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Post by slaytan on Dec 16, 2016 18:28:43 GMT -5
surprised that toehold hasn't already jumped into this one with both feet.
Toehold is wise on that. This is going to turn out to be bullshit
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 18:30:26 GMT -5
So leaking legitimate emails and corruption is now a bad thing and the liberals are going to say that lying, cheating and corruption should be covered up? They are really going to make this point with straight faces?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 18:32:50 GMT -5
I'm not informed on this subject at all, simply because I haven't heard any clear evidence. It's obvious that SOMEONE wanted Hillary's dirty laundry made public, but all I've heard from the newspapers is the usual frothing-at-the-mouth accusations.
Proof, guys. Do you have any? If not, shut up.
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Post by slaytan on Dec 16, 2016 19:04:27 GMT -5
I'm not informed on this subject at all, simply because I haven't heard any clear evidence. It's obvious that SOMEONE wanted Hillary's dirty laundry made public, but all I've heard from the newspapers is the usual frothing-at-the-mouth accusations. Proof, guys. Do you have any? If not, shut up. Both had their dirty laundry aired out. Trump's didn't have the same stink. What did we find out about Trump? The worst was that he used his hotels for charity balls and then counted it as charity on his tax returns. And fucked bitches And made lecherous comments Trump is truly the opposite of Obama in so many ways. Obama's the most shadowy president ever. On the other hand, you could choose any day at all in the last 35 years, and chances are it's pretty easy to discover exactly where Trump was, and who he was with.
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Post by matt on Dec 16, 2016 20:48:01 GMT -5
Obama is claiming that he and hilary were hacked by Russia...
So in essence, Obama is admitting that yes hilary did use an illegal server to send the emails and yes the Wikileaks emails are indeed real and 100 percent authentic.
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Post by matt on Dec 16, 2016 20:55:08 GMT -5
Memes...so right alty...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 22:02:19 GMT -5
Interfere as in their media?
What about our media? Mexico and latin America media? Euro or Australian media?
They were all against Trump to the fucking fullest. But I haven't heard much about that.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 17, 2016 3:57:16 GMT -5
I gotta say I'm not surprised at Huffington, but I am surprised so much of the MSM is not reporting on the fact that both the NSA and John Kerry are both basically saying it wasn't Russia.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 17, 2016 7:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 10:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 22:49:42 GMT -5
surprised that toehold hasn't already jumped into this one with both feet. Toehold is wise on that. This is going to turn out to be bullshit Garth, how do you feel about people being pro-Putin right now? Maybe not "pro" but many people seem to be defending Russia and wanting us to be allies again. Does this make your stomach turn?
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Post by Angelo on Dec 17, 2016 23:00:42 GMT -5
surprised that toehold hasn't already jumped into this one with both feet. Toehold is wise on that. This is going to turn out to be bullshit Garth, how do you feel about people being pro-Putin right now? Maybe not "pro" but many people seem to be defending Russia and wanting us to be allies again. Does this make your stomach turn? Garth is so out of date on Russia it borders on not being funny anymore. Russia is falling apart, they don't have interest in destroying us, they want to become isolationists with enough connections to keep the money flowing to those at the top there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 7:42:34 GMT -5
Garth, how do you feel about people being pro-Putin right now? Maybe not "pro" but many people seem to be defending Russia and wanting us to be allies again. Does this make your stomach turn? Garth is so out of date on Russia it borders on not being funny anymore. Russia is falling apart, they don't have interest in destroying us, they want to become isolationists with enough connections to keep the money flowing to those at the top there. This will be an interesting and informative response, I'll bet.
Garth, are you up yet. Get writing. I want to see this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 9:06:44 GMT -5
Garth is so out of date on Russia it borders on not being funny anymore. Russia is falling apart, they don't have interest in destroying us, they want to become isolationists with enough connections to keep the money flowing to those at the top there. This will be an interesting and informative response, I'll bet.
Garth, are you up yet. Get writing. I want to see this.
I am actually waiting anxiously for it...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 11:20:22 GMT -5
^^^ It's classic Jackel trolling.
And it's working damnit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 9:42:46 GMT -5
Garth's still preparing his emo response. Give him a little time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 9:48:37 GMT -5
I personally have no problems with improving our relationships with any country in the world, including Russia. The "hacking" had no effect on the outcome, and the Dems trying to even imply it did is fucking stupid.
Obama saying Reagan would "roll over in his grave" because of people wanting to improve our relationship with Russia was also 100% bullshit. Reagan tried to establish peace between the two countries, not war.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 11:18:06 GMT -5
^^^ Exactly right. Reagan began his term by sending out Alexander Haig to address the Soviet Union as what it was: an Evil Empire, and swore to bring about peace through strength, rather than appeasement like these wimps have been trying to do for the last eight years. His military buildup helped hasten the USSR's eventual economic collapse.
"Tear down that wall, Mr. Gorbachev!"
Can you imagine that level of leadership from Obama and/or John (Great Rug) Kerry?
Of course not. The very thought makes me giggle.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 19, 2016 17:03:42 GMT -5
Reagan knew that the "great big bad evil manipulative" Russia (the one Garth believes still exists) was a product of but a couple powerful people there. That is exactly why strength (and manipulation) worked to actually subvert them rather than the other way around at the time. And while there may still be some old hard liners left, it is but dreams, there is nothing Russia can actually do to affect the US (or most countries) in any serious way anymore. Russia has no interests in the US other than pulling what North Korea did and lining up stipend payments to keep their tattle tantrums quiet. Their power is basically screaming and whining with nothing to back it up, like Toehold in most political threads
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Post by Baph on Dec 20, 2016 1:16:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 10:29:11 GMT -5
That Russian ambassador getting taken out like he was looks shady as fuck. Like, hey- the two biggest military super powers on the planet are about to be friendly again, and you go poke the bear?
First ever "false flag" operation from a group that doesn't even have a sovereign nation's flag?
I do not trust what the media is reporting as the motivation. Not in the least bit. This is how they spark WWIII shit, except you're going to have Russia and the US on the same team? Yeah. Good idea.
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2016 12:28:11 GMT -5
Why did the shooter keep yelling "aloha snackbar" after he killed the ambassador?!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 16:08:16 GMT -5
Why did the shooter keep yelling "aloha snackbar" after he killed the ambassador?! He's a sugar addict, and he was giving it up for Ramadan?
That's all I got.
Of course Allahu Akbar means "God is Great" in Terrorist.
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Post by slaytan on Dec 21, 2016 6:48:20 GMT -5
Garth's still preparing his emo response. Give him a little time. Yeah, sorry. Took me a while Equally likely to Russian disinformation aiding Trump, is "Russia aided Trump" being itself a Russian disinformation operation. If they wanted Trump to win the presidency: A) The USA is the host organism for the Russian parasite, so they need it alive. AND/ OR B) Russia's frankenstein monster, radical islam (and yes, it is a creation of the KGB) has gotten off of its chain and they want help to reign it in OR C) Putin sees Trump as the perfect patsy for them. If people can be convinced around the world, that Trump is Hitler, then they will bear unimaginable burdens, including sending their own children to die, to defeat him. With a few staged events they can count on Trump to take logical, predictable steps in defense of America and spring a trap which ends with hundreds of millions dead and America as the badguy. It's what they did with Hitler, who wasn't bad until he cracked under the pressure around 1941 (nazi Germany was framed for atrocities that they were innocent of, before they actually started in on the atrocities), when he realized that he had stuck his dick in a meat grinder. Remember, Hitler believed that he could "make deals" with Stalin.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 7:05:18 GMT -5
Garth's still preparing his emo response. Give him a little time. Yeah, sorry. Took me a while Equally likely to Russian disinformation aiding Trump, is "Russia aided Trump" being itself a Russian disinformation operation. If they wanted Trump to win the presidency: A) The USA is the host organism for the Russian parasite, so they need it alive. AND/ OR B) Russia's frankenstein monster, radical islam (and yes, it is a creation of the KGB) has gotten off of its chain and they want help to reign it in OR C) Putin sees Trump as the perfect patsy for them. If people can be convinced around the world, that Trump is Hitler, then they will bear unimaginable burdens, including sending their own children to die, to defeat him. With a few staged events they can count on Trump to take logical, predictable steps in defense of America and spring a trap which ends with hundreds of millions dead and America as the badguy. It's what they did with Hitler, who wasn't bad until he cracked under the pressure around 1941 (nazi Germany was framed for atrocities that they were innocent of, before they actually started in on the atrocities), when he realized that he had stuck his dick in a meat grinder. Remember, Hitler believed that he could "make deals" with Stalin. Seriously you are like a fucking 1800s version of a millennial who doesn't understand that time from our perspective moves on and brings about it changes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 7:31:30 GMT -5
Says the most worthless guy on the board. Lol...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 7:45:10 GMT -5
Garth's still preparing his emo response. Give him a little time. Yeah, sorry. Took me a while Equally likely to Russian disinformation aiding Trump, is "Russia aided Trump" being itself a Russian disinformation operation. If they wanted Trump to win the presidency: A) The USA is the host organism for the Russian parasite, so they need it alive. AND/ OR B) Russia's frankenstein monster, radical islam (and yes, it is a creation of the KGB) has gotten off of its chain and they want help to reign it in OR C) Putin sees Trump as the perfect patsy for them. If people can be convinced around the world, that Trump is Hitler, then they will bear unimaginable burdens, including sending their own children to die, to defeat him. With a few staged events they can count on Trump to take logical, predictable steps in defense of America and spring a trap which ends with hundreds of millions dead and America as the badguy. It's what they did with Hitler, who wasn't bad until he cracked under the pressure around 1941 (nazi Germany was framed for atrocities that they were innocent of, before they actually started in on the atrocities), when he realized that he had stuck his dick in a meat grinder. Remember, Hitler believed that he could "make deals" with Stalin. So which are you leaning towards, A, B, or C? Or all 3?
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Post by slaytan on Dec 21, 2016 9:34:15 GMT -5
Seriously you are like a fucking 1800s version of a millennial . this one went over my head
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Post by slaytan on Dec 21, 2016 9:59:50 GMT -5
So which are you leaning towards, A, B, or C? Or all 3? A and B, but C is a distinct possibility. Depends on how much an admirer of Stalin that Putin is, or how power mad he is. Right now the Russian Oligarchy that exists has been operating for 100 years. As Jackie pointed out, times do change. Today they might be happy to simply remain playboys, living off the company "grandpa" built but not having the same fire in the belly grandpa had. I hope that is the case, or we're in for a bumpy ride. We can't know for certain. Along with the "iron curtain" thing, Churchilll called Russia "a mystery, wrapped up in a riddle, wrapped up in an enigma" or something (and despite not trusting them, he still ended up very much hoodwinked and bamboozled by them into destroying the British as a race). If not for Jackle, we would have absolutely no clue of what their intentions are or how they think
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 10:10:43 GMT -5
The living as playboys thing is possible, but it only takes ONE of them to be power hungry enough to cause trouble. And there is almost always one sucker that needs more power, at least in my experience. Someone over there is staring at the proverbial beat up Vader mask.
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