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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 1:04:53 GMT -5
I just read some news article that I found funny. I found it funny because how much California hates Trump (or so it seems), they hate the idea of Trump building a wall to keep Mexicans out. Well ... San Jose Built a taller and stronger fence to keep the homeless out. Read about this yesterday... and of course you have a group of people saying how unfair it is to keep homeless from staying on private property, leaving used needles all over, shitting and pissing in public, littering and stealing. I heard one comparison to trumps wall with the idea that it is mean spirited to put the fence up. Maybe the bleeding hearts should all adopt a few and let them camp out in their backyards |
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Post by Baph on Jun 21, 2017 1:07:00 GMT -5
I see the new battle cry for the feminist and SJWs is that Gal Gadot got paid 300 k for Wonder Woman compared to Henry Cavill making 13 million off Superman. Nevermind she is an unknown and this is her first real mega blockbuster. These were the same crybabies that said it wasn't fair that Jennifer Lawrence made less than Bradley Cooper on the Silver Lining Playbook. However, after Jennifer become megastar off The Hunger Games and is worth more than Bradley Cooper, there are crickets. Funny how the free market is only oppressive when it works for your narrative. Not to mention they are comparing Gadot's first contract to after Henry got bonuses and everything else once Superman was a blockbuster. Most people are calling the people crying about this out on it. Gal's contract, like pretty much everyone else in the superhero and potential franchise movies was set at escalating pay. She's actually in line for more than Cavil in future movies. Have noted this as well. There seems to be a bit of a . . . . market correction, if you will . . . in the sense that blindly screaming racist, sexist, bigot isn't NEARLY as effective and bulletproof as it was say, 2-3 years ago. People are getting challenged, called out, effectively rebutted and the wrongfully accused are keeping their jobs and sponsorship and finding allies where that was absolutely NOT the case in years past. Maybe a bit of the Milo effect. Social justice has seriously jumped the shark in the past 18 months and we're starting to see a turning of this cultural tied. |
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Post by Baph on Jun 21, 2017 1:10:31 GMT -5
I just read some news article that I found funny. I found it funny because how much California hates Trump (or so it seems), they hate the idea of Trump building a wall to keep Mexicans out. Well ... San Jose Built a taller and stronger fence to keep the homeless out. Read about this yesterday... and of course you have a group of people saying how unfair it is to keep homeless from staying on private property, leaving used needles all over, shitting and pissing in public, littering and stealing. I heard one comparison to trumps wall with the idea that it is mean spirited to put the fence up. Maybe the bleeding hearts should all adopt a few and let them camp out in their backyards When I was in super enlightened and tolerant Europe there were a lot of public places that charged small fees to use the restrooms. I asked why and was told this was to keep homeless junkies out of public facilities. It is interesting how open borders and refugees and homelessness are SUUUUUPER important issues, except when it inconveniences the liberal elite in some minor way, and then it's "tek er jebs" and "buld teh wolll" right along with us degenerate red necks. |
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Post by Baph on Jun 21, 2017 1:57:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 7:40:11 GMT -5
It's nice to wake up with a laugh. Today's laugh came from these special Congressional elections that the mainstream media says is a referendum on Trump.
They've been saying it for months now. Some 30 year old little hipster looking douchebag Democrat was trying to take a historically Republican seat in Congress down in Georgia. And there were three other elections that were also a result of Trump appointing Congress people to positions within his administration.
The media put a lot of their own weight Behind These elections and made it seem almost like the presidential election. They made it seem like the Republicans did not stand a chance.
Fortunately for my own sanity, it turns out that being associated with lunatics who riot in the streets and break windows and hit people with bike locks and act like cowardly little faggots... still doesn't win you elections. GOP went 4 and 0 in these special elections.
So I hope the Democrats are listening. Because yesterday the United States once again said to that retarded party: Fuck. You.
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Post by PatSox on Jun 21, 2017 7:46:12 GMT -5
It's nice to wake up with a laugh. Today's laugh came from these special Congressional elections that the mainstream media says is a referendum on Trump. They've been saying it for months now. Some 30 year old little hipster looking douchebag Democrat was trying to take a historically Republican seat in Congress down in Georgia. And there were three other elections that were also a result of Trump appointing Congress people to positions within his administration. The media put a lot of their own weight Behind These elections and made it seem almost like the presidential election. They made it seem like the Republicans did not stand a chance. Fortunately for my own sanity, it turns out that being associated with lunatics who riot in the streets and break windows and hit people with bike locks and act like cowardly little faggots... still doesn't win you elections. GOP went 4 and 0 in these special elections. So I hope the Democrats are listening. Because yesterday the United States once again said to that retarded party: Fuck. You. I noticed the stories about that this past week. The way the headlines read it was as if the democrats had already won. They still haven't learned, have they? And I can't imagine why they thought, with the way things are right now, that they had a chance of winning in a state like Georgia. Unless you can suddenly get all the black and hispanics in the Atlanta area to suddenly give a shit, and bother to go cast a vote, you're not winning a state like that |
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Post by PatSox on Jun 21, 2017 7:51:34 GMT -5
Minnesota cops can give up on expecting people to tell them whether they're armed or not, after that tragic bullshit That cop did get manslaughter, if I remember. Right? |
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Post by ocmmafan on Jun 21, 2017 10:05:36 GMT -5
Minnesota cops can give up on expecting people to tell them whether they're armed or not, after that tragic bullshit That cop did get manslaughter, if I remember. Right? No, he didn't. He was acquitted of any and all charges. I agree this one is hard to figure and it should be fairly routine that someone with a right to carry notifies the police they have a weapon. The wrinkle here is the deceased let the cop know he had the gun in his pocket during the same time he was being told to hand over his licence, which was also in his pocket. The quick re-read of the evidence and the testimony of the girlfriend definitely suggest the cop freaked out and shot him without cause. He informs him he had a weapon and then the cop lost it and fired off 7 rounds. Not sure how the jury acquitted. BTW - Cop was hispanic, judge black and prosecutor Asian, yet I see an article on this about white privilege. www.tcdailyplanet.net/the-rare-indictment-of-jeronimo-yanez-proves-white-privilege-exists-and-protects-white-cops/ |
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Post by Baph on Jun 21, 2017 10:45:22 GMT -5
Unfortunately the social justice zealotry has made it to where we occasionally have to wade through this white privilege, systemic racism shit in order to really unpeel an issue, and this is one of those cases. This isn't a racist cop and a racist judge lynching a black man in the streets, you fucking neurotic marxist fucks. But . . . BUT . . . it is a serious case of excessive and unnecessary deadly force within 2-3' of a child, and SEVEN fucking rounds followed by this crazed, panicked screaming for several minutes. Regardless of the manslaughter charges, anyone has to conclude that this officer has no composure, professionalism, or emotional maturity, and has zero fucking business wielding a gun. How he got off on all these charges is beyond me.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jun 21, 2017 11:30:19 GMT -5
Read through this thread and honestly and rationally say this world isnt completely upside down?? You fucking cant!!!
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Post by Canuklehead on Jun 21, 2017 11:53:51 GMT -5
Minnesota cops can give up on expecting people to tell them whether they're armed or not, after that tragic bullshit That cop did get manslaughter, if I remember. Right? No, he didn't. He was acquitted of any and all charges. I agree this one is hard to figure and it should be fairly routine that someone with a right to carry notifies the police they have a weapon. The wrinkle here is the deceased let the cop know he had the gun in his pocket during the same time he was being told to hand over his licence, which was also in his pocket. The quick re-read of the evidence and the testimony of the girlfriend definitely suggest the cop freaked out and shot him without cause. He informs him he had a weapon and then the cop lost it and fired off 7 rounds. Not sure how the jury acquitted. BTW - Cop was hispanic, judge black and prosecutor Asian, yet I see an article on this about white privilege. www.tcdailyplanet.net/the-rare-indictment-of-jeronimo-yanez-proves-white-privilege-exists-and-protects-white-cops/There is so much wtf in that article I just couldn't take it. Unreal |
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Post by ocmmafan on Jun 21, 2017 12:13:37 GMT -5
Unfortunately the social justice zealotry has made it to where we occasionally have to wade through this white privilege, systemic racism shit in order to really unpeel an issue, and this is one of those cases. This isn't a racist cop and a racist judge lynching a black man in the streets, you fucking neurotic marxist fucks. But . . . BUT . . . it is a serious case of excessive and unnecessary deadly force within 2-3' of a child, and SEVEN fucking rounds followed by this crazed, panicked screaming for several minutes. Regardless of the manslaughter charges, anyone has to conclude that this officer has no composure, professionalism, or emotional maturity, and has zero fucking business wielding a gun. How he got off on all these charges is beyond me. Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 12:22:57 GMT -5
Articles like that literally upset me to the core. I don't know what it is, maybe I take shit too personal, but man do those bother me.
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Post by PatSox on Jun 21, 2017 12:45:13 GMT -5
Minnesota cops can give up on expecting people to tell them whether they're armed or not, after that tragic bullshit That cop did get manslaughter, if I remember. Right? No, he didn't. He was acquitted of any and all charges. I agree this one is hard to figure and it should be fairly routine that someone with a right to carry notifies the police they have a weapon. The wrinkle here is the deceased let the cop know he had the gun in his pocket during the same time he was being told to hand over his licence, which was also in his pocket. The quick re-read of the evidence and the testimony of the girlfriend definitely suggest the cop freaked out and shot him without cause. He informs him he had a weapon and then the cop lost it and fired off 7 rounds. Not sure how the jury acquitted. BTW - Cop was hispanic, judge black and prosecutor Asian, yet I see an article on this about white privilege. www.tcdailyplanet.net/the-rare-indictment-of-jeronimo-yanez-proves-white-privilege-exists-and-protects-white-cops/Hahah....awesome |
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Post by PatSox on Jun 21, 2017 12:49:24 GMT -5
Read through this thread and honestly and rationally say this world isnt completely upside down?? You fucking cant!!! Half of it never is....which half is a matter of perspective......or viewing angle |
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Post by Baph on Jun 21, 2017 15:31:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately the social justice zealotry has made it to where we occasionally have to wade through this white privilege, systemic racism shit in order to really unpeel an issue, and this is one of those cases. This isn't a racist cop and a racist judge lynching a black man in the streets, you fucking neurotic marxist fucks. But . . . BUT . . . it is a serious case of excessive and unnecessary deadly force within 2-3' of a child, and SEVEN fucking rounds followed by this crazed, panicked screaming for several minutes. Regardless of the manslaughter charges, anyone has to conclude that this officer has no composure, professionalism, or emotional maturity, and has zero fucking business wielding a gun. How he got off on all these charges is beyond me. Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. I don't care how good the attorney is . . . shooting a man SEVEN times and then repetitively screaming and ranting like a panic monkey makes you look very, very much like a spaz that is out of control and has no business with a gun. Like you said, unless there's something I don't know about, that looks a LOT like murder and the dept that put that nut job, jumpy, volatile freak out on patrol with a loaded weapon ought to be liable as well. EVERYthing about this just screams mentally unstable guy with a gun who can't handle his job fucked up and killed the ever-loving FUCK out of a guy who was fiddling for his wallet. |
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Post by Angelo on Jun 21, 2017 15:51:35 GMT -5
Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. Here is his transcript www.ramseycounty.us/sites/default/files/County%20Attorney/Yanez%20BCA%20Interview%20Transcript%207.7.16.pdfHuffington cherry picked a 5 questions/statements from it they claimed were "disturbing". 1. Investigator: “From the time he mentioned to you that he had a firearm, weapon, um, what was the timeline? Did he immediately announce that at start ...?” Yanez: “I can’t remember if he immediate announced it but it caught my attention right away and it seemed like it was split-second from the time he told me to the time he was reaching down, to the time I gave him direction, to the time he had the his hand wrapped around it and then I gave him more direction and shots were fired.” 2. Yanez: “He dropped his hand down and, can’t remember what I was telling him but I was telling something as his hand went down I think. And, he put his hand around something. And his hand made like a C shape type, um, type shape and it appeared to me that he was wrapping something around his fingers and almost like if I were to put my uh hand around my gun like putting my hand up to the butt of the gun. “And then I lost view of it. Cuz he kept canting his shoulder and then I believe told him again I can’t remember don’t do it. And then he still kept moving his hand and at this point I looked and saw something in his hand. It was dark inside the vehicle, I was trying to fumble my way through under stress to look and see what it was to make sure uh what I was seeing. But I wasn’t given enough time and like I said he had no regard for what I was saying. Didn’t follow my direction. And, uh he started reaching out and then pulling uh away from his uh his right thigh. I don’t know if it was in his pocket or in between the seats or the center console. But I, I know he had an object and it was dark. And he was pulling it out with his right hand. And as he was pulling it out, a million things started going through my head. And I thought I was gonna die.” 3. Yanez: “As I get up to the car I’m hit with an odor of burning marijuana .... And I know it’s already been smoked and I’ve been around uh through my training I’ve been around burnt marijuana and uh as a police officer I’ve been around burnt marijuana and uh fresh marijuana. So I know the distinct smells between both. “I can’t remember if I asked for his ID or not but, I know I asked for his ID or his driver’s license. And then he goes I have a gun. And as I’m telling him or as he’s telling me that he’s reaching down between his right leg, his right thigh area and the center console. And he’s reaching down and I believe I’m telling him something along the lines of don’t reach for it, don’t do it. Referring to the, uh the firearm. Yep. Because usually people that carry firearms carry ’em on their waistband. Um and or in between the seats and being that the vehicle smelled the inside of the vehicle smelled like marijuana um I didn’t know if he was keeping it on him for protection, for, from a, a drug dealer or anything like that or any other people trying to rip him. Rip him meaning steal from him.” 4. Investigator: “Do you remember what you pulled ’em over for?” Yanez: “I was keeping my eye on 2424 Larpenteur which is a convenience store on Larpenteur at the intersection of Larpenteur and Eustice. It’s on the southwest comer of the intersection. Um, I wanted to pay attention to that because we had a strong armed robbery last week uh which involved two African American males um, one having a firearm and pointing it at the clerk and then the other uh the victim to!d me that he also had a firearm but I wasn’t ab!e to see it when the video was reviewed. Um, so I was sitting at a intersection and I see a white vehicle. I can’t remember what kind of vehicle it was. Um but I see two occupants. What I believed was two occupants inside the car. And I couldn’t make out the passenger. But I knew the passenger had a hat on. And I couldn’t make out if it was a guy or girl I just knew that they were both African American and the driver uh appeared to me that he appeared to match the uh physical description of the one of our suspects from the strong arm robbery, gunpoint.” Investigator: “What is that description?” Yanez: “Um it was a (sigh) I can’t remember the height, weight but I remember that it was, the male had dreadlocks around shoulder length. Or longer hair around shoulder length. And, um it wasn’t specified if it was corn rows or dreadlocks or straight hair. Um and then just kind of distinct facial features with like, a kind of like a wide set nose and uh I saw that in the driver of the vehicle.”
5. Investigator: “Where is the little girl seated?” Yanez: “She was seated behind, directly behind the front seat passenger. But diagonal, uh, from where I was standing. Um, so basically behind the driver. And then, so...” Investigator: “Behind the driver or the passenger?” Yanez: “So if I’m facing the driver she was, she was diagonal from him. Behind the backseat or front seat passenger. So she was in my line of fire. Um, but I made sure that I directed my firearm down and as best as I could and let off rounds and as the rounds were going off I thought he was still moving for his gun and (sigh) I it just seemed like he was pulling out the gun and the barrel just kept coming. It seemed like something was just coming out and I thought it was a gun ... “I don’t remember how many rounds I let off. Um I remember seeing the last two rounds go off and I remember seeing one of those rounds hit him in the arm. Uh his glasses flew off. I’m not sure if it was from gunfire or from him uh whipping his head back or anything like that. Uh but uh as that was happening as he was pulling at, out his hand I thought, I was gonna die and i thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five year old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me. And, I let off the rounds and then after the rounds were off, the little girls was screaming, I held the suspect at gunpoint. His arms came up into view. And they were up by his chest I can’t remember what I said. But I acknowledged this little girl first. Cuz i wanted her to be safe.” |
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Post by PatSox on Jun 21, 2017 17:29:32 GMT -5
Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. I don't care how good the attorney is . . . shooting a man SEVEN times and then repetitively screaming and ranting like a panic monkey makes you look very, very much like a spaz that is out of control and has no business with a gun. Like you said, unless there's something I don't know about, that looks a LOT like murder and the dept that put that nut job, jumpy, volatile freak out on patrol with a loaded weapon ought to be liable as well. EVERYthing about this just screams mentally unstable guy with a gun who can't handle his job fucked up and killed the ever-loving FUCK out of a guy who was fiddling for his wallet.  |
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Post by slaytan on Jun 21, 2017 19:33:22 GMT -5
Unfortunately the social justice zealotry has made it to where we occasionally have to wade through this white privilege, systemic racism shit in order to really unpeel an issue, and this is one of those cases. This isn't a racist cop and a racist judge lynching a black man in the streets, you fucking neurotic marxist fucks. But . . . BUT . . . it is a serious case of excessive and unnecessary deadly force within 2-3' of a child, and SEVEN fucking rounds followed by this crazed, panicked screaming for several minutes. Regardless of the manslaughter charges, anyone has to conclude that this officer has no composure, professionalism, or emotional maturity, and has zero fucking business wielding a gun. How he got off on all these charges is beyond me. Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. Cop thought the dude was an armed robbery suspect. He was totally edgy. That's the whole story. A tragic, egregious, yet eminently human and understandable, mistake. Not indicative of any systemic failure or any sort of greater problem. Philando and his bitch/whore/monkeyass girlfriend were pissed at being pulled over, not paranoid because they weren't up to no good, and gave the cop bad, huffy nonverbals which the cop misread. My verdict: the cop deserves no legal sanctions. Perhaps not fit for street duty (especially after this experience), but any one of us on the wrong day might also fuck up. Sorry for Philando, but I guaran fu king tee that wouldn't have happened to me, and he was a dumb ass. |
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Post by matt on Jun 21, 2017 19:44:51 GMT -5
Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. Cop thought the dude was an armed robbery suspect. He was totally edgy. That's the whole story. A tragic, egregious, yet eminently human and understandable, mistake. Not indicative of any systemic failure or any sort of greater problem. Philando and his bitch/whore/monkeyass girlfriend were pissed at being pulled over, not paranoid because they weren't up to no good, and gave the cop bad, huffy nonverbals which the cop misread. My verdict: the cop deserves no legal sanctions. Perhaps not fit for street duty (especially after this experience), but any one of us on the wrong day might also fuck up. Sorry for Philando, but I guaran fu king tee that wouldn't have happened to me, and he was a dumb ass. In baseball officiating, they call this the "human element." |
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Post by PatSox on Jun 21, 2017 20:53:56 GMT -5
Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. Cop thought the dude was an armed robbery suspect. He was totally edgy. That's the whole story. A tragic, egregious, yet eminently human and understandable, mistake. Not indicative of any systemic failure or any sort of greater problem. Philando and his bitch/whore/monkeyass girlfriend were pissed at being pulled over, not paranoid because they weren't up to no good, and gave the cop bad, huffy nonverbals which the cop misread. My verdict: the cop deserves no legal sanctions. Perhaps not fit for street duty (especially after this experience), but any one of us on the wrong day might also fuck up. Sorry for Philando, but I guaran fu king tee that wouldn't have happened to me, and he was a dumb ass. ....white privilege? |
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Post by Baph on Jun 21, 2017 22:10:16 GMT -5
Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. Cop thought the dude was an armed robbery suspect. He was totally edgy. That's the whole story. A tragic, egregious, yet eminently human and understandable, mistake. Not indicative of any systemic failure or any sort of greater problem. Philando and his bitch/whore/monkeyass girlfriend were pissed at being pulled over, not paranoid because they weren't up to no good, and gave the cop bad, huffy nonverbals which the cop misread. My verdict: the cop deserves no legal sanctions. Perhaps not fit for street duty (especially after this experience), but any one of us on the wrong day might also fuck up. Sorry for Philando, but I guaran fu king tee that wouldn't have happened to me, and he was a dumb ass. I don't find that even remotely compelling. Even if that is the story, the dude completely, embarrassingly, like a woman when a mouse runs across the floor, lost his shit and screamed into the window making a public spectacle out of himself for minutes afterward. It was a total mental/emotional break-down, pure and simple. He also did in SEVEN shots what he could have done in two. He fucking lost it. Inches away from a woman and child. And then lost it six more times until the magazine was empty. I'm surprised this fucking spaz didn't reload and go 20 rounds on this guy. Jesus. If that's the kind of judgment and composure you bring to the table, you can't be a gun-wielding cop, end of story. You can't function with composure and professionalism in life/death situations, clearly. By far the best witness for the prosecution was this dipshit panic monkey screaming like the queer on Fear Factor with his head in a cockroach tank. Shrill screaming for two minutes by a grown man is the judge, jury, and executioner on this chump. And being on edge because the guy with his family and small child just calmly told you he had a firearm makes no sense. I need some more information, a body cam, something powerful to convince me this wasn't a dufas, incompetent cop in over his head, paranoid, basically a time bomb out patrolling the streets who was going to shoot someone, sooner or later, for making a weird move or having a shitty attitude. That's unacceptable. |
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Post by slaytan on Jun 22, 2017 2:59:43 GMT -5
Cop thought the dude was an armed robbery suspect. He was totally edgy. That's the whole story. A tragic, egregious, yet eminently human and understandable, mistake. Not indicative of any systemic failure or any sort of greater problem. Philando and his bitch/whore/monkeyass girlfriend were pissed at being pulled over, not paranoid because they weren't up to no good, and gave the cop bad, huffy nonverbals which the cop misread. My verdict: the cop deserves no legal sanctions. Perhaps not fit for street duty (especially after this experience), but any one of us on the wrong day might also fuck up. Sorry for Philando, but I guaran fu king tee that wouldn't have happened to me, and he was a dumb ass. I don't find that even remotely compelling. Even if that is the story, the dude completely, embarrassingly, like a woman when a mouse runs across the floor, lost his shit and screamed into the window making a public spectacle out of himself for minutes afterward. It was a total mental/emotional break-down, pure and simple. He also did in SEVEN shots what he could have done in two. He fucking lost it. Inches away from a woman and child. And then lost it six more times until the magazine was empty. I'm surprised this fucking spaz didn't reload and go 20 rounds on this guy. Jesus. If that's the kind of judgment and composure you bring to the table, you can't be a gun-wielding cop, end of story. You can't function with composure and professionalism in life/death situations, clearly. By far the best witness for the prosecution was this dipshit panic monkey screaming like the queer on Fear Factor with his head in a cockroach tank. Shrill screaming for two minutes by a grown man is the judge, jury, and executioner on this chump. And being on edge because the guy with his family and small child just calmly told you he had a firearm makes no sense. I need some more information, a body cam, something powerful to convince me this wasn't a dufas, incompetent cop in over his head, paranoid, basically a time bomb out patrolling the streets who was going to shoot someone, sooner or later, for making a weird move or having a shitty attitude. That's unacceptable. Unacceptable, I agree. Fire him and curse his memory at the department. But don't convict him of murder, because it wasn't one. And to patsux: yes my white privilege would have saved me in a few different ways, one of which is the extra IQ points afforded me over someone named "philando." When someone named "Philando" meets someone named "Jeronimo" and tragedy ensues, it should not reflect on Danny and Ryan. |
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Post by jamesod on Jun 22, 2017 7:42:55 GMT -5
Agree. Any traffic cop MUST encounter situations where the person advises they have a weapon. It's routine. I want to find the claims of the cop because I must be missing the piece the jury used to acquit. Did he say this guy reached in his pocket after he told him not to and he saw a weapon? There must be something we are missing or the jury was duped by a superior defense attorney that argued well. Here is his transcript www.ramseycounty.us/sites/default/files/County%20Attorney/Yanez%20BCA%20Interview%20Transcript%207.7.16.pdfHuffington cherry picked a 5 questions/statements from it they claimed were "disturbing". 1. Investigator: “From the time he mentioned to you that he had a firearm, weapon, um, what was the timeline? Did he immediately announce that at start ...?” Yanez: “I can’t remember if he immediate announced it but it caught my attention right away and it seemed like it was split-second from the time he told me to the time he was reaching down, to the time I gave him direction, to the time he had the his hand wrapped around it and then I gave him more direction and shots were fired.” 2. Yanez: “He dropped his hand down and, can’t remember what I was telling him but I was telling something as his hand went down I think. And, he put his hand around something. And his hand made like a C shape type, um, type shape and it appeared to me that he was wrapping something around his fingers and almost like if I were to put my uh hand around my gun like putting my hand up to the butt of the gun. “And then I lost view of it. Cuz he kept canting his shoulder and then I believe told him again I can’t remember don’t do it. And then he still kept moving his hand and at this point I looked and saw something in his hand. It was dark inside the vehicle, I was trying to fumble my way through under stress to look and see what it was to make sure uh what I was seeing. But I wasn’t given enough time and like I said he had no regard for what I was saying. Didn’t follow my direction. And, uh he started reaching out and then pulling uh away from his uh his right thigh. I don’t know if it was in his pocket or in between the seats or the center console. But I, I know he had an object and it was dark. And he was pulling it out with his right hand. And as he was pulling it out, a million things started going through my head. And I thought I was gonna die.” 3. Yanez: “As I get up to the car I’m hit with an odor of burning marijuana .... And I know it’s already been smoked and I’ve been around uh through my training I’ve been around burnt marijuana and uh as a police officer I’ve been around burnt marijuana and uh fresh marijuana. So I know the distinct smells between both. “I can’t remember if I asked for his ID or not but, I know I asked for his ID or his driver’s license. And then he goes I have a gun. And as I’m telling him or as he’s telling me that he’s reaching down between his right leg, his right thigh area and the center console. And he’s reaching down and I believe I’m telling him something along the lines of don’t reach for it, don’t do it. Referring to the, uh the firearm. Yep. Because usually people that carry firearms carry ’em on their waistband. Um and or in between the seats and being that the vehicle smelled the inside of the vehicle smelled like marijuana um I didn’t know if he was keeping it on him for protection, for, from a, a drug dealer or anything like that or any other people trying to rip him. Rip him meaning steal from him.” 4. Investigator: “Do you remember what you pulled ’em over for?” Yanez: “I was keeping my eye on 2424 Larpenteur which is a convenience store on Larpenteur at the intersection of Larpenteur and Eustice. It’s on the southwest comer of the intersection. Um, I wanted to pay attention to that because we had a strong armed robbery last week uh which involved two African American males um, one having a firearm and pointing it at the clerk and then the other uh the victim to!d me that he also had a firearm but I wasn’t ab!e to see it when the video was reviewed. Um, so I was sitting at a intersection and I see a white vehicle. I can’t remember what kind of vehicle it was. Um but I see two occupants. What I believed was two occupants inside the car. And I couldn’t make out the passenger. But I knew the passenger had a hat on. And I couldn’t make out if it was a guy or girl I just knew that they were both African American and the driver uh appeared to me that he appeared to match the uh physical description of the one of our suspects from the strong arm robbery, gunpoint.” Investigator: “What is that description?” Yanez: “Um it was a (sigh) I can’t remember the height, weight but I remember that it was, the male had dreadlocks around shoulder length. Or longer hair around shoulder length. And, um it wasn’t specified if it was corn rows or dreadlocks or straight hair. Um and then just kind of distinct facial features with like, a kind of like a wide set nose and uh I saw that in the driver of the vehicle.”
5. Investigator: “Where is the little girl seated?” Yanez: “She was seated behind, directly behind the front seat passenger. But diagonal, uh, from where I was standing. Um, so basically behind the driver. And then, so...” Investigator: “Behind the driver or the passenger?” Yanez: “So if I’m facing the driver she was, she was diagonal from him. Behind the backseat or front seat passenger. So she was in my line of fire. Um, but I made sure that I directed my firearm down and as best as I could and let off rounds and as the rounds were going off I thought he was still moving for his gun and (sigh) I it just seemed like he was pulling out the gun and the barrel just kept coming. It seemed like something was just coming out and I thought it was a gun ... “I don’t remember how many rounds I let off. Um I remember seeing the last two rounds go off and I remember seeing one of those rounds hit him in the arm. Uh his glasses flew off. I’m not sure if it was from gunfire or from him uh whipping his head back or anything like that. Uh but uh as that was happening as he was pulling at, out his hand I thought, I was gonna die and i thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five year old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me. And, I let off the rounds and then after the rounds were off, the little girls was screaming, I held the suspect at gunpoint. His arms came up into view. And they were up by his chest I can’t remember what I said. But I acknowledged this little girl first. Cuz i wanted her to be safe.” First, credit where it's due. Jackel made a useful post. Second, this guy's story (not surprisingly) makes zero sense. He is freaked out over an armed robbery that happened a week prior involving two black guys. So, he sees a car near that convenience store that has one black guy in it and one person he couldn't see well enough to even tell whether it's a man or a woman. Time to pull the car over. Why? Because, while he couldn't see the passenger well enough to even identify sex, he could see the driver so well that he knew the driver matched the description of one of the armed robbers. And what description was that? "Black guy." What else? "I don't remember height or weight, but definitely shoulder length dreads. Well, maybe not dreads. Maybe corn rows. Definitely corn rows or dreads. Or straight hair. Maybe straight hair. The description was a black guy with dreads, corn rows, or straight hair. And a wide nose. I pulled him over because he had a wide nose." The story just gets worse from there. No way this guy should ever have been a cop. It would be comical how ridiculous his story was if someone didn't die from this guy's incompetence. This is nuts: "I thought, I was gonna die and i thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five year old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me. And, I let off the rounds and then after the rounds were off, the little girls was screaming" |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 8:25:20 GMT -5
Part of the problem with these rampant police shootings is a low level of expectation during the hiring process. You can Google stories about how lax certain departments get when the time comes to hire new officers.
I read this article yesterday about this female police officer who was on the job with a gun a taser and a baton for I think it was a year or two before the department discovered that her previous job was: Dominatrix.
And when they discovered that she lied on her application, she was not fired. She was reassigned to desk duty.
Maybe it wasn't like this for the rest of you guys but when I was a kid just about all of my friends wanted to be one of three things. Astronaut. Firefighter. Or cop.
So far not a single one of them has become any of those things. The desire to actually be a police officer seems to be kind of a rare one in adults. Police departments will tell you that people become police officers because they want to help their community. But there's another side to that job that doesn't get talked about. It's the power. And the power that comes along with being a police officer makes it so (that according to a few studies) the position of police officer has more individuals who could be diagnosed as psychotic within their ranks.
Knowing this, and driving the kind of car that I drive ( which makes it so I have a bit more interaction with law enforcement than your average Joe in a Ford Fusion) and also knowing that there is a handgun in the glove box and a shotgun in the trunk- every time the officer asks me if I have any weapons in the car- I put my hands at the 10 and 2 o clock position on my steering wheel and then inform them of every weapon in the vehicle. That is not the time to be reaching for anything. Not your wallet not your driver's license not your insurance and not your registration.
What will usually happen with me after I have informed them of the weapons in my vehicle, is they take me out of the car and handle our discussion on the side of the road. And the only correct answer for why you have those guns is "To defend myself when the police cannot."
Police officers do not get paid very well. They get more bullshit on a daily basis than any of us do. They deal with people at their worst all the time. Throw on top of that the police officer himself might actually be a psychotic individual and what you are left with is most certainly not that municipality's "finest".
I'm not apologizing for the actions of any police officer. I think that's the kind of job that you need to really understand what you're getting into. And I think a lot of people who get into it do not really understand what they're getting into. And I also think a great deal of them overestimate their own mettle, which can result in tragedy born from tense situations the police officers should be trained to handle but sadly- are usually not.
This situation with philandro is an example of why police officers are generally not supposed to sit in one spot and keep an eye out at the location of a previous crime. Because doing that changes the police officer's mentality from being alert and aware and focusing on the totality of the people around him to focusing on looking for just the perpetrators of the previous crime. As James mentioned above, they are looking for a specific person that they have the intention of punishing. That changes the entire mindset. And can lead to innocent people being shot.
It's all fucked up. And I have no idea how to fix it.
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Post by Angelo on Jun 22, 2017 9:34:45 GMT -5
Part of the problem with these rampant police shootings is a low level of expectation during the hiring process. You can Google stories about how lax certain departments get when the time comes to hire new officers. I read this article yesterday about this female police officer who was on the job with a gun a taser and a baton for I think it was a year or two before the department discovered that her previous job was: Dominatrix. And when they discovered that she lied on her application, she was not fired. She was reassigned to desk duty. Dude if anything that better qualifies her if she was a professional one. She had to know how to control herself, and read people. They need to go back to the way it was, you don't fire your weapon unless they actually raise theirs at you or someone else. No more I think I saw a gun, you see one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 9:43:32 GMT -5
Sorry Jackel but being a dominatrix actually entails a strong desire to dominate people. In that situation she's dominating the willing.
Now what do you think someone who enjoys dominating people like that enjoys more? Dominating the willing or dominating the unwilling?
Police officer is the worst job for her. A bitch like that is cut out perfectly for politics.
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Post by PatSox on Jun 22, 2017 9:45:15 GMT -5
Part of the problem with these rampant police shootings is a low level of expectation during the hiring process. You can Google stories about how lax certain departments get when the time comes to hire new officers. I read this article yesterday about this female police officer who was on the job with a gun a taser and a baton for I think it was a year or two before the department discovered that her previous job was: Dominatrix. And when they discovered that she lied on her application, she was not fired. She was reassigned to desk duty. Maybe it wasn't like this for the rest of you guys but when I was a kid just about all of my friends wanted to be one of three things. Astronaut. Firefighter. Or cop. So far not a single one of them has become any of those things. The desire to actually be a police officer seems to be kind of a rare one in adults. Police departments will tell you that people become police officers because they want to help their community. But there's another side to that job that doesn't get talked about. It's the power. And the power that comes along with being a police officer makes it so (that according to a few studies) the position of police officer has more individuals who could be diagnosed as psychotic within their ranks. Knowing this, and driving the kind of car that I drive ( which makes it so I have a bit more interaction with law enforcement than your average Joe in a Ford Fusion) and also knowing that there is a handgun in the glove box and a shotgun in the trunk- every time the officer asks me if I have any weapons in the car- I put my hands at the 10 and 2 o clock position on my steering wheel and then inform them of every weapon in the vehicle. That is not the time to be reaching for anything. Not your wallet not your driver's license not your insurance and not your registration. What will usually happen with me after I have informed them of the weapons in my vehicle, is they take me out of the car and handle our discussion on the side of the road. And the only correct answer for why you have those guns is "To defend myself when the police cannot." Police officers do not get paid very well. They get more bullshit on a daily basis than any of us do. They deal with people at their worst all the time. Throw on top of that the police officer himself might actually be a psychotic individual and what you are left with is most certainly not that municipality's "finest". I'm not apologizing for the actions of any police officer. I think that's the kind of job that you need to really understand what you're getting into. And I think a lot of people who get into it do not really understand what they're getting into. And I also think a great deal of them overestimate their own mettle, which can result in tragedy born from tense situations the police officers should be trained to handle but sadly- are usually not. This situation with philandro is an example of why police officers are generally not supposed to sit in one spot and keep an eye out at the location of a previous crime. Because doing that changes the police officer's mentality from being alert and aware and focusing on the totality of the people around him to focusing on looking for just the perpetrators of the previous crime. As James mentioned above, they are looking for a specific person that they have the intention of punishing. That changes the entire mindset. And can lead to innocent people being shot. It's all fucked up. And I have no idea how to fix it. You hit on something here that's been nagging me for a while. The whole sitting in a spot thing It seems more and more cops on patrol, don't patrol. You see less and less boots on the ground officers walking the streets in heavily populated areas. Just out walking, being friendly, getting to know people in the area, making their presence a welcome thing that makes people feel safe. You also see less and less straight up "patrol" in cars. I live next to a town called Lowell. Pretty decent sized city area, large urban downtown. Tall buildings, mom and pop stores and restaurants. Public housing, inner city schools, colleges, the works. You see cop cars driving around occasionally, but for the most parts you see them sitting in speed trap mode. Looking to bag people for high ticket traffic infractions. Every time I see that shit, I can't help but think, "how about doing some actual fucking PATROL, you asshole? You know, monitor the streets. Let yourself be seen. Watch out for bad shit going down. Make you presence known. Look out for people. Don't just sit in some clandestine spot, like a coiled snake, hiding in the brush, looking to pick off some easy prey. Do your actual job, you cocksucker!" Okay, I may have gone a bit over the top, but the idea is, be part of the community you serve. Be a guardian angel, not someone who sits and waits for someone to fuck up in traffic, so you can keep up with your quota. Not that I'm saying people speeding like assholes and driving dangerously shouldn't get pulled over. But you'll still be able to bag those types of people if your on the move, and may even deter some from ever doing it in the first place, if your presence is more consistently felt. And isn't THAT the idea? |
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jun 22, 2017 10:15:17 GMT -5
A Canadian sniper just set the world record for the longest confirmed kill ever. 3450 meters. Took 10 seconds to reach the target, which was an Isis member who was about to take part in an Isis operation in Iraq....thats so fuckin spectacular lol. I woulda pulled the trigger, lit a smoke, took a drag, and grinned...hahaha.
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Post by johncfc on Jun 22, 2017 10:49:04 GMT -5
A Canadian sniper just set the world record for the longest confirmed kill ever. 3450 meters. Took 10 seconds to reach the target, which was an Isis member who was about to take part in an Isis operation in Iraq....thats so fuckin spectacular lol. I woulda pulled the trigger, lit a smoke, took a drag, and grinned...hahaha. Imsayin? |
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