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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 15, 2020 17:29:11 GMT -5
Just a few random questions for the 'abolish the post office' folks. Sorry if I'm stepping on someone else's bit here.
What about remote/off grid living Americans who rely on PO boxes in nearest small towns? Same goes for farmers?
Fed Ex and UPS putting up retail locations with address boxes in towns of 500 people?
What do we do with the millions of Americans and businesses who's only address is a PO Box?
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 15, 2020 18:19:02 GMT -5
I have never complained about taxpayer money being used to help citizens. I bitch when it's actively used to hinder or hurt citizen's lives and freedoms. You are a monolithic thinking bunch as a whole. The trump driven media says 'Jump about usps' and you guys without even a consideration just start spouting the propaganda you're being fed. And worse in your case, act like you weren't just fed this idea and you've actually been thinking it for your whole life. The "Trump Driven Media" WTF is that? I'd love to see it. I don't really care about the postal service. I think it's an archaic and antiquated business structure that has been taken advantage of by Corporate America for far too long. What I will say is that I don't rely on it when I need something to get somewhere quickly. Haven't for a very long time. It's like that shitty beater truck you have in your backyard that you fire up every once in awhile when you need to make a trip to the dump. It might be able to handle hauling stuff a few miles every once in awhile but if you tried to take a cross-country trip in it you'd be lucky to get out of your state before it broke. That's exactly what they want to do with universal mail-in voting. I'd like to hear the anti trumper's denounce Universal mail-in voting and prove that they actually pay attention and are still capable of a little bit of Common Sense.
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 15, 2020 18:19:25 GMT -5
I don't think it should be abolished. I think if many other businesses can be bailed out and have been bailed out, so can the post office. A lot of people do need it's services but a lot of services have to go up in price, just the reality. They have to stop making it political. There really is no need to have mail in voting, if it's one of the greatest rights Americana have, it's damn worth it in case you catch a little cold.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 15, 2020 18:30:22 GMT -5
The post office is a good example of how terrible the government is at managing things. Their prices are artificially low because of some taxpayer funding and the fact is that a lot of these companies are getting close to a free ride with their bulshit advertising that is subsidized by John Q Taxpayer.
I don't think they should be abolished. I think they should be allowed to compete.
Just like Medicare should be allowed to negotiate drug prices, but for some stupid reason are not.
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 15, 2020 18:37:44 GMT -5
I don't think it should be abolished. I think if many other businesses can be bailed out and have been bailed out, so can the post office. A lot of people do need it's services but a lot of services have to go up in price, just the reality. They have to stop making it political. There really is no need to have mail in voting, if it's one of the greatest rights Americana have, it's damn worth it in case you catch a little cold. It’s been around since the Civil War, and it’s how Donald Trump votes, so why is voting by mail in the middle of the biggest pandemic in a century an issue? If it’s one of the greatest rights we have, shouldn’t every effort be made to make sure we can do it safely?
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Post by slaytan on Aug 15, 2020 20:00:07 GMT -5
I don't think it should be abolished. I think if many other businesses can be bailed out and have been bailed out, so can the post office. A lot of people do need it's services but a lot of services have to go up in price, just the reality. They have to stop making it political. There really is no need to have mail in voting, if it's one of the greatest rights Americana have, it's damn worth it in case you catch a little cold. It’s been around since the Civil War, and it’s how Donald Trump votes, so why is voting by mail in the middle of the biggest pandemic in a century an issue? If it’s one of the greatest rights we have, shouldn’t every effort be made to make sure we can do it safely? ghostoftc already explained that quite completely, chuddles
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 15, 2020 20:03:38 GMT -5
I don't think it should be abolished. I think if many other businesses can be bailed out and have been bailed out, so can the post office. A lot of people do need it's services but a lot of services have to go up in price, just the reality. They have to stop making it political. There really is no need to have mail in voting, if it's one of the greatest rights Americana have, it's damn worth it in case you catch a little cold. It’s been around since the Civil War, and it’s how Donald Trump votes, so why is voting by mail in the middle of the biggest pandemic in a century an issue? If it’s one of the greatest rights we have, shouldn’t every effort be made to make sure we can do it safely? I don't think it's that reliable to accommodate millions upon million of people. How long are you going to wait to make sure every ballot arrives? Well, don't answer that... People can go wait in line for toilet paper, protest, they can wait in line to vote. It's just that when one sides is really pushing for one thing you know they have an ulterior motive, you can't trust these politicians, on either side. Just my 2 cents... And to quote the great Eazy E....
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 15, 2020 20:40:43 GMT -5
It’s been around since the Civil War, and it’s how Donald Trump votes, so why is voting by mail in the middle of the biggest pandemic in a century an issue? If it’s one of the greatest rights we have, shouldn’t every effort be made to make sure we can do it safely? ghostoftc already explained that quite completely, chuddles Did I ask you or that moron for any input? No, I asked HumanAgent, so why don’t you stick to telling everyone how you have grit, but you can’t talk about it?
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 15, 2020 20:44:10 GMT -5
It’s been around since the Civil War, and it’s how Donald Trump votes, so why is voting by mail in the middle of the biggest pandemic in a century an issue? If it’s one of the greatest rights we have, shouldn’t every effort be made to make sure we can do it safely? I don't think it's that reliable to accommodate millions upon million of people. How long are you going to wait to make sure every ballot arrives? Well, don't answer that... People can go wait in line for toilet paper, protest, they can wait in line to vote. It's just that when one sides is really pushing for one thing you know they have an ulterior motive, you can't trust these politicians, on either side. Just my 2 cents... And to quote the great Eazy E.... Utah has had reliable universal mail-in ballots for years, and you think somehow the other states can’t do it? Fucking Utah? And maybe there are ulterior motives, but only one party’s entire strategy at this point relies on preventing people from voting, so do you think this maybe isn’t a “both sides are equally bad” situation?
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Post by floater on Aug 15, 2020 20:50:16 GMT -5
Ha! I can't remember my mothers birthday, but I've got Eazy E lyrics permanently memorized...
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 15, 2020 21:38:42 GMT -5
ghostoftc already explained that quite completely, chuddles Did I ask you or that moron for any input? No, I asked HumanAgent, so why don’t you stick to telling everyone how you have grit, but you can’t talk about it? The beauty is that you don't have a say in who makes you look like the slack jawed retard you are. Your postal service whining is ignoring the bigger issue, which means you're either ignorant, deleriously partisan or both. Since you can't have an actual conversation, you'll keep getting talked at rather than spoken too. And if you don't like that, you've no one to blame but yourself. Ya stupid dick.
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 15, 2020 23:35:36 GMT -5
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 16, 2020 9:03:56 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, it's trunp. None of this shit is going to change people's minds.
I was asked/told about trump voters not being one group that thinks alike. It is though. I obviously don't think that everyone that voted for him in 2016 was like this that it's gotten to today. But at this point if you're still like "oh yeah drump is my guy. He's best president ever!". You're a part of a (moronic) hive mind. There's no other way around it.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 16, 2020 9:26:35 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, it's trunp. None of this shit is going to change people's minds. I was asked/told about trump voters not being one group that thinks alike. It is though. I obviously don't think that everyone that voted for him in 2016 was like this that it's gotten to today. But at this point if you're still like "oh yeah drump is my guy. He's best president ever!". You're a part of a (moronic) hive mind. There's no other way around it. This is all declaration without support.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 16, 2020 10:16:44 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, it's trunp. None of this shit is going to change people's minds. I was asked/told about trump voters not being one group that thinks alike. It is though. I obviously don't think that everyone that voted for him in 2016 was like this that it's gotten to today. But at this point if you're still like "oh yeah drump is my guy. He's best president ever!". You're a part of a (moronic) hive mind. There's no other way around it. Yeah. Hive mind is the only answer. Except most Trump supporters are silent about it. A silent hive mind? How does that work? Telepathy? Or maybe millions and millions just appreciate a stronger, different aporoach? MAYBE those millions and millions had a strong gut feeling that the prior administration WAS corrupt and WAS engaging in nefarious tactics which are now being exposed in a very big fashion. (Those millions of idiots were right.) There's a landslide coming and you're gonna have a chicken farm load of egg on your face in a few months. It's gonna be gloriously amusing.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 16, 2020 14:26:23 GMT -5
Oh no...a graph and a headline. How will I ever survive?
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Post by slaytan on Aug 16, 2020 14:41:08 GMT -5
Oh no...a graph and a headline. How will I ever survive? “Oh look, data! Haha haha snarf snarf” was the CIA involved?
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 16, 2020 15:08:41 GMT -5
Oh no...a graph and a headline. How will I ever survive? “Oh look, data! Haha haha snarf snarf” was the CIA involved? Self reported survey data. Oh wait, it's reliable now because it's convenient?
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 16, 2020 15:42:55 GMT -5
“Oh look, data! Haha haha snarf snarf” was the CIA involved? Self reported survey data. Oh wait, it's reliable now because it's convenient? No, king of the derps, it's reliable because it's data-driven fact. But I know, you are voting for the guy who said "we want truth over facts." Your hive mind theory is bullshit and the graph backs that up. Liberals are the ones who feel comfortable spewing their bullshit all over the place in public. ( how Hive minds are actually directed ). Conservatives just keep their mouth shut and do their talking at the voting booth. Not the mailbox. The voting booth. If you were a professional baseball player and this thread were indicative of your career, you would be a less than .150 hitter. It's just another way that us real conservatives know that Trump is going to win.
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 16, 2020 15:51:48 GMT -5
“Oh look, data! Haha haha snarf snarf” was the CIA involved? Self reported survey data. Oh wait, it's reliable now because it's convenient? Please enlighten us: what about the Cato Institute's methodology makes this poll unreliable? Is it so hard to believe that most 'conservatives' know their beliefs are viewed negatively by moderates and liberals?
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 16, 2020 15:56:17 GMT -5
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 16, 2020 15:59:26 GMT -5
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 17, 2020 19:15:29 GMT -5
Who gives a solitary fuck about North Carolina besides suckerfree?
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Post by slaytan on Aug 19, 2020 10:14:33 GMT -5
Andrew, have you been watching the DNC convention? These are your people
..and this isn’t any more freak show than the politicians
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 20, 2020 12:39:02 GMT -5
The DNC is hilarious. In 2016 they had thousands of balloons falling on thousands of people from an arena ceiling. Now they have five women badly dancing towards the nominee in some empty middle school library firing off hand held pop streamers.
One night of watching this shit should fill your annual cringe quota.
If Trump loses to this group suffering from an epic lack of cohesion I'll be more dumbfounded than suckerfree.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 21, 2020 9:05:04 GMT -5
Haven't watched any of it. I'm sure it's been fascinatingly goofy. But let's not act like the conventions are ever a shining moment for either party. The RNC has been some of the most ridiculous shit anyone has ever seen at times as well.
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Post by MMAJim on Aug 21, 2020 9:12:13 GMT -5
I regrettably had it on for 5-10 mins. It completely reaffirmed my position of not watching either 'convention,' for presidential elections.
I still think an actual debate, with wide-ranging questions, would be must see TV. I am still not 100% convinced a debate or a live long form interview involving Biden will ever occur. At most, I'd expect semi-pre-recorded and short softball question sessions.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 21, 2020 9:14:06 GMT -5
Haven't watched any of it. I'm sure it's been fascinatingly goofy. But let's not act like the conventions are ever a shining moment for either party. The RNC has been some of the most ridiculous shit anyone has ever seen at times as well. I challenge you to watch both and still say the Republican are “just as bad/stupid” Also: can you elaborate on your statement (certainly not pulled from your ass) about the RNC being “some of the most ridiculous shit anyone has ever seen?” Examples? Because you’re not a god-damn-stupid-liar or anything
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Post by floater on Aug 21, 2020 9:57:55 GMT -5
I regrettably had it on for 5-10 mins. It completely reaffirmed my position of not watching either 'convention,' for presidential elections. I still think an actual debate, with wide-ranging questions, would be must see TV. I am still not 100% convinced a debate or a live long form interview involving Biden will ever occur. At most, I'd expect semi-pre-recorded and short softball question sessions. I consider myself slightly left of center, but if Biden doesn’t debate... I’m gonna vote Trump. On a sidenote, I heard a funny joke the other day. Voting for Biden is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt!
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 21, 2020 10:42:27 GMT -5
Haven't watched any of it. I'm sure it's been fascinatingly goofy. But let's not act like the conventions are ever a shining moment for either party. The RNC has been some of the most ridiculous shit anyone has ever seen at times as well. I challenge you to watch both and still say the Republican are “just as bad/stupid” Also: can you elaborate on your statement (certainly not pulled from your ass) about the RNC being “some of the most ridiculous shit anyone has ever seen?” Examples? Because you’re not a god-damn-stupid-liar or anything Scott Bao and Clint Eastwood.
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