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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 12:42:56 GMT -5
Are you in a place with expected damage or evacuations where you are living? I am about a mile away from the ocean in Boca Raton. But I live in a marina that connects to the Florida instracoastal river and to the ocean. Surrounded by water. I didn't hear anything about mandatory evacuations during our last scare (Hurracaine Matthew last year). Not sure if evacuation orders are coming for Irma. My saving grace is that I live in a second floor condo. Keep us updated, and good luck. If you end up looting for fun, make sure you wear a ski mask
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Post by Baph on Sept 6, 2017 13:32:28 GMT -5
Saw some video from some of the outlying islands that looks completely fucking bonkers
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Post by Baph on Sept 6, 2017 13:39:11 GMT -5
Why is the Holocaust the thing? Like . . . the thing?
King Leopold in the Congo likely killed more, maybe up to 4 million more, and mutilated countless more beyond that. Stalin in the Ukraine killed more, maybe up to 1.5 million more, via starvation and execution, and did it in less time. Mao in China may have killed up to a staggering 10x more. Hutu in Rawanda killed up to 1 million Tutsi. In Darfur, Sudan there is on-going strife and a confirmed body count over half-a-million, with incalculabe instances of rape and torture.
Seems like the Holocaust is more like a thing, than the thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 14:29:44 GMT -5
I've wondered this as well. I always wrote it off as the heavily Jewish influenced media. I'm not sure any of the other victims you listed attained the status of where Jewish people have today.
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Post by Angelo on Sept 6, 2017 15:29:24 GMT -5
I think a lot of the panic is because of Harvey and the damage it caused. There is an interesting article I read the other day though about why Florida can actually handle a hurricane better than Texas did, and the flooding wouldn't be as bad. It would be as bad, but Florida has better soil and anti-flood measures to prevent the accumulation as much, and also drain it out faster. www.orlandosentinel.com/weather/hurricane/os-orlando-flood-worst-scenario-20170831-story.htmlI love the blatant nervy posting here. A guy is being asked if he is any danger. And this guy comes in with wiki knowledge. Umm wtf are you talking about? That isn't "wiki knowledge" read the article. At the time I posted it, Florida was only gonna be hit in like 50% of the projections, and most of them had it not being that strong. I was responding to a post asking about expected damage, with something that describes what the damage would be like if it hit with Harvey amounts of rain and strength.
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Post by Angelo on Sept 6, 2017 15:35:13 GMT -5
Why is the Holocaust the thing? Like . . . the thing? King Leopold in the Congo likely killed more, maybe up to 4 million more, and mutilated countless more beyond that. Stalin in the Ukraine killed more, maybe up to 1.5 million more, via starvation and execution, and did it in less time. Mao in China may have killed up to a staggering 10x more. Hutu in Rawanda killed up to 1 million Tutsi. In Darfur, Sudan there is on-going strife and a confirmed body count over half-a-million, with incalculabe instances of rape and torture. Seems like the Holocaust is more like a thing, than the thing. 1. It is the modern and directly affected people still alive today. 2. Still having an impact on various western economies, albeit as of last decade or so only niche markets, mostly art 3. Because westerners only care about things that affect their country, they don't give a fuck about African and Chinese genocides (both of which are still ongoing).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 15:41:46 GMT -5
I love the blatant nervy posting here. A guy is being asked if he is any danger. And this guy comes in with wiki knowledge. Umm wtf are you talking about? That isn't "wiki knowledge" read the article. At the time I posted it, Florida was only gonna be hit in like 50% of the projections, and most of them had it not being that strong. I was responding to a post asking about expected damage, with something that describes what the damage would be like if it hit with Harvey amounts of rain and strength. What im fucking talking about...question wasn't directed at you. You don't live anywhere near the area. You have 0 clue about what is taking place. I don't need to speak for the person it was directed towards but jfc, the nerve and rudeness is near maddening.
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Post by Angelo on Sept 6, 2017 16:33:32 GMT -5
Umm wtf are you talking about? That isn't "wiki knowledge" read the article. At the time I posted it, Florida was only gonna be hit in like 50% of the projections, and most of them had it not being that strong. I was responding to a post asking about expected damage, with something that describes what the damage would be like if it hit with Harvey amounts of rain and strength. What im fucking talking about...question wasn't directed at you. You don't live anywhere near the area. You have 0 clue about what is taking place. I don't need to speak for the person it was directed towards but jfc, the nerve and rudeness is near maddening. By that logic of you are finally admitting that I'm right about the lack of jobs I can get here where I'm living.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 17:32:44 GMT -5
What im fucking talking about...question wasn't directed at you. You don't live anywhere near the area. You have 0 clue about what is taking place. I don't need to speak for the person it was directed towards but jfc, the nerve and rudeness is near maddening. By that logic of you are finally admitting that I'm right about the lack of jobs I can get here where I'm living. Sorry bud, you are noT going to twist this one around. Nope. I never doubted your lack of work ethic. Not a once. Not even a smidgen. Not a millionth of a percent. I know bullshit when I read/see/hear it. But it's not my life. I just offered a hand to help get someone that claimed they had a problem finding work. I found you work. You didn't care to follow up. End of story. Confirmed what I figured was the problem from the beginning. You. Not my problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 17:43:08 GMT -5
If premier dies in this thing I have dibs on that air fryer thing.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Sept 6, 2017 17:55:59 GMT -5
If premier dies in this thing I have dibs on that air fryer thing. Have fun. I got dibs on his coke supplies....wait what???
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Post by ToNoAvail on Sept 6, 2017 18:48:57 GMT -5
It would be funny if his downstairs neighbor lurked here and made an account just to say HEY FUCK BUDDY!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 16:14:18 GMT -5
Daywork... any news on your business in the flood zone?
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Post by Baph on Sept 8, 2017 23:45:56 GMT -5
Grade A zinger re: Dreamers:
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Post by Angelo on Sept 8, 2017 23:52:12 GMT -5
Grade A zinger re: Dreamers: What's pissing me off is that they are now suing Trump over what is essentially making DACA the law of the land rather than a Presidential policy. Like he's turning around and saying, Congress, get off your ass and legalize it finally. This shouldn't be on the President's plate, take care of it, it your job.
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Post by Baph on Sept 8, 2017 23:54:30 GMT -5
The executive branch is not a legislative branch, regardless of how you feel about Dreamers. Change the law or amend the constitution. Trump is doing the right thing. 800,000 Dreamers is a LOT of fucking people pouring in here, and NOBODY thinks that's all of them. The reality is millions and millions.
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Post by Angelo on Sept 8, 2017 23:58:47 GMT -5
The executive branch is not a legislative branch, regardless of how you feel about Dreamers. Change the law or amend the constitution. Trump is doing the right thing. 800,000 Dreamers is a LOT of fucking people pouring in here, and NOBODY thinks that's all of them. The reality is millions and millions. On top of which he's not even saying to get rid of them! He could have just ended DACA right then and there, but he is all but saying "Congress you got 6 months to keep DACA in place". That is more than enough time to get a bill thru, especially since it has the support of the big corporate donors. You know damn well he was on the verge of just keeping DACA is place, but now he kills two birds with one stone. He gets to get the votes for "repealing it" now, and he'll wind up getting the votes later for making congress keep it.
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Post by Baph on Sept 9, 2017 22:10:09 GMT -5
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Post by slaytan on Sept 10, 2017 8:23:15 GMT -5
It's always been like that. When the Weather Underground was blowing up buildings it was righteous indignation. When Black Panthers preach black supremacy and voter intimidation it's moral courage. When 30-40 basement dwellers from South Dakota show up to whine about a Confederate statue, it's WW fucking III over here and how could Trump do this to us? So in other words, it's not "cultural evolution" at all. It was media bullying. It was not free speech, it was controlled information. The media created the reality. Prior to the 1960's the KKK was mainstream and respectable. They hanged negroes? Yup. Rarely. Also they hanged whites, and the victims, whatever color, had to have committed rape or murder to earn that fate (my guess is that they executed innocent men at the same- or lower- rates than the justice system ever has). I have searched in vain for incidents of the KKK ever rounding up a random black person and killing them because "we just hate coloreds." The fact is that the southern towns of old usually had 1 sheriff and 1 deputy. Crime was low, because the citizens activated themselves to preserve tranquility. If Dylan Roof had committed his crime in Charleston circa 1955, the KKK would have hanged him. The KKK was destroyed, not because it was evil, but because it made government unnecessary. Disclaimer: I haven't a drop of southern blood in my veins. It is necessary that I stipulate this fact because the only argument I ever get is "you're an inbred southern hick telling tales he heard on illiterate, toothless paw-paw's knee." Save it. Nowhere in my lineage is confederacy, Jim Crow, KKK, or grits, and whatever inbreeding that occurred would have happened waaaayy up north. I just have this thing about slander
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 8:50:00 GMT -5
That is some straight communist bullshit right there. The ratting out of your neighbor for their thoughts. When have you ever been able to rat out your neighbor, -in this country- because of things that they think? NOT things they do, but things they think? What troubles me the most is that this is happening in Penn Law, which is allegedly one of the top law schools in the country. What the fuck is happening here? Is the class of 2018 at Penn Law coming out into the legal Community with the goal of upholding the Constitution? Or are they coming out with the goal of usurping and changing the Constitution? Because, you know, Lord Garth kind of gave us all a education on this topic. And everyone did laugh at him, including myself. But I'm not fucking laughing anymore. Because this shit lines up with everything that he said. And now you have Putin out there saying that World War 3 is not something to be concerned about but that America should be concerned about their problems with racism and white supremacy. Putin knows damn well that racism and white supremacy are not actually huge problems that this country faces. It seems like there is a shift that is happening in the social consciousness of our country that are detrimental to the institutions of Liberty in this country. I for one am not going to laugh at anything LG says on this topic anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 9:00:03 GMT -5
The problem with policing people's thoughts is that it eventually leads to the kind of totalitarianism that communism relies on to exist in the first place. Let's not forget that just a few months ago a girl was tried 4 telling her boyfriend that he should kill himself. And then he killed himself. And they tried to hold her responsible for it. There is absolutely no question that freedom of speech is under a full-blown assault in this country. And it is being attacked by people who think that they are attacking white supremacists and Nazis. But what they are really attacking is the constitution of this country. Why do they hate the Constitution so much? I bet you they don't hate the Constitution at all. They are most likely just tremendously ignorant of what it says and the Liberties it provides to them. Without the Constitution they would not be able to be out in the streets pulling the bullshit that they are pulling right now. We cannot allow the notion that people should be punished for having incorrect ideas that might hurt someone's feelings to become the accepted Norm. We will all become automatons who only Act in the interest of the party. Straight out of 1984. Punch a Nazi? Sure. Whatever. There's like four hundred of them. Punch a Useful Idiot instead. There are way more of them. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
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Post by Baph on Sept 10, 2017 9:34:32 GMT -5
This modern generation of useful idiots, millennials, has embraced the worst parts of their parent's revolution, the 60s and 70s revolutions -- tired concepts like environmentalism and the therapy and medication culture, but then these dolts reject the best parts of their parent's revolution -- ideas like promoting the content of character over race (replaced by identity politics), true sexual liberation (replaced by rape culture paranoia), unmitigated freedom of speech (replaced by hate speech, safe zones, trigger warnings, and riots). The millennial revolution is literally fucking retarded.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:07:46 GMT -5
Young people who have been directed down the wrong road. They have got a lot of energy to protest things in a very short-sighted manner. And they believe their professors, and teachers who are spewing this absolute garbage about the glories of globalization and socialism.
Then sprinkle in a lot of junk that encourages narcissism, and competing to see who can be the most oppressed and the most victimized.
Never make them read Animal Farm, because they would eventually realize that the concept of " all pigs are created equal, but some pigs are more equal than others" is exactly what is in play with their attempts at silencing ideas that they disagree with.
I was talking to my wife this morning about this new trend of trying to silence people that you disagree with by calling them names and insulting them. She mentioned how I seem more inclined to get into it with people who engage in those tactics. And wondered why I really didn't care when they would call me various names. My response was a pretty simple explanation.
I've spent more than 20 years in the trenches of MMA message boards. There is not a single thing that some social justice Warrior can say to me that can make me bat an eyelash. I've had strangers calling me names since I was 18 years old. The quickness that they come to judgment of a person also gives you an idea of how quickly they can be convinced something that is not true, is actually true. Why would anyone care what a simpleton thinks of them?
But most people are going to recoil the moment they find their ideas inspiring such venomous responses. Fortunately, in the real world we still have one thing going for us. Most of us still recognize that the loudest person in an argument usually has the least to say of value.
I was at a party last night that consisted entirely of Trump supporters. Every single one of them said they have gone silent on the matter because even suggesting that you support Trump gets you called a white supremacist. All the name calling seems to have accomplished amongst that group of people is strengthened their resolve to make sure they vote for Trump again in the next election.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:30:18 GMT -5
I have found the same thing with friends that voted for Trump. They don't talk about it. And when someone spouts the "bernie this and that", most just smile.
My girl and I have lost friendships over this subject. We have to question how strong that friendship was to begin with, as we have plenty of friends that label themselves "progressives" and we've just come to agree to disagree, while continuing to enjoy each other's company and comradery.
Speaking of labels...everyone so quick to put a label on themselves these days. Remember when the fight was about not wanting to be constricted by labels?
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Post by PatSox on Sept 10, 2017 14:01:57 GMT -5
I have found the same thing with friends that voted for Trump. They don't talk about it. And when someone spouts the "bernie this and that", most just smile. My girl and I have lost friendships over this subject. We have to question how strong that friendship was to begin with, as we have plenty of friends that label themselves "progressives" and we've just come to agree to disagree, while continuing to enjoy each other's company and comradery. Speaking of labels...everyone so quick to put a label on themselves these days. Remember when the fight was about not wanting to be constricted by labels? That's like losing friends over horseshit, dogshit or bullshit. Which is better?
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Post by Baph on Sept 10, 2017 14:32:46 GMT -5
Absolutely. The whole point of the counter culture movement in the 60s and 70s was that race didn't matter, gender didn't matter, class didn't matter, the character of the individual mattered, and we opposed the big institutions and free speech was sacred above all else.
What the FUCK happened to the left? This was literally your primary philosophical aim just a few decades ago. Complete 180.
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Post by Angelo on Sept 10, 2017 14:45:56 GMT -5
I have found the same thing with friends that voted for Trump. They don't talk about it. And when someone spouts the "bernie this and that", most just smile. My girl and I have lost friendships over this subject. We have to question how strong that friendship was to begin with, as we have plenty of friends that label themselves "progressives" and we've just come to agree to disagree, while continuing to enjoy each other's company and comradery. Speaking of labels...everyone so quick to put a label on themselves these days. Remember when the fight was about not wanting to be constricted by labels? That's like losing friends over horseshit, dogshit or bullshit. Which is better? And dogshit is 0.7% Nitrogen, 0.25% Phosphorous, 0.02% Potassium. The downside of Dogshit though is it is loaded with other things that make is inefficient for compost, so I'd stick with Horseshit unless you got some Sheep running around.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 16:32:57 GMT -5
I have found the same thing with friends that voted for Trump. They don't talk about it. And when someone spouts the "bernie this and that", most just smile. My girl and I have lost friendships over this subject. We have to question how strong that friendship was to begin with, as we have plenty of friends that label themselves "progressives" and we've just come to agree to disagree, while continuing to enjoy each other's company and comradery. Speaking of labels...everyone so quick to put a label on themselves these days. Remember when the fight was about not wanting to be constricted by labels? That's like losing friends over horseshit, dogshit or bullshit. Which is better? Im gonna go with bullshit, it makes a better fertilizer imo. But yeah, lot's of people got really goofy over this. On ALL sides.
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Post by Baph on Sept 10, 2017 17:16:54 GMT -5
Gavin McInnes did a short video over the amount of long time friends he lost over his support of Trump, and it was pretty fucking depressing, actually. Particularly when he'd explain that his Trump support was actually mostly a morbid fear of what Hitlary might do with that level of power. Doesn't matter. Trump is Hitler and our kids can't hang out anymore. Jesus.
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Post by slaytan on Sept 10, 2017 17:20:26 GMT -5
Absolutely. The whole point of the counter culture movement in the 60s and 70s was that race didn't matter, gender didn't matter, class didn't matter, the character of the individual mattered, and we opposed the big institutions and free speech was sacred above all else. What the FUCK happened to the left? This was literally your primary philosophical aim just a few decades ago. Complete 180. What the fuck happened is that the average person has access to information that he didn't before. The left has not changed, they were just as bad during their sanctified years as they are now. The noble civil rights heroes were the same as antifa, only WORSE because the citizens of Birmingham and Selma had no cell phone cameras. Don't you see how the media attempted to tell the story of antifa? What do you think that coverage would look like if nobody but them had cameras on scene? In 1963 they had total, complete, 100% lockdown on information. Soviet Union style (because that's where it was engineered) We are as misinformed about the last century's history as the citizens of North Korea. No different, and to the same degree. Martin Luther King is a dumber, more disgusting, more despicable, less charismatic version of Al Sharpton. And yet, he is on a pedestal ABOVE Jesus, even to most Christians. MLK is just one example I throw out there, there are others. Now -perhaps temporarily- we at least can get fairly accurate information about the present (but we do have to seek it), but for some reason it hasn't caused anyone to begin questioning the old lies. Now that it can be verified, we see that CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, et al lie about fucking everything... and we look back and thank our lucky stars that they always told the truth back when nobody was checking.
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