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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:03:29 GMT -5
Lets get past whether the place is a shit hole or not? Why? Is it a shithole? If yes, then Trump didn't say anything that wasn't true. He was just stating a fact. Why is that so hard to deal with? I was speaking with a employee about Trumps comments the other day. My employee was saying it was racist. So I said, ok you are going to rent your house out. One family is section 8 and one family makes $100k a year. Who are you going to rent it to? He said in about a second he would take the people making $100k a year. I then asked him why is was ok for him to want to take the rich people but its not ok for our President to want to take the rich people (Norwegians). Trump didn't say he wouldn't take them, did he? He just said he would rather take the rich people from Norway. Oh and Africa calling Trump a racist.. WTF is that, wasn't it in 2011 when the South African President was singing "kill the boar's" translation Kill the white farmers.. I'm rooting for Stipe. It's a shithole actually almost entirely because of past oppression from the U.S., England and France, in regards to Haiti at least, and Africa also because of a history of oppression from many countries, probably more the U.K. than America, but I'm sure we played a roll...obviously we did. So we caused a large amount of the "shittiness" there and we then tell them they aren't welcome here, and you keep focussing on whether or not "the place is a shithole" more than the more important point about WHY he said it, because he doesn't want those people here. I don't agree with your analogy because America has room for a lot more than "one" metaphorical family. This isn't an "either/or" in regards to people, we can take those from both Norway AND Africa and Haiti. And he WAS saying he didn't want them, yes. It was something which these people would all clearly find highly offensive. And just because there are bad presidents in African countries doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to be better and more welcoming than them. You CANNOT blame Ngannou for feeling the way he feels, wanting to be made to feel welcome in this country after escaping hard ship. AT LEAST admit if you were from one of those countries trying to immigrate here you'd be offended...wouldn't you??
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 20, 2018 18:06:12 GMT -5
First off, if it’s not a constitutional right then the elected president has a lot of discretion. Secondly, I voted for Trump because he wasn’t a fake ass career politician who changes colors like a chameleon. Trump is a shrewd business man so he will speak his mind even when it’s not the wisest move. I’d rather have someone who says what he thinks and not just what you want to hear. I’ll gladly accept it as long as the economy keeps growing. Unemployment at a 17 year low > hurt feelings at an all time high Well I actually think that unemployment being at a low has to do with changes Obama made while in office. But regardless, you can agree with 99% of things a guy like Trump says and disagree with this one thing can't you? Why do people think they can't own up to the fact that this was a fucked up thing for Trump to say and STILL support him? You can do that can't you? And it's not just "hurt feelings" if he acts on it and tries to cut off aid to these countries. People's lives could really be messed up cause of it. There's still no reason you can't love Trump in most ways and not agree that this was wrong for him to say, and it's not that it wasn't "the wisest move" for him to say it, it's simply not a value that America is supposed to have, that we are not compassionate about those coming from difficult circumstances in other countries. We are supposed to be better than that. The world doesn’t owe you, me, or anyone a fucking thing. It’s sad that stupid people will get behind a socialist hack like Sanders who convinces them that they deserve a piece of someone else’s success. The problem today is that we have too many people setting in the wagon and not enough pulling it. I know you are dug in like a tick to the liberal agenda, I don’t expect to change your mind but you damn sure won’t change mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:13:12 GMT -5
Well I actually think that unemployment being at a low has to do with changes Obama made while in office. But regardless, you can agree with 99% of things a guy like Trump says and disagree with this one thing can't you? Why do people think they can't own up to the fact that this was a fucked up thing for Trump to say and STILL support him? You can do that can't you? And it's not just "hurt feelings" if he acts on it and tries to cut off aid to these countries. People's lives could really be messed up cause of it. There's still no reason you can't love Trump in most ways and not agree that this was wrong for him to say, and it's not that it wasn't "the wisest move" for him to say it, it's simply not a value that America is supposed to have, that we are not compassionate about those coming from difficult circumstances in other countries. We are supposed to be better than that. The world doesn’t owe you, me, or anyone a fucking thing. It’s sad that stupid people will get behind a socialist hack like Sanders who convinces them that they deserve a piece of someone else’s success. The problem today is that we have too many people setting in the wagon and not enough pulling it. I know you are dug in like a tick to the liberal agenda, I don’t expect to change your mind but you damn sure won’t change mind. I don't care if I can't change your mind, and you probably won't change mine either. I'm not so dug in that I won't change my mind though on certain topics IF someone can present a good reason, but no one has been able to, and this seems like very clearly an immoral thing Trump said which is not a value America is supposed to have. Whether or not "anyone owes" anyone anything is not the point. I see the point here as being, what the president of the most powerful country can do if he cares enough about people coming from hard circumstances, not what he has to do. He can and IMO should represent America as a country that can be a beacon of hope to those having trouble around the world. I think Trump needs to think hard about the image he portrays to the rest of the world and that he doesn't. His comments make us sound like we don't give a shit about the rest of the world and that's not good IMO. So I simply cannot see how what he said was moral and I think we need to be better than that. You still haven't answered whether or not you'd be offended and feel unwelcome if you were from one of those countries, and I really think that you would, and that means fewer and fewer people from abroad will look to America as a place they can come to to escape hard ship which I don't think is good.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 18:19:33 GMT -5
Would I be offended if some President called the US a shithole, or if they sang Kill the white people. Sure I would. I also wouldn't want to go there.
I don't think we have all that much room left. There is other countries that has alot more room then we do. Why don't they try and go there? Why does it have to be the USA? Why can't they turn their own countries around for the better?
I don't know how we made them a shithole. I guess I can go look it up.
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 20, 2018 18:23:06 GMT -5
The world doesn’t owe you, me, or anyone a fucking thing. It’s sad that stupid people will get behind a socialist hack like Sanders who convinces them that they deserve a piece of someone else’s success. The problem today is that we have too many people setting in the wagon and not enough pulling it. I know you are dug in like a tick to the liberal agenda, I don’t expect to change your mind but you damn sure won’t change mind. I don't care if I can't change your mind, and you probably won't change mine either. I'm not so dug in that I won't change my mind though on certain topics IF someone can present a good reason, but no one has been able to, and this seems like very clearly an immoral thing Trump said which is not a value America is supposed to have. Whether or not "anyone owes" anyone anything is not the point. I see the point here as being, what the president of the most powerful country can do if he cares enough about people coming from hard circumstances, not what he has to do. He can and IMO should represent America as a country that can be a beacon of hope to those having trouble around the world. I think Trump needs to think hard about the image he portrays to the rest of the world and that he doesn't. His comments make us sound like we don't give a shit about the rest of the world and that's not good IMO. So I simply cannot see how what he said was moral and I think we need to be better than that. You still haven't answered whether or not you'd be offended and feel unwelcome if you were from one of those countries, and I really think that you would, and that means fewer and fewer people from abroad will look to America as a place they can come to to escape hard ship which I don't think is good. I would probably agree with him if it was true and just hope that they don’t quit throwing free aid to me. Yeah I’d prob be so offended that I’d go to Canada instead.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 18:28:43 GMT -5
Canada wouldn't take you if you weren't educated and had a skill. They take less people then we do, But we are the racists LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:30:57 GMT -5
I don't care if I can't change your mind, and you probably won't change mine either. I'm not so dug in that I won't change my mind though on certain topics IF someone can present a good reason, but no one has been able to, and this seems like very clearly an immoral thing Trump said which is not a value America is supposed to have. Whether or not "anyone owes" anyone anything is not the point. I see the point here as being, what the president of the most powerful country can do if he cares enough about people coming from hard circumstances, not what he has to do. He can and IMO should represent America as a country that can be a beacon of hope to those having trouble around the world. I think Trump needs to think hard about the image he portrays to the rest of the world and that he doesn't. His comments make us sound like we don't give a shit about the rest of the world and that's not good IMO. So I simply cannot see how what he said was moral and I think we need to be better than that. You still haven't answered whether or not you'd be offended and feel unwelcome if you were from one of those countries, and I really think that you would, and that means fewer and fewer people from abroad will look to America as a place they can come to to escape hard ship which I don't think is good. I would probably agree with him if it was true and just hope that they don’t quit throwing free aid to me. Yeah I’d prob be so offended that I’d go to Canada instead. Ok so you basically agree with what I'm saying. And after all of these people calling me idiots and criticizing me, and all of these people wanting Ngannou to get killed cause he feels offended by having the president basically telling him to "go the fuck home" in so many words hahaha. I certainly see where Ngannou is coming from, he sounds intelligent and hard working, and he is exciting and hits like a truck so I am a fan, but I like Stipe also so it's not like I'm not a fan of his also. I'm sure Trump is doing SOME good things (not sure what they are), and I have friends who are Trump supporters, but no president is going to do 100% great things at all times and not make SOME mistakes. I just don't get why some of you guys can't be like "yeah, I like Trump for lots of reasons, but on this one thing he said something which was kind of uncool".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:31:25 GMT -5
Canada wouldn't take you if you weren't educated and had a skill. They take less people then we do, But we are the racists LOL They could be racists too lol. I don't really know about their policies.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 18:33:35 GMT -5
I would love to hang out with Toehold some day. Just bullshitting about stuff like this. He holds a different opinion then I do, but he is willing to talk about it. I don't think he is the type to just get all pissy and storm off.
I just hate that I'm such a bad writer that I can't have better conversations with him on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:35:39 GMT -5
I would love to hang out with Toehold some day. Just bullshitting about stuff like this. He holds a different opinion then I do, but he is willing to talk about it. I don't think he is the type to just get all pissy and storm off. I just hate that I'm such a bad writer that I can't have better conversations with him on here. Thanks dude. You seem like a good guy too. Truth is I don't talk about this stuff in person, and I usually don't online. I'm better at writing than talking so I don't hold the best convos in person all the time, and it's easier to disagree with people online without them getting overly pissed (or without it mattering if they do). If you argue online you punch the keyboard, but in real life if you are argue sometimes people punch you lol.
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Post by locogato11283 on Jan 20, 2018 18:38:16 GMT -5
Canada wouldn't take you if you weren't educated and had a skill. They take less people then we do, But we are the racists LOL Exactly. It’s all bullshit.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 18:40:00 GMT -5
I'm the oposite, I'm a better talker. I like to read the body language and see if people are trying to hold back an eye roll. I can't debate stuff like this much with people I know, because they feel the same way I do.
You train man, I would know better then to try and swing on you.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 18:49:24 GMT -5
Lets try another analogy. You own a company and have over 100 employees. You have a position available. One applicant has college degree (in some other field then you are hiring for). The 2nd applicant has a high school deploma. The 3rd has a 4th grade education.
Who do you hire?
Is that better? LOL
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 20, 2018 18:52:54 GMT -5
Lets try another analogy. You own a company and have over 100 employees. You have a position available. One applicant has college degree (in some other field then you are hiring for). The 2nd applicant has a high school deploma. The 3rd has a 4th grade education. Who do you hire? Is that better? LOL Are you more comfortable with Trump in the pilot seat as a business owner as opposed to a Sanders?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:53:51 GMT -5
I'm the oposite, I'm a better talker. I like to read the body language and see if people are trying to hold back an eye roll. I can't debate stuff like this much with people I know, because they feel the same way I do. You train man, I would know better then to try and swing on you. Well I don't get in physical fights, I mean I had one fight in highschool. I just don't argue or debate with people in person cause I don't like to.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 18:56:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I would rather have Trump then Sanders. My accountant just called me yesterday. Told me there was some good changes for me. Well except for the entertainment (buying lunch and such) and the per diem. I won't be able to write off as much with those 2 things. I'll find out more when I meet with the accountant next week.
I just wish Trump would stop the twitter bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 18:56:37 GMT -5
Lets try another analogy. You own a company and have over 100 employees. You have a position available. One applicant has college degree (in some other field then you are hiring for). The 2nd applicant has a high school deploma. The 3rd has a 4th grade education. Who do you hire? Is that better? LOL Well wanting to hire more credible people makes sense, but it's not a choice between people from Haiti and Africa or Norway, we can let in both. Just criticizing an entire country of people and saying you don't want them here because they are impoverished and have a lot disease and all that just seems wrong to me. Also, Haiti was hit by a massive quake years ago so that's just one more reason it's kind of a messed up place.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 19:05:00 GMT -5
Hey now, I never said what race those applicants were or where they were from. That doesn't matter, you want the better people period.
Do you really want to bring in a lot of people with diseases? That doesn't seem right either, why would you want to bring them here and get us sick?
Didn't we send over boatloads of money and aid after the quake?
Isn't Haiti and many parts of Africa messed up because of the corruption in the government? Their own people are screwing them. Not us.
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 20, 2018 19:17:37 GMT -5
Lets try another analogy. You own a company and have over 100 employees. You have a position available. One applicant has college degree (in some other field then you are hiring for). The 2nd applicant has a high school deploma. The 3rd has a 4th grade education. Who do you hire? Is that better? LOL Well wanting to hire more credible people makes sense, but it's not a choice between people from Haiti and Africa or Norway, we can let in both. Just criticizing an entire country of people and saying you don't want them here because they are impoverished and have a lot disease and all that just seems wrong to me. Also, Haiti was hit by a massive quake years ago so that's just one more reason it's kind of a messed up place. What sanctions did Trump impose to keep Haiti from coming to America?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:26:17 GMT -5
Well wanting to hire more credible people makes sense, but it's not a choice between people from Haiti and Africa or Norway, we can let in both. Just criticizing an entire country of people and saying you don't want them here because they are impoverished and have a lot disease and all that just seems wrong to me. Also, Haiti was hit by a massive quake years ago so that's just one more reason it's kind of a messed up place. What sanctions did Trump impose to keep Haiti from coming to America? I didn't say he imposed sanctions, the discussion has to do with whether or not it's appropriate for him to say he doesn't want them here and criticize millions of people because they are from countries that have endured hardship and it's just not IMO representative of what America should be representative of or our values.
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 20, 2018 19:29:50 GMT -5
What sanctions did Trump impose to keep Haiti from coming to America? I didn't say he imposed sanctions, the discussion has to do with whether or not it's appropriate for him to say he doesn't want them here and criticize millions of people because they are from countries that have endured hardship and it's just not IMO representative of what America should be representative of or our values. So it’s I’m offended? That hurts my feelings kind of stuff? Well laddyfuckingdah. I guess you are more comfortable with the career “used car salesmen” politician?
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 19:36:45 GMT -5
What sanctions did Trump impose to keep Haiti from coming to America? I didn't say he imposed sanctions, the discussion has to do with whether or not it's appropriate for him to say he doesn't want them here and criticize millions of people because they are from countries that have endured hardship and it's just not IMO representative of what America should be representative of or our values. I think its a tricky thing. Yes, its not right for him to sterotype all of those people. I'm sure many are very good people and I'm sure there are many bad people. It would also have been wrong for him to say we would take only the best they have. So I guess the only thing he could've said was he would take them all or none of them. He chose none. Ok, well he could've just kept his mouth shut LOL. American values. They are set very high aren't they? We only want the best of everything, right? That includes people we take in too. I would think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:37:49 GMT -5
Hey now, I never said what race those applicants were or where they were from. That doesn't matter, you want the better people period. Do you really want to bring in a lot of people with diseases? That doesn't seem right either, why would you want to bring them here and get us sick? Didn't we send over boatloads of money and aid after the quake? Isn't Haiti and many parts of Africa messed up because of the corruption in the government? Their own people are screwing them. Not us. Well I don't think you'd want to accept the specific people who have infectious diseases that could spread, no, but who knows how many of them are sick? I doubt most of them are. I just don't think it's a choice between letting in people from one country vs another, we can let in anyone who goes through the proper channels to become a legal immigrant (I don't know what they all are). Also, look at these stats from the Washington Post about how a higher % of Africans have a college degree vs Americans and a higher median house hold income, so this shoes that actually a lot of people from Africa are well educated and could probably do well in America. "43% of immigrants from “shithole” African countries have a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 33% of the overall American population. “Nigerian-Americans, for instance, have a median household income well above the American average.”https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s- … 5:46 PM - Jan 11, 2018"
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 20, 2018 19:37:55 GMT -5
I’m being dead serious. The liberals on my FB, while not many are almost all bums. It’s staggering how few are productive members of society.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 19:54:00 GMT -5
Hey now, I never said what race those applicants were or where they were from. That doesn't matter, you want the better people period. Do you really want to bring in a lot of people with diseases? That doesn't seem right either, why would you want to bring them here and get us sick? Didn't we send over boatloads of money and aid after the quake? Isn't Haiti and many parts of Africa messed up because of the corruption in the government? Their own people are screwing them. Not us. Well I don't think you'd want to accept the specific people who have infectious diseases that could spread, no, but who knows how many of them are sick? I doubt most of them are. I just don't think it's a choice between letting in people from one country vs another, we can let in anyone who goes through the proper channels to become a legal immigrant (I don't know what they all are). Also, look at these stats from the Washington Post about how a higher % of Africans have a college degree vs Americans and a higher median house hold income, so this shoes that actually a lot of people from Africa are well educated and could probably do well in America. "43% of immigrants from “shithole” African countries have a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 33% of the overall American population. “Nigerian-Americans, for instance, have a median household income well above the American average.”https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s- … 5:46 PM - Jan 11, 2018" Oh, I don't have a problem with anyone who comes here through the proper channels. I don't think anyone does. Well, I guess there are some people that just don't want anyone in. But thats a different subject. But if you had a choice, you would always take what looks better on paper to you. Right? I "think" Trump wants what he thinks is "best" for America. I just don't see how that is a bad thing. So if they are making more then us and have better education, Why are they trying to come here? They seem to have it good where they are. They want to leave because its a "shithole" LOL Its so bad that they don't even want to be there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:55:01 GMT -5
I didn't say he imposed sanctions, the discussion has to do with whether or not it's appropriate for him to say he doesn't want them here and criticize millions of people because they are from countries that have endured hardship and it's just not IMO representative of what America should be representative of or our values. So it’s I’m offended? That hurts my feelings kind of stuff? Well laddyfuckingdah. I guess you are more comfortable with the career “used car salesmen” politician? No, I'm more comfortable with politicians that would care about promoting America as a place that can be a "beacon of hope" for people who are looking to escape harsh living conditions in other countries. And again, it becomes more than just "hurt feelings" when we are talking about how America is represented to MILLIONS of people. If they were having this conversation at all I have to assume there would have been SOME effect on immigrants that they were talking about or they wouldn't have had it at all. They SEEMED to have been batting ideas around about who we should and shouldn't favor coming into this country and Trump clearly said he's not interested in helping people coming these countries. It's more of the principle of the matter and how we represent ourselves to the world. You already agreed with me that you'd be offended if you were Ngannou. And the thing is, the president IMO should be an example and role model for people of how EVERYONE should act, and representative of how Americans treat foreigners. The way I think, is that Trump is basically saying that this is a fine attitude for all Americans to have about immigrants, and if it's just ONE person that doesn't become an issue, but if a large percentage of Americans think and act as if foreigners don't have a right to come into this country then how does that end up feeling when you are an immigrant here?? I mean I don't want to talk much more about this and this is getting to be a debate I didn't want to continue for days and shit, but consider this: I teach English to foreigners and the other day I was helping a 60 year old Hatian women with her English. If every American acted and spoke towards her the way Trump is speaking towards Hatians and Africans, she would not feel welcome here. If I had secretly had the attitude that I resented Haitians being in my country (as Trump seems to) while teaching her, she'd probably be able to pick up on it and feel uncomfortable by how I acted towards her, and in fact, she probably wouldn't be welcome in our school at all. It's about making immigrants who DO go through the legal processes feel welcome in this country. And as I was teaching her I was wondering if she'd heard Trump's comments and whether or not it bothered her, and whether or not people in America have made her feel unwelcome while she's been here and if she's been treated badly and i was hoping she hadn't been. I want to think that your average American would speak better about her and people from her country than the president, but if that's the example we set then others will think that's just fine. She might actually believe now that your average American thinks she should go the fuck home because she's from a country with bad conditions, and I'm hoping she doesn't feel unwelcome here. THAT is the context we are talking about, and the larger implication of what Trump said, rather than just "hurt feelings".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 19:58:34 GMT -5
I’m being dead serious. The liberals on my FB, while not many are almost all bums. It’s staggering how few are productive members of society. That's not necessarily representative of how most liberals are. I know tons of liberals who are productive and I know some repubs who are not. Anyways, that doesn't matter. I'm not into putting people in groups, and that's not what Ngannou was talking about. Working with immigrants almost every person who teaches foreign languages to immigrants who I have met is a liberal, and I'd tend to think that the majority of people who support Trump on this statement wouldn't be willing to help people like the old Hatian women I was teaching the other day cause they wouldn't want her here. I was "being productive" teaching her English, but the majority of Trump supporters would probably not have given her the time of day. Anyway, I think we have talked about this enough, and you agreed you'd be offended if you were Ngannou. This whole thing was about who HE AND PEOPLE FROM THOSE COUNTRIES FEEL, not anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:01:02 GMT -5
I didn't say he imposed sanctions, the discussion has to do with whether or not it's appropriate for him to say he doesn't want them here and criticize millions of people because they are from countries that have endured hardship and it's just not IMO representative of what America should be representative of or our values. I think its a tricky thing. Yes, its not right for him to sterotype all of those people. I'm sure many are very good people and I'm sure there are many bad people. It would also have been wrong for him to say we would take only the best they have. So I guess the only thing he could've said was he would take them all or none of them. He chose none. Ok, well he could've just kept his mouth shut LOL. American values. They are set very high aren't they? We only want the best of everything, right? That includes people we take in too. I would think. Yeah it is tricky. I just think you'd probably want to go on a case by case basis. A shitty person is shitty no matter where they come from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:04:34 GMT -5
Well I don't think you'd want to accept the specific people who have infectious diseases that could spread, no, but who knows how many of them are sick? I doubt most of them are. I just don't think it's a choice between letting in people from one country vs another, we can let in anyone who goes through the proper channels to become a legal immigrant (I don't know what they all are). Also, look at these stats from the Washington Post about how a higher % of Africans have a college degree vs Americans and a higher median house hold income, so this shoes that actually a lot of people from Africa are well educated and could probably do well in America. "43% of immigrants from “shithole” African countries have a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 33% of the overall American population. “Nigerian-Americans, for instance, have a median household income well above the American average.”https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s- … 5:46 PM - Jan 11, 2018" Oh, I don't have a problem with anyone who comes here through the proper channels. I don't think anyone does. Well, I guess there are some people that just don't want anyone in. But thats a different subject. But if you had a choice, you would always take what looks better on paper to you. Right? I "think" Trump wants what he thinks is "best" for America. I just don't see how that is a bad thing. So if they are making more then us and have better education, Why are they trying to come here? They seem to have it good where they are. They want to leave because its a "shithole" LOL Its so bad that they don't even want to be there. Obviously I don't know which people want to come and which don't, but it just proves they aren't all shitty people. Maybe there aren't enough jobs in some of those countries so they come here? I don't know. Ngannou is here to fight in the UFC though and he doesn't like those comments. Yeah, I'd want the best people, but I just wouldn't make a blanket statement about how we don't want people from entire countries, and I mean Africa is MASSIVE so there's so many different types of people from there. Anyway, I'm getting kind of tired of this now lol. I'm ready to watch the UFC.
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Post by daywork on Jan 20, 2018 20:09:16 GMT -5
I guess you can call me a Trump supporter. I wanted him to win over Hilary but I didn't vote. But I would've treated that woman you were teaching with respect. I treat everyone with respect until they prove they don't deserve respect. But that's just me trying to be a decent person.
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