feel they need to constantly prove anything. I am as far from insecure as it gets. Right now I am wearing 2 year old boots, jeans with a few holes and I am driving a 2011 xl pickup. I spend $0.00 on looking rich and there are less than 3 people that know how much money I made last year. I am lucky enough to make a lot of money, but most of my friends make under $200k a year and the worst thing for any friendship is a gap in income, so I do my best to hide what I make. I have absolutely no jealousy regarding anyone’s bitcoin profits. Speculative investments that have $0 in underlying value are something I will never get in to, so I will never care what they do around me. My grandfather was a stock broker and I have had stable investments pounded in to my head for 25 years. You saying you want to leave further backs up my theory on your actual success in bitcoin. It would be impossible to mask your lifestyle change having come in to $30mm plus recently. Especially from someone who in the past has flaunted material items and family wealth, we all would anticipate you showering the forum with luxury items and toys. I would love you to post a brokerage statement and prove me wrong... but I suspect that won’t happen. I do care if someone is touting fake success as a means for convincing people to spend their money. If I found out my broker was really living in a shitty apartment, I would pull my money for obvious reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 14:34:44 GMT -5
Real talk. Tony, you are a millionaire now. Who cares. However, don't act for a second like it was some grand foresight on your part. You admitted to having Bitcoin you forgot about. Then you touted Bitcoin like it will never go south. You talked about how your friends and family are crazy for selling because the sky is the limit. Then the bottom fell out, you made out like a bandit, and pretend like you did something other than hit the lottery because that is the equivalent of what you did. Good for you.
I'm actually happy somebody made millions. Maybe even a little jealous at the fuck you money you fell into because I didn't even know what a bitcoin was until 2017 but that doesn't make you some economic wizard or investor that you are making yourself out to be. You had the opportunity to blow some cash on a speculative market (which it was when you bought it umpteenth years ago) and it made you rich. Awesome. Still doesn't mean you weren't dead wrong in your analysis of crypto and if anyone did listen to you as the expert you claimed to be, they would have lost their ass.
If I win the lottery tomorrow, it doesn't make me a financial guru.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 12:53:57 GMT -5
That was an awful lot of typing Kyle. And quite frankly, I do not buy for half a second that you are concerned about anyone else investing in crypto or listening to me. I think that your issue is a whole different thing. And that's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with you. So maybe clean your own house and stop worrying about mine? You have to have figured out a long time ago that I really don't give a fuck what you do or don't believe, especially when it comes to me. And it should tell you something, that the person who is so insecure that they have to hide constantly- liked your post. The reality that most people don't want to accept is that people who think they are successful tend to get jealous of people who appear to be more successful. This is exactly why you probably do the majority of your interacting with other people on the internet. Believe what you would like, but don't try to tell me what I can and can't say. Especially when you try to do so out of your feigned caring for other people's money thing. All the folks who listened to me in the real world have seen six or seven figure Returns on their crypto Investments. I believe OC got turned on to the crypto Market specifically because of my talking about it, and I believe he saw a pretty sweet return that he wouldn't have otherwise gotten. You on the other hand just sat there and did nothing. So you missed the boat. That's not my problem, so don't try to make it my problem. I think it might be time for me to take a little break from this place. It would be impossible to mask your lifestyle change having come in to $30mm plus recently. Especially from someone who in the past has flaunted material items and family wealth, we all would anticipate you showering the forum with luxury items and toys. I would love you to post a brokerage statement and prove me wrong... but I suspect that won’t happen.I do care if someone is touting fake success as a means for convincing people to spend their money. If I found out my broker was really living in a shitty apartment, I would pull my money for obvious reasons. You are a real piece of work dude. First off, hiding 30MM has been pretty easy so far, for a whole slew of reasons. The first being that I haven't bought any of the stuff you would probably go buy if you suddenly found legit success. Yeah, I bought a helicopter. But I don't keep it parked at my house. It's in a hangar, that I also bought, which is at the airport five minutes from my house. I bought a bunch of land up north (actually haven't closed yet, but that's just a formality) and a nice plot of land to build the new house on, and the construction process with that has started. But I'm still driving the same car, still in the same house, still wearing the same clothes, still doing the same things. I find it absolutely, 100% hilarious that you- YOU of all people are asking for a brokerage report. The guy who has owns a construction company but doesn't feel comfortable enough to ever tell anyone here what the name of that company is, is asking me to share a brokerage report. Do you not even see how fuckin weird that makes you look Kyle? You know what's even weirder? That you think you've got people all figured out, and that you can deduce things about them via an internet message board. It's pretty simple to make something look questionable when you don't have all the facts, and you don't. Just like I don't have all the facts regarding your nameless construction company. But I can say that I think it's kinda strange that.... You are on here for the amount of time that you are, have the time to dig through old posts trying to make some kind of point, and sometimes are still logged in here at 4am your time. Why is this strange? Well, because you own a successful construction company....and are located in a part of the country that is experiencing a record setting rebuild due to a natural disaster....there is such demand for construction crews that Cali is arresting unlicensed contractors who are trying to pick up the slack. Construction companies out there are going to be posting record profits this year. And here you are, digging through a stranger's posts trying to prove that they are not more successful than the image you're trying to portray on here is. Seems like an awfully strange way to be spending your time at this particular point, when your company could be expanding at an aggressive rate, when you're in your peak earning years. And despite you not feeling comfortable enough to ever drop the name of your company, you seriously expect me to post a brokerage report to a public message board? Seriously? I find it all really weird, specifically because of the fact that I'm building this new house. The guy who owns the company, one that I believe must be smaller than yours, is constantly going. You can't talk to him for more than ten or fifteen minutes without his phone ringing or texts coming in. He's always on one site or going to another site, or he's in planning board meetings getting future projects approved, or he's meeting with new potential clients. He told me he's home by 7:30 most nights and in bed by 9:30 so he can be up and out the door at 5 the next morning. Now, maybe he also has some obscure message board that he wastes his time on, but I doubt it. The thing is, Maine is also experiencing a boom in housing. Not enough homes to meet the demand = new construction all over the place. But not nearly on the scale as what's happening in your neck of the woods. Despite that, this guy seems to be a fuckton busier than you. And considering how weird that was to me, I started thinking over the past few days about other weird shit that's come my way from your direction. Like back when people were calling me "Handsome Tony", only one person bitched about it- you. "In my part of the country there are women who wouldn't look at you twice." Ummm...ok. I thought that was a weird thing for a man to say to another man. Like you care if someone is more attractive than you? That's kinda weird behavior from a self described "secure person". Also weirder still that I've been to your part of California more than once, and really didn't see anything special. But then a few years later you got comfortable enough to post a picture, and I immediately understood why you seemed all jealous of how I look. Then this crypto shit went atomic. And you talked about how "the really wealthy people I know never talk about how much money they have". Well, Sherlock, I said that I had 2000 coins back when BTC was at about 2000 itself. Did I know it would hit 20k? Of course not. Do I assume people can do some simple arithmetic? Of course I do. Do I discuss my bottom line with my friends in the real world? Of course I don't. But the whole time this thing was going up, anyone with a bit of reading comp could see that your little feathers were getting ruffled. Why? No idea. Probably because of issues discussed in the previous paragraph. Then I cashed out. And no, I did not "time the market perfectly" because if I had done that- I'd have pulled in an extra 10 million. I said I was going to be starting the building process of my house, and of course, the only person asking for pictures and telling me they were going to be "bugging me about the progress" was....you. I don't know, but you seem a bit fixated on me. And I think it's pretty fuckin weird. I waltzed back in here to address you specifically Kyle, because I've realized something else over the past few days. Ever since I started on MMA boards back when I was still a teenager, I've met a solid crew of people that I have zero problem providing a window into my life. From Tito1 to Weekly to here, I'll drop some names. ValeTudo Slaytan Baph Makalu sneakyweasel Str8Shooter Elissa CB Premier LA Dr.Gary Warboner NHBMMA James (Not OD) WhoWon? TKT Every single one of those people are connected to me via FB, real names and all. And as such, guess what every single one of them probably saw? Pictures of my helicopter. So if I can speak to all of those people whenever I want, most of whom aren't even here anymore....why the fuck do I need this place? I've also spent the past few days thinking about all sorts of other things not connected to here. A funny thing happens when you reach a goal you set for yourself. I said I'd be financially unchained by age 40, and I am. But the realization of that goal opened my eyes to a bigger and harsher truth. We are only on this planet for so long, only have so many minutes and hours before the whole thing is over. Wasting time, as we do in here, is not a good way to spend a resource as limited as our time. You might wake up one day and realize your kids are grown up and you wasted that time talking shit to/with strangers on the internet. Probably won't feel very good when you realize that either. Sometime this year I'll be getting another few million dollars. And how that happens is none of your damned business Kyle. Nothing in or a part of my life is ANY of your fucking business and you will be learning exactly zero things about me from this point forward, you fuckin weirdo. When I was still a kid, arguing with people and making them feel stupid or shitty over the internet was a pastime I enjoyed. But it does nothing for me now. I do not want to be known as the person who brought harm to people, even if it was to amuse myself and other mean spirited people who were reading along. That bullshit does not appeal to me anymore, in fact, it embarrasses me that I ever engaged in that behavior in the first place. I'd rather not waste my time any further with such activities. I am happy and have a great deal of peace of mind now that things have worked out as they have. I feel zero need to prove anything one way or another to anyone in the world, beyond proving to my kids and family how important they are to me. Not one single person on this board lost money on cryptos because of me, and if anyone wants to blame their mistake on something I said: whatever. If I had known BTC was going to take off like it did, I probably wouldn't have said anything about it at all because it would have just been another Google, or FB or Tesla. Something I saw before the masses caught the value in them and bought either on or close to the IPO. (Kinda like I did with Spotify earlier this week.) I'm not saying I'm leaving this place for good (I never did say that), but I'm going to be like Baph or Brock Lesnar. Part time at best. I'm sure you'll have something to say in response Kyle, but I doubt anyone cares what it is. I'm sure no one cares about my little diatribe here either. Just something about your weird ass commentary that stuck in my craw a bit and so I wanted to get this off my chest. And yes Floyd, I'm not a financial guru and I never said I was. But what I definitely am, and have been since I was a kid, was someone who saw stuff first. I was into MMA since UFC 1 (which I would have won...easily) which is technically before MMA was called MMA, had one of the first 10,000 profiles on Myspace, bought GOOGL (now alphabet class a), FB, TSLA and SPOT on their IPO's and will be in on the ground floor as a wholesale weed grower when my state opens the gates. That is definitely not the same as a financial guru. But every one of those things are similar to BTC in that they are disruptive tech, and disruptive tech is my 4tay. If something else comes along, I'll share it in this thread. Anyway....that was a lot of talking. I think that's all I have to say about that. Floyd, PatSox, DW, bobo, and yes even you Angelo- You all know my real name. Hit me up on FB if you'd like and I'll accept the request. I won't expect one from you Kyle. A place like that would blow your cover pretty hard.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Apr 5, 2018 14:02:03 GMT -5
Boy, the old Trump train starts losing a little momentum and you guys are turning on each other?
It also seems weird for Tony to be talking about how successful people aren't on message boards all day while simultaneously posting on a message board all day telling everyone how successful he is.
I take everyone's success here with a grain of salt. Not because I personally doubt any one of you, but because the chances of 25 guys keeping an mma message board alive for 20 years and all of them being winners at life are slim.
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