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Post by andrewk1988 on May 24, 2018 18:05:18 GMT -5
I am stubborn as fuck, no doubt about that. But I'm also not wrong in this instance. You and Kyle are talking about within the framework of American politics. I framed it historically and globally.
But to back up to the "you haven't been on the far right" point, I just submit 'Trumplestiltskin' if we just want to make it American politics. Trump is as far right as American politics gets, from what I can see.
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Post by Angelo on May 24, 2018 18:31:59 GMT -5
You are mixing Republican with conservatives again. Far-Right = Anarchy. Far-Left = Dictatorship. Anarchism is a left-wing philosophy but when referring to American Politics, it is like an extreme form of Libertarianism making it more towards the right. Anarchy 101. STFU JACK HOLE. When talking any politics, Right-wing is Anarchy. If Left-wing was anarchy, why are they so pro-tax and entitlements?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 18:35:41 GMT -5
LoL, so my name of Trumplestiltskin means I'm "right wing"?
You are wrong. I am not right wing. I might seem right wing because we as a nation went so far to the left for 8 years, but, I'm not right wing.
Trumplestiltskin is just a kickass name that also drives liberals insane. I am not for anarchy, which is a right wing thing. I am not for the elimination of police or the government, which is right wing.
You can keep on trying to convince yourself with weaker, and weaker arguments that I'm right wing just because I back Trump, but it doesn't move me from the back of the bird to the wing. Being on either wing entails extremism, and it seems the media has done a good job convincing you that there are extremists everywhere. Just like there are white supremacists everywhere, and every cop wants to shoot a black person, and being white means you have privilege. Unfortunately, all three of those things are debunked and bullshit.
So...sorry Andrew but I'm not right wing. I'm right leaning. Mostly, something you will come to accept is that I'm just right.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 18:37:31 GMT -5
Two different universes is all I can figure. I'm not backing off of anything I said. I'm just failing to realize what your point is towards mine other than you just wanting to talk about how great the wall is and Trump's immigration plan. The wall was used by me as a minute example of a bigger thought. It was so minor in what I was saying that it makes you look foolish and petty to argue about it. Can you give me a reason why we shouldn't have a wall? Let's say I come up with a plan that allows us to build the wall for $0.00 out of our budget... would you argue against having it in place? And why?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 18:42:21 GMT -5
Anarchism is a left-wing philosophy but when referring to American Politics, it is like an extreme form of Libertarianism making it more towards the right. Anarchy 101. STFU JACK HOLE. When talking any politics, Right-wing is Anarchy. If Left-wing was anarchy, why are they so pro-tax and entitlements? You are arguing against Anarchy 101 website. Once again, STFU.
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Post by Angelo on May 24, 2018 19:05:09 GMT -5
When talking any politics, Right-wing is Anarchy. If Left-wing was anarchy, why are they so pro-tax and entitlements? You are arguing against Anarchy 101 website. Once again, STFU. Ummm no.... I don't want the wall. I think an open border policy solves our economic issues actually.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 19:29:15 GMT -5
You are arguing against Anarchy 101 website. Once again, STFU. Ummm no.... I don't want the wall. I think an open border policy solves our economic issues actually. Dumbass, I'm saying I copied and pasted exactly what Anarchy 101 said about it being a left-wing philosophy and you are arguing that it isn't the case. Argue with the website.
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Post by Angelo on May 24, 2018 19:43:07 GMT -5
Ummm no.... I don't want the wall. I think an open border policy solves our economic issues actually. Dumbass, I'm saying I copied and pasted exactly what Anarchy 101 said about it being a left-wing philosophy and you are arguing that it isn't the case. Argue with the website. Dude, I don't give two fucks if someone wants to call themselves an anarchist and left-wing, doesn't make them right. Toehold can say he's smart. Vegeta can say he doesn't like it up the poopers. The Cup can say he never had sexual feelings for a relative. Aminal can say he'll fight someone if you come to him. OC can say he's more than a janitor. Hugh can say they know what is liberal and what is conservative. It doesn't make it true.
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Post by Premier on May 24, 2018 21:22:04 GMT -5
You are arguing against Anarchy 101 website. Once again, STFU. Ummm no.... I don't want the wall. I think an open border policy solves our economic issues actually. Wow. I have argued with hardcore liberals. And none of them were brave enough to admit they were for an open border policy. You must be trolling. An open border will create havoc in the whole country. We will have a massive migration that will deplete every single resource in the US. Something as plentiful as drinking water will be hard to get if we double the population within a couple of years. But alright, I'll bite. Please explain why you support an open border. People give you shit, but you are not dumb. Anyone with half a brain can see how an open border will be a nightmare for any developed country. Think about Haiti, Venezuela, most of the middle East and probably the whole African continent lining up for entrance.
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Post by Comrade Question on May 24, 2018 22:01:39 GMT -5
Has it occurred to any of you dinguses that maybe left/right is a fucking stupid way to categorize political beliefs in the first place? Like maybe things are slightly more nuanced than a single dimension of political belief?
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Post by floater on May 24, 2018 22:07:20 GMT -5
Like 3D vs 2 dimensional?
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Post by HumanAgent on May 24, 2018 22:10:18 GMT -5
Has it occurred to any of you dinguses that maybe left/right is a fucking stupid way to categorize political beliefs in the first place? Like maybe things are slightly more nuanced than a single dimension of political belief? That's what they want you to belive. I'm going to bring up a reference here many may not understand unless you've been in trouble with the law. You ever notice when you are in court, before the judge comes out, the defense attornies and the DAs are all friends and chatting it up and laughing... Then the judge comes out and it's time to take your corner... Then after it's over they are friends again having drinks and lunch afterwards... It's the same with the left and the right... Like the coyote and sheep dog cartoon, at the end of the day they go home and don't really care about the sheep.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 22:27:36 GMT -5
Has it occurred to any of you dinguses that maybe left/right is a fucking stupid way to categorize political beliefs in the first place? Like maybe things are slightly more nuanced than a single dimension of political belief? That's what they want you to belive. I'm going to bring up a reference here many may not understand unless you've been in trouble with the law. You ever notice when you are in court, before the judge comes out, the defense attornies and the DAs are all friends and chatting it up and laughing... Then the judge comes out and it's time to take your corner... Then after it's over they are friends again having drinks and lunch afterwards... It's the same with the left and the right... Like the coyote and sheep dog cartoon, at the end of the day they go home and don't really care about the sheep. You are 100% correct. The thing is that they work together, and clients become numbers to them. You'll be out of their sight tomorrow, but Perry Matlock will still be sitting there tomorrow. Reminds me of an article I recently read where Biden went to visit "his very dear friend" McCain. They pretend for decades to be bitter enemies, but they play for the same team. And they pretend that team is the same one as yours and mine. But it isn't. People who's jobs give them the power to drastically change the lives of others can become desensitized automatons who dngaf about those they are supposed to represent. See it in legal work and politics- daily.
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Post by Angelo on May 25, 2018 0:34:40 GMT -5
Ummm no.... I don't want the wall. I think an open border policy solves our economic issues actually. Wow. I have argued with hardcore liberals. And none of them were brave enough to admit they were for an open border policy. You must be trolling. An open border will create havoc in the whole country. We will have a massive migration that will deplete every single resource in the US. Something as plentiful as drinking water will be hard to get if we double the population within a couple of years. But alright, I'll bite. Please explain why you support an open border. People give you shit, but you are not dumb. Anyone with half a brain can see how an open border will be a nightmare for any developed country. Think about Haiti, Venezuela, most of the middle East and probably the whole African continent lining up for entrance. I support it because our country is broken, and an open border (or rather near-open) would be the death knell to the inefficiency of our government spending and force us to get our shit together. And as Trump has pointed out, not everyone that wants to come over is some druggie welfare seeking evildoer. 1. It would kill reckless entitlement spending within a year or two. 2. Cost of education would plummet with the average cost dropping from about 100k for a BS/A to 40k due to competition along with the demand increase. 3. Create more competition in various marketplaces. 4. Makes it more likely the next major scientific breakthrough happens here. 5. It'll kill the crude oil market (which is only still in existence thru corrupt and artificial means). 6. It'll force us to start respecting our resources and using them right. 7. We'll finally start developing our country. Currently we are by landmass one of the most underdeveloped countries in the world, mostly because our government loves us packed into as few places as possible. 8. Makes it harder for career politicians to stay in office. Maybe it what little optimism I have left in me, but I think such a policy would break the parts of our system that need breaking and we'll be stronger for it when we come out the other side.
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Post by MMAJim on May 25, 2018 8:45:08 GMT -5
I am stubborn as fuck, no doubt about that. But I'm also not wrong in this instance. You and Kyle are talking about within the framework of American politics. I framed it historically and globally. But to back up to the "you haven't been on the far right" point, I just submit 'Trumplestiltskin' if we just want to make it American politics. Trump is as far right as American politics gets, from what I can see. Trump is far right? LOL Trump received votes from the far right because of his stance on a couple of issues. Up until he entered the primaries and needed to move his message right to make a difference at that stage of the process, he was center and even left of center on a lot of things.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 9:00:34 GMT -5
Trump is widely known as being a liberal republican or moderate democrat throughout his entire life in New York. His track record is mixed, but I would argue that he is more liberal than the majority of people that voted for him. The liberal standard has very recently changed, and now includes open borders and globalization. 15 years ago that was not the case and Trump would have probably had more democrat followers than republicans.
I am still waiting for Andrew or someone to give me a reason why having a wall is a bad thing. Just one negative reason not to build it.
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Post by MMAJim on May 25, 2018 12:25:01 GMT -5
Trump is widely known as being a liberal republican or moderate democrat throughout his entire life in New York. His track record is mixed, but I would argue that he is more liberal than the majority of people that voted for him. The liberal standard has very recently changed, and now includes open borders and globalization. 15 years ago that was not the case and Trump would have probably had more democrat followers than republicans. I am still waiting for Andrew or someone to give me a reason why having a wall is a bad thing. Just one negative reason not to build it. You have to think like a lefty here. Lefties are racist, the are against having more legal immigrants. We could have more legal immigrants with a wall in place to slow down illegal immigrants.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 13:31:03 GMT -5
Trump is widely known as being a liberal republican or moderate democrat throughout his entire life in New York. His track record is mixed, but I would argue that he is more liberal than the majority of people that voted for him. The liberal standard has very recently changed, and now includes open borders and globalization. 15 years ago that was not the case and Trump would have probably had more democrat followers than republicans. I am still waiting for Andrew or someone to give me a reason why having a wall is a bad thing. Just one negative reason not to build it. You have to think like a lefty here. Lefties are racist, the are against having more legal immigrants. We could have more legal immigrants with a wall in place to slow down illegal immigrants. This is where I am at a loss with all of the people who say a wall is a bad, racist, imperialistic thing. It has nothing to do with how many people are allowed to come in, it only ensures we know who or how many. You could build a wall and quadruple the inflow of people if you wanted to. I know it's the stupid argument, but every person here locks their doors at night, locks their car, and locks their work up. Why is it different when we as a country want to do the same thing to keep shitty people out? Where in the constitution does it say that we are obligated to allow murderers and drug traffickers in unchecked?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 15:27:53 GMT -5
I got a giggle or three about this. From thegoldwater.com:
FAKE "BLACK" DEMOCRAT RACHEL DOLEZAL BUSTED FOR FELONY THEFT IN FOOD STAMP FRAUD
Sometimes karma hits you hard - and in the case of Rachel Dolezal - the notorious fraud who pretended to be “black” - another embarrassment of the Democratic Party - she's now been charged with Felony Theft in a Welfare Fraud case - and we can't help but smile.
Dolezal was able to deceive the world for many years, even making it to the head of her local NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) chapter in Spokane, Washington.
She would climb the ranks of the Democratic Party and became a hopeful to enter into the political arena. Or at least she thought. Til she was caught in a lie.
It would later spawn a controversy after her own family revealed that she is in no way, shape, or form an African-American.
This is a woman who's so far-gone both mentally and emotionally that she claimed to be African-American, and was later proven to be a fraud, all so she could virtue signal her way into the ranks of the disaster known as the modern-day Democratic Party.
Who could forget this much ignorance? We certainly can't.
Now she's facing felony theft charges in a welfare fraud case, where she's reported to have made false statements that accumulated nearly $9,000 in food stamps and welfare assistance for childcare.
After the controversial media attention for her lies about being black, Rachel Dolezal took the steps towards legally changing her name to Nkechi Diallo back in 2016.
Now, she's accused of 1st Degree Theft by Welfare Fraud, Perjury in the 2nd Degree, and False Verification for Public Assistance.
If she's to be convicted under RCW 74.08.331 in a court of law, her sentencing could include up to 15 years in prison as a result.
Court documents obtained by local NBC affiliate KHQ Q6 state that Diallo not only illegally received $8,747 in food stamp assistance, but that she illegally received $100 in child care assistance as well.
She will also be ordered to pay the state a total restitution of $8,847, which she is alleged to have stolen from the period of August 2015, through November 2017.
The investigation into her finances began in March of 2017 after a DSHS Office of Fraud and Accountability investigator received information Dolezal received profits from a published book all while receiving the assistance.
The contract for her publishing was reported to be anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 dollars, none of which she reported on her finances.
After conducting a standardized review of her case, Nkechi Diallo aka Rachel Dolezal had reported that her income was usually less than $500 a month in child support payments, which peaked the interest of the investigator.
He asked her how she was able to survive, and she replied with, “Barely! With the help from friends and gifts!”
Her bank records told a different story, and after a subpoena was issued the investigator looked back to 2015, where he found that Diallo had deposited about $83,924 into her bank account in multiple installments between August of 2015 and September of 2017.
That's an awful lot of cash for someone who's “barely” getting by.
Diallo hadn't reported any of that income to the Department of Social and Health Services, and that's where the criminal case was spawned from.
She was making a fortune from speaking engagements, and her book, “In Full Color,” and thought she could get away with duping the system at the same time.
This is laughable, and it's a surefire sign that karma is very real, in a hilarious moment of truth for this criminal.
The Democratic Party as a problem with identity politics, where it uses racial division to play a role of “divide and conquer,” and simultaneously does absolutely nothing for the minorities in which it attempts to divide to garnish their votes.
Here are a few pictures of Rachel Dolezal during her youth to showcase how she's from a completely white family, and while she may have wanted to be black, she isn't.
Come on, folks. This woman is nuts. There's no other explanation for this kind of stupidity.
Rachel Dolezal is a prime example of how preposterous identity politics are, and why the Democrats think that this type of despicable ignorance is acceptable when it's not.
First and foremost, the “MAGA” (Make America Great Again) movement is a party full of patriots, and those patriots have no skin color as they fight together.
We don't use sexual identity or race or anything divisive to find solutions to the problems that the United States of America faces, because we're all Americans, and united we stand, whilst divided we will fail.
It's what separates the left from the right, and the fiction of the Democrats from the truth provided by President Trump. He offers an uncut, brutal reality; and with that honesty comes solutions.
You cannot solve society's problems if you're unwilling to talk about them as a whole. Nobody likes double-standards.
Rachel Dolezal broke the law, and as a result, she took away from people who actually could have used this assistance.
It's tragic that someone who's mentally unstable is still plotting to lie, cheat, and steal; and was able to get away with it for some time.
This is what the Democratic Party represents in 2018: frauds who use and abuse people to get ahead themselves. They game the system.
I hope she enjoys prison. That's where she belongs.
Additional Sources or Relevant Information:
khq.com/story/38272892/former-spokane-naacp-president-rachel-dolezal-facing-felony-theft-charges-for-alleged-food-stamp-fraud
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Post by boboplata on May 25, 2018 17:58:56 GMT -5
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Post by Angelo on May 25, 2018 18:41:07 GMT -5
If he wasn't such a fuckwad I might have felt bad about it. oh and that isn't his name. He uses pseudonyms because he's a fucking coward like Vegeta.
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Post by slaytan on May 26, 2018 5:55:46 GMT -5
If he wasn't such a fuckwad I might have felt bad about it. oh and that isn't his name. He uses pseudonyms because he's a fucking coward like Vegeta. God damn you’re a fuckwad.
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Post by daywork on May 26, 2018 20:36:30 GMT -5
If he wasn't such a fuckwad I might have felt bad about it. oh and that isn't his name. He uses pseudonyms because he's a fucking coward like Vegeta. All he was doing was reporting. I heard within an hour he was sentenced to 13 months.
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Post by Angelo on May 26, 2018 20:56:05 GMT -5
If he wasn't such a fuckwad I might have felt bad about it. oh and that isn't his name. He uses pseudonyms because he's a fucking coward like Vegeta. All he was doing was reporting. I heard within an hour he was sentenced to 13 months. Yeah he was reporting like I currently have a mutli-million dollar salary. He's a shit sipping shit stirrer and just likes to cause trouble.
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Post by slaytan on May 27, 2018 6:35:50 GMT -5
All he was doing was reporting. I heard within an hour he was sentenced to 13 months. Yeah he was reporting like I currently have a mutli-million dollar salary. He's a shit sipping shit stirrer and just likes to cause trouble. Let us all take a moment to consider the magnitude of Jackquell’s fuckboyery as he rejoices in a man being arrested for absolutely nothing and imprisoned for a year “Causing trouble” is what Jacky calls it when someone seeks to bring to the attention of the public, atrocities being committed. Tommy Robinson is nothing short of a hero -and if he isn’t a journalist, just who the fuck is? Tommy Robinson alone is the reason the public knows the first thing about a great many deadly serious issues. For example, it was Tommy Robinson’s journalism alone that derailed the political career of a bona fide Muslim plant in British politics, a man who had been a British Army officer and would likely have become prime minister without being exposed by Robinson through secret recordings. All throughout, Robinson has been repeatedly slandered and jailed on trumped up charges, his family threatened, and yet he has persevered. If he is not both a hero and a journalist, then those words have no meaning. Just like if Angeload isn’t a fuckboy, fuckboy loses its meaning
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Post by Angelo on May 27, 2018 12:56:28 GMT -5
Yeah he was reporting like I currently have a mutli-million dollar salary. He's a shit sipping shit stirrer and just likes to cause trouble. Let us all take a moment to consider the magnitude of Jackquell’s fuckboyery as he rejoices in a man being arrested for absolutely nothing and imprisoned for a year “Causing trouble” is what Jacky calls it when someone seeks to bring to the attention of the public, atrocities being committed. Tommy Robinson is nothing short of a hero -and if he isn’t a journalist, just who the fuck is? Tommy Robinson alone is the reason the public knows the first thing about a great many deadly serious issues. For example, it was Tommy Robinson’s journalism alone that derailed the political career of a bona fide Muslim plant in British politics, a man who had been a British Army officer and would likely have become prime minister without being exposed by Robinson through secret recordings. All throughout, Robinson has been repeatedly slandered and jailed on trumped up charges, his family threatened, and yet he has persevered. If he is not both a hero and a journalist, then those words have no meaning. Just like if Angeload isn’t a fuckboy, fuckboy loses its meaning The dude was on probation, that's why he was sentenced the way he was. Just like in the US the laws there don't allow you to film in specific areas. edit: And I do think he should have been allowed to film there, however I'm surprised you are supporting an act of civil disobedience. You seem to want the cops to crack down on it here, but not there? Are you a British plant?
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Post by daywork on May 27, 2018 13:09:55 GMT -5
The judge also issued a gag order on news outlets on reporting on the Tommy Robinson.
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Post by daywork on May 27, 2018 13:12:23 GMT -5
Let us all take a moment to consider the magnitude of Jackquell’s fuckboyery as he rejoices in a man being arrested for absolutely nothing and imprisoned for a year “Causing trouble” is what Jacky calls it when someone seeks to bring to the attention of the public, atrocities being committed. Tommy Robinson is nothing short of a hero -and if he isn’t a journalist, just who the fuck is? Tommy Robinson alone is the reason the public knows the first thing about a great many deadly serious issues. For example, it was Tommy Robinson’s journalism alone that derailed the political career of a bona fide Muslim plant in British politics, a man who had been a British Army officer and would likely have become prime minister without being exposed by Robinson through secret recordings. All throughout, Robinson has been repeatedly slandered and jailed on trumped up charges, his family threatened, and yet he has persevered. If he is not both a hero and a journalist, then those words have no meaning. Just like if Angeload isn’t a fuckboy, fuckboy loses its meaning The dude was on probation, that's why he was sentenced the way he was. Just like in the US the laws there don't allow you to film in specific areas. edit: And I do think he should have been allowed to film there, however I'm surprised you are supporting an act of civil disobedience. You seem to want the cops to crack down on it here, but not there? Are you a British plant? The arrest wasn't all about where he was filming. They didn't like him questions people coming out of the court house. He did film himself inside the courthouse and that is a no go. All it sounds like to me is the far left not liking the far right.
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Post by HumanAgent on May 27, 2018 13:20:25 GMT -5
I'm sure you were being very civilly obedient when you were out there during the Ferguson riots.
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Post by daywork on May 27, 2018 13:21:24 GMT -5
I didn't watch that whole thing. But I guess this is the stream that got him arrested.
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