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Post by jasonkl on Nov 14, 2016 18:03:23 GMT -5
All that I read about Steve bannon is that he is a racist and horrible anti Semite, as a Jew this worried me as he will have a huge say in helping trump come up with policies and run the country. I also have some intellectual curiosity, so I wanted to find out why he is such a Jew hater. I found 2 arguments. That were repeated by most, the first was that on beribart, an article referred to a Jewish congressmen as a rebellious Jew, and the second was that in divorce statements from his wife he said he didn't want his kids to go to a school with Jews. On the surface, both are somewhat troubling, but don't necessarily make him a horrible anti Semite. That was pretty much all that I could find. Looking a little deeper, I found that he didn't write the article or even fit the one where a Jewish congressman was called a rebellious Jew, I found the writer of the article, and guess what- he is an Orthodox Jew who was hired to write for this so called anti Semitic website. So after further review, I found no evidence of bannon hating Jews from article.
As for his fight with his wife during the divorce proceedings, he denied that he said he didn't want his kids going to school with Jews and in fact they ended up going to that school anyway. In more context, his main argument was more about not wanting them to go to a snotty private school. I'm not sure if he said the stuff about Jews or not, so my conclusion is maybe he said something like that to his wife in a private fight with her over the schooling of his kids.
Now that's the. Eat I could find about him being anti Semitic. Neither passes the smell test.
Reading a little more, breinart was created by a Jew who bannon was extremely close with. I decided to check out the website and quickly discovered that they have a section dedicated to Jews called breinart Jerusalem, which bannon approved.
I found a much more compelling argument that he is actually a friend to Jews than he hates them.
Does anyone else have other information on this?
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Post by Angelo on Nov 14, 2016 18:08:08 GMT -5
I don't think the anti-Semite thing is true, it is all based around some shit with his ex-wife who was pissed at him (rightfully so though, he beat her).
He is a very bad choice to have such a prominent position though. He really should be a quiet behind the scenes guy advising on specific areas and leave it at that. Especially given that most of his leaked picked for administrative positions are at extreme odds with him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 13:05:58 GMT -5
Bannon is a kook imo. Bad choice...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 13:11:01 GMT -5
Bannon is the ONLY reason Trump's campaign was able to right itself and get back on track. All this stuff about him having a prominent position within the administration is stupid, because the man is: A military vet with an Ivy league degree and is a self made millionaire who might have said a couple things that were "problematic". A couple statements do not define your character. His resume is impressive. His critics are mostly whining dipshits who hope you don't know who Bannon really is.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 13:49:47 GMT -5
I dunno Sgm, I read Breitbart and I can't say I always agree but it is what it is. I just think the guy is kind of a know it all kook, but that's just what I get from observing the guy.
I get a simolar vibe from him as I did Tim Kaine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 13:55:18 GMT -5
Tim Kaine is not capable of doing what Bannon does. Bannon is a smart guy. Kaine is an idiotic puppet. Bannon made Trump his puppet in that he kept him on message, curtailed the off the cuff remarks, and actually succeeded in taking Trump's twitter account away from him until election night.
I read Breitbart every morning, particularly Milo. I love that homo's razor sharp wit. So when I hear people calling it a "white supremacist" site, I know they drank a bit too much blue Kool-Aid. It's not homophobic or white supremacist in nature. If anything they get the flack they get for being too real. I have no problems with a news agency trying to be too real. Especially when it gets them vilified by the rest of the media.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 14:00:43 GMT -5
Love Milo. It's refreshing as fuck. Possibly my favorite gay person that I've never met.
I just get that looney toon vibe from the guy. Not quite as goofy as Kaine, but I still get it.
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Post by Angelo on Nov 15, 2016 14:49:24 GMT -5
The big issue is so far Trump isn't doing anything to buck the establishment. From an official point of view right now he is cradling the establishments balls.
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Post by Baph on Nov 16, 2016 0:53:24 GMT -5
I don't know enough about this guy to make a decision yet. I've seen a bunch of my liberal buddies calling him Satan, but like the OP, I've yet to track down any solid evidence, other than a slight Alex Jones vibe, but . . . meh.
My much bigger concern is that "drain the swamp" isn't off to a great start with some old throwback 1990s era neo-con goofballs being batted around the rumor mill for cabinet positions, like John Bolton, Rudy Guliani, etc. That's not how you drain a swamp, Don. You're just swirling the muddy water around.
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Post by Angelo on Nov 16, 2016 0:57:49 GMT -5
I don't know enough about this guy to make a decision yet. I've seen a bunch of my liberal buddies calling him Satan, but like the OP, I've yet to track down any solid evidence, other than a slight Alex Jones vibe, but . . . meh. My much bigger concern is that "drain the swamp" isn't off to a great start with some old throwback 1990s era neo-con goofballs being batted around the rumor mill for cabinet positions, like John Bolton, Rudy Guliani, etc. That's not how you drain a swamp, Don. You're just swirling the muddy water around. Yeah he isn't draining the swamp, he's just polluting it more. Bolton however, I like the guy, and think he's great for State. He has no problem speaking to power, as has been shown, regardless of political affiliation. He likes to get shit done, simple as that, and doesn't fuck around. The downside to Bolton is example that though, he's not one for pomp and circumstance which most upper level politicians in the world that he'd have to deal with are.
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Post by Baph on Nov 16, 2016 1:02:51 GMT -5
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Post by slaytan on Nov 16, 2016 3:58:23 GMT -5
Yes. I hate that fucker. Even if he does resemble the Lorax
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Post by Baph on Nov 16, 2016 11:24:09 GMT -5
While I do admire his dedication to turn-of-the-century mustache girth, everything out of his mouth is just tired, repackaged 1980s neocon think tank drivel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 13:41:11 GMT -5
RE: Bannon. I'm about ready to go down to Mass and start hitting people with my own version of Lucille. PatSox is taking this election better than every other person in his state. Every single friend I have from Mass on FB is all about trying to rip down the Electoral College now. They're posting fucking scripts to read from when you "call your Senator to tell them not to cooperate with the transition team if Stephen Bannon is kept on Trump's staff. Imagine being a senator and having to listen to this bullshit a few hundred times a day? Like, "Damn all my 'constituents' are so stupid that they need to read from a script." They are asking their Senators to ignore their Constitutionally mandated duty. Because they are a bunch of cry ass motherfuckers who can't handle that they lost and now want to change the system in what is- the dumbest way we could change it. Eliminating the Electoral College would be disaster. Calling senators and whining to them is pointless. Calling them and showing them that you're an easily fooled diptard who will spew lies because it suits your ill conceived, based on nothing but emotion, feelings only serves to discount the credit they give you as an intelligent adult.
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Post by hammerfaust on Nov 16, 2016 14:00:52 GMT -5
RE: Bannon. I'm about ready to go down to Mass and start hitting people with my own version of Lucille. PatSox is taking this election better than every other person in his state. Every single friend I have from Mass on FB is all about trying to rip down the Electoral College now. They're posting fucking scripts to read from when you "call your Senator to tell them not to cooperate with the transition team if Stephen Bannon is kept on Trump's staff. Imagine being a senator and having to listen to this bullshit a few hundred times a day? Like, "Damn all my 'constituents' are so stupid that they need to read from a script." They are asking their Senators to ignore their Constitutionally mandated duty. Because they are a bunch of cry ass motherfuckers who can't handle that they lost and now want to change the system in what is- the dumbest way we could change it. Eliminating the Electoral College would be disaster. Calling senators and whining to them is pointless. Calling them and showing them that you're an easily fooled diptard who will spew lies because it suits your ill conceived, based on nothing but emotion, feelings only serves to discount the credit they give you as an intelligent adult. People have every right to contact their congressmen and voice their opinions. Although extremely rare, there have been cabinet appointments that have been rejected by the senate. More common is the withdrawal of a nominee before a senate vote.
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Post by Baph on Nov 16, 2016 14:33:37 GMT -5
Requesting evidence that Bannon is white supremacist or anti-Semite, else STFU.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 16, 2016 14:38:07 GMT -5
Requesting evidence that Bannon is white supremacist or anti-Semite, else STFU. No shit. Obama had Eric fucking Holder
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Post by Baph on Nov 16, 2016 14:40:27 GMT -5
Requesting evidence that Bannon is white supremacist or anti-Semite, else STFU. No shit. Obama had Eric fucking Holder And Van Jones, and Kathleen Sebelius, and a dozen other racially paranoid neo-Marxist fuck sticks . . . but when you're hip, you're bulletproof. Hell, the dude was literally drone bombing weddings in non war zones while accepting his Nobel Peace Prize. You can't make this shit up.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 16, 2016 14:59:20 GMT -5
RE: Bannon. I'm about ready to go down to Mass and start hitting people with my own version of Lucille. PatSox is taking this election better than every other person in his state. Every single friend I have from Mass on FB is all about trying to rip down the Electoral College now. They're posting fucking scripts to read from when you "call your Senator to tell them not to cooperate with the transition team if Stephen Bannon is kept on Trump's staff. Imagine being a senator and having to listen to this bullshit a few hundred times a day? Like, "Damn all my 'constituents' are so stupid that they need to read from a script." . The senators don't hear those calls, they just read the logs, and the ones who fall for that crap get voted out ala Eric Cantor
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Post by Angelo on Nov 16, 2016 15:05:28 GMT -5
People have every right to contact their congressmen and voice their opinions. Although extremely rare, there have been cabinet appointments that have been rejected by the senate. More common is the withdrawal of a nominee before a senate vote. Funny enough when I was working politics back in PA, the congressmen and Senators from the state said a majority of those script calls were from Republicans. Though guess not that funny as they have a habit of being more involved in actual politics it seems. Anyways Bannon doesn't need to be approved senate, he isn't being assigned a cabinet position but an advisor position. On top of that, I'm starting to think Priebus as CoS was not Trump's decision. It makes no sense at all. None. I think it was blackmail, RNC & now- Majority leaders saying you have him in here or we don't approve any appointments, etc..
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Post by hammerfaust on Nov 16, 2016 15:49:08 GMT -5
Requesting evidence that Bannon is white supremacist or anti-Semite, else STFU. I haven't seen any evidence to support that he is a white supremacist or an anti-semite. But he is apparently a self-proclaimed Leninist, so he has that going for him.
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Post by Baph on Nov 16, 2016 15:57:28 GMT -5
Requesting evidence that Bannon is white supremacist or anti-Semite, else STFU. I haven't seen any evidence to support that he is a white supremacist or an anti-semite. But he is apparently a self-proclaimed Leninist, so he has that going for him. An alt-right conservative is a Leninist? In what way, specifically? I mean . . . what does that even mean?
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Post by hammerfaust on Nov 16, 2016 16:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by jasonkl on Nov 16, 2016 18:07:35 GMT -5
I have been going into. Breinart and trying to find things that bannon has said or written and mostly all you see is what others say about him and the site and about 10 headlines from the site that can be seen as offensive.
Nothing even remotely close to the you tube videos once can easily find of onama's reversnd wright and his incredibly racist god damn America sermons. Now Obama didn't give him any roles in Hobert so it's not exactly the same thing.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 16, 2016 18:13:14 GMT -5
I have been going into. Breinart and trying to find things that bannon has said or written and mostly all you see is what others say about him and the site and about 10 headlines from the site that can be seen as offensive. Nothing even remotely close to the you tube videos once can easily find of onama's reversnd wright and his incredibly racist god damn America sermons. Now Obama didn't give him any roles in Hobert so it's not exactly the same thing. Van Jones has had rants that are worse than Jeremiah Wright. I heard him say about conservatives "Since we can't open their minds, we'll have to open their skulls" edit: googled and failed to find the quote but I'm almost a hundred percent certain I'm remembering correctly. Could be misattributing but I very much doubt it
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 16, 2016 19:49:13 GMT -5
Van Jones is more of a bigot. He couldn't give any credit to the working class being fed up with Libs trying to only help the people that won't help themselves. He had to proclaim that the white man has lashed out against minorities by voting for Trump.
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Post by Baph on Nov 17, 2016 1:07:54 GMT -5
So we have hearsay, no video, interview, no nothing. Also, it seems like he was being sort of metaphorical, in that he's strongly anti-establishment: "and destroy all of today’s establishment.” Bannon included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press."The two party stranglehold on DC, the shitty Fox News/CNN/MSNBC stranglehold on media, the insider/lobbyist/politician establishment game of revolving doors . . . yeah, Lenin away, bro.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 12:38:01 GMT -5
Look guys. This Bannon shit should be kinda obvious.
He helped get Trump elected. He was integral to it. Trump went from flailing to on point in just the first week of Bannon being the "CEO" of his campaign. The establishment doesn't want him to have that continued advantage. Bannon was also responsible for taking Trump's twitter account away at the end of the election. Since the position Trump is putting Bannon in DOES NOT REQUIRE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL, this is much ado about nothing.
He's also not a white supremacist and there is nothing but hearsay to declare him an anti-semite. Nothing.
And every single fuckstick you see/hear calling him that are letting you know front and center that they are a sheep who still believes everything the media tells them without question.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 20:27:28 GMT -5
Trump isn't draining the swamp, he's fucking repopulating it. Let's just call a spade a spade... No one is going to shake shit up in Washington. Nobody.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 18, 2016 5:10:43 GMT -5
Trump isn't draining the swamp, he's fucking repopulating it. Elaborate
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