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Post by johncfc on Oct 16, 2018 15:09:16 GMT -5
Looks like there won't be a rematch. I guess the UFC already offered Khabib 15 mil and he turned it down. He said he won't fight Conor again. He says he wants to fight Tony then retire. Even before his fight with Conor, I thought Khabib might retire after it. He does have unfinished business with Tony, so hopefully he fight him. There are reports that GSP is interested in fighting him. Maybe after the Tony fight he will fight GSP at a catchweight to bankroll his retirement. I'd prefer the Tony fight though.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 16, 2018 15:23:01 GMT -5
Khabib might be the most annoying champion ever. It burns, doesn't it? Alhamdulillah!
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 16, 2018 15:29:21 GMT -5
Shit is hilarious. Khabib doesn’t care about the money. I bet it’s killing Conor right now that he might have to fight someone else.
I’d rather see Khabib against just about anyone else.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 16, 2018 17:30:09 GMT -5
Shit is hilarious. Khabib doesn’t care about the money. I bet it’s killing Conor right now that he might have to fight someone else. I’d rather see Khabib against just about anyone else. I agree. Plus I really don't understand the rematch talk at all. Conor got wrecked in that fight, despite the fan boys in the media trying to paint it otherwise. Conor should fight someone he at least stands a chance of beating next, like Pettis or Nate.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 16, 2018 17:49:30 GMT -5
Unlike fighters like Khabib and Aldo, Conor is MUCH different in that he is willing to challenge himself and take difficult fights. He doesn't pull out claiming injury, doesn't hide, doesn't miss weight so he can avoid an opponent and DOES take on all challengers. He moved up in weight so he could take on bigger guys and gave Khabib a shot when everyone, including himself, knew Khabib would be the favorite. He got whooped by Khabib but wants to rematch because it's a challenge. He is willing to risk the ass beating again to see if he can compete with a vastly superior grappler. That's commendable even if it's ill advised.
Conor calls the shots. He's the draw, he's the money, and he's the reason a guy like Khabib is now on the radar.
I would like to see Khabib vs Ferguson, but I expect the UFC to do whatever Conor wants. Khabib and his sect of unwashed muslim scum mean absolutely zero to anyone but hardcore fans.
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 16, 2018 18:12:44 GMT -5
If $15M isn’t incentive enough to fight Conor, sounds like Conor will be fighting someone else. It sounds like Khabib is calling the shots now.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 16, 2018 18:31:42 GMT -5
Unlike fighters like Khabib and Aldo, Conor is MUCH different in that he is willing to challenge himself and take difficult fights. He doesn't pull out claiming injury, doesn't hide, doesn't miss weight so he can avoid an opponent and DOES take on all challengers. He moved up in weight so he could take on bigger guys and gave Khabib a shot when everyone, including himself, knew Khabib would be the favorite. He got whooped by Khabib but wants to rematch because it's a challenge. He is willing to risk the ass beating again to see if he can compete with a vastly superior grappler. That's commendable even if it's ill advised. Conor calls the shots. He's the draw, he's the money, and he's the reason a guy like Khabib is now on the radar. I would like to see Khabib vs Ferguson, but I expect the UFC to do whatever Conor wants. Khabib and his sect of unwashed muslim scum mean absolutely zero to anyone but hardcore fans.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 16, 2018 18:53:21 GMT -5
Khabib is calling the shots? LOL. And Aldo "deserves" a rematch with Conor? Well, at least you clowns are inconsistent and admit you still don't have the slightest understanding of the MMA landscape or elementary economics.
If Conor wants to fight Khabib, he is going to fight Khabib or Khabib won't fight anyone. The posturing by his muslim scum manager is fight hype, you morons.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 16, 2018 18:58:00 GMT -5
One would say that Khabib wanting to fight Tony is a challenge. Where fighting Conor is not really an option as far as testing himself. Yeah Conor wants a rematch. He also wanted a rematch when he got when he got whooped by the hand picked Nate Diaz. Remember at the time they were looking for someone "easy" and who easier than a guy who's been parting for a few weeks on a boat in Cabos. The fact that Nate won, giving everyone the rematch was a huge added bonus. It wasn't supposed to be like that!
Him wanting GSP is a bigger challenge one that Conor pretty much already talked himself out of.
Conor wants the money... That's it... It just happens to be in the rematch. Back of the line pal!
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 16, 2018 19:08:19 GMT -5
Khabib's reply to Conor's should be two words... Beg me!
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 16, 2018 19:14:06 GMT -5
Conor makes the money against anyone and Conor is the big deal. Doesn't matter what Khabib wants because Khabib has never done anything for the UFC or MMA. He's one of the greatest lightweights of all time, but that is NOT relevant for selling fights. I would love to see him fight Ferguson so I will hope it happens, but don't think it will.
Conor did get his rematch against Diaz - but you're making my point. And hand picked? LOL - come on but thanks for allowing to rekindle a history lesson which bobo will hate. Dos Anjos tucked tail and pulled out of the fight. Then Aldo, the biggest pussy in UFC history who claimed he would "fight Conor anywhere/anytime" also tucked tail and declined the fight. Then Frankie Edgar declined. So the 4th guy they asked took the fight. That's "hand picked"? A 145er striker coming up in weight to fight a Diaz was supposed to be "easy"? Conor signed to fight Dos Anjos and all the brazilian dick tucking in the world can't be blamed on the Irish guy trying to get fights.
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Post by johncfc on Oct 16, 2018 19:27:28 GMT -5
I don't think the UFC will play ball with Khabib. I think they will make sure the NSAC don't punish Khabib severely, and use it to say they have Khabib's back.
Khabib doesn't have the leverage Conor has. The UFC won't care if he sits out and will strip him if he doesn't defend.
I don't think they will force the Conor fight though. I think they will be happy for Khabib vs. Tony, but the $15 million talk is laughable.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 16, 2018 19:56:32 GMT -5
Tony Khabib is the fight to make! Fuck Conor wanting an immediate rematch, sometimes in life even all the money in the world can't get you what you want, another lesson Conor will learn at the hands of Khabib, he'll get it eventually. IMO at least let a little time from this post fight drama pass. They haven't even been punished yet. Realistically, let Khabib fight Tony... Let Conor fight Diaz... Then they rematch and enough time will pass from the suspensions and drama that they can use that to build up the rematch. Late next year at Cowboys Stadium.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 16, 2018 21:18:46 GMT -5
Conor makes the money against anyone and Conor is the big deal. Doesn't matter what Khabib wants because Khabib has never done anything for the UFC or MMA. He's one of the greatest lightweights of all time, but that is NOT relevant for selling fights. I would love to see him fight Ferguson so I will hope it happens, but don't think it will. Conor did get his rematch against Diaz - but you're making my point. And hand picked? LOL - come on but thanks for allowing to rekindle a history lesson which bobo will hate. Dos Anjos tucked tail and pulled out of the fight. Then Aldo, the biggest pussy in UFC history who claimed he would "fight Conor anywhere/anytime" also tucked tail and declined the fight. Then Frankie Edgar declined. So the 4th guy they asked took the fight. That's "hand picked"? A 145er striker coming up in weight to fight a Diaz was supposed to be "easy"? Conor signed to fight Dos Anjos and all the brazilian dick tucking in the world can't be blamed on the Irish guy trying to get fights. You do have a rather good memory. I had completely forgot about Frankie. Still don't recall all the details on why Frankie didn't take it... On Aldo, yeah, I remember him saying anytime anyplace... Then turned it down. RDA did break his foot, he wasn't ducking Conor. No one ducks Conor, it's a hell of a payday... Well, Aldo...
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Post by daywork on Oct 16, 2018 21:24:26 GMT -5
Conor makes the money against anyone and Conor is the big deal. Doesn't matter what Khabib wants because Khabib has never done anything for the UFC or MMA. He's one of the greatest lightweights of all time, but that is NOT relevant for selling fights. I would love to see him fight Ferguson so I will hope it happens, but don't think it will. Conor did get his rematch against Diaz - but you're making my point. And hand picked? LOL - come on but thanks for allowing to rekindle a history lesson which bobo will hate. Dos Anjos tucked tail and pulled out of the fight. Then Aldo, the biggest pussy in UFC history who claimed he would "fight Conor anywhere/anytime" also tucked tail and declined the fight. Then Frankie Edgar declined. So the 4th guy they asked took the fight. That's "hand picked"? A 145er striker coming up in weight to fight a Diaz was supposed to be "easy"? Conor signed to fight Dos Anjos and all the brazilian dick tucking in the world can't be blamed on the Irish guy trying to get fights. Nate was suppose to be the easy fight. But you are right, it doesn't matter how good someone is. If they don't sell they aren't relevant in the UFCE ( E is for entertainment LOL) So you agree its a bitch move to call someone out, say you will fight them anywhere anytime even in the parking lot for free? You know where I'm going with this, right? haha
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 16, 2018 21:38:40 GMT -5
Conor makes the money against anyone and Conor is the big deal. Doesn't matter what Khabib wants because Khabib has never done anything for the UFC or MMA. He's one of the greatest lightweights of all time, but that is NOT relevant for selling fights. I would love to see him fight Ferguson so I will hope it happens, but don't think it will. Conor did get his rematch against Diaz - but you're making my point. And hand picked? LOL - come on but thanks for allowing to rekindle a history lesson which bobo will hate. Dos Anjos tucked tail and pulled out of the fight. Then Aldo, the biggest pussy in UFC history who claimed he would "fight Conor anywhere/anytime" also tucked tail and declined the fight. Then Frankie Edgar declined. So the 4th guy they asked took the fight. That's "hand picked"? A 145er striker coming up in weight to fight a Diaz was supposed to be "easy"? Conor signed to fight Dos Anjos and all the brazilian dick tucking in the world can't be blamed on the Irish guy trying to get fights. Nate was suppose to be the easy fight. But you are right, it doesn't matter how good someone is. If they don't sell they aren't relevant in the UFCE ( E is for entertainment LOL) So you agree its a bitch move to call someone out, say you will fight them anywhere anytime even in the parking lot for free? You know where I'm going with this, right? haha I actually don't know what or who you are talking about... But who ever it is, these are professionals, all talk about fighting outside the octagon is that, just talk.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Oct 16, 2018 21:48:48 GMT -5
Tony Khabib is the fight to make! Fuck Conor wanting an immediate rematch, sometimes in life even all the money in the world can't get you what you want, another lesson Conor will learn at the hands of Khabib, he'll get it eventually. IMO at least let a little time from this post fight drama pass. They haven't even been punished yet. Realistically, let Khabib fight Tony... Let Conor fight Diaz... Then they rematch and enough time will pass from the suspensions and drama that they can use that to build up the rematch. Late next year at Cowboys Stadium. The problem is the "casual public" has already started a slow turn on McGregor. He needs to win a fight because right now he's got no belt and he's 3-2 in his last 5 MMA fights. He gets right back in with Khabib and gets mauled again, and it's a tough sell to get huge numbers with him again.
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Post by johncfc on Oct 16, 2018 21:52:59 GMT -5
Nate was suppose to be the easy fight. But you are right, it doesn't matter how good someone is. If they don't sell they aren't relevant in the UFCE ( E is for entertainment LOL) So you agree its a bitch move to call someone out, say you will fight them anywhere anytime even in the parking lot for free? You know where I'm going with this, right? haha I actually don't know what or who you are talking about... But who ever it is, these are professionals, all talk about fighting outside the octagon is that, just talk. Aldo blew it. He called out Conor and when he had his chance he shat it. Real talk: Conor was in Aldo's head. Even more than ROV was in D-Sub's head (taking it way back!). Aldo can say all he wants about a camp, but truthfully he wasn't mentally ready to face Conor again. He was, and still is, pretty fragile after the Conor loss. Some guys can bounce back after a tough loss and other guys are never the same.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 16, 2018 22:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 16, 2018 22:14:53 GMT -5
I'm like Daywork... I don't remember...
I do remember they thought Diaz would be an easy fight... Boy they were wrong... I wasn't surprised though motherfuckers!
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Post by daywork on Oct 16, 2018 22:53:28 GMT -5
Nate was suppose to be the easy fight. But you are right, it doesn't matter how good someone is. If they don't sell they aren't relevant in the UFCE ( E is for entertainment LOL) So you agree its a bitch move to call someone out, say you will fight them anywhere anytime even in the parking lot for free? You know where I'm going with this, right? haha I actually don't know what or who you are talking about... But who ever it is, these are professionals, all talk about fighting outside the octagon is that, just talk. LOL It was just a bad dig at Rhonda. She called out Cyborg a few years ago. Saying she wanted to fight her anywhere anytime even in the parking lot. Then when she had her chance Rhonda made 101 reasons why she wouldn't fight her.
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Post by daywork on Oct 16, 2018 22:58:37 GMT -5
Tony Khabib is the fight to make! Fuck Conor wanting an immediate rematch, sometimes in life even all the money in the world can't get you what you want, another lesson Conor will learn at the hands of Khabib, he'll get it eventually. IMO at least let a little time from this post fight drama pass. They haven't even been punished yet. Realistically, let Khabib fight Tony... Let Conor fight Diaz... Then they rematch and enough time will pass from the suspensions and drama that they can use that to build up the rematch. Late next year at Cowboys Stadium. The problem is the "casual public" has already started a slow turn on McGregor. He needs to win a fight because right now he's got no belt and he's 3-2 in his last 5 MMA fights. He gets right back in with Khabib and gets mauled again, and it's a tough sell to get huge numbers with him again. I think this is true. He really needs a win. But it still kind of needs to be a name. Someone who is fun to watch but won't present to much of a problem for Conor. Someone who is a bit slow and eats alot of shots so Conor will look good. Oh shit. Thats Nate LOL Nah, can't do that one again. Maybe Justin Gaethje. Justin has been in some very fun fights to watch. He has taken a beating, give the man a payday.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 16, 2018 23:16:00 GMT -5
Conor makes the money against anyone and Conor is the big deal. Doesn't matter what Khabib wants because Khabib has never done anything for the UFC or MMA. He's one of the greatest lightweights of all time, but that is NOT relevant for selling fights. I would love to see him fight Ferguson so I will hope it happens, but don't think it will. Conor did get his rematch against Diaz - but you're making my point. And hand picked? LOL - come on but thanks for allowing to rekindle a history lesson which bobo will hate. Dos Anjos tucked tail and pulled out of the fight. Then Aldo, the biggest pussy in UFC history who claimed he would "fight Conor anywhere/anytime" also tucked tail and declined the fight. Then Frankie Edgar declined. So the 4th guy they asked took the fight. That's "hand picked"? A 145er striker coming up in weight to fight a Diaz was supposed to be "easy"? Conor signed to fight Dos Anjos and all the brazilian dick tucking in the world can't be blamed on the Irish guy trying to get fights. Nate was suppose to be the easy fight. But you are right, it doesn't matter how good someone is. If they don't sell they aren't relevant in the UFCE ( E is for entertainment LOL) So you agree its a bitch move to call someone out, say you will fight them anywhere anytime even in the parking lot for free? You know where I'm going with this, right? haha I was duped back in the day believing Ronda had a chance against Cyborg, but Cyborg couldn't make weight. Cyborg would have whooped her! You were always right about that. I wasn't sure Ronda could have beat her but didn't think a giant Cyborg was right to always call out Ronda when Cybord DID piss hot. Calling a cheater a cheater isn't wrong, lol.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 16, 2018 23:22:46 GMT -5
I'm like Daywork... I don't remember... I do remember they thought Diaz would be an easy fight... Boy they were wrong... I wasn't surprised though motherfuckers! Conor was a big favorite but I remember most of us thought it was tough. Obviously his stock was at an all time high after smoking punk Aldo, so that did induce some unrealistic expectations about his chances.
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 17, 2018 10:18:09 GMT -5
Conor could be on his way to being the next Ronda. While you say Conor is always looking to challenge himself, I disagree, why he never defended either of his titles and went on to box Floyd, not for a challange anyone with a mind knew he'd never win. If he really wanted to challange himself, he'd at least defend one of his titles, he only cared about the next money fight, it's not cause it was a huge challange cause it was the big money fight. Khabib already defended his title once and is looking to defend it against the next time in line, something Conor never did. Glad he's been exposed for having no cardio, no ground game and no heart! Conor is not only a punk he's a clown!
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Post by boboplata on Oct 17, 2018 11:03:07 GMT -5
Conor could be on his way to being the next Ronda. While you say Conor is always looking to challenge himself, I disagree, why he never defended either of his titles and went on to box Floyd, not for a challange anyone with a mind knew he'd never win. If he really wanted to challange himself, he'd at least defend one of his titles, he only cared about the next money fight, it's not cause it was a huge challange cause it was the big money fight. Khabib already defended his title once and is looking to defend it against the next time in line, something Conor never did. Glad he's been exposed for having no cardio, no ground game and no heart! Conor is not only a punk he's a clown! Thank you for pointing this out. FW run? Legit. Title defense? Bitch level. Understandable since he's into unwarranted LW title shots. I believe him and irish edmund kavanagh haven't talked yet after the fight. Thank Allah for the muslim scum that showed that irish scum that words have weight. I wanna see Conor try to "market" their rematch if he's really serious about it. Probably just trying to save face and his brand.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Oct 17, 2018 11:45:26 GMT -5
ocmmafan and johncfc are owning you all with simple business logic!
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Post by boboplata on Oct 17, 2018 11:46:50 GMT -5
ocmmafan and johncfc are owning you all with simple business logic! I'm so glad people grasping at earnings as an argument are getting some percentage from it..?
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Post by HumanAgent on Oct 17, 2018 12:01:58 GMT -5
ocmmafan and johncfc are owning you all with simple business logic! I'm so glad people grasping at earnings as an argument are getting some percentage from it..? If all they cared about was business logic, they would have never watched it from the get go... How many years were they in the red? The UFC is not going to go out of business if Conor doesn't get his immediate rematch... His next fight will still do big numbers. Khabib is the the champ, the king, undisputed, undefeated Muslim scum! That's what bothers them! From a business perspective, you have to let this shit cool off before you start promoting the drama you just looked down upon. And still!!!!
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Oct 17, 2018 12:07:57 GMT -5
I'm so glad people grasping at earnings as an argument are getting some percentage from it..? If all they cared about was business logic, they would have never watched it from the get go... How many years were they in the red? The UFC is not going to go out of business if Conor doesn't get his immediate rematch... His next fight will still do big numbers. Khabib is the the champ, the king, undisputed, undefeated Muslim scum! That's what bothers them! From a business perspective, you have to let this shit cool off before you start promoting the drama you just looked down upon. And still!!!! BULLSHIT! You really think they make a buisness decision by saying "well we wont go out of business if we dont do it..." This new UFC business model makes decisions based on "How can we make the most amount of money?" Most amount of money = Conor vs Khabib, then Conor vs anyone. That business model doesnt work if it's Khabib vs anyone but Conor.
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