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Post by jamesod on Oct 19, 2018 10:50:04 GMT -5
I don't think Conor has to have a tune up fight in order to get the To u/Khabib winner. If he waits, he still gets it I think. I agree that it is in his best interest to take a fight and get the rust off and build his confidence. I also agree that there are no guarantees he beats either Nate or Dustin (most sensible fights). The easiest fight for Conor, and I know you won't like this, is probably Aldo at 155. I actually mentioned this. I don't care if Aldo wins or lose. Just give this man his rematch and be over it. Because frankly, the LW division would kill Conor. I haven't been following this thread. Are you trolling Conor fans or are you serious? Conor is the only fighter in the UFC to have won a round against Khabib (although Tibau would like to have some words with some judges). Conor is a legit talent. A guy who destroys Porier, Aldo, and Alvarez, beats Holloway, and takes a round off Khabib, is not someone who gets killed by the LW division.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 19, 2018 11:30:16 GMT -5
I don't think Conor has to have a tune up fight in order to get the To u/Khabib winner. If he waits, he still gets it I think. I agree that it is in his best interest to take a fight and get the rust off and build his confidence. I also agree that there are no guarantees he beats either Nate or Dustin (most sensible fights). The easiest fight for Conor, and I know you won't like this, is probably Aldo at 155. I actually mentioned this. I don't care if Aldo wins or lose. Just give this man his rematch and be over it. Because frankly, the LW division would kill Conor. "Give this man his rematch". Okay, rematch offered and turned down. "I know he turned it down when offered, but give this man another rematch opportunity years later after he has been humiliated by the new champion TWICE". Your argument he deserves a rematch is weaker than Warren's claims she is an Indian. You're the mma #metoo movement for Aldo.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 19, 2018 13:59:41 GMT -5
I think we're on the verge of seeing Conor exposed.. That's my opinion...
Very good options... A lot of them. I'd like to see the Max rematch at 155... Dustin rematch would be nice too.. Tony...maybe Pettis
Far fetched fights, Woodley, GSP, Khabib rematch...
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Post by boboplata on Oct 19, 2018 14:00:48 GMT -5
I actually mentioned this. I don't care if Aldo wins or lose. Just give this man his rematch and be over it. Because frankly, the LW division would kill Conor. "Give this man his rematch". Okay, rematch offered and turned down. "I know he turned it down when offered, but give this man another rematch opportunity years later after he has been humiliated by the new champion TWICE". Your argument he deserves a rematch is weaker than Warren's claims she is an Indian. You're the mma #metoo movement for Aldo. Nobody fucking reads anymore. Let's just throw contemporary political/social keywords and be done with it.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 19, 2018 14:29:37 GMT -5
I think the only matches in the top 5 at LW that Conor would win are Poirier again and probably Barboza. But he could very easily lose both of those. I think he gets beat up by Ferguson, Lee, and obviously Khabib again. I think he's looking at like Pettis or Gaethje for a fight he'd very very likely win, and they are what, 6-7-8 area of the LW rankings? Not exactly a lot of prestige in winning those fights, but would probably get him back on track.
I think he needs to stay as far away from Kevin Lee as possible. Ferguson would at least be a stand up fight, so he'd have a chance to KO him. But I'd be confidently betting Ferguson, especially if he were a dog or a pick-em.
Basically what that tells me is that Conor is basically a solid 3-5 ranked LW fighter, and not much else. I think his days of walking around with any belts is permanently in the rear view mirror, short of him just pulling a Chael and catching amnesia and continuing to carry around a belt anyway.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 19, 2018 16:19:14 GMT -5
Two years ago Conor was P4P king. Now he can barely crack top 10. LOL.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 19, 2018 18:11:52 GMT -5
Two years ago Conor was P4P king. Now he can barely crack top 10. LOL. He wants the belts but not the responsibility of being a champ. I'll wait for these financial fans to respond.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 19, 2018 18:14:35 GMT -5
I think the only matches in the top 5 at LW that Conor would win are Poirier again and probably Barboza. But he could very easily lose both of those. I think he gets beat up by Ferguson, Lee, and obviously Khabib again. I think he's looking at like Pettis or Gaethje for a fight he'd very very likely win, and they are what, 6-7-8 area of the LW rankings? Not exactly a lot of prestige in winning those fights, but would probably get him back on track. I think he needs to stay as far away from Kevin Lee as possible. Ferguson would at least be a stand up fight, so he'd have a chance to KO him. But I'd be confidently betting Ferguson, especially if he were a dog or a pick-em. Basically what that tells me is that Conor is basically a solid 3-5 ranked LW fighter, and not much else. I think his days of walking around with any belts is permanently in the rear view mirror, short of him just pulling a Chael and catching amnesia and continuing to carry around a belt anyway. The only fighter I'm confident that he could beat. is Chiesa. And by confident, I'd give Conor a 70% chance. The rest are legit 50/50(Al, Barboza, Pettis, Gaethje, etc) and Khabib, Lee, Ferguson would walk him down.
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Post by johncfc on Oct 19, 2018 18:41:54 GMT -5
Two years ago Conor was P4P king. Now he can barely crack top 10. LOL. He wants the belts but not the responsibility of being a champ. I'll wait for these financial fans to respond. I'm a Conor fan and agree. I don't blame Conor or particularly care though.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 19, 2018 21:01:19 GMT -5
The responsibility of being a champ? Like Aldo? A guy that pulled out of a UFC record amount of fights? Nice consistency, bobo. If they practice bjj they get a pass on all things?
Conor cares about making money and a legacy, he doesn't actually give a fook about the belts. He IS reliable and when he says he will fight, he does. Injured or not, he fights. They can count on him. The guy shipping packages at Amazon isn't as important as Jeff Bezos - or is that analogy too financial for you simpletons? Fair has zero to do with it and as a Conor fan I have admitted that a million times. Fairness has never been what the UFC is about. They care about putting together PPV events that can sell in addition to getting contenders to fight champs.
I used to like Aldo. Then I slowly got tired of him always pulling out of fights. I echo what Max Holloway had to say about Aldo and this was before he easily destroyed him TWICE. Note - Max isn't a bjj black belt so I guess fuck him too?
"The whole thing with Aldo, and everybody thinking he’s the best for 10 years, that he’s unbeaten and the untouchable champ, and all that," Holloway said in a recent interview with MMA Fighting, per Chuck Mindenhall. "Then the whole thing with Conor thing came out, and he got knocked out, and everybody getting pissed off why he didn’t get a rematch after 13 seconds. These guys need to educate themselves in damn mixed martial arts. How many times has Aldo pulled out of a main event? Not counting the Conor time, how many times before that has Aldo pulled out of a fight? It’s happened a bunch of times."
After a promotional world tour that spanned several months, Aldo pulled out of his initial championship fight with McGregor at UFC 189, citing a rib injury for the last minute departure. A statistical breakdown in 2015 revealed Aldo’s tendency to pull out of fights, listing the Brazilian as one of the most unreliable fighters on the UFC roster.
‘Blessed’ vented his frustration on Twitter, implying that Aldo was suffering with a case of ‘PUSSY-ITIS’.
There it is from the CHAMP. Aldo is a pussy that doesn't deserve shit and pulls out of too many fights.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 19, 2018 21:12:02 GMT -5
The responsibility of being a champ? Like Aldo? A guy that pulled out of a UFC record amount of fights? Nice consistency, bobo. If they practice bjj they get a pass on all things. Conor cares about making money and a legacy, he doesn't actually give a fook about the belts. You know who does? Aldo, and he will never touch one again. I echo what Max Holloway had to say about Aldo and this was before he easily destroyed him TWICE. But Max isn't a bjj black belt so fuck him - he isn't a real MMA champ, right bobo? "The whole thing with Aldo, and everybody thinking he’s the best for 10 years, that he’s unbeaten and the untouchable champ, and all that," Holloway said in a recent interview with MMA Fighting, per Chuck Mindenhall. "Then the whole thing with Conor thing came out, and he got knocked out, and everybody getting pissed off why he didn’t get a rematch after 13 seconds. These guys need to educate themselves in damn mixed martial arts. How many times has Aldo pulled out of a main event? Not counting the Conor time, how many times before that has Aldo pulled out of a fight? It’s happened a bunch of times." After a promotional world tour that spanned several months, Aldo pulled out of his initial championship fight with McGregor at UFC 189, citing a rib injury for the last minute departure. A statistical breakdown in 2015 revealed Aldo’s tendency to pull out of fights, listing the Brazilian as one of the most unreliable fighters on the UFC roster. ‘Blessed’ vented his frustration on Twitter, implying that Aldo was suffering with a case of ‘PUSSY-ITIS’. You're making it sound that Aldo pulls out for no reason? Settle down, you posting like bitch right now.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 19, 2018 21:16:29 GMT -5
Of course Conor cares about the belts. He wouldn't have been so upset they stripped him and wouldn't have been carring around his belts before the Khabib fight. Why carry the 145 belt? Never had an intention in defending it. Unless you meant to say he doesn't care about defending them... Cause he never did.
Funny that Max now has pulled out of a few fights.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 19, 2018 22:59:56 GMT -5
The responsibility of being a champ? Like Aldo? A guy that pulled out of a UFC record amount of fights? Nice consistency, bobo. If they practice bjj they get a pass on all things. Conor cares about making money and a legacy, he doesn't actually give a fook about the belts. You know who does? Aldo, and he will never touch one again. I echo what Max Holloway had to say about Aldo and this was before he easily destroyed him TWICE. But Max isn't a bjj black belt so fuck him - he isn't a real MMA champ, right bobo? "The whole thing with Aldo, and everybody thinking he’s the best for 10 years, that he’s unbeaten and the untouchable champ, and all that," Holloway said in a recent interview with MMA Fighting, per Chuck Mindenhall. "Then the whole thing with Conor thing came out, and he got knocked out, and everybody getting pissed off why he didn’t get a rematch after 13 seconds. These guys need to educate themselves in damn mixed martial arts. How many times has Aldo pulled out of a main event? Not counting the Conor time, how many times before that has Aldo pulled out of a fight? It’s happened a bunch of times." After a promotional world tour that spanned several months, Aldo pulled out of his initial championship fight with McGregor at UFC 189, citing a rib injury for the last minute departure. A statistical breakdown in 2015 revealed Aldo’s tendency to pull out of fights, listing the Brazilian as one of the most unreliable fighters on the UFC roster. ‘Blessed’ vented his frustration on Twitter, implying that Aldo was suffering with a case of ‘PUSSY-ITIS’. You're making it sound that Aldo pulls out for no reason? Settle down, you posting like bitch right now. he has pulled out of more fights than any other fighter in UFC history. At some point the reason becomes irrelevant when he does it that often. You can make all the excuses you want with your emotional garbage but he pulled out of the first Conor fight, then finally fought him and got destroyed. Then demanded a rematch and it was offered to him, but he declined. Then he was given an opportunity to get the belt back when Conor was forced to give it up and what happened? He got destroyed. Then he was offered a rematch and what happened? He got destroyed again. No one gave a fuck or bought those fights either, but you put your hands over your ears and stomp your feet to that FACT saying "that doesn't matter because the financials don't matter". Unfortunately, for grown ups that understand the fight game, it does matter and especially if you continually LOSE. Hard to demand anything when you don't speak english, don't win and can't sell. Yet this is the guy you continue to beat the drum for in the most irrational case of fanboyism we have ever witnessed. Explain how he logically deserves anything at this point. Not emotionally because he's your favorite fighter, but logically how and why a guy on a one fight win streak that doesn't even speak english deserves a fight with Conor AFTER he has declined them in the past. Please go ahead and explain this. Saying "he's my favorite and he deserves it" isn't an argument.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 19, 2018 23:13:46 GMT -5
Of course Conor cares about the belts. He wouldn't have been so upset they stripped him and wouldn't have been carring around his belts before the Khabib fight. Why carry the 145 belt? Never had an intention in defending it. Unless you meant to say he doesn't care about defending them... Cause he never did. Funny that Max now has pulled out of a few fights. I won't disagree because I don't think he cared about defending it, but who was he supposed to defend the 145 title against? He cleaned out that division and Aldo wouldn't fight him, so who else? Him moving to 155 made sense when he did it. I'm not even defending the notion that he's unbeatable. Plenty of guys at 155 would give him trouble if they wanted to grapple, and they are all bigger than him. I think he KOs Barboza, Pettis and Poirier, probably loses to Ferguson, would have a good match up with Lee (Lee believes in his own striking, can't submit anyone and also gets winded). I would also like to point out Aldo recently ducked Cowboy Cerrone. Full on dick tuck. He ADMITS they accepted "depending on the opponent" and when it was Cerrone he was terrified and said hells no. Please get off the bobo cock sucking of Aldo. www.mmafighting.com/2018/9/11/17847654/jose-aldo-hopes-lightweight-debut-ufc-231-turning-down-donald-cerrone-fight-sao-pauloExcerpt: Cerrone was someone offered to you by the UFC? Exactly, the UFC (offered). When Glover pulled out and they had no main event, they asked if there was a possibility for me to fight. We accepted, depending on the opponent, and they offered Cerrone right after, and he had already agreed, and ‘Dede’ didn’t think it would be good because there wasn’t enough time. We needed some time to rest before we started another camp again, so it didn’t happen. But now we’re waiting for ‘Dede’ to talk to them again so we know who we’re fighting.
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Post by daywork on Oct 20, 2018 0:06:03 GMT -5
Not many guys out there will truly fight anyone anytime. Conor and Cerrone are the only ones I can think of. Big name guys anyways. Nate use to be that way.
OC, why the hate for Aldo? He put up a good fight against Conor. He just got clipped and couldn't continue LOL
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 20, 2018 0:33:12 GMT -5
Of course Conor cares about the belts. He wouldn't have been so upset they stripped him and wouldn't have been carring around his belts before the Khabib fight. Why carry the 145 belt? Never had an intention in defending it. Unless you meant to say he doesn't care about defending them... Cause he never did. Funny that Max now has pulled out of a few fights. I won't disagree because I don't think he cared about defending it, but who was he supposed to defend the 145 title against? He cleaned out that division and Aldo wouldn't fight him, so who else? Him moving to 155 made sense when he did it. I'm not even defending the notion that he's unbeatable. Plenty of guys at 155 would give him trouble if they wanted to grapple, and they are all bigger than him. I think he KOs Barboza, Pettis and Poirier, probably loses to Ferguson, would have a good match up with Lee (Lee believes in his own striking, can't submit anyone and also gets winded). I would also like to point out Aldo recently ducked Cowboy Cerrone. Full on dick tuck. He ADMITS they accepted "depending on the opponent" and when it was Cerrone he was terrified and said hells no. Please get off the bobo cock sucking of Aldo. www.mmafighting.com/2018/9/11/17847654/jose-aldo-hopes-lightweight-debut-ufc-231-turning-down-donald-cerrone-fight-sao-pauloExcerpt: Cerrone was someone offered to you by the UFC? Exactly, the UFC (offered). When Glover pulled out and they had no main event, they asked if there was a possibility for me to fight. We accepted, depending on the opponent, and they offered Cerrone right after, and he had already agreed, and ‘Dede’ didn’t think it would be good because there wasn’t enough time. We needed some time to rest before we started another camp again, so it didn’t happen. But now we’re waiting for ‘Dede’ to talk to them again so we know who we’re fighting. Wasn't Franke available but they chose Chad? Every fighter turns down fights for one or another reason. I'm not even defending Aldo I'm just saying Conor also picks and chooses. Then why not defend the LW either? Cause he wanted a "challenge" against Floyd that any smart fan knew he wouldn't win. He chases the money. Not a problem but defending either title would have been more of a challenge than boxing Floyd. And come on. Just cause he cleaned out the division doesn't mean he shouldn't defend it...? That's what pretty much every fighter does on his way to a title fight then when he becomes champ at least defend, once! Not one singe rematch? You're riding Conor just as hard when you start defending his moves soley based on his finally interest and his power/control in the UFC. Why does only Conor deserve rematches? Cause he makes money? What about the other dozens of rematches and immediate rematches that absolutely made no sense?
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 20, 2018 9:31:21 GMT -5
No, I am saying Conor DID offer Aldo a rematch and Aldo ran away. The CHAMP doesn't have to offer rematches over and over and over and you guys keep claiming they do. It doesn't make any sense. Who else was he supposed to rematch? How many times is it okay for Aldo to turn it down before Conor can move on? Who has Conor ever ducked? He went UP in weight so claiming his moves are financial only makes zero sense. They were far, far more difficult fights. Nate Diaz, Eddie Alvarez and Khabib are 10x better and tougher opponents than Jose Aldo - come on, lol. And I also disagree that fighting Floyd Mayweather was easier than fighting Aldo. LOL! Aldo?? hahahaha.
No, I never had a problem with Conor moving up to fight RDA and thought he deserved it. He was popular, had cleaned out the division, and going up to face RDA was huge for MMA. Aldo had already pulled out on him once and Conor knew a rematch with Aldo could take what? 12-18 months? Dude, Aldo LIED about a rib injury and showed his x-ray of an old wound to avoid Conor. The doctors said he could fight. Aldo was forced into fighting Conor when he wanted no part of him and you saw what happened - Cnor destroyed him in seconds. You're saying he never should have went up to fight RDA in what was the best fight in MMA at the time? Instead, he should have stayed at 145 for another 12-18 months waiting for Aldo to get ready, IF Aldo would have even fought him? Dude, there is ZERO chance Aldo would have fought Conor within a year. So no, I totally disagree. Conor is like Cerrone in that when he says he will fight, he fights. You can make a fight card knowing he will step in that ring even if he has a partially torn ACL or any ailment. Conor doesn't decline fights because he's likely to lose. Like Brock, because he can sell over a million PPVs, they are going to entertain Conor wanting to go up. It's a win/win for the UFC and 95% of the fans. You are part of the 5% that would rather have Conor sit and do nothing waiting on a bum like Aldo to man up and rematch him.
"Every fighter turns down fights" - wrong dude. Some fighters do and one does it more than all the others. The Aldo total dick tuck against Cerrone is reflective of a real fighter that actually will fight anyone anytime (Cerrone) and a bitch prima dona that refuses to fight unless he loves the match-up and is in pristine health with no bumps and bruises. Aldo is exactly what's wrong with MMA today and it's great to see him get his ass beat repeatedly. Cerrone would have smashed him so he declined. How can anyone respect that?
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 20, 2018 9:37:25 GMT -5
Not many guys out there will truly fight anyone anytime. Conor and Cerrone are the only ones I can think of. Big name guys anyways. Nate use to be that way. OC, why the hate for Aldo? He put up a good fight against Conor. He just got clipped and couldn't continue LOL I love Aldo for making me money by Conor destroying him. I like Conor's fighter mentality that he will fight anyone even if it means getting whooped. Took balls for him to rematch Nate after Nate stole his lunch money. Took balls to fight Khabib in by far the toughest match-up possible. I cant stand anyone defending Aldo given his history. He's not a fighter, he's an opportunist that wants to avoid risk but someone now without leverage. He will be getting KOd in Bellator soon and that's what his legacy deserves.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 20, 2018 10:11:45 GMT -5
You're just so stuck on the Aldo thing. GSP cleaned out his division. Conor just won a title and claimed to clean out a division, won another title at LW, definitely didn't clean out the division there. Didn't defend it once but carries his belts like he did. I'm not saying he should have rematched Aldo but based on previous others getting their instant rematch, it's not that far fetched. How bout a rematch for Chad who took the figh on two weeks notice? Or Frankie? Or just defend the title once? You make it seem like once he won the title there was absolutely nothing left for him to do. Defend is what pretty much every other champ has done.
I agree the RDA fight was a ledgit one but RDA didn't duck him, he broke his foot. I didn't say a fight with Aldo was more challenging, I said defending either of his titles would have been a bigger challenge. Example, Frankie at FW or anyone at LW. He's 1-1 at LW and 1-1 at WW, not the unstoppable force people make him out to be.
You make it seem like once a fighter wins the title they have cleaned out the division and it's mandatory to move on to the next division without defending. I'm sayin a champ should have to defend at least once even if it happens to be a rematch.
I understand you hate Aldo, RDA and any other non English speaking Brazilian but that doesn't take away from Conor never defending any of his titles and acting like a clown carring them as is he's still champ. He had the opportunity to defend and he chose not to as in he also turned down those fights... to go box
I rather a fighter not speak English or even speak at all if they're going to sound like Conor.
I do like that this fight has brought back somewhat of a discussion to the MMA side.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 20, 2018 10:58:16 GMT -5
He DID try and defend it - he fought Khabib and got smoked. What's the difference on who held the belt before the fight? They fought, which is Conor fighting the best 155er in the world. Same difference if he walked in with the belt or Khabib did, Conor didn't duck the best guy and they got in the cage. When Conor left to box the UFC tried making Khabib vs Ferguson and that not happening has nothing to do with Conor. The UFC didn't wait for Conor so who cares if he went to box? He didn't hold up belts. As for defending his 145 title vs going up in weight to fight RDA? The vast majority of fans would say going up in weight to fight a much tougher champ is more of a challenge that sitting at 145. So agree to disagree on that point. You seem to really, really care that he carried around fake belts. Haha - that's promotion and not something I care about. At the end of the fight one guy has the belt anyway. Plus, the UFC does interim belts so it's confusing who deserves to carry around anything.
I don't care about someone not speaking english. I don't respect fighters (or people in general) that make excuses and that included Tito, Vitor, definitely Aldo, RDA, and pretty much every brazilian ever. I respect someone like Conor, or Chuck, or Hendo who can lose a fight and NOT bring up injuries or make excuses as to why they lost. Man up and give your opponent respect for defeating you. That is much more important for the respect of your opponent, the REAL respect, than pre-fight shit talk to sell tickets.
Promotion IS part of the fight business and always will be, and the fighters willing to participate in that part of the business do better than those who don't. I find most of Conor's antics entertaining, but I don't take them all seriously. It's not he is a Diaz or Chael that loses and then claims he won.
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Post by daywork on Oct 20, 2018 15:34:04 GMT -5
Damn, Conor seems to be getting alot of hate lately. I know I sounded like I was hating on him before the fight. I said months ago that he would lose his next fight no matter who he fought. It had nothing to do with his skills. I just didn't think he was taking it as serious as in the past (not as hungry). His shit talk before the fight, what little I watched of it. I thought was lame. But overall, I bought the PPV because of him, not Khabib.
All he needs is a win in his next fight and you'll have Joe and company calling him the best P4P fighter again.
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Post by daywork on Oct 20, 2018 15:44:55 GMT -5
WTF. Anderson vs Conor ?!
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 20, 2018 15:56:53 GMT -5
Conor was going to fight for the belt whoever had it... Just happens that this champ, unlike Eddie is able to expose a couple of Conor's weakness... My argument, just like oc is so against an Aldo rematch, I am against a Khabib rematch. Juat now that more time has gone by everyone happens to agree with me, that Tony is rightfully next.
Conor got his way in getting the Khabib fight. He was champ but Tony had more rights to the belt than Conor did. Tony got screwed, he could have and should have fought Khabib. Now, no matter how much he cries, he's 1-1 in the LW division, back of the fucking line McNugget... back of the line...
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Post by daywork on Oct 20, 2018 16:00:54 GMT -5
Conor was going to fight for the belt whoever had it... Just happens that this champ, unlike Eddie is able to expose a couple of Conor's weakness... My argument, just like oc is so against an Aldo rematch, I am against a Khabib rematch. Juat now that more time has gone by everyone happens to agree with me, that Tony is rightfully next. Conor got his way in getting the Khabib fight. He was champ but Tony had more rights to the belt than Conor did. Tony got screwed, he could have and should have fought Khabib. Now, no matter how much he cries, he's 1-1 in the LW division, back of the fucking line McNugget... back of the line... Dana was saying Tony fights Khabib next. But that is Dana saying it. So you never know LOL
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 20, 2018 16:26:34 GMT -5
Conor was going to fight for the belt whoever had it... Just happens that this champ, unlike Eddie is able to expose a couple of Conor's weakness... My argument, just like oc is so against an Aldo rematch, I am against a Khabib rematch. Juat now that more time has gone by everyone happens to agree with me, that Tony is rightfully next. Conor got his way in getting the Khabib fight. He was champ but Tony had more rights to the belt than Conor did. Tony got screwed, he could have and should have fought Khabib. Now, no matter how much he cries, he's 1-1 in the LW division, back of the fucking line McNugget... back of the line... I never said I was for Conor vs Khabib, I said if Conor wants it I think he gets it. Big difference. I would prefer we see Tony vs Khabib and have always wanted to see that fight. And dude, Conor didn't "get his way". Dana scheduled the Khabib vs Ferguson multiple times (4) and multiple times those idiots either got hurt, pulled out or pulled some bullshit so they couldn't fight. That's Conor's fault and Conor getting what he wants? Come on! Memory check. How in the world did Tony get screwed? He got stripped because he was hurt and couldn't/wouldn't defend the belt and it was idle for one year. So Khabib got his shot against Al Iaqunita and took the belt from Tony who was hurt. It hasn't been Conor's belt for over a year so quit blaming him - he has nothing to do with any of this nor has he stopped anyone from fighting in his absence. Dana said publicly he was sick of booking Khabib vs Tony because 4 times was enough. Conor is a headliner against anyone so if he doesn't fight Khabib, I guess Diaz. But I will stick to my prediction the next Conor or Khabib fight is a rematch.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 20, 2018 18:25:38 GMT -5
Conor was going to fight for the belt whoever had it... Just happens that this champ, unlike Eddie is able to expose a couple of Conor's weakness... My argument, just like oc is so against an Aldo rematch, I am against a Khabib rematch. Juat now that more time has gone by everyone happens to agree with me, that Tony is rightfully next. Conor got his way in getting the Khabib fight. He was champ but Tony had more rights to the belt than Conor did. Tony got screwed, he could have and should have fought Khabib. Now, no matter how much he cries, he's 1-1 in the LW division, back of the fucking line McNugget... back of the line... I never said I was for Conor vs Khabib, I said if Conor wants it I think he gets it. Big difference. I would prefer we see Tony vs Khabib and have always wanted to see that fight. And dude, Conor didn't "get his way". Dana scheduled the Khabib vs Ferguson multiple times (4) and multiple times those idiots either got hurt, pulled out or pulled some bullshit so they couldn't fight. That's Conor's fault and Conor getting what he wants? Come on! Memory check. How in the world did Tony get screwed? He got stripped because he was hurt and couldn't/wouldn't defend the belt and it was idle for one year. So Khabib got his shot against Al Iaqunita and took the belt from Tony who was hurt. It hasn't been Conor's belt for over a year so quit blaming him - he has nothing to do with any of this nor has he stopped anyone from fighting in his absence. Dana said publicly he was sick of booking Khabib vs Tony because 4 times was enough. Conor is a headliner against anyone so if he doesn't fight Khabib, I guess Diaz. But I will stick to my prediction the next Conor or Khabib fight is a rematch. Cause Conor turned down a fight with Tony while Khabib was on his religious break... He wanted a title shot he waited and got that as his return fight. You know Conor was turning down fights this whole time. I get Dana was frustrated but he did try to set up Conor Tony first according to Tony and Conor hasn't disputed it. The fact that both were healthy on the same card but not fighting each other is Tony getting the rough end of the deal. UFC wise, life wise poor dude. He is one a very impressive run and was very unfortunate to have that happen. Sooooo I will stick with my prediction!
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 20, 2018 19:04:02 GMT -5
Conor turned down a Tony fight? I didn't know that. Anyway, we will see what happens on our predictions.
In other MMA news, Weidman is fighting Jacare. That's awesome and we finally get to see Weidman beat that brazilians ass.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 20, 2018 19:46:07 GMT -5
Conor turned down a Tony fight? I didn't know that. Anyway, we will see what happens on our predictions. In other MMA news, Weidman is fighting Jacare. That's awesome and we finally get to see Weidman beat that brazilians ass. Weidman is 1-3 in the USADA era. Fucking Brazilians, right?
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 20, 2018 20:20:19 GMT -5
Jacare's not an excuse making pussy like most brazilians and doesn't duck fights. Very easy to root for him. He should be the example a primadonna like Aldo tries to emulate. But I will take the wrestler with better stand-up to beat the king of bjj.
How's Anderson Silva doing? I heard Chris Weidman sent him a signed poster - maybe you can get one too?
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Post by boboplata on Oct 20, 2018 20:25:24 GMT -5
Meh. Anderson has a legacy. No one really talks about Buster Douglas. Weidman peaked already. 1-3 and complaining that they gave the title shot to Gastelum. Sorry, but Weidman is more of a primadonna than Aldo was.
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