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Post by Angelo on Sept 19, 2017 18:03:48 GMT -5
Not sure how Trump's claims that Obama wire tapped him are being proven right because the FBI wire tapped Paul Manafort for suspected Russian ties And unltimately....were they wrong to suspect as much? Hell, Obama could have been directly involved in the decision to to that. He even could have done it to help the dems and damage the conservatives. But we still have no proof that he tapped Trumps phones, devices or rooms at his tower, like Donald explicitly claimed. At least not yet. Who knows, that still could be coming down the pike. But THIS isn't that This is Manafort. And he DID meet with russians. We don't know what they have with these taps too. Could be some damning shit. I'd really wait and see before I decided this news is actually good for Trump's cause It leaked early on much to the chagrin of the DNC that Obama actually warned Trump during the campaign to distance himself from Manafort too. This tells me two things. 1. Means Trump didn't have knowledge of alleged Russian interference in his favor. 2. That even Obama recognized Trump didn't know wtf was going on.
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Post by PatSox on Sept 19, 2017 18:39:41 GMT -5
Not sure how Trump's claims that Obama wire tapped him are being proven right because the FBI wire tapped Paul Manafort for suspected Russian ties And unltimately....were they wrong to suspect as much? Hell, Obama could have been directly involved in the decision to to that. He even could have done it to help the dems and damage the conservatives. But we still have no proof that he tapped Trumps phones, devices or rooms at his tower, like Donald explicitly claimed. At least not yet. Who knows, that still could be coming down the pike. But THIS isn't that This is Manafort. And he DID meet with russians. We don't know what they have with these taps too. Could be some damning shit. I'd really wait and see before I decided this news is actually good for Trump's cause It leaked early on much to the chagrin of the DNC that Obama actually warned Trump during the campaign to distance himself from Manafort too. This tells me two things. 1. Means Trump didn't have knowledge of alleged Russian interference in his favor. 2. That even Obama recognized Trump didn't know wtf was going on. Could be the case. But I doubt he'll get the benefit of the doubt if Manafort and maybe even Kushner get banged for this
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Post by Angelo on Sept 19, 2017 18:44:39 GMT -5
It leaked early on much to the chagrin of the DNC that Obama actually warned Trump during the campaign to distance himself from Manafort too. This tells me two things. 1. Means Trump didn't have knowledge of alleged Russian interference in his favor. 2. That even Obama recognized Trump didn't know wtf was going on. Could be the case. But I doubt he'll get the benefit of the doubt if Manafort and maybe even Kushner get banged for this Oh no way would he get the benefit of the doubt in the society we live in.
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Post by matt on Sept 19, 2017 20:38:32 GMT -5
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Post by Baph on Sept 19, 2017 22:48:09 GMT -5
Not sure how Trump's claims that Obama wire tapped him are being proven right because the FBI wire tapped Paul Manafort for suspected Russian ties And unltimately....were they wrong to suspect as much? Hell, Obama could have been directly involved in the decision to to that. He even could have done it to help the dems and damage the conservatives. But we still have no proof that he tapped Trumps phones, devices or rooms at his tower, like Donald explicitly claimed. At least not yet. Who knows, that still could be coming down the pike. But THIS isn't that This is Manafort. And he DID meet with russians. We don't know what they have with these taps too. Could be some damning shit. I'd really wait and see before I decided this news is actually good for Trump's cause I never claimed it was good for Trump; just that everyone who mocked him for claiming he was being wire tapped is a jerkoff. They tapped him, his cabinet, everything connected to him, they unmasked and disseminated names and lintel with the intent of creating a steady drum beat of damaging leaks, and that's all we got for the first six months of this administration: leaks like the fucking Titanic. Judge Nepolatono claims he has sources indicating they used additional foreign assets to do much more extensive tapping well beyond what's being speculated here. They used the power of government to spy on adversaries and manipulate outcomes, which is exactly what Snowden was afraid of, which hearkens back to the IRS targeting scandal, and reinforces what we already know about the media being in bed with the left to the point they're willing to run false stories, feed debate questions prior to debates, do the master's bidding with virtually no regard for the implications. I would strongly suspect that this, what CNN is divulging, is merely the tip of the iceberg.
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Post by slaytan on Sept 20, 2017 5:19:22 GMT -5
I agree that patsux is a jerkoff, but I would add terms like "smarmy" and "sneering."
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Post by PatSox on Sept 20, 2017 5:27:32 GMT -5
Not sure how Trump's claims that Obama wire tapped him are being proven right because the FBI wire tapped Paul Manafort for suspected Russian ties And unltimately....were they wrong to suspect as much? Hell, Obama could have been directly involved in the decision to to that. He even could have done it to help the dems and damage the conservatives. But we still have no proof that he tapped Trumps phones, devices or rooms at his tower, like Donald explicitly claimed. At least not yet. Who knows, that still could be coming down the pike. But THIS isn't that This is Manafort. And he DID meet with russians. We don't know what they have with these taps too. Could be some damning shit. I'd really wait and see before I decided this news is actually good for Trump's cause I never claimed it was good for Trump; just that everyone who mocked him for claiming he was being wire tapped is a jerkoff. They tapped him, his cabinet, everything connected to him, they unmasked and disseminated names and lintel with the intent of creating a steady drum beat of damaging leaks, and that's all we got for the first six months of this administration: leaks like the fucking Titanic. Judge Nepolatono claims he has sources indicating they used additional foreign assets to do much more extensive tapping well beyond what's being speculated here. They used the power of government to spy on adversaries and manipulate outcomes, which is exactly what Snowden was afraid of, which hearkens back to the IRS targeting scandal, and reinforces what we already know about the media being in bed with the left to the point they're willing to run false stories, feed debate questions prior to debates, do the master's bidding with virtually no regard for the implications. I would strongly suspect that this, what CNN is divulging, is merely the tip of the iceberg. Wait, wait, wait..........what? Where are you getting that? The only thing we know is that the FBI suspected Manafort and tapped him. Just him. That's all there is so far. If more comes out later that it was Trump himself, his entrire cabint and "everything connected to him"....fine. Do a dance, brag, laugh at the doubters. But that has not happened yet dude If we start just throwing unkown, unproven shit out there like fact, we're no better than the news outlets
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Post by slaytan on Sept 20, 2017 5:43:28 GMT -5
Yeah patsux: entire phone conversations of Trumps being leaked in no way support the claim that his phone was tapped
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Post by slaytan on Sept 20, 2017 5:45:49 GMT -5
Diverting the topic...
My friend made a great point yesterday in conversation, that the biggest, perhaps sole reason the drug cartels have been able to overtake Mexico is that there is no second amendment there
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Post by PatSox on Sept 20, 2017 7:04:51 GMT -5
Yeah patsux: entire phone conversations of Trumps being leaked in no way support the claim that his phone was tapped Ooh, you might have me here. I didn't know there were entire conversations leaked. Probably because like you guys say, the liberal slanted news outlets would want to bury that sort of thing Is there a legit link that talks about this? Honestly, I'm not dismissing that they could have done this to him. I just haven't seen any solid evidence yet to prove it. Only the Manafort stuff
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Post by Angelo on Sept 20, 2017 7:58:29 GMT -5
I never claimed it was good for Trump; just that everyone who mocked him for claiming he was being wire tapped is a jerkoff. They tapped him, his cabinet, everything connected to him, they unmasked and disseminated names and lintel with the intent of creating a steady drum beat of damaging leaks, and that's all we got for the first six months of this administration: leaks like the fucking Titanic. Judge Nepolatono claims he has sources indicating they used additional foreign assets to do much more extensive tapping well beyond what's being speculated here. They used the power of government to spy on adversaries and manipulate outcomes, which is exactly what Snowden was afraid of, which hearkens back to the IRS targeting scandal, and reinforces what we already know about the media being in bed with the left to the point they're willing to run false stories, feed debate questions prior to debates, do the master's bidding with virtually no regard for the implications. I would strongly suspect that this, what CNN is divulging, is merely the tip of the iceberg. Wait, wait, wait..........what? Where are you getting that? The only thing we know is that the FBI suspected Manafort and tapped him. Just him. That's all there is so far. If more comes out later that it was Trump himself, his entrire cabint and "everything connected to him"....fine. Do a dance, brag, laugh at the doubters. But that has not happened yet dude If we start just throwing unkown, unproven shit out there like fact, we're no better than the news outlets Trump's administration turned up no directly ordered taps of anyone but Manafort, however there is still a ton of questions about how many of them were swept up under other taps and kept their conversations of. I can't remember the name for it but basically if they tap one person, they can then have basically a John Doe tap on numbers they contact (and then jump to another john doe) and that information is kept and if something fishy shows up they "unmask" who the person is they tapped. However the big issue is here is, did Lynch use that as a work-around to get information on Trump and Co. knowing that even though it wasn't confirmed on paper, the information was good. On top of which the unmasking requests from before that was discussed. Also how many conversations did Manafort have with people who were members of Trump's team that were recorded and disseminated throughout Obama's Admin and subsequently the DNC.
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Post by matt on Sept 20, 2017 9:58:17 GMT -5
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Post by slaytan on Sept 20, 2017 11:14:00 GMT -5
Yeah patsux: entire phone conversations of Trumps being leaked in no way support the claim that his phone was tapped Ooh, you might have me here. I didn't know there were entire conversations leaked. Probably because like you guys say, the liberal slanted news outlets would want to bury that sort of thing Is there a legit link that talks about this? Honestly, I'm not dismissing that they could have done this to him. I just haven't seen any solid evidence yet to prove it. Only the Manafort stuff The fact that nobody else has chimed in leads me to believe that I likely am guilty of dildory, as I thought some phone calls to foreign leaders were leaked in their entirety. Am I mistaken? To be perfectly honest I don't have my ear to the floor like I once did (when I posted often), but the more people go out on a limb with A) arguing that Trump wasn't a victim of Soviet style surveillance B) that he colluded with Putin to win, the dumber they look (although there will never be a reckoning. The Colberts and Noahs will just stop mentioning it).
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Post by Baph on Sept 20, 2017 13:57:55 GMT -5
I never claimed it was good for Trump; just that everyone who mocked him for claiming he was being wire tapped is a jerkoff. They tapped him, his cabinet, everything connected to him, they unmasked and disseminated names and lintel with the intent of creating a steady drum beat of damaging leaks, and that's all we got for the first six months of this administration: leaks like the fucking Titanic. Judge Nepolatono claims he has sources indicating they used additional foreign assets to do much more extensive tapping well beyond what's being speculated here. They used the power of government to spy on adversaries and manipulate outcomes, which is exactly what Snowden was afraid of, which hearkens back to the IRS targeting scandal, and reinforces what we already know about the media being in bed with the left to the point they're willing to run false stories, feed debate questions prior to debates, do the master's bidding with virtually no regard for the implications. I would strongly suspect that this, what CNN is divulging, is merely the tip of the iceberg. Wait, wait, wait..........what? Where are you getting that? The only thing we know is that the FBI suspected Manafort and tapped him. Just him. That's all there is so far. If more comes out later that it was Trump himself, his entrire cabint and "everything connected to him"....fine. Do a dance, brag, laugh at the doubters. But that has not happened yet dude If we start just throwing unkown, unproven shit out there like fact, we're no better than the news outlets Wrong. This is all there. You just haven't followed the breadcrumbs. We've know all this for months. Let me feed you some names and dates. The senate intel committee was looking at Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch months ago after unmasked names were seen in documents by Devin Nunes. He saw names of family members, private citizens, private conversations with friends and family, nothing to do with Russia or anything else, they were sweeping it ALL up and hoping to find anything at all that could be surreptitiously leaked to damage Trump via lackeys in the press. He was shocked and went immediately to the White House to meet with Trump. This was all over the news for weeks. This is a clear violation of FISA law, yet it had been going on for months and worse, openly being passed around to as many agencies and eyeballs as possible. Hell, we had Evelyn Farkas, an Obama intel staffer, admit on MSNBC on live TV that their objective was to unmask and disseminate as much dirt as possible before Trump took office and shut their taps down. That's fucking illegal and an egregious abuse of power. It's the IRS targeting only done with a different agency, NSA or FBI, now. Use the power and machinery of government to attack my opponents. Nepolatano said repeatedly that the steady stream of leaks all came from a series of taps that were ordered by the Obama administration and then used ancillary collection methods like the ones Angelo just described. If I tap your chief of staff I don't need to tap you, because all you have to do is call him ONCE and now I can sweep you up in my collection, unmask you, and pass it around and make sure it gets leaked in the all-too-eager press. This is how NSA and FISA shit works and the ONE incident they're telling everyone in the world about is absolutely NOT all there is too it. This isn't Pleasantville. They are hiding shit, dude. Obama had multiple such tapping scandals during his term including many foreign leaders. He personally approved a tap on Angela Merke's phone three years ago. These are known facts. The pattern fits. The Manafort deal is the tip of the iceberg -- I stand by that 100%. Why would you assume otherwise? Assuming a huge degree of transparency from our federal overlords?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 14:20:13 GMT -5
I never claimed it was good for Trump; just that everyone who mocked him for claiming he was being wire tapped is a jerkoff. They tapped him, his cabinet, everything connected to him, they unmasked and disseminated names and lintel with the intent of creating a steady drum beat of damaging leaks, and that's all we got for the first six months of this administration: leaks like the fucking Titanic. Judge Nepolatono claims he has sources indicating they used additional foreign assets to do much more extensive tapping well beyond what's being speculated here. They used the power of government to spy on adversaries and manipulate outcomes, which is exactly what Snowden was afraid of, which hearkens back to the IRS targeting scandal, and reinforces what we already know about the media being in bed with the left to the point they're willing to run false stories, feed debate questions prior to debates, do the master's bidding with virtually no regard for the implications. I would strongly suspect that this, what CNN is divulging, is merely the tip of the iceberg. Wait, wait, wait..........what? Where are you getting that? The only thing we know is that the FBI suspected Manafort and tapped him. Just him. That's all there is so far. If more comes out later that it was Trump himself, his entrire cabint and "everything connected to him"....fine. Do a dance, brag, laugh at the doubters. But that has not happened yet dude If we start just throwing unkown, unproven shit out there like fact, we're no better than the news outlets This post makes me laugh out loud. For 6 months you repeated every claim that any news outlet made that in any way disparaged Trump. You came on here saying that it had to be true, because the fact that multiple news agencies were all reporting something similar. For months and months you got pissed off at people here saying that maybe it would be wise to hold judgement until actual facts came out. You repeatedly called people like myself names and insinuated that we were too stupid to form our own opinions because we were in the tank for Trump... then you post something like you did above and have no clue the irony that accompanies it. Awesome.
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Post by PatSox on Sept 20, 2017 14:54:18 GMT -5
Wait, wait, wait..........what? Where are you getting that? The only thing we know is that the FBI suspected Manafort and tapped him. Just him. That's all there is so far. If more comes out later that it was Trump himself, his entrire cabint and "everything connected to him"....fine. Do a dance, brag, laugh at the doubters. But that has not happened yet dude If we start just throwing unkown, unproven shit out there like fact, we're no better than the news outlets This post makes me laugh out loud. For 6 months you repeated every claim that any news outlet made that in any way disparaged Trump. You came on here saying that it had to be true, because the fact that multiple news agencies were all reporting something similar. For months and months you got pissed off at people here saying that maybe it would be wise to hold judgement until actual facts came out. You repeatedly called people like myself names and insinuated that we were too stupid to form our own opinions because we were in the tank for Trump... then you post something like you did above and have no clue the irony that accompanies it. Awesome. Kyle.....what the fuck are you talking about? I didn't repeat every news claim or said anything HAD to be true. I never said you were dumb or called you names. Who are you imagining in my place? We've had so many conversations since he was elected, clarifying where we were coming from. Yet you still have this need to jump at the chance to "get me" as if none of that ever happened. Why?
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Post by PatSox on Sept 20, 2017 15:06:26 GMT -5
Wait, wait, wait..........what? Where are you getting that? The only thing we know is that the FBI suspected Manafort and tapped him. Just him. That's all there is so far. If more comes out later that it was Trump himself, his entrire cabint and "everything connected to him"....fine. Do a dance, brag, laugh at the doubters. But that has not happened yet dude If we start just throwing unkown, unproven shit out there like fact, we're no better than the news outlets Wrong. This is all there. You just haven't followed the breadcrumbs. We've know all this for months. Let me feed you some names and dates. The senate intel committee was looking at Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch months ago after unmasked names were seen in documents by Devin Nunes. He saw names of family members, private citizens, private conversations with friends and family, nothing to do with Russia or anything else, they were sweeping it ALL up and hoping to find anything at all that could be surreptitiously leaked to damage Trump via lackeys in the press. He was shocked and went immediately to the White House to meet with Trump. This was all over the news for weeks. This is a clear violation of FISA law, yet it had been going on for months and worse, openly being passed around to as many agencies and eyeballs as possible. Hell, we had Evelyn Farkas, an Obama intel staffer, admit on MSNBC on live TV that their objective was to unmask and disseminate as much dirt as possible before Trump took office and shut their taps down. That's fucking illegal and an egregious abuse of power. It's the IRS targeting only done with a different agency, NSA or FBI, now. Use the power and machinery of government to attack my opponents. Nepolatano said repeatedly that the steady stream of leaks all came from a series of taps that were ordered by the Obama administration and then used ancillary collection methods like the ones Angelo just described. If I tap your chief of staff I don't need to tap you, because all you have to do is call him ONCE and now I can sweep you up in my collection, unmask you, and pass it around and make sure it gets leaked in the all-too-eager press. This is how NSA and FISA shit works and the ONE incident they're telling everyone in the world about is absolutely NOT all there is too it. This isn't Pleasantville. They are hiding shit, dude. Obama had multiple such tapping scandals during his term including many foreign leaders. He personally approved a tap on Angela Merke's phone three years ago. These are known facts. The pattern fits. The Manafort deal is the tip of the iceberg -- I stand by that 100%. Why would you assume otherwise? Assuming a huge degree of transparency from our federal overlords? Okay. I can see where your going there. Could be the case. These are vile motherfuckers we're talking about after all I thought I missed some stories about hundred percent confirmation that this is what was done. Which surprised me. But what you said out makes some sense
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 16:30:15 GMT -5
This post makes me laugh out loud. For 6 months you repeated every claim that any news outlet made that in any way disparaged Trump. You came on here saying that it had to be true, because the fact that multiple news agencies were all reporting something similar. For months and months you got pissed off at people here saying that maybe it would be wise to hold judgement until actual facts came out. You repeatedly called people like myself names and insinuated that we were too stupid to form our own opinions because we were in the tank for Trump... then you post something like you did above and have no clue the irony that accompanies it. Awesome. Kyle.....what the fuck are you talking about? I didn't repeat every news claim or said anything HAD to be true. I never said you were dumb or called you names. Who are you imagining in my place? We've had so many conversations since he was elected, clarifying where we were coming from. Yet you still have this need to jump at the chance to "get me" as if none of that ever happened. Why? Yes you did consistently jump over every news claim about the negatives of Trump, whether there were any facts or not. It was even so bad that I made a thread about Tom Brady being suspended for repeated concussions which was completely untrue and fabricated... just to show you what you were doing to Trump (which worked perfectly I'll add). I don't need to "get you"... however I am going to point out the ridiculous irony in you giving people advice to not jump to conclusions or talk about something as if it's factual when its not. Do we really need to go back through the Trump thread and bring up all the things you proclaimed him guilty of that either turned out to be false or have not been proven still?
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Post by matt on Sept 20, 2017 17:40:25 GMT -5
Kyle.....what the fuck are you talking about? I didn't repeat every news claim or said anything HAD to be true. I never said you were dumb or called you names. Who are you imagining in my place? We've had so many conversations since he was elected, clarifying where we were coming from. Yet you still have this need to jump at the chance to "get me" as if none of that ever happened. Why? Yes you did consistently jump over every news claim about the negatives of Trump, whether there were any facts or not. It was even so bad that I made a thread about Tom Brady being suspended for repeated concussions which was completely untrue and fabricated... just to show you what you were doing to Trump (which worked perfectly I'll add). I don't need to "get you"... however I am going to point out the ridiculous irony in you giving people advice to not jump to conclusions or talk about something as if it's factual when its not. Do we really need to go back through the Trump thread and bring up all the things you proclaimed him guilty of that either turned out to be false or have not been proven still? Zero percent of the "Trump/Russia collusion" stories have been proven to be true, and NONE of them have even slightly been based in even the SMALLEST semblance of ANYTHING accurate....yet the entire country is operating as if 100 percent of the trump/russia collision stuff is real... As a matter of fact, it was actually proven that Hilary and Podesta were colluding with Russia and making illegal cash deals with Putin. And on top of that, it's been proven that the "russian piss" dossier that was used to slander trump during the election was actually fabricated by a company that has ties to Obama... But who cares about the truth when there's an agenda to push?!
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Post by matt on Sept 20, 2017 17:50:08 GMT -5
Oh wait, did Russia still "hack" the election?!
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Post by PatSox on Sept 20, 2017 19:09:00 GMT -5
Kyle.....what the fuck are you talking about? I didn't repeat every news claim or said anything HAD to be true. I never said you were dumb or called you names. Who are you imagining in my place? We've had so many conversations since he was elected, clarifying where we were coming from. Yet you still have this need to jump at the chance to "get me" as if none of that ever happened. Why? Yes you did consistently jump over every news claim about the negatives of Trump, whether there were any facts or not. It was even so bad that I made a thread about Tom Brady being suspended for repeated concussions which was completely untrue and fabricated... just to show you what you were doing to Trump (which worked perfectly I'll add). I don't need to "get you"... however I am going to point out the ridiculous irony in you giving people advice to not jump to conclusions or talk about something as if it's factual when its not. Do we really need to go back through the Trump thread and bring up all the things you proclaimed him guilty of that either turned out to be false or have not been proven still? No Kyle, I didn't. You're simply not remembering this right I'm the guy who thinks the world is run by bankers and super rich old families. And most important decisions and wars that happen are at their behest, not the government. I'm the guy who said the two party system is a sham. A propped up opposition to distract us from what's really happening, by pitting us against each other like Red Vs Blue is a team sport and we have to pick a side and fight tooth and nail for "our guys" I'm the guy who kept saying I disliked Trump, as a man. And that he lied his ass off worse than any politician I could remember. Promising all these things were going to come to pass after he was in office for like a few months. And I'm the guy who talked a bunch of shit after a few months, when none of it did I also claimed the same would have happened with Bernie. And that the only reason it wouldn't with Hillary is because she was in the network and would just play ball like the every president since Kennedy Remember that? Petty as it may have been to try and rub people's faces in the Trump promise stuff. Right or wrong to take the puppet goverment stance as people may think, that was me If I'm guilty of anything it's that. And it was that which triggered people like OC to suspect me of being some super lib in disguise.. I remember defending myself on that. Usually unsuccesfully, but some people stuck up for me here and there. Is any of this ringing a bell? "Patsox is a lib, he just won't admit it. No I'm not. I don't care about that bipartisan shit. Yes you do, It's why you never said anything about Obama and are all over Trump. No that's not why, I just really hate Trump. Always have." Remember this stuff? And if you still think I am one, fine. But stop telling me about all these things I said and stances I took, when I know I didn't. I'm ME. Which sort of makes me an expert on what I say and how I feel
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 20:53:39 GMT -5
Give me a couple hours...
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Post by slaytan on Sept 21, 2017 4:42:55 GMT -5
Oh wait, did Russia still "hack" the election?! Lol That morphed into "Trump colluded with Russia," ...and now "Russia attempted to influence." ... which of course Russia did, as they have in every national, and most local, American elections for the last 100 years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 7:50:06 GMT -5
Kyle has had ten hours.
I'm not one to defend anyone here as all are capable of doing that themselves. However, in defense of Cup-
I was on him during the election because I figured he was just another liberal from Massachoochoo. But he explained his position to me and it clarified where he was coming from. He really just dislikes Trump and has disliked him prior to the election. He has more vitriol for the bankers, Rockefellers and Rothschilds of the world, and I can't fault him for that because I don't trust those motherfuckers either.
I understand where he is coming from better now, and it is possible that some of his thoughts come off as "liberal" because he is both critical of Trump and surrounded on all sides by blue flag waving morons, as that's Massachoochoo to a T. Possible he hears a lot more stupid liberal shit on a daily basis than most of us hear in a week (aside perhaps from those of you who dwell in SoCal).
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Post by PatSox on Sept 21, 2017 8:44:35 GMT -5
Kyle has had ten hours. I'm not one to defend anyone here as all are capable of doing that themselves. However, in defense of Cup- I was on him during the election because I figured he was just another liberal from Massachoochoo. But he explained his position to me and it clarified where he was coming from. He really just dislikes Trump and has disliked him prior to the election. He has more vitriol for the bankers, Rockefellers and Rothschilds of the world, and I can't fault him for that because I don't trust those motherfuckers either. I understand where he is coming from better now, and it is possible that some of his thoughts come off as "liberal" because he is both critical of Trump and surrounded on all sides by blue flag waving morons, as that's Massachoochoo to a T. Possible he hears a lot more stupid liberal shit on a daily basis than most of us hear in a week (aside perhaps from those of you who dwell in SoCal). Well, in Kyles defense, he had to sleep. May still be sleeping, as I assume the "norcal" refers to living in California. He's going to be disappointed regardles of when he reads through that thread though It's going to be what I said it would. Me calling out Trump for not delivering on starting the wall, ending ISIS, repealing and replacing Obama Care, and presenting a great new tax plan, like he boasted he would 1,000 times he would do immediately. Me lamenting the fact that only the biased liberal media will call him out on this, which is worthless. And that I really would like it to come from the people that elected him and were lied to.....It's been 10 months now, by the way. There will be mentions of how much I hate bipartisan politics. How much both republicans and democrats are deplorable pieces of shit. How much this Red VS Blue side picking clouds our judgement and distracts us, by pitting us against one another. There will be mentions of bankers running everything. There will be mentions of how Trump's cabinet is rife with bankers and how they made a lot of executive orders that will benefit them and him, for years to come. There will be mentions of how that is not draining the swamp, just like more military spending isn't either, as that just enriches coporations like Lockhead, Raytheon, B.A.E. Systems etc. There will be a lot of civil discourse between he and I, as well as yourself, OC, Baph etc. There will be a lot of Garth calling me a slew of the least clever nicnnames to ever fall out of the front of a swamp boat redneck's half-wit face Kyle, I get why you want to embrarass me. I have accused you of being racist before and that REALLY seemed to bother you. So if I was truly wrong about that, I apologize. If not.......well, then I don't
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 9:13:15 GMT -5
Kyle has had ten hours. I'm not one to defend anyone here as all are capable of doing that themselves. However, in defense of Cup- I was on him during the election because I figured he was just another liberal from Massachoochoo. But he explained his position to me and it clarified where he was coming from. He really just dislikes Trump and has disliked him prior to the election. He has more vitriol for the bankers, Rockefellers and Rothschilds of the world, and I can't fault him for that because I don't trust those motherfuckers either. I understand where he is coming from better now, and it is possible that some of his thoughts come off as "liberal" because he is both critical of Trump and surrounded on all sides by blue flag waving morons, as that's Massachoochoo to a T. Possible he hears a lot more stupid liberal shit on a daily basis than most of us hear in a week (aside perhaps from those of you who dwell in SoCal). Well, in Kyles defense, he had to sleep. May still be sleeping, as I assume the "norcal" refers to living in California. He's going to be disappointed regardles of when he reads through that thread though It's going to be what I said it would. Me calling out Trump for not delivering on starting the wall, ending ISIS, repealing and replacing Obama Care, and presenting a great new tax plan, like he boasted he would 1,000 times he would do immediately. Me lamenting the fact that only the biased liberal media will call him out on this, which is worthless. And that I really would like it to come from the people that elected him and were lied to.....It's been 10 months now, by the way. There will be mentions of how much I hate bipartisan politics. How much both republicans and democrats are deplorable pieces of shit. How much this Red VS Blue side picking clouds our judgement and distracts us, by pitting us against one another. There will be mentions of bankers running everything. There will be mentions of how Trump's cabinet is rife with bankers and how they made a lot of executive orders that will benefit them and him, for years to come. There will be mentions of how that is not draining the swamp, just like more military spending isn't either, as that just enriches coporations like Lockhead, Raytheon, B.A.E. Systems etc. There will be a lot of civil discourse between he and I, as well as yourself, OC, Baph etc. There will be a lot of Garth calling me a slew of the least clever nicnnames to ever fall out of the front of a swamp boat redneck's half-wit face Kyle, I get why you want to embrarass me. I have accused you of being racist before and that REALLY seemed to bother you. So if I was truly wrong about that, I apologize. If not.......well, then I don't I did fall asleep in my office chair last night, like most nights. I will follow up and hopefully prove you so wrong that you post a video crying for forgiveness to be accepted back in to our circle of trust. Hearing Tony say that I may be mistaken has me worried that I may have mistaken your posts for Toeholds... which would warrant 1,000 apologies from me if that's what happened. As far as being pissed that you called me a racist, that will never happen. That is like my wife telling me my dick hurts her. I am in truth not a racist, however I am able to view statistics and averages and come to the conclusion that blacks are more likely to be criminals, Mexican's are more likely to be on the dole, and Asians are more likely to have smarter kids than mine.
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Post by PatSox on Sept 21, 2017 9:34:44 GMT -5
Well, in Kyles defense, he had to sleep. May still be sleeping, as I assume the "norcal" refers to living in California. He's going to be disappointed regardles of when he reads through that thread though It's going to be what I said it would. Me calling out Trump for not delivering on starting the wall, ending ISIS, repealing and replacing Obama Care, and presenting a great new tax plan, like he boasted he would 1,000 times he would do immediately. Me lamenting the fact that only the biased liberal media will call him out on this, which is worthless. And that I really would like it to come from the people that elected him and were lied to.....It's been 10 months now, by the way. There will be mentions of how much I hate bipartisan politics. How much both republicans and democrats are deplorable pieces of shit. How much this Red VS Blue side picking clouds our judgement and distracts us, by pitting us against one another. There will be mentions of bankers running everything. There will be mentions of how Trump's cabinet is rife with bankers and how they made a lot of executive orders that will benefit them and him, for years to come. There will be mentions of how that is not draining the swamp, just like more military spending isn't either, as that just enriches coporations like Lockhead, Raytheon, B.A.E. Systems etc. There will be a lot of civil discourse between he and I, as well as yourself, OC, Baph etc. There will be a lot of Garth calling me a slew of the least clever nicnnames to ever fall out of the front of a swamp boat redneck's half-wit face Kyle, I get why you want to embrarass me. I have accused you of being racist before and that REALLY seemed to bother you. So if I was truly wrong about that, I apologize. If not.......well, then I don't I did fall asleep in my office chair last night, like most nights. I will follow up and hopefully prove you so wrong that you post a video crying for forgiveness to be accepted back in to our circle of trust. Hearing Tony say that I may be mistaken has me worried that I may have mistaken your posts for Toeholds... which would warrant 1,000 apologies from me if that's what happened. As far as being pissed that you called me a racist, that will never happen. That is like my wife telling me my dick hurts her. I am in truth not a racist, however I am able to view statistics and averages and come to the conclusion that blacks are more likely to be criminals, Mexican's are more likely to be on the dole, and Asians are more likely to have smarter kids than mine. 1,000 apologies? No don't do that. That would be even more weird than you wanting to peruse an 82 page thread for hours, or wanting to see me post a video crying for forgiveness to be accepted back in to our circ.........dude, what the fuck? Just typing that out felt ridiculous. What the hell is going on here? You're being really obsessive and weird right now You're wrong about me. Not a huge deal. We don't know each other. We just see things the other types online, occasionally. I wouldn't expect you to really know what I'm about, what I truly think etc. All you can go by is what I say, when I'm not just joking around. And Yet I've done the same with you and others. I've made assumptions and called you out on things I couldn't really know is true. So I'm guilty of it too If anything this has been a lesson on what we think we know. And that can apply to many things
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Post by matt on Sept 21, 2017 10:30:36 GMT -5
Kyle has had ten hours. I'm not one to defend anyone here as all are capable of doing that themselves. However, in defense of Cup- I was on him during the election because I figured he was just another liberal from Massachoochoo. But he explained his position to me and it clarified where he was coming from. He really just dislikes Trump and has disliked him prior to the election. He has more vitriol for the bankers, Rockefellers and Rothschilds of the world, and I can't fault him for that because I don't trust those motherfuckers either. I understand where he is coming from better now, and it is possible that some of his thoughts come off as "liberal" because he is both critical of Trump and surrounded on all sides by blue flag waving morons, as that's Massachoochoo to a T. Possible he hears a lot more stupid liberal shit on a daily basis than most of us hear in a week (aside perhaps from those of you who dwell in SoCal). So he hates the Rockefellers and the NWO but he likes all of their bleeding heart policies and defends all of their selected politicians and simultaneously roots against the only goy who's willing to stand up against them...yet he's not a socialist. Make perfect sense...
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Post by Premier on Sept 21, 2017 10:31:14 GMT -5
Angelo-Jackel, I think you ought to check out the fireman thing. After all, you're already well-versed in dealing with lightning strikes and you have a track record of saving lives.... Imagine being locked up with Angelo in a firehouse on a slow day. Love/Hate affair. He will feed the other guys very well, but all his stories will drive people nuts.
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