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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 10:52:47 GMT -5
Oh shit, your right. I didn't see that at all, and no one said anything about it lastnight. The dude was sitting on the cage when Conor hit him.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 7, 2018 10:53:14 GMT -5
Conor tried to follow Khabib into the crowd. He was stopped but while on top of the cage he punched the guy who was holding khabib's hat. Then when he was back in the cage he swung at a guy in a dark shirt, although the guy was being aggressive and was going to hit Conor, that's when the guy in the red jumped in and punched Conor.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 7, 2018 10:55:25 GMT -5
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 10:59:22 GMT -5
The Conor nuthuggery here is ridiculous from a few here. He threw punches at Khabibs brother before he got jumped by dude in the red shirt. Khabib didn't really do anything other than the missile drop kick into nobody. Ultimately this is what happens when one group just wants to talk about it and another is about it. Conor and company apparently said they wanted to drop all charges they could, so at least they aren't completely cowardice in the situation. The guy in the red shirt that hit Conor. Is he a fighter? They said at the presser that one or two of the people that attacked Conor were fighters. Dana said they would never fight for the UFC. So are they fighters and who were they?
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 11:07:39 GMT -5
So Conor hit two of Khabib's cornermen first. He hit the guy on the cage then hit the guy that jumped into the cage. Dana made it seem like poor Conor was just sitting on the mat when he was assaulted. I didn't notice Conor throwing punches until the videos above.
Oh Conor didn't hurt those guys with the shots either.
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Post by verbal0knit on Oct 7, 2018 11:22:07 GMT -5
So Conor hit two of Khabib's cornermen first. He hit the guy on the cage then hit the guy that jumped into the cage. Dana made it seem like poor Conor was just sitting on the mat when he was assaulted. I didn't notice Conor throwing punches until the videos above. Oh Conor didn't hurt those guys with the shots either. Wow are you guys all completely dense? Habib left the octagon to attack the crowd after the fight and then his cornermen started to bumrush the ring. Conor followed habib to keep habib from assaulting his corner, and then habib's team bumrushed the octagon. WHY DID HABIB LEAVE THE CAGE TO ASSAULT THE AUDIENCE? WHY DID HIS CORNERMEN BUMRUSH THE RING? If Habib didnt leave the octagon to assault the crowd, and if his cornermen didn't bumrush the ring in an aggressive fashion, then Conor wouldn't have needed to take a swing at them in self defense. Law is law, even in the octagon.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 11:24:56 GMT -5
you guys are right - conor did also start throwing. But to feign ignorance like Conor cold clocked anyone is pure hate (typical of andrew). Khabib started it ALL by jumping into the crowd. That's a fact no matter how much anyone hates Conor and a fact the Nevada State Athletic Commission will surely point out. Once the gang fight starts and more of Khabib's team is trying to go into the crowd, anyone hitting them is fair game.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 11:25:50 GMT -5
Fake news. It's all on video and Conor was attacked where he was and never got out of the ring to prompt any of it. You’re incorrect. Conor was over the top of the cage throwing punches before the guys jumped in the cage. You're right.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 11:26:33 GMT -5
This shows it all. Khabib goes out. Then one of Khabib’s guys follows him. Conor throws punches while the guy is climbing over the fence. Conor started the shit that happened in the cage, plain and simple. Fact. http://instagram.com/p/BonrZXHjRTe
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 11:33:05 GMT -5
So Conor hit two of Khabib's cornermen first. He hit the guy on the cage then hit the guy that jumped into the cage. Dana made it seem like poor Conor was just sitting on the mat when he was assaulted. I didn't notice Conor throwing punches until the videos above. Oh Conor didn't hurt those guys with the shots either. Wow are you guys all completely dense? Habib left the octagon to attack the crowd after the fight and then his cornermen started to bumrush the ring. Conor followed habib to keep habib from assaulting his corner, and then habib's team bumrushed the octagon. WHY DID HABIB LEAVE THE CAGE TO ASSAULT THE AUDIENCE? WHY DID HIS CORNERMEN BUMRUSH THE RING? If Habib didnt leave the octagon to assault the crowd, and if his cornermen didn't bumrush the ring in an aggressive fashion, then Conor wouldn't have needed to take a swing at them in self defense. Law is law, even in the octagon. Watch the top video on this page. When Conor jumped on the fence to help his cornerman, one of Khabib's teammates jumped on the cage to protect Khabib. Didn't even look at Conor, and Conor hit him. Conor straight up sucker punched him It wasn't the "Audience" it was that one guy from Conor camp. I guess the guy shouldn't have motioned for Khabib to come on.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 11:35:36 GMT -5
I take back what I said about the dude in the crowd saying something to make Khabib got nuts. But nope. Khabib started the whole thing. Most people here have become casuals to not know(thank god) the turd that is Dillon Danis. I give Khabib a pass. Conor talked trash the whole time. Insulted Khabib's family and country, called his father a coward. Khabib still lives with his parents. It's a different culture out there. This is not where they kicked you out when you're 18. Some people will not let shit slide in victory or defeat. Conor has gotten with far too many shit because of the virtue of being Dana's cash cow. The culture where they allow their daughters to be raped and murdered and treat them as much lower class is NOT one of strong family values. GTFO with that nonsense. It's a primitive culture filled with ignorance, stupidity, and hate. Khabib is an awesome fighter but is the same fucking guy that talked a ton of shit in Brazil and pulls his own antics before fights. It's fight promotion and he isn't good at it, and took this too far because Conor got under his skin. Don't try and excuse his behavior or pretend it's okay because Conor acts like a tool. Conor made this fight push 2 million PPVs and a low class, dirt fuck like Khabib became rich because of it. He doesn't get it both ways - can't want the money and exposure for free.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 11:38:54 GMT -5
This shows it all. Khabib goes out. Then one of Khabib’s guys follows him. Conor throws punches while the guy is climbing over the fence. Conor started the shit that happened in the cage, plain and simple. Fact. http://instagr.am/p/BonrZXHjRTe Khabib jumped in the crowd to fight Conor's crew and then his brother tried joining him. Khabib started it all. Had Khabib NOT jumped into the stands (where he did zero and then ran like a pussy) none of this would have happened. Khabib started everything. You can't light a match and start a house on fire then claim it's not your fault the house burned down.
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 11:39:56 GMT -5
you guys are right - conor did also start throwing. But to feign ignorance like Conor cold clocked anyone is pure hate (typical of andrew). Khabib started it ALL by jumping into the crowd. That's a fact no matter how much anyone hates Conor and a fact the Nevada State Athletic Commission will surely point out. Once the gang fight starts and more of Khabib's team is trying to go into the crowd, anyone hitting them is fair game. Yes, Khabib started the stuff outside the cage. Conor started the stuff in the cage with the sucker punch. I will agree that the guy in the red shirt shouldn't have attached Conor from behind.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 11:41:44 GMT -5
I had Khabib by submission at +275 for $100 and Lewis at +140 for $100. Lost on Ferguson to win by decision at +300 for $50 (which may have won had Pettis not quit). Great night for my gambling.
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 11:48:21 GMT -5
I had Khabib by submission at +275 for $100 and Lewis at +140 for $100. Lost on Ferguson to win by decision at +300 for $50 (which may have won had Pettis not quit). Great night for my gambling. Nice bets. I had Khabib by ko, Over 2.5 rounds and something else. I only won one. Did you do any of the picks I sent you? I did good on College yesterday.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 11:51:52 GMT -5
I’m not saying Khabib isn’t at fault. I’m saying the UFC and media is acting like Conor did nothing but stand there and watch it unfold, which is entirely untrue.
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 12:02:35 GMT -5
Conor wants a rematch. I'm surprised about this. He really didn't have much for Khabib.
Tony F is going to be pissed if they do a rematch. LOL
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 12:23:29 GMT -5
I see no reason for a rematch. Conor wasn’t champ. It would make no sense.
I’d rather see Tony, Dustin or Nate against Khabib.
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 12:31:07 GMT -5
I see no reason for a rematch. Conor wasn’t champ. It would make no sense. I’d rather see Tony, Dustin or Nate against Khabib. It will sell. Its the only reason the UFC needs
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 12:37:10 GMT -5
I think Dana and everyone is blowing this shit way out of proportion.. Sure, Khabib should have stayed in the cage, but did he really even get a hold of Dillon?
It looks like right after he landed, they were separated. Was there any real physical contact made?
I can see getting rid of the guys who jumped in the cage, but travel issues? Stripping the belt? Come the fuck on.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 7, 2018 13:15:27 GMT -5
Khabib jumped out of the cage to engage one guy... Conor showed up with 30 people to engage one guy. Had a weapon, hurt others, ruined a card, had fighters pulled from their fight and got off with a slap on the wrist. Spare me the outrage.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 13:19:01 GMT -5
Khabib jumped out of the cage to engage one guy... Conor showed up with 30 people to engage one guy. Had a weapon, hurt others, ruined a card, had fighters pulled from their fight and got off with a slap on the wrist. Spare me the outrage. Agreed.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 13:19:46 GMT -5
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 7, 2018 13:44:09 GMT -5
The Conor nuthuggery here is ridiculous from a few here. He threw punches at Khabibs brother before he got jumped by dude in the red shirt. Khabib didn't really do anything other than the missile drop kick into nobody. Ultimately this is what happens when one group just wants to talk about it and another is about it. Conor and company apparently said they wanted to drop all charges they could, so at least they aren't completely cowardice in the situation. The guy in the red shirt that hit Conor. Is he a fighter? They said at the presser that one or two of the people that attacked Conor were fighters. Dana said they would never fight for the UFC. So are they fighters and who were they? Zubaira Tukhugov was one. He was supposed to fight Lobov next month. He's been pulled from the fight.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 7, 2018 13:52:45 GMT -5
The guy in the red shirt that hit Conor. Is he a fighter? They said at the presser that one or two of the people that attacked Conor were fighters. Dana said they would never fight for the UFC. So are they fighters and who were they? Zubaira Tukhugov was one. He was supposed to fight Lobov next month. He's been pulled from the fight. Haha. The irony.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 15:00:07 GMT -5
The issue isn't about what the fighters do to each other - who cares about that. No one would care if Khabib knocked out Conor's mouthy coach. It's the danger that it creates for fans and others sitting ring side that get sucked into a melee, a ton of big and ready security that has to run people over to get into the melee, and it being televised. You can't have some woman get accidentally elbowed in the face because Khabib decides he wants to jump into the crowd and create chaos. And because you can't, he will definitely be suspended and fined by the NSAC.
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2018 15:16:39 GMT -5
The issue isn't about what the fighters do to each other - who cares about that. No one would care if Khabib knocked out Conor's mouthy coach. It's the danger that it creates for fans and others sitting ring side that get sucked into a melee, a ton of big and ready security that has to run people over to get into the melee, and it being televised. You can't have some woman get accidentally elbowed in the face because Khabib decides he wants to jump into the crowd and create chaos. And because you can't, he will definitely be suspended and fined by the NSAC. I can understand that. But if Conor didn't get suspened for what he did, I don't think Khabib should either. Conor did cause damage and people did get hurt.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 7, 2018 15:27:31 GMT -5
The issue isn't about what the fighters do to each other - who cares about that. No one would care if Khabib knocked out Conor's mouthy coach. It's the danger that it creates for fans and others sitting ring side that get sucked into a melee, a ton of big and ready security that has to run people over to get into the melee, and it being televised. You can't have some woman get accidentally elbowed in the face because Khabib decides he wants to jump into the crowd and create chaos. And because you can't, he will definitely be suspended and fined by the NSAC. I can understand that. But if Conor didn't get suspened for what he did, I don't think Khabib should either. Conor did cause damage and people did get hurt. Conor also said if Khabib had stepped out of the bus he'd be dead. The danger Conor created attacking a bus with a weapon was much worse. I can see a short suspension and/or a fine but not stripped. It's not excusable but it's not as bad as people made it seem to be.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 7, 2018 15:59:51 GMT -5
I can understand that. But if Conor didn't get suspened for what he did, I don't think Khabib should either. Conor did cause damage and people did get hurt. Conor also said if Khabib had stepped out of the bus he'd be dead. The danger Conor created attacking a bus with a weapon was much worse. I can see a short suspension and/or a fine but not stripped. It's not excusable but it's not as bad as people made it seem to be. Agree. I don't think the NSAC can strip him - right? That would only be the UFC and it would be sick if they did.
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Post by johncfc on Oct 7, 2018 16:14:54 GMT -5
Looking back, Khabib shouldn't have left the cage. He's pretty lucky nobody got seriously hurt, because all the money he made would be going towards payoffs and lawyer fees.
All the shit Khabib said at the press coverage regarding Conor's behaviour being excused is true, but he ended up sinking just as low as Conor. It would have been a much stronger point if he didn't act like a douche after the fight.
I wouldn't be surprised if Khabib retires. Not sure if I read it here or somewhere else, but he's been in the game a long time. He's not a fan of the business, and he might not want to be a part of it anymore.
I would like to see Khabib smash Tony though.
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