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Post by boboplata on Aug 23, 2017 8:45:09 GMT -5
Just saw this comment on a story about Jones . . . if true, fucking WOW: "Turinabol has a halflife of 8 hours. Getting popped for that is literally stupid. That means he took steroids THAT DAY or the night before." Hard to believe that he would have roided up like that... ...except if it's something that's supposed to be gone in 1 day, but then you're cutting weight, it may hang out in your dehydrated system a bit. Jones sucks. He is a HW who roids and cokes down to 205 so he can be like a 10th grader beating up 7th graders lmao
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Aug 23, 2017 9:32:03 GMT -5
Great... now we're going to be stuck watching DC for a few more years. THANKS A LOT JON... ASSHOLE.
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Post by mmaphreak on Aug 23, 2017 10:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Aug 23, 2017 10:30:55 GMT -5
I seem to remember an article and some pictures that showed Jones bulking up and adding muscle mass during his last coke bust suspension...
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Post by slaytan on Aug 23, 2017 11:57:35 GMT -5
Dam man and he really didn't need that shit to beat Cormier again. Maybe, maybe not. His brother being in the NFL means that Jones has always had sources for the best, most cutting edge roids available along with masking agents, etc. Maybe he's been roiding since he beat Stephan Boner
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Post by Premier on Aug 23, 2017 12:27:20 GMT -5
Dam man and he really didn't need that shit to beat Cormier again. Maybe, maybe not. His brother being in the NFL means that Jones has always had sources for the best, most cutting edge roids available along with masking agents, etc. Maybe he's been roiding since he beat Stephan Boner Roids or not, its just a bad style match-up for Cormier. This morning I was thinking that his brother was probably disappointed at him. Never thought about his brother being the supplier. But it makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 13:02:32 GMT -5
Bones has solidified the legacy of being the most insecure in his own talent fighter to ever compete.
There's something seriously wrong in that dude's brain.
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Post by clubman on Aug 23, 2017 13:54:41 GMT -5
they should erase all his fights and give the title back to Shogun and we can restart from there.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 23, 2017 15:02:02 GMT -5
Maybe, maybe not. His brother being in the NFL means that Jones has always had sources for the best, most cutting edge roids available along with masking agents, etc. Maybe he's been roiding since he beat Stephan Boner Roids or not, its just a bad style match-up for Cormier. This morning I was thinking that his brother was probably disappointed at him. Never thought about his brother being the supplier. But it makes sense. Daniel was fine for a while. Without roids, Jones may have not been able to train as hard and would have slowed a step by the time he landed that kick, and then not landed it. Jones should have gone NFL where testing hot for roids just carries a 4 game suspension and is barely mentioned
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Post by adamg01 on Aug 23, 2017 15:09:42 GMT -5
they should erase all his fights and give the title back to Shogun and we can restart from there. That's the smartest thing I've ever heard you say! SHOGUN!!!
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Post by clubman on Aug 23, 2017 20:40:41 GMT -5
lol
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Post by agrappleaday on Aug 23, 2017 22:16:55 GMT -5
Just saw this comment on a story about Jones . . . if true, fucking WOW: "Turinabol has a halflife of 8 hours. Getting popped for that is literally stupid. That means he took steroids THAT DAY or the night before." Half life, sure, but depending on how sensitive the tests are 8 or even 16 hours still wouldn't be enough.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 7:10:10 GMT -5
It would depend on how much you need in your system to get detected. After 24 hours you'd still have 12.5% left, and After 48 hours you should still have about 1.5% left in your system, give or take on the 8 hour half-life.
Sorry for the terrible nomenclature, I'm more of a numbers guy.
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Post by jamesod on Aug 24, 2017 10:59:33 GMT -5
It's not about detecting the drug in his system, though. As mmaphreak noted, they're now able to test for metabolites in his system caused by the drug, and they can do that for weeks or months after the drug was taken.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Aug 24, 2017 11:03:26 GMT -5
It's not about detecting the drug in his system, though. As mmaphreak noted, they're now able to test for metabolites in his system caused by the drug, and they can do that for weeks or months after the drug was taken. He has to know this, right? I just cant figure out how any of these guys think they're going to get away with using PEDs under USADA.
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Post by Premier on Aug 24, 2017 11:05:57 GMT -5
Imagine if this was the only time he was innocent.
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Post by jamesod on Aug 24, 2017 12:12:59 GMT -5
It's not about detecting the drug in his system, though. As mmaphreak noted, they're now able to test for metabolites in his system caused by the drug, and they can do that for weeks or months after the drug was taken. He has to know this, right? I just cant figure out how any of these guys think they're going to get away with using PEDs under USADA. I can't either. It's mind boggling that he'd risk his career over this. Makes me think he's been using PEDs his whole career. Nothing else to me could explain such a lack of confidence in his abilities that he'd use PEDs now and risk his status as GOAT.
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Post by peAk on Aug 24, 2017 12:15:03 GMT -5
He has to know this, right? I just cant figure out how any of these guys think they're going to get away with using PEDs under USADA. I can't either. It's mind boggling that he'd risk his career over this. Makes me think he's been using PEDs his whole career. Nothing else to me could explain such a lack of confidence in his abilities that he'd use PEDs now and risk his status as GOAT. This ^^^^^
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Post by jamesod on Aug 24, 2017 12:28:44 GMT -5
This sucks. I wasn't a fan, but Jon Jones is one of the few guys in the UFC that makes me want to buy a PPV.
Conor - likely gone Diaz bros - gone BJ Penn - gone or shell of his former self Paul Harris - gone Ronda - gone JBJ - likely gone.
Who is going to get me to buy a PPV now? Cowboy maybe. I'll probably pay for GSP's comeback fight. Besides that? Maybe a Cody/TJ rematch or maybe if Mighty Mouse faces Cody or TJ. Maybe Cyborg/Nunes.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Aug 24, 2017 12:42:42 GMT -5
This sucks. I wasn't a fan, but Jon Jones is one of the few guys in the UFC that makes me want to buy a PPV. Conor - likely gone Diaz bros - gone BJ Penn - gone or shell of his former self Paul Harris - goneRonda - gone JBJ - likely gone. Who is going to get me to buy a PPV now? Cowboy maybe. I'll probably pay for GSP's comeback fight. Besides that? Maybe a Cody/TJ rematch or maybe if Mighty Mouse faces Cody or TJ. Maybe Cyborg/Nunes. lol -He made you buy PPVs? And what about Anderson? No love for the Spider? But he's up there with BJ unfortunately.
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Post by jamesod on Aug 24, 2017 13:51:09 GMT -5
This sucks. I wasn't a fan, but Jon Jones is one of the few guys in the UFC that makes me want to buy a PPV. Conor - likely gone Diaz bros - gone BJ Penn - gone or shell of his former self Paul Harris - goneRonda - gone JBJ - likely gone. Who is going to get me to buy a PPV now? Cowboy maybe. I'll probably pay for GSP's comeback fight. Besides that? Maybe a Cody/TJ rematch or maybe if Mighty Mouse faces Cody or TJ. Maybe Cyborg/Nunes. lol -He made you buy PPVs? And what about Anderson? No love for the Spider? But he's up there with BJ unfortunately. Ha. I don't think I ever bought any PPV solely because of Paul Harris, but I don't think I ever missed a fight of his. How could you not be intrigued by that psycho? But yes - you identified the "one of these things is not like the others" on my list. I was wondering if anyone would notice that. Anderson should have been on my list in the same regard as BJ. He used to be a can't miss guy. Now I'm interested, but not enough to shell out $60.
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Post by peAk on Aug 24, 2017 14:50:04 GMT -5
lol -He made you buy PPVs? And what about Anderson? No love for the Spider? But he's up there with BJ unfortunately. Ha. I don't think I ever bought any PPV solely because of Paul Harris, but I don't think I ever missed a fight of his. How could you not be intrigued by that psycho? But yes - you identified the "one of these things is not like the others" on my list. I was wondering if anyone would notice that. Anderson should have been on my list in the same regard as BJ. He used to be a can't miss guy. Now I'm interested, but not enough to shell out $60. yup
same with me. Not too many "must buy" anymore. While JBJ was an amazing fighter, he wasn't "must buy" for me.
All the ones you mentioned, with Chuck & Anderson added, were my ones to always buy.
There is not one single fighter currently on the roster that I would solely pay for except Conor.
It hurts too much to watch Anderson or BJ compete anymore.
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Post by locogato11283 on Aug 24, 2017 16:55:46 GMT -5
I'm glad Bellator doesn't tolerate this nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 14:12:15 GMT -5
This article made me feel kind of bad. Turns out that the biggest reason DC threw that fit at John Mccarthy after the fight was stopped was because he was so concussed he thought the fight had never even STARTED in the first place. Getting hit hard in the head has to be like getting black out drunk in the sense that you just lose all memory of what happened. I wonder if DC is more or less pissed knowing Jones cheated. He seems not to know what to think now either. www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/daniel-cormier/big-john-mccarthy-dc-jon-jones-ufc-214-ko/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 14:14:56 GMT -5
And I know they'd never do this as punishment, but fuck it, you know what I'd like to see?
MASSIVE fine slapped on Jones, title taken and given to Cormier, told he's NEVER allowed to fight at LHW again even if he can make weight and not cheat or take roids, and then told if he wants to keep his contract with the UFC he has to move up to HW, never take another drug again or his contract will be taken away from him, and his warm up fight at HW is that monster Francis Ngannou.
If he gets past him, throw Overeem at him, and if he wins that then title shot vs Stipe.
That way he gets the proper trip out of the UFC, because he wouldn't get through those 3 at HW.
I want to see him lose, I don't want to see him retire an undefeated cheater.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 14:19:58 GMT -5
This sucks. I wasn't a fan, but Jon Jones is one of the few guys in the UFC that makes me want to buy a PPV. Conor - likely goneDiaz bros - gone BJ Penn - gone or shell of his former self Paul Harris - gone Ronda - gone JBJ - likely gone. Who is going to get me to buy a PPV now? Cowboy maybe. I'll probably pay for GSP's comeback fight. Besides that? Maybe a Cody/TJ rematch or maybe if Mighty Mouse faces Cody or TJ. Maybe Cyborg/Nunes. Why don't you think Conor will go back to fighting for the UFC? It's not like he's going to stay in boxing I don't think. I guess he could retire with all that money is your line of thinking, but he could just continue making more.
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Post by jamesod on Aug 25, 2017 15:01:36 GMT -5
This sucks. I wasn't a fan, but Jon Jones is one of the few guys in the UFC that makes me want to buy a PPV. Conor - likely goneDiaz bros - gone BJ Penn - gone or shell of his former self Paul Harris - gone Ronda - gone JBJ - likely gone. Who is going to get me to buy a PPV now? Cowboy maybe. I'll probably pay for GSP's comeback fight. Besides that? Maybe a Cody/TJ rematch or maybe if Mighty Mouse faces Cody or TJ. Maybe Cyborg/Nunes. Why don't you think Conor will go back to fighting for the UFC? It's not like he's going to stay in boxing I don't think. I guess he could retire with all that money is your line of thinking, but he could just continue making more. You make $70-100M for a single fight. Do you go back to fighting for $5-10M? Maybe. But maybe not. He's young and I do think he likes fighting, so maybe he comes back for the love of the game. But I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me if we never see him in the UFC again or, if he does come back, it's only for a fight or two. If GSP wins maybe he fights GSP? What UFC fighter who is a WW or lower would be a big money fight for Conor? Who would really get him interested? I don't think he really cares about a trilogy with Nate. Nate's not all that relevant unfortunately. I don't think he's dying to fight Woodley. Khabib is high risk, low reward. Tony Ferguson would be a great fight, but it's not like Tony is a big name. So who provides him the personal and/or financial motivation to fight in the UFC again?
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Post by Angelo on Aug 25, 2017 15:38:00 GMT -5
Why don't you think Conor will go back to fighting for the UFC? It's not like he's going to stay in boxing I don't think. I guess he could retire with all that money is your line of thinking, but he could just continue making more. You make $70-100M for a single fight. Do you go back to fighting for $5-10M? Maybe. But maybe not. He's young and I do think he likes fighting, so maybe he comes back for the love of the game. But I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me if we never see him in the UFC again or, if he does come back, it's only for a fight or two. If GSP wins maybe he fights GSP? What UFC fighter who is a WW or lower would be a big money fight for Conor? Who would really get him interested? I don't think he really cares about a trilogy with Nate. Nate's not all that relevant unfortunately. I don't think he's dying to fight Woodley. Khabib is high risk, low reward. Tony Ferguson would be a great fight, but it's not like Tony is a big name. So who provides him the personal and/or financial motivation to fight in the UFC again? Brock, or maybe another HW.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 20:43:53 GMT -5
Why don't you think Conor will go back to fighting for the UFC? It's not like he's going to stay in boxing I don't think. I guess he could retire with all that money is your line of thinking, but he could just continue making more. You make $70-100M for a single fight. Do you go back to fighting for $5-10M? Maybe. But maybe not. He's young and I do think he likes fighting, so maybe he comes back for the love of the game. But I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me if we never see him in the UFC again or, if he does come back, it's only for a fight or two. If GSP wins maybe he fights GSP? What UFC fighter who is a WW or lower would be a big money fight for Conor? Who would really get him interested? I don't think he really cares about a trilogy with Nate. Nate's not all that relevant unfortunately. I don't think he's dying to fight Woodley. Khabib is high risk, low reward. Tony Ferguson would be a great fight, but it's not like Tony is a big name. So who provides him the personal and/or financial motivation to fight in the UFC again? That's true. And win or lose he'll get credit (well, from a lot of people I think at least) for stepping up and fighting Floyd, and he'd retire as the first (and so far only) guy ever to hold two simultaneous belts in different weight classes in the UFC. Few guys have had as fast and meteoric a rise in the UFC as Connor, possibly no one in terms of popularity, and that's what's messed up is because honestly, a few guys have a very good chance at beating him, particularly Khabib,Ferguson and Edgar, but would he really want to risk his name and money in those fights? He seems like a pretty smart guy in terms of knowing what to do to make money and would probably be the type to quit while ahead I admit, but he also does seem to love to fight. I agree, really only GSP seems like a money fight for him in terms of anyone anywhere near any weight he could fight at. He can retire and make an argument at being the GOAT or at least one of them (I don't think he would be since he lost to Diaz and love him or hate him, Jones hasn't really lost yet). It'll be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by rock5173 on Sept 1, 2017 17:06:59 GMT -5
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