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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 13, 2020 10:30:45 GMT -5
We’re all cool with Trump admitting he’s sabotaging the USPS for the purpose of voter suppression, right? Seems like a job for Jeff Bezos... Small dent in his pocket... And I thought Trump already had it in for the USPS mostly cause they are Bezos' delivery system.
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 13, 2020 10:59:17 GMT -5
What, like you’ve never done anything that is obviously a waste of time and energy before? As long as you know you're wasting your time... You know that nobody is changing any one else's mind, right? Who said anything about changing minds? How could I even hope to do that here when collectively the remaining chuds only have about a third of a brain in the first place?
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Post by floater on Aug 13, 2020 11:15:45 GMT -5
As long as you know you're wasting your time... You know that nobody is changing any one else's mind, right? Who said anything about changing minds? How could I even hope to do that here when collectively the remaining chuds only have about a third of a brain in the first place? Really??? So I’m a “chud” and I only have a third of my brain? You poke and prod, but bring nothing to the table in the form of real conversation. Like HumanAgent said “answer a fucking question” you remind me of JonnyProphet thats bad!
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 13, 2020 11:17:18 GMT -5
As long as you know you're wasting your time... You know that nobody is changing any one else's mind, right? Who said anything about changing minds? How could I even hope to do that here when collectively the remaining chuds only have about a third of a brain in the first place? Usually changing someone's mind entails knowing things that they don't know and being smarter than them and showing them how they are wrong. You have failed to do this every step of the way. Obtaining an absentee ballot requires identification that verifies you are a valid participant in the election. Universal mail-in voting does not require anything but an address. See the problem? Or do you just want to ignore it?
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 13, 2020 11:23:35 GMT -5
Who said anything about changing minds? How could I even hope to do that here when collectively the remaining chuds only have about a third of a brain in the first place? Really??? So I’m a “chud” and I only have a third of my brain? You poke and prod, but bring nothing to the table in the form of real conversation. Like HumanAgent said “answer a fucking question” you remind me of JonnyProphet thats bad! Who said you were a chud? If you don’t spend 80% of your time here gargling Trump’s balls, you’re probably not a chud, right? Would I be wrong to assume that the chuds here probably wear that word like a badge of honor?
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 13, 2020 11:29:32 GMT -5
Why would anyone consider being a cannibalistic humanoid underground dweller a badge of honor? And why do you think that you're cool referencing an obscure sci-fi movie from 1984?
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 13, 2020 11:49:02 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else, but 'chud' rose to my conscience from Clerks 2.
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 13, 2020 12:31:02 GMT -5
As long as you know you're wasting your time... You know that nobody is changing any one else's mind, right? Who said anything about changing minds? How could I even hope to do that here when collectively the remaining chuds only have about a third of a brain in the first place? I know you're not going to answer this, what point is it you're trying to make with all your anti Trump posts? That all Trump supporters are chuds? Or you really have that much free time to engage someone who is never going to look at things the way you do?
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Post by slaytan on Aug 13, 2020 15:46:45 GMT -5
Chud is a good word. Was it a troma film? Never saw it or toxic avenger but they were legendary on the grade school playground
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 13, 2020 19:34:23 GMT -5
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 13, 2020 19:55:28 GMT -5
Oh no Eric, you're going to have to use a different carrier and not rely on the government for a cheap delivery system.
The USPS if it was a business would have got out of business many moons ago...
Is it petty that Trump doesn't want to help out the post office because it's Amazon's delivery boy? Yes!
Should the USPS adjust to the times and increase their fees to adjust to the times? Yes!
The USPS is always getting bailed out and at one point its going to have to adjust to the times or start charging Bezos more money or maybe Bezos can stick it to Trump and give a few billion of the many billion he's made during this plandemic to make sure the people can vote by mail!
And Eric can still send his Pokémon action figure across the country for a low flat rate of 5.95 in just two days!
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 13, 2020 19:57:29 GMT -5
The USPS was never meant to be a 'successful business'. It's a public utility like the roads or police and fire. I don't get this 'the usps isn't profitable' talk.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 13, 2020 20:10:22 GMT -5
The USPS was never meant to be a 'successful business'. It's a public utility like the roads or police and fire. I don't get this 'the usps isn't profitable' talk. Not intended to create profit. But capable of self sustaining, which it is failing to do partly because the "leaders" of The Postal Service are complacent "fuck boys" who are incapable of competing with the private sector. They need to bring Amazon to heel.
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 13, 2020 20:33:52 GMT -5
The USPS was never meant to be a 'successful business'. It's a public utility like the roads or police and fire. I don't get this 'the usps isn't profitable' talk. Every one knows that the USAF is a completely “self-sustaining” organization, right?
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 13, 2020 21:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 13, 2020 21:36:29 GMT -5
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 13, 2020 21:49:28 GMT -5
For some guys who swear they don't follow the media, a lot of "how high" when trump spun media says jump.
Magically an expert on the US postal service and how it should operate. Lemme guess...YouTube video will straighten me out on this issue as well?
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 13, 2020 22:42:34 GMT -5
For some guys who swear they don't follow the media, a lot of "how high" when trump spun media says jump. Magically an expert on the US postal service and how it should operate. Lemme guess...YouTube video will straighten me out on this issue as well? Hardly an expert. Just going off my own experience with dealing with a local Postmaster. He was rarely in the office and was worthless when he showed up. Lead me to look into the system that enables such indolence on a six figure salary. They have this fucked up notion of entitlement based on being "Constitutionally Necessary." It leads to inefficiency on a grand scale that can't compete with the private sector carriers. When I mail other board members cotraband I use FedEx.
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 13, 2020 22:45:10 GMT -5
For some guys who swear they don't follow the media, a lot of "how high" when trump spun media says jump. Magically an expert on the US postal service and how it should operate. Lemme guess...YouTube video will straighten me out on this issue as well? Well since you said guys, I'll tell you how well I got to know USPS... I knew this was coming, even before the pandemic reached this stage or even got to the idea of mail in votes... You think Sara having a rent check that can be canceled is bad... I sent out some acid out back in March and it took two months to arrive and it was supposed to be a two day priority! Obviously I looked into it, i use the pair office for a lot of my nefarious activities... For its affordable and quick delivery... Especially since I found out via a "friend" (had a "friend" turn informant, and his buddy at the DEA told him how to shop cocaine, any thing under 13 Oz would not get x rayed, but that's a whole different story)... So Sara may have just had her check delayed now having some acid take two months to get delivered!!?? This was long before the idea of mail in votes was a thought. So after a bit of research, it was expected that the USPS may be going bankrupt by the fall if it didn't get a bail out. It didn't get a bail out in during the first stimulus either. Of course, it hasn't stopped the USPS from spending 6.3 billion in new mail trucks...
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Post by MMAJim on Aug 13, 2020 23:22:51 GMT -5
Come on bro’s really? Some wanker on Twitter cries about late mail delivery and that trumps most people’s entire life experience. I work in an industry where documents (formerly worked for company shipping objects but we would not even allow usps as an option) absolutely have to be on time. Our admin people have had conversations everyday for 20 years about USPS not being the most reliable method if there is a deadline.
Two things can both be true. You want to say Trump is being a dilldo to USPS, that’s fine. However, a person can also utilize their own actual life experience to refute some Twitter rant acting like slow-or-lost mail has never happened before Trump.
Add on: also, you don’t have to use google or take direction from Trump to understand how USPS works in general.
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 13, 2020 23:31:11 GMT -5
Who still uses checks? Serious question to everyone but the guy who doesn't answer them... Lol
And Priority flat rate was the best. Never had an issue. 5.95, tracking number and no need to sign for it and two days, three days tops! Never had a late or lost package.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 14, 2020 5:54:42 GMT -5
For some guys who swear they don't follow the media, a lot of "how high" when trump spun media says jump. Magically an expert on the US postal service and how it should operate. Lemme guess...YouTube video will straighten me out on this issue as well? Hardly an expert. Just going off my own experience with dealing with a local Postmaster. He was rarely in the office and was worthless when he showed up. Lead me to look into the system that enables such indolence on a six figure salary. They have this fucked up notion of entitlement based on being "Constitutionally Necessary." It leads to inefficiency on a grand scale that can't compete with the private sector carriers. When I mail other board members cotraband I use FedEx. The only anecdote I have of the USPS is of an old acquaintance, letter carrier. He made a comfortable salary, and was caught nodding off from heroin and from alcohol on more than 1 occasion in the mail truck. In one instance, law enforcement was alerted by a passer by who called up on him believing he was having a medical event. Never lost his job. Held it till he died at like age 40
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Post by MMAJim on Aug 14, 2020 8:28:25 GMT -5
Forgot my most obvious example from the era of physical sporting event tickets. I have our family ticket package. USPS from Minneapolis to Green Bay ranges from 2 days to about 8. Would never feel good (and wouldn't use) USPS to send tickets on Monday for the following weeks game. 1 anecdote won't convince anyone, but it ain't new?
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 14, 2020 15:27:26 GMT -5
So are we ok agreeing that the USPS was proper fuct before Trump took office and their current issues are not his fault?
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 15, 2020 16:28:47 GMT -5
"Der her her... Hey guyth I want to make it offithial that Twump is in fact NOT to blame for this. All agweed say I"
I don't know the answer to the postal service. But it can't just disappear. I know all the 'I'm a conservative dammit' types are all on board the 'private industry is better'. Zero of the private delivery services even do a tenth of the total deliveries the USPS makes a year. So let's pump the brakes on how efficient fed ex would be at handling the day to day mail deliveries the usps handles. There's zero evidence to show they could do it.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 15, 2020 16:36:08 GMT -5
U.s. postal service has been referred to as a Blockbuster service in a Netflix world.
One way to speed up and improve efficiency with the US Postal Service would be to eliminate junk mail. Since Banning things such as advertisements from the Postal Service seems to violate the First Amendment, just jack up the price. If you're sending unsolicited advertisements it should cost three times what it does.
This eliminates a shit ton of the waste that occurs in the Postal Service. How many days of the week are carriers out there delivering important mail which is a fraction of the rest of the junk they crammed into your box? When was the last time you had UPS and FedEx show up and drop a stack of useless papers on your porch?
All of my meaningful mail (bills) is digital. I have no reason to go to my mailbox. But I have to at least once a week or my carrier shows up at my front door all pissed off that they can't fit any more of the junk mail into my box.
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Post by floater on Aug 15, 2020 16:37:10 GMT -5
My experiences with the post office have been mostly good. Hate to see it go...
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 15, 2020 16:53:46 GMT -5
It's hilarious that trumpers are just like 'yeah, it seems perfectly reasonable to go after the postal service now when people are stuck at home and need deliveries. It doesn't seem like a politically motivated (and media driven) agenda at all. I'm a free thinker....Now, what can we create an agenda out of thin air for something 'liberals' are advocating for'.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 15, 2020 17:00:30 GMT -5
It's hilarious that trumpers are just like 'yeah, it seems perfectly reasonable to go after the postal service now when people are stuck at home and need deliveries. It doesn't seem like a politically motivated (and media driven) agenda at all. I'm a free thinker....Now, what can we create an agenda out of thin air for something 'liberals' are advocating for'. It's actually kind of pathetic that you keep on falling for the same bullshit by using terms like "Trumpers" and all of this other stuff to try and imply that there is a large group of people out there who think exactly the same way just because they voted for the same guy. If people need deliveries made, there are options beyond the post office. You know this. But, for all your Jibber jabbering about taxpayer dollars being wasted it's kind of hilarious to see you unabashedly backing a government agency that has consistently bled money due to poor management.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 15, 2020 17:02:49 GMT -5
I have never complained about taxpayer money being used to help citizens. I bitch when it's actively used to hinder or hurt citizen's lives and freedoms.
You are a monolithic thinking bunch as a whole. The trump driven media says 'Jump about usps' and you guys without even a consideration just start spouting the propaganda you're being fed. And worse in your case, act like you weren't just fed this idea and you've actually been thinking it for your whole life.
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