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Post by Baph on Feb 22, 2017 12:34:27 GMT -5
Penny stocks are fun and a good way to kind of "learn to swim" if you're new and just want some low risk reps at clicking around.
Facebook gonna start streaming MLB games. Stock is up. Looking to monatize the platform. Snapchat doing an IPO soon.
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Post by MMAJim on Feb 22, 2017 12:36:51 GMT -5
...dramatic update, put in the trade at an ask of .82, hasn't gone through yet. Not exactly sure how this works, currently at .814, I assume we need to get that up to .82 to trigger the sale. Dude...I would advise staying away from the penny stocks. Straight up foolish, especially considering you seem to be very green and still unsure as to how the bids/asks work. Anything is possible but if you are really expecting a bounce back, well, best of luck. To be clear, these types of moves are part of what I consider investing in an education about buying/trading/holding stocks. Less that 1% of my investments would be in individual stocks or ETFs, so a penny stock like that is really about 10% of the 1% that I even make available for any kind of spontaneous exploration.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 21:32:49 GMT -5
I've been giving some thought to getting into a few insurance companies. Nothing concrete yet but I'm thinking that with Trump's overhaul of the ACA, there are definitely going to be some big winners in the insurance industry. I'm probably going to start doing some more reading about that in the next few days. Probably still way too early to tell who's going to pick the ball up and run with it most effectively, but even just a nice bounce in the price could lead to strong short term gains. I wouldn't think of the insurance industry as a long term hold, because all this uncertainty could come back and cause an over correction of the market. My long term hold is Solar City, which is stagnant in the water right now at about $20 a share. The thing about Solar City is that they are directly tied to Tesla now, and Tesla's stock continues to climb. I have some TSLA stock but the buy in price is so high that you can't see any significant return without a huge initial investment. I believe that Musk is going to steer Tesla away from the car industry and eventually focus on just batteries, and those batteries are going to be tied in with Solar City's solar panels to create 24 hour power supplies. So I think that Solar City is a good buy for a long term hold. I liked your idea about Solar City, I checked out the stock price but it looks like you now own more Tesla stock? I've got a Schwab account with some money transferred into it. Been peaking around, but nothing so far has piqued my interest that is under $150 a share. I'm not in any hurry. If anyone has any tip's worth looking into, would love to hear them and of course it would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 22:54:51 GMT -5
I've been giving some thought to getting into a few insurance companies. Nothing concrete yet but I'm thinking that with Trump's overhaul of the ACA, there are definitely going to be some big winners in the insurance industry. I'm probably going to start doing some more reading about that in the next few days. Probably still way too early to tell who's going to pick the ball up and run with it most effectively, but even just a nice bounce in the price could lead to strong short term gains. I wouldn't think of the insurance industry as a long term hold, because all this uncertainty could come back and cause an over correction of the market. My long term hold is Solar City, which is stagnant in the water right now at about $20 a share. The thing about Solar City is that they are directly tied to Tesla now, and Tesla's stock continues to climb. I have some TSLA stock but the buy in price is so high that you can't see any significant return without a huge initial investment. I believe that Musk is going to steer Tesla away from the car industry and eventually focus on just batteries, and those batteries are going to be tied in with Solar City's solar panels to create 24 hour power supplies. So I think that Solar City is a good buy for a long term hold. I liked your idea about Solar City, I checked out the stock price but it looks like you now own more Tesla stock? I've got a Schwab account with some money transferred into it. Been peaking around, but nothing so far has piqued my interest that is under $150 a share. I'm not in any hurry. If anyone has any tip's worth looking into, would love to hear them and of course it would be greatly appreciated. I mentioned it in a previous post but I like KMI a lot. Pipeline company, pays dividend, been hurt by drop in oil prices, which should come back up, large company. Give it a look, they are about $21 right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 22:59:38 GMT -5
I liked your idea about Solar City, I checked out the stock price but it looks like you now own more Tesla stock? I've got a Schwab account with some money transferred into it. Been peaking around, but nothing so far has piqued my interest that is under $150 a share. I'm not in any hurry. If anyone has any tip's worth looking into, would love to hear them and of course it would be greatly appreciated. I mentioned it in a previous post but I like KMI a lot. Pipeline company, pays dividend, been hurt by drop in oil prices, which should come back up, large company. Give it a look, they are about $21 right now. I must have missed that. I'll look into that. Appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 19:15:08 GMT -5
I've been giving some thought to getting into a few insurance companies. Nothing concrete yet but I'm thinking that with Trump's overhaul of the ACA, there are definitely going to be some big winners in the insurance industry. I'm probably going to start doing some more reading about that in the next few days. Probably still way too early to tell who's going to pick the ball up and run with it most effectively, but even just a nice bounce in the price could lead to strong short term gains. I wouldn't think of the insurance industry as a long term hold, because all this uncertainty could come back and cause an over correction of the market. My long term hold is Solar City, which is stagnant in the water right now at about $20 a share. The thing about Solar City is that they are directly tied to Tesla now, and Tesla's stock continues to climb. I have some TSLA stock but the buy in price is so high that you can't see any significant return without a huge initial investment. I believe that Musk is going to steer Tesla away from the car industry and eventually focus on just batteries, and those batteries are going to be tied in with Solar City's solar panels to create 24 hour power supplies. So I think that Solar City is a good buy for a long term hold. I liked your idea about Solar City, I checked out the stock price but it looks like you now own more Tesla stock? I've got a Schwab account with some money transferred into it. Been peaking around, but nothing so far has piqued my interest that is under $150 a share. I'm not in any hurry. If anyone has any tip's worth looking into, would love to hear them and of course it would be greatly appreciated. Yeah, the merger actually looks like it's going to fuck my shit up for the short term because they are going to go out and do equity raises. I'm still holding though, I think when Elon's done putting his puzzle together this is going to be a powerhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 1:56:18 GMT -5
I actually think you make a good point with solar city going with the batteries.
I wouldn't be bummed about some Tesla stock at all, I'd think it would be a pretty solid long term hold.
I'm a big fan of what Musk is doing. While I admittedly don't know jack shit about space travel or rocket science...I believe in that guy. I feel that while he is at the helm, he's a good person to invest in. But like i said before, I've never followed the stock market. So this guy could be doing amazing things, but if it doesn't add up to some amazing profit...
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Post by Angelo on Mar 5, 2017 2:05:19 GMT -5
I actually think you make a good point with solar city going with the batteries. I wouldn't be bummed about some Tesla stock at all, I'd think it would be a pretty solid long term hold. I'm a big fan of what Musk is doing. While I admittedly don't know jack shit about space travel or rocket science...I believe in that guy. I feel that while he is at the helm, he's a good person to invest in. But like i said before, I've never followed the stock market. So this guy could be doing amazing things, but if it doesn't add up to some amazing profit... If you think new battery tech is the future for stocks, forget Solar City, forget Tesla, buy Intel. Their lithium-oxygen will be what they all wind up using.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 2:12:31 GMT -5
I actually think you make a good point with solar city going with the batteries. I wouldn't be bummed about some Tesla stock at all, I'd think it would be a pretty solid long term hold. I'm a big fan of what Musk is doing. While I admittedly don't know jack shit about space travel or rocket science...I believe in that guy. I feel that while he is at the helm, he's a good person to invest in. But like i said before, I've never followed the stock market. So this guy could be doing amazing things, but if it doesn't add up to some amazing profit... If you think new battery tech is the future for stocks, forget Solar City, forget Tesla, buy Intel. Their lithium-oxygen will be what they all wind up using. I'll stick to your cooking tips, thanks though.
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Post by Angelo on Mar 5, 2017 2:24:46 GMT -5
If you think new battery tech is the future for stocks, forget Solar City, forget Tesla, buy Intel. Their lithium-oxygen will be what they all wind up using. I'll stick to your cooking tips, thanks though. Fine, but google it, bing it, alta-fucking-vista it, talk to your broker about it, whatever... Intel is the current leader (rather the one likely to be the one holding the keys to it in the end) for lithium-oxygen batteries and there is no doubt they are the future for batteries as we know them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 9:38:48 GMT -5
I'll stick to your cooking tips, thanks though. Fine, but google it, bing it, alta-fucking-vista it, talk to your broker about it, whatever... Intel is the current leader (rather the one likely to be the one holding the keys to it in the end) for lithium-oxygen batteries and there is no doubt they are the future for batteries as we know them. How much have you invested in?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 12:38:17 GMT -5
I actually think you make a good point with solar city going with the batteries. I wouldn't be bummed about some Tesla stock at all, I'd think it would be a pretty solid long term hold. I'm a big fan of what Musk is doing. While I admittedly don't know jack shit about space travel or rocket science...I believe in that guy. I feel that while he is at the helm, he's a good person to invest in. But like i said before, I've never followed the stock market. So this guy could be doing amazing things, but if it doesn't add up to some amazing profit... If you think new battery tech is the future for stocks, forget Solar City, forget Tesla, buy Intel. Their lithium-oxygen will be what they all wind up using. Intel does about $60 billion a year, and the Lithium Oxygen may be the new thing (may), but buying Intel is not investing in the batteries, you are buying the whole company which reflects a lot more than battery production. I was not aware that Intel held the patent for this technology, I thought it was developed in England and was not patent protected?
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Post by Angelo on Mar 5, 2017 15:05:15 GMT -5
If you think new battery tech is the future for stocks, forget Solar City, forget Tesla, buy Intel. Their lithium-oxygen will be what they all wind up using. Intel does about $60 billion a year, and the Lithium Oxygen may be the new thing (may), but buying Intel is not investing in the batteries, you are buying the whole company which reflects a lot more than battery production. I was not aware that Intel held the patent for this technology, I thought it was developed in England and was not patent protected? They are the closest by far (at least publicly) to finally getting it done in a way for mass production at a consumer acceptable price point. Chances are they'll walk away with a utility patent on it how to make it that way giving them pretty much an exclusive on the market for awhile. It is a game-changer for battery technology, which is already a near 70 billion dollar market itself, and would pretty much take it over. Not to mention it would allow the use of batteries in situations where they currently don't, growing the market. It is the type of product that if Intel managed to corner the market even for a few years would be strong enough to drive their shares up very nicely.
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Post by jamesod on Mar 7, 2017 9:16:51 GMT -5
Fine, but google it, bing it, alta-fucking-vista it, talk to your broker about it, whatever... Intel is the current leader (rather the one likely to be the one holding the keys to it in the end) for lithium-oxygen batteries and there is no doubt they are the future for batteries as we know them. How much have you invested in?
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Post by boboplata on Mar 7, 2017 9:34:24 GMT -5
How much have you invested in?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 12:34:21 GMT -5
Since someone quoted the resident expert here, let me say that " there is no doubt they are the future for batteries as we know them" is a complete lie. There is still much doubt. I don't want to bore everyone with the details, but Lithium itself has many limitations.
As someone who has followed battery development for quite some time, I can tell everyone that it is one of the most over-hyped and under-delivered areas of research in the last 30 years. The progress we have made in the field is peanuts compared to most other technological advances. When it comes to investing, I'd be very leery of batteries in general. Moving electrons around is fairly easy, storing the little SOBs is not. There are many, many variables at play.
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Post by jamesod on Mar 7, 2017 13:21:09 GMT -5
Moving away from batteries for a minute... I met with my investment guy last week. He said the market is at a place where it seems investors are banking on all of the "good" things of a Trump presidency (rolling back regulations, lowered taxes) but simultaneously banking on none of the "bad" things with a Trump presidency (trade wars, for example). So, he feels the market may be higher than is justifiable right now and he's expecting it to move back down off this Trump Bump shortly. In possibly related news, a Trump advisor (Carl Icahn) has a hedge fund and that hedge fund is currently taking a net short position in its portfolio. "Icahn Enterprises (IEP), which Icahn controls and serves as chairman of, quietly disclosed last week that it had a net short position in its investment portfolio of 128% as of the end of last year. That's a fivefold increase from the end of 2015. The net short position means Icahn's firm is betting against 1.3 shares for every one share it's betting on. In other words, Icahn's investment portfolio will generally gain value when prices decline, and vice versa." money.cnn.com/2017/03/07/investing/carl-icahn-betting-against-trump-rally/index.htmlI'm not suggesting either my guy or Icahn is correct. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm very much not knowledgeable when it comes to investments so I don't proclaim to have any particular insights. Just throwing this out there for the sake of conversation to hear what everyone's take is on this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 17:04:38 GMT -5
I would imagine some sort of pullback is inevitable this year, as we have jumped fast and in big amounts since November. The FED refused to raise interest rates when they should have during Obama's presidency, because his economy was barely limping along... and they are most likely going to make up by more and faster hikes.
I am currently working for the ex CFO of a large financial lending co-op from the San Francisco area, and was talking to him this morning about what he thought was ahead. He said the banks have been largely freed up to lend the money that has been in demand but tied up, so he thinks the growth is just starting to take off. I also heard some talking heads on FBN saying they believe we will see DOW 23,000 sometime this year........ my point being, I have no fucking clue who or what to believe just like you.
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Post by MMAJim on Apr 4, 2017 15:45:19 GMT -5
Apr 3, 2017 17:06:20 GMT -5 Trumplestiltskin said: Yes. The stocks in this article are already available. Canada legalizing on the Federal level (by August of next year barring some change) are going to give these companies a solid leg up. www.fool.ca/2017/04/03/new-canadian-marijuana-etf-ready-to-light-it-up-this-week/It would not surprise me if we see legalization on the federal level by 2021. And what is kinda funny/sad about that is that when the Feds legalize, it will not mean that the state laws established about marijuana will go away. So if you live in a state that prohibits it, just because the Feds legalize it does not mean that the state will have to, or will even bother to. Copy/paste from another thread for safe keeping.
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Post by Baph on Apr 5, 2017 0:56:40 GMT -5
I've had stock in two cannabis companies for a while now. Both are related to medical use. REFIG and CBIS. I'm kind of making the same play with 3D printing companies. You buy in early and cheap and hope one of 'em figures out how to make human heart valves or car engines that run on water and you get DUMB rich in like 48 hrs because you threw $400 at a penny stock in the right sector a year before it blew up. The likelihood of legal marijuana A) happening and B) injecting a fuck ton of money not only into pharmaceuticals but also vaporizers, growers, etc is pretty solid. Just a question of which ones and when.
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Post by MMAJim on Apr 5, 2017 10:10:15 GMT -5
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-climate-power-idUSKBN1770D8A throw back to green-energy investment as a value play discussion. The ICLN I bought hasn't skyrocketed by any means yet, but this might be another indicator that green energy that dipped might not be in for as bad of a ride in the next 4-8 as people think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 10:13:16 GMT -5
I've had stock in two cannabis companies for a while now. Both are related to medical use. REFIG and CBIS. I'm kind of making the same play with 3D printing companies. You buy in early and cheap and hope one of 'em figures out how to make human heart valves or car engines that run on water and you get DUMB rich in like 48 hrs because you threw $400 at a penny stock in the right sector a year before it blew up. The likelihood of legal marijuana A) happening and B) injecting a fuck ton of money not only into pharmaceuticals but also vaporizers, growers, etc is pretty solid. Just a question of which ones and when. Nice. Ive been eyeballing TerraTech.
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Post by Baph on Apr 5, 2017 11:22:49 GMT -5
The company that made maranol and has another one in the pipeline blew up a little bit before I could jump on it in the "penny stock" range.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 18:56:14 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6d5h4c/eli5_what_gives_ether_value/
Thoughts on Ethereum? A friend of mine is really into it. He sent me this reddit thread that a friend of his was involved in. Really breaks it down for anyone that is not up to speed on what it is.
And...bitcoin. I feel this is inflated huge and IMO, I don't really know whether or not it's worth getting into at this point. I have some friends that were into it a long time ago and of course are now really stoked they held on.
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Post by Angelo on May 26, 2017 19:11:50 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6d5h4c/eli5_what_gives_ether_value/ Thoughts on Ethereum? A friend of mine is really into it. He sent me this reddit thread that a friend of his was involved in. Really breaks it down for anyone that is not up to speed on what it is. And...bitcoin. I feel this is inflated huge and IMO, I don't really know whether or not it's worth getting into at this point. I have some friends that were into it a long time ago and of course are now really stoked they held on. Bitcoin is hugely inflated because of the recent cyberattack even. Turns out the same virus that held everything for ransomware was modified previously and running an undetected botnet (still) for quite awhile mining Bitcoins and Monero at a scale never before seen. So basically the market, much like gold, now has a few people with huge quantities in hand ready to put onto the market when they want. They could cause a crash that would almost overnight bring Bitcoin values from the roughly 2k$ value it holds now to under 60$. However do to the inherent lack of protection on the supply side of digital currencies, they'll remain at its foundation riskier than just about anything else to invest in, and only get more risky as technology advances.
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Post by Baph on May 26, 2017 22:28:54 GMT -5
Couple plays I've made lately:
Bought Snapchat on a dip. Looks like that may pay off. Bought index stocks on that 400 pt impeachment hype dip. That's already paid off. Sold all my Facebook a while back thinking these social media things are cyclic. I made a sweet profit, but that appears to have been a dumb fucking move at this point with FB at another all time high and now announcing some media development and streaming deals with revenue generation (commercials/ads) built-in. Fuck me.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 7:41:07 GMT -5
I bought enough FB on opening day that my wife and I fought about it.
And that turned out to be the best fight ever. Because I held it when it dropped, just out of spite.
I yelled, multiple times : "You can't bet against a sociopathic tech nerd with billions of dollars that he will invest heavily in AI and other disruptive tech!"
This also made it so I didn't get quite as sketched out when Zuckerberg said he was not going to rule out using brainwave patterns to determine the most effective marketing strategies for each individual user.
Dumping Bitcoin and FB shortly. Going all in on the legal weed. That's the next boom, imo.
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Post by MMAJim on Jun 11, 2017 22:16:54 GMT -5
Bumped for Floyd, I've actually been mainly sitting on what I have since my last points. Other than normal 401K dumping.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:33:08 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6d5h4c/eli5_what_gives_ether_value/ Thoughts on Ethereum? A friend of mine is really into it. He sent me this reddit thread that a friend of his was involved in. Really breaks it down for anyone that is not up to speed on what it is. And...bitcoin. I feel this is inflated huge and IMO, I don't really know whether or not it's worth getting into at this point. I have some friends that were into it a long time ago and of course are now really stoked they held on. Bitcoin is hugely inflated because of the recent cyberattack even. Turns out the same virus that held everything for ransomware was modified previously and running an undetected botnet (still) for quite awhile mining Bitcoins and Monero at a scale never before seen. So basically the market, much like gold, now has a few people with huge quantities in hand ready to put onto the market when they want. They could cause a crash that would almost overnight bring Bitcoin values from the roughly 2k$ value it holds now to under 60$. However do to the inherent lack of protection on the supply side of digital currencies, they'll remain at its foundation riskier than just about anything else to invest in, and only get more risky as technology advances. Meanwhile, my ethereum has more than doubled since I purchased it around the time I made this post...which is when it dropped a bit.
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Post by Angelo on Jun 12, 2017 2:43:35 GMT -5
Bitcoin is hugely inflated because of the recent cyberattack even. Turns out the same virus that held everything for ransomware was modified previously and running an undetected botnet (still) for quite awhile mining Bitcoins and Monero at a scale never before seen. So basically the market, much like gold, now has a few people with huge quantities in hand ready to put onto the market when they want. They could cause a crash that would almost overnight bring Bitcoin values from the roughly 2k$ value it holds now to under 60$. However do to the inherent lack of protection on the supply side of digital currencies, they'll remain at its foundation riskier than just about anything else to invest in, and only get more risky as technology advances. Meanwhile, my ethereum has more than doubled since I purchased it around the time I made this post...which is when it dropped a bit. Digital currencies are a great short term investment for sure, it just they carry so many inherent risks, and currently more than usual.
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