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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:02:28 GMT -5
So, will all you Trump lovers AT LEAST admit this is SERIOUSLY fucked up of Trump?? For those of you who don't know, (I'm sure Bobo does though), the Phillipino president Rodrigo Duerte is killing anyone he thinks uses any kind of drug, just committing a mass holocaust of drug users, having them killed on the spot. He's killed over 4,800 people since June. And your fucking savior Donald Trump SUPPORTS him and thinks he's doing a good job and a good thing killing all these drug users without giving them ANY kind of trial and wants to WORK TOGETHER WITH HIM!! I'm honestly scared of what influence he may have on our drug laws and making them worse. Listen guys, I am willing to ASSUME he wants to do some good things and can accomplish some good things in SOME areas, but the fact he thinks just point blank killing drug users without ANY trial is a GOOD thing...it says SO much about his character and how horrible a person he is at his core. This is a man who supports a HOLOCAUST on mostly harmless drug users, or even if some are harmful, supports killing them without a trial. This is the man you elected. "Trump says Philippines fighting drugs 'the right way': Duterte Manila (AFP) - Philippine leader Rodrigo Duterte said Saturday that President-elect Donald Trump told him Manila was conducting its deadly drug war "the right way", in stark contrast to the criticism he has received from the current White House. The Philippine president called Trump late Friday evening to congratulate him on his election victory with Trump wishing him "success" in his controversial anti-crime crackdown, in which some 4,800 people have been killed since June, according to Duterte. "He was quite sensitive also to our worry about drugs. And he wishes me well... in my campaign and he said that... we are doing it as a sovereign nation, the right way," Duterte said in a video released by his office Saturday. "He was wishing me success in my campaign against the drug problem." Duterte, 71, launched an unprecedented war on drugs that drew a wave of global criticism with Obama urging the leader in September to conduct his campaign "the right way" following concerns over alleged extrajudicial killings. Trump's office released a brief statement following the conversation, saying Duterte had congratulated Trump and the two agreed to work together closely. Duterte won presidential elections in May after pledging to kill tens of thousands of drug suspects, warning that otherwise the Philippines would turn into a narco-state. Since assuming office, he has called on police and even civilians to kill drug users. Duterte also said he would be "happy to slaughter" three million drug addicts, and likened his campaign to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's efforts to exterminate Jews in Europe. In October Duterte announced a "separation" from the United States and had called for the withdrawal of American troops from his country, putting into question Manila's 70-year-old alliance with Washington. But on Saturday, Duterte said he "could sense a good rapport" with an "animated" Trump. Duterte's spokesman said the "understanding" between the two leaders signalled better Philippine-US ties. "We can say at this stage that our relationship with the US is improving," Ernesto Abella said. Video released by Duterte's office showed the Philippine leader laughing as he chatted on the phone, later saying Trump would would be "a good president for the United States of America". Duterte said the president-elect invited him to visit New York and Washington DC and he returned the favour by asking Trump to attend a regional summit that the Philippines is set to host next year. "If I'm around, he wants to be notified of my presence," Duterte said." sports.yahoo.com/news/trump-s...032227316.html
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Post by Baph on Dec 4, 2016 20:16:09 GMT -5
Many Trump supporters have said this for months.
To quote myself: "Trump is wrong on tariffs and he's wrong on the drug war. He's wrong on a number of things. I'm not a groupie. I just legitimately believe Hitlary is a point of no return in terms of corruption/collusion insider control, possibly including a WW# with Iran and Russia."
Anyone fighting the drug was is doing it wrong, end of story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:24:29 GMT -5
Seriously, I know LOTS of you guys have used drugs or at least don't like the drug laws, so I'd like to hear from actual Trump supporters on whether or not you disagree with him on this.
I believe that ALL drugs, even heroin, should be decriminalized.
But even more the bottom line here, is that EVEN A MURDERER SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL, AND DUERTE KILLS PEOPLE WITHOUT A TRIAL OR AN ARREST OR ANYTHING AND YOUR SAVIOR DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTS THIS AND WOULD DO IT HIMSELF IF HE COULD!!
Duerte HIMSELF compared himself to Hitler in a favorable light, and Trump LIKES HIM and says they will "work together".
Thankfully, the U.S. is a free enough country to wear even IF he wanted to (which he DOES) Trump literally cannot get away with killing people for drugs (or anything) without a fair trial.
BUT, he'd try if he could, and you better believe he will try to make drug laws stricter and try to reverse decrimnalization/legalization of marijuanna in states like Colorado and Calfornia, and I don't know how much he can get away with regarding that.
He's already trying to get Jeff Sessions appointed to attorney general, and Sessions thinks that NO ONE should be allowed to smoke weed and that all people who smoke weed "are bad people".
HOPEFULLY he won't get appointed, but Trump will still try to go after harmless drug users more strictly if he can.
Are the Hitler comparisons starting to be warranted??
Godwin's Law aside (the idea that any political discussion will bring about comparison's of some politician to Hitler if it goes on long enough) Duerte IS like Hitler, and again, he compared HIMSELF to him in a favorable light, and Trump SUPPORTS his holocaust on harmless drug users, which gives us GOOD reason to believe he'd do the same thing IF he could get away with it: hence, Hitler comparisons to Trump make sense in this regard.
And who else and for what other offenses would Trump have people KILLED WITHOUT A FAIR TRIAL??
Illegal aliens?
Burglars?
People who don't like him? (I doubt it, but who knows).
This is a man who is SCARY.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 4, 2016 20:27:49 GMT -5
Oh Du30...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:29:20 GMT -5
Many Trump supporters have said this for months. To quote myself: "Trump is wrong on tariffs and he's wrong on the drug war. He's wrong on a number of things. I'm not a groupie. I just legitimately believe Hitlary is a point of no return in terms of corruption/collusion insider control, possibly including a WW# with Iran and Russia." Anyone fighting the drug was is doing it wrong, end of story. Well in this regard, "HITlary" is less "Hitler-like" than Trump. She would NOT have had people killed for drug use without a trial or condoned doing so. I mean yeah, she was also somewhat anti-weed and I didn't like her for that either, but at least she believed in the right to a fair trial. And it's about MORE than drugs: it's the core issue of what kind of a person is Donald Trump at heart if he thinks people...ANYONE, even a goddamn murderer, should be killed point blank without the right to a fair trial??? Can you call someone who supports this kind of thing a "good person"?? I don't believe blanket statements of "good or bad" people usually apply, but Duerte is an EVIL man, and Trump supports and LIKES the most evil thing he does and wants to HELP him to do it. This begs the question: what other things might Trump support and what else that is utterly immoral might he do??
Are you guys seriously NOT worried about the possible actions of a man who believes in his heart that it is ok to kill people without a fair trial??
Does this NOT concern you in the larger sense regarding what kind of things Trump might do in 4 and possibly even 8 years of presidency??!!
I think everyone should be scared of him and what he'll do and this is reason enough to feel that way.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 4, 2016 20:30:47 GMT -5
I remember someone else that doesn't like due process that recently ran for President.
Fuck, who was it? It's on the tip of my tongue....
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Post by Angelo on Dec 4, 2016 20:31:05 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Hillary Clinton
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:32:17 GMT -5
What does that mean?? And tell me bobo, as a Filipino who OBVIOUSLY does not like Duerte, how does it make you feel knowing Trump SUPPORTS and LIKES what Duerte does? Do you believe that someone who supports the holocaust of drug users without a fair trial might POSSIBLY be a bad person at heart?? Do you think being at least SOMEWHAT of a decent human being who doesn't support mass slaughter is something we might want in a president? Does this not give you second thoughts about how much you have said you like Trump, and make you think that MAYBE if you WERE an American citizen you might NOT have voted for him??? (even if you didn't vote for Hilary, just not vote at all?) NO ONE can defend this.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 4, 2016 20:34:30 GMT -5
This begs the question: what other things might Trump support and what else that is utterly immoral might he do??
As I've been saying for 15 years, you can be immoral, disgusting, and evil, and still be a good leader if you can separate the job from your personal beliefs. Until he actually wins the election, takes office, and starts taking tangible actions... we have no idea what kind of President he will be. This is the big reason why people didn't vote for Hillary, we knew the kind of person she was, and we knew how she runs her political offices. We don't know the second for Trump, and all signs point towards nothing like how he handles his personal life.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:36:35 GMT -5
You are not very smart if you believe Hilary would have SLAUGHTERED or condoned the slaughter of people without a trial. She would NEVER have supported a HOLOCAUST on drug users...NEVER. And to be a HUGE devil's advocate, IF she would have (which you ALL know she would NOT have)....that would just make BOTH her and Trump fucking EVIL, so then you shouldn't have voted PERIOD. And Obama, well he has said point blank he does NOT support what Duerte is doing, so he's superior to Trump in this way. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And I like you dude, but seriously IF you believe Hilary would have condoned Durete's behavior, IF you believe that, then I'm sorry, you are an idiot. (I'm not calling you an idiot so don't be insulted, I'm saying IN THAT PARTICULAR WAY, IF you believe she'd condone that, then in that ONE way, you'd be an idiot). NONE of this is about Hilary anymore, she's gone, she's not gonna be president, so lets stop our fucking comparisons. This is ALL the Trump show now, and ALL about if we condone what he does or will do. And if you think this is wrong, then you realize in your heart that Trump is NOT a good person, and that this is a BIG reason to question if this kind of person who condones mass holocausts should be president.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:38:06 GMT -5
This begs the question: what other things might Trump support and what else that is utterly immoral might he do??
As I've been saying for 15 years, you can be immoral, disgusting, and evil, and still be a good leader if you can separate the job from your personal beliefs. Until he actually wins the election, takes office, and starts taking tangible actions... we have no idea what kind of President he will be. This is the big reason why people didn't vote for Hillary, we knew the kind of person she was, and we knew how she runs her political offices. We don't know the second for Trump, and all signs point towards nothing like how he handles his personal life. NO. I disagree. If you condone mass slaughter, that type of personal quality will work it's way into at least ONE OR TWO things you do as president. If your moral compass is THAT fucked up and you have THAT much power, you WILL inevitably do SOMETHING VERY VERY wrong as president. What it is, who knows, but it will probably be more than one thing. And if you don't believe that, then we have nothing more to say to eachother. This CANNOT be defended.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 4, 2016 20:46:40 GMT -5
What does that mean?? And tell me bobo, as a Filipino who OBVIOUSLY does not like Duerte, how does it make you feel knowing Trump SUPPORTS and LIKES what Duerte does? Do you believe that someone who supports the holocaust of drug users without a fair trial might POSSIBLY be a bad person at heart?? Do you think being at least SOMEWHAT of a decent human being who doesn't support mass slaughter is something we might want in a president? Does this not give you second thoughts about how much you have said you like Trump, and make you think that MAYBE if you WERE an American citizen you might NOT have voted for him??? (even if you didn't vote for Hilary, just not vote at all?) NO ONE can defend this. Duterte being president is the fault of popular vote that we use in a country with a failed democracy. Trump is buttering up Duterte because the US is losing its grasp on the philippines because our country & china are getting too cozy for the US.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 4, 2016 20:48:48 GMT -5
You are not very smart if you believe Hilary would have SLAUGHTERED or condoned the slaughter of people without a trial. She would NEVER have supported a HOLOCAUST on drug users...NEVER. And to be a HUGE devil's advocate, IF she would have (which you ALL know she would NOT have)....that would just make BOTH her and Trump fucking EVIL, so then you shouldn't have voted PERIOD. And Obama, well he has said point blank he does NOT support what Duerte is doing, so he's superior to Trump in this way. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And I like you dude, but seriously IF you believe Hilary would have condoned Durete's behavior, IF you believe that, then I'm sorry, you are an idiot. (I'm not calling you an idiot so don't be insulted, I'm saying IN THAT PARTICULAR WAY, IF you believe she'd condone that, then in that ONE way, you'd be an idiot). NONE of this is about Hilary anymore, she's gone, she's not gonna be president, so lets stop our fucking comparisons. This is ALL the Trump show now, and ALL about if we condone what he does or will do. And if you think this is wrong, then you realize in your heart that Trump is NOT a good person, and that this is a BIG reason to question if this kind of person who condones mass holocausts should be president. There have been 47 persons who died mysteriously while working with Hillary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:50:35 GMT -5
You are not very smart if you believe Hilary would have SLAUGHTERED or condoned the slaughter of people without a trial. She would NEVER have supported a HOLOCAUST on drug users...NEVER. And to be a HUGE devil's advocate, IF she would have (which you ALL know she would NOT have)....that would just make BOTH her and Trump fucking EVIL, so then you shouldn't have voted PERIOD. And Obama, well he has said point blank he does NOT support what Duerte is doing, so he's superior to Trump in this way. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And I like you dude, but seriously IF you believe Hilary would have condoned Durete's behavior, IF you believe that, then I'm sorry, you are an idiot. (I'm not calling you an idiot so don't be insulted, I'm saying IN THAT PARTICULAR WAY, IF you believe she'd condone that, then in that ONE way, you'd be an idiot). NONE of this is about Hilary anymore, she's gone, she's not gonna be president, so lets stop our fucking comparisons. This is ALL the Trump show now, and ALL about if we condone what he does or will do. And if you think this is wrong, then you realize in your heart that Trump is NOT a good person, and that this is a BIG reason to question if this kind of person who condones mass holocausts should be president. There have been 47 persons who died mysteriously while working with Hillary. I don't believe she actually had any of them killed, but even if she did for the sake of argument, then MAYBE she was evil too? I don't think she was, but lets just forget about her. She's out of the picture now. This is all about what kind of person Trump is and whether or not he'll be a good president or do bad things. That he supports this behavior cannot be defended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:53:37 GMT -5
What does that mean?? And tell me bobo, as a Filipino who OBVIOUSLY does not like Duerte, how does it make you feel knowing Trump SUPPORTS and LIKES what Duerte does? Do you believe that someone who supports the holocaust of drug users without a fair trial might POSSIBLY be a bad person at heart?? Do you think being at least SOMEWHAT of a decent human being who doesn't support mass slaughter is something we might want in a president? Does this not give you second thoughts about how much you have said you like Trump, and make you think that MAYBE if you WERE an American citizen you might NOT have voted for him??? (even if you didn't vote for Hilary, just not vote at all?) NO ONE can defend this. Duterte being president is the fault of popular vote that we use in a country with a failed democracy. Trump is buttering up Duterte because the US is losing its grasp on the philippines because our country & china are getting too cozy for the US. And you believe it's all some kind of act that he supports Duerte's behavior? That he doesn't feel that way? If you actually think that, well I don't even know what to say. He CLEARLY supports and condones this behavior and likes Duerte, and would quite possibly do the same thing in the U.S. if he could. And even if he wouldn't, he still supports him and condones his behavior. It's not even really questionable, and even if you bought into it being an act, that wouldn't make it much better. People who pretend publicly to support a holocaust are only slightly better than those who actually do, and I think he actually does. There's really no way around it. Say whatever you want, divert the argument to how bad Hilary was, pretend it's an act, it really doesn't matter. The second you open your mouth as president elect to say you support the holocaust committed by a man who is a lot like Hitler, IMO you become a VERY questionable individual.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 4, 2016 20:57:48 GMT -5
He likes Duterte(not "Duerte", hence the "Du30")because they're both not a product of political machinations but a big fuck you to the ruling elite. Maybe. I'm grasping at straws. Politics is a dance I don't want to engage in. I don't condone extrajudicial killings. Nor any filipino with a functional brain. It's just that...there's too many idiots in my country. Maybe they should cull them 1st.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 4, 2016 21:03:19 GMT -5
You are not very smart if you believe Hilary would have SLAUGHTERED or condoned the slaughter of people without a trial.andles his personal life. NO. I disagree. If you condone mass slaughter, that type of personal quality will work it's way into at least ONE OR TWO things you do as president. If your moral compass is THAT fucked up and you have THAT much power, you WILL inevitably do SOMETHING VERY VERY wrong as president. What it is, who knows, but it will probably be more than one thing. And if you don't believe that, then we have nothing more to say to eachother. This CANNOT be defended. Did you not read what I put? I said another person who ran for president who didn't believe in due process. Not murder. Besides right now, Duerte is the only one saying Trump said that, and is probably saying it to rile people up at home, and as crazy as Duerte is, it isn't likely he's telling the truth. Also, you can have a fucked up moral compass and still know not to ACT on it. Everyone will inevitably do something wrong as president if they are in office long enough, one of the reasons for term limits. We've had some really bad, disgusting, and even evil people as our President in the past, more so than you believe Trump is, and they managed to not act on that. Why? Because to make it to that level, you have to be able to compartmentalize.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 23:44:34 GMT -5
I don't see anywhere in the TS posts where there is anything directly quoted from Trump. I see where a guy says that he was told by Trump that he was right... but is there any actual facts or recorded quotes where Trump is saying this....
Or is this another case of Toehold reading some bullshit site that doesn't use facts to report stories, and he is running down the street screaming about something that is incorrect?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 0:37:18 GMT -5
You are not very smart if you believe Hilary would have SLAUGHTERED or condoned the slaughter of people without a trial.andles his personal life. NO. I disagree. If you condone mass slaughter, that type of personal quality will work it's way into at least ONE OR TWO things you do as president. If your moral compass is THAT fucked up and you have THAT much power, you WILL inevitably do SOMETHING VERY VERY wrong as president. What it is, who knows, but it will probably be more than one thing. And if you don't believe that, then we have nothing more to say to eachother. This CANNOT be defended. Did you not read what I put? I said another person who ran for president who didn't believe in due process. Not murder. Besides right now, Duerte is the only one saying Trump said that, and is probably saying it to rile people up at home, and as crazy as Duerte is, it isn't likely he's telling the truth. Also, you can have a fucked up moral compass and still know not to ACT on it. Everyone will inevitably do something wrong as president if they are in office long enough, one of the reasons for term limits. We've had some really bad, disgusting, and even evil people as our President in the past, more so than you believe Trump is, and they managed to not act on that. Why? Because to make it to that level, you have to be able to compartmentalize. I do NOT believe you that Hilary doesn't believe in due process, just like I don't believe she's had 47 people murdered. Show me actual proof of that she doesn't AND my point is your saying that, even if it IS true (which I don't believe it is) is just diversion because it doesn't matter if she believes that, that would only make her just as evil as Trump, meaning they are both evil so that still doesn't mean we shouldn't be afraid of what Trump might do or think he's a bad person. And I think that's bullshit what you are saying about moral compasses. IF this is actually true that he believes this, and I believe it is, you are talking about someone who believes mass murder without due process is a GOOD thing and that someone who AFFECTIONATELY compares himself to Hitler and admires Hitler, is someone Trump WANTS TO WORK WITH. You are not going to convince me that someone who believes it's ok to kill THOUSANDS of people point blank without a trial because they are drugs users is not IN ANY WAY going to have his actions as president influenced by such a profoundly deep sense of immorality. You are essentially saying that someone could have the same beliefs as Hitler, not in terms of just BEING racist, but in terms of thinking mass slaughter is ok, and it wouldn't matter that they were president that they believed such things, nor would their having such an INCREDIBLY evil core ever come out in ANY way during 4-8 years of being president. I really don't care what kind of argument you make about that. You cannot convince me that someone could have the beliefs of Charles Manson, and the moral compass of a mass murderer or one who supports mass murderers, and that it will not matter that that person is president. If you are that evil at your core that you believe mass murder is ok, you really believe that having such a deeply sick set of beliefs will not effect ANY decision you make as president?? You are fucking kidding me. I would NEVER want someone as my president who I would be sickened to have in my own house, or terrified to watch my kid for an hour while I'm at the store (if I had kids which I don't), and this person could have the fucking self control of GOD HIMSELF, if he believes deep down that mass murder is wrong, I'm not fucking so much as walking on the same patch of grass as him let alone allowing him to be the president of my country. I cannot begin to explain how totally fucked up I think your idea of how little importance of having a healthy moral compass is for the president of the United States. All I can say is if you believe that feeling mass murder is a GOOD thing and just not acting on it is ok for a president then I can't imagine your perspective on life. Let me ask you one SIMPLE question: Imagine you had a one year old daughter (just indulge me)...she's the light of your life, you would gladly die for her, she's more important to you than life itself and she's completely adorable and completely defenseless. Now, lets find out that there's a man who believes mass murder is not only ok but GOOD but you THINK you are 99.99% sure he has the self control of a god. (You BELIEVE this, but have no actual proof it's true). Would you let this man, who believes mass murder is a good thing, but has INCREDIBLE self control and you don't THINK he would act on his deeply evil beliefs, would you allow this man to take care of your 1 year old daughter for a day, with him having 24 hours alone with her where he could do whatever he wants and get away with it?? Would you be satisfied in your BELIEF that he PROBABLY wouldn't act on his love of, and sympathy for mass murderers, while watching your one year old daughter?? I do NOT think you would, nor can I imagine anyone on this forum would. And if you wouldn't let him watch your one year old daughter, how can you POSSIBLY want this man as your president???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 0:43:55 GMT -5
I don't see anywhere in the TS posts where there is anything directly quoted from Trump. I see where a guy says that he was told by Trump that he was right... but is there any actual facts or recorded quotes where Trump is saying this.... Or is this another case of Toehold reading some bullshit site that doesn't use facts to report stories, and he is running down the street screaming about something that is incorrect? Here's the link, it didn't go through the first time: sports.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-philippines-fighting-drugs-way-duterte-032227316.htmlI'll post the article again cause you seem not to be able to read and bold the direct quotes from Trump. And I'll look up the other sources as well and bet I can find further proof. This is on Yahoo! sports. I don't know that that is the 100% best site on earth, but it's fucking reputable enough that this isn't made up: Philippines' President Rodrigo Duterte talks to US President-elect Donald Trump on the phone at Legaspi Suites in Davao City (AFP Photo/Richard Madelo) More Manila (AFP) - Philippine leader Rodrigo Duterte said Saturday that President-elect Donald Trump told him Manila was conducting its deadly drug war "the right way", in stark contrast to the criticism he has received from the current White House. The Philippine president called Trump late Friday evening to congratulate him on his election victory with Trump wishing him "success" in his controversial anti-crime crackdown, in which some 4,800 people have been killed since June, according to Duterte. "He was quite sensitive also to our worry about drugs. And he wishes me well... in my campaign and he said that... we are doing it as a sovereign nation, the right way," Duterte said in a video released by his office Saturday. "He was wishing me success in my campaign against the drug problem." Duterte, 71, launched an unprecedented war on drugs that drew a wave of global criticism with Obama urging the leader in September to conduct his campaign "the right way" following concerns over alleged extrajudicial killings. Trump's office released a brief statement following the conversation, saying Duterte had congratulated Trump and the two agreed to work together closely. Duterte won presidential elections in May after pledging to kill tens of thousands of drug suspects, warning that otherwise the Philippines would turn into a narco-state. Since assuming office, he has called on police and even civilians to kill drug users. Duterte also said he would be "happy to slaughter" three million drug addicts, and likened his campaign to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's efforts to exterminate Jews in Europe. In October Duterte announced a "separation" from the United States and had called for the withdrawal of American troops from his country, putting into question Manila's 70-year-old alliance with Washington. But on Saturday, Duterte said he "could sense a good rapport" with an "animated" Trump. Duterte's spokesman said the "understanding" between the two leaders signalled better Philippine-US ties. "We can say at this stage that our relationship with the US is improving," Ernesto Abella said. Video released by Duterte's office showed the Philippine leader laughing as he chatted on the phone, later saying Trump would would be "a good president for the United States of America". Duterte said the president-elect invited him to visit New York and Washington DC and he returned the favour by asking Trump to attend a regional summit that the Philippines is set to host next year. "If I'm around, he wants to be notified of my presence," Duterte said.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 5, 2016 0:44:42 GMT -5
^^^^
Since you don't understand how to quote someone correctly, I'm not going to quote just use those snazzy arrows to reference back to you.
You have no reading comprehension. That much is becoming annoyingly obvious. You are like Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy, you can't grasp meaning behind anything people here say... further showing why you believe click-bait news sources.
also did you notice Trump didn't say any of those things, Duerte did.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 0:56:53 GMT -5
^^^^ Since you don't understand how to quote someone correctly, I'm not going to quote just use those snazzy arrows to reference back to you. You have no reading comprehension. That much is becoming annoyingly obvious. You are like Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy, you can't grasp meaning behind anything people here say... further showing why you believe click-bait news sources. also did you notice Trump didn't say any of those things, Duerte did. How on earth do I have no reading comprehension? YES, Trump said he thought he was doing the right thing, those were Trump's words as they were quoted, and wished him success.I read exactly what you wrote and understood it perfectly. You only made a couple points: 1) That you THINK that Hilary doesn't believe in due process (despite that she was a fucking lawyer LOL) but have ZERO proof of this (and if she DOES it doesn't matter at all because that says nothing about what Trump will do or how his believing mass murder is acceptable is ok and won't effect him) 2) That it's fine to believe mass murder is ok as long as you don't act on it and you could still want someone as president who believes this (I DON'T think it's ok) 3) And that you think there have been worse people who believed worse things who have been president and didn't "act on it" because they can compartemantalize. And I addressed all of them, except for the 3rd to an extent, and I'll address it now: First off, who do you think was president that believed worse things and didn't "act on it" and what did they believe?? And moreoever, I bet you anything that they DID "act on it" only not directly like you'd think. If there has been someone who was president of the U.S. with such a horrible moral compass as to believe mass murder is a GOOD thing, I bet you anything that MANY decisions they made were effected negatively by that moral compass, only you didn't' know it. I bet they took actions as president that led to deaths or harm of innocents, but you didn't know that it was that moral compass that led to it. Or they had a law passed that led to awful things happening, but you didn't realize that moral compass influenced it, because it didn't seem to influence it DIRECTLY or in a way you could see. Or any number of other actions a president could take, that could have been effected by their deep seated belief that mass murder is ok. I do not believe that a person can have that kind of moral compass and have it NOT lead to them doing ANYTHING very very wrong if they are president of a country and I guarantee that if a person with those beliefs or equally bad beliefs has been president of the U.S. they have done some very wrong things as president influenced by that underlying poor moral compass. The really fucked up thing about you defending this is your lack of admission of there being ANYTHING wrong with this. You all think I loved Hilary and everything but I'll tell you straight up, if I actually BELIEVED she had had completely innocent people murdered I wouldn't have DREAMED of voting for her, it's just that I believe all those stories are straight up tin foil hat conspiracy theories. I would not support ANYONE EVER who believes such things, regardless or party, and IF I ever find out Hilary really DID do those kinds of things, I will straight up be DISGUSTED I voted for her and admit it to all of you, but I STILL would just say I shouldn't have voted at all. And PLEASE explain to me what on earth I didn't understand that you posted.
SO....now, PLEASE answer my question and tell me: Would you let the person who believes mass murder is ok but who you THINK has the self control of a saint watch you hypothetical one year old daughter for 24 hours??
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Post by Norcalkyle2 on Dec 5, 2016 0:59:55 GMT -5
Toehold... those are not quotes, it was what Duarte said trump said... you are embarrassing yourself again here.
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Post by Baph on Dec 5, 2016 1:05:41 GMT -5
You see Elizabeth Warren on the Anderson Cooper show Friday? Same shit. How many times can you get the words "bigotry, white supremacy, and racism" out of your mouth in 2 min? Ready . . . GO!!!!
It was kind of embarrassing. Get some new material, guys. Good god.
Anderson even called her on some of it. It's an Onion article come to life. It's also a big part of the reason they just lost huge swaths of state legislature, congressional, and presidential power across the nation. So, response? Re-hire Pelosi and double-down on -ism and -phobic social justice war drums.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 1:08:54 GMT -5
Norcal: FACE IT.
This is a real article quoting Trump as supporting a mass murderer and thinking he's doing the right thing killing drug users without a trial and who has killed almost 5,000 people in the past 6 months.
Your hero believes mass murder is ok.
I will look up more evidence to support that this happened, and I bet you I'll find it.
If I don't, I'll admit it and say I was wrong, but I doubt that will happen.
I won't probably find all the other sources tonight, but I bet I will within a few days.
I'll straight up say this:
I fully believe Trump can and probably will do some good things as president.
There's no way that he won't be able to accomplish ANYTHING good as president for 4 years.
I bet he has some good ideas, especially regarding job growth, and he'll do some good things.
That doesn't mean I do not fully believe he'll do far more bad things than good, which I do, but i still think he will probably do at least a few good things as president and I REALLY hope he does cause he's our fucking president now.
But that being said, I can't ignore shit like this.
Duerte is about as evil as they get.
He has been having THOUSANDS of people murdered not only by police but other civilians in cold blood without a trial for the mere SUSPICION of them not necessarily even being drug dealers, but even drug USERS.
And IF this article is correct, Trump believes what he is doing is ok.
That's BEYOND fucked up.
Oh and on a totally different note, but a way Trump has already fucked up: I was watching MSNBC last night and did you know that Trump took a phone call from the president of Taiwan, which is the first time we've communicated with Taiwan since 1972, because we don't want to get involved with the conflict between China and Taiwan out of fear of influencing a war between two countries who have a LOT of turmoil between them?
His taking that phone call was a screw up, because it could essentially be saying "we as the United States don't mind communicating with China's enemy" which could THEORETICALLY lead to the assumption that we support them.
Now you can brush off his taking that phone call as no big thing, but there's got to be reasons why we have avoided talking to Taiwan since 1972.
So it was probably not the greatest thing to have done.
But that's just an entirely different screw up.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 5, 2016 1:11:08 GMT -5
THEY ARE NOT QUOTING TRUMP... READ THE ARTICLE. OMFG YOU HAVE TO BE A TROLL.
THEY ARE QUOTING DUTERTE!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 1:11:26 GMT -5
Toehold... those are not quotes, it was what Duarte said trump said... you are embarrassing yourself again here. He said he supported the things that Duarte is doing and wants to work with him. Direct quotes or not, this happened. I think you are embarrassing yourself, not acknowledging that this happened. "Oh, but those aren't direct quotes" so that means if he said he agreed with Duarte on mass murder being ok it's fine. This is proof this happened dude. I don't know what else to say. I will look for other sources, but IF this is legit, would you be willing to admit it's pretty fucked up that Trump supports the actions of a mass murderer and wants to work together with him??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 1:15:52 GMT -5
THEY ARE NOT QUOTING TRUMP... READ THE ARTICLE. OMFG YOU HAVE TO BE A TROLL. THEY ARE QUOTING DUTERTE!!! It doesn't fucking matter UNLESS this is not sufficient proof that this happened. You can try to claim it's not, but this is all an account of what was said between the two of them. They said that Trump said he supports Duarte and wished him success and wants to work with him. If ANY of that is true, it's BEYOND fucked up. So your point is what?? That this isn't sufficient evidence it happened because they aren't "direct quotes"? IF we can buy that, and you can PROVE he didn't agree with Duerte, then that's the only leg you can stand on. But this article, if it's legit, is proof that Trump agrees with Duarte's mass murdering and is ok with it. I will look for more evidence, but really, I don't know what else to say here. If the article is legit, then this is right in front of your eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 1:17:11 GMT -5
You see Elizabeth Warren on the Anderson Cooper show Friday? Same shit. How many times can you get the words "bigotry, white supremacy, and racism" out of your mouth in 2 min? Ready . . . GO!!!! It was kind of embarrassing. Get some new material, guys. Good god. Anderson even called her on some of it. It's an Onion article come to life. It's also a big part of the reason they just lost huge swaths of state legislature, congressional, and presidential power across the nation. So, response? Re-hire Pelosi and double-down on -ism and -phobic social justice war drums. I'm not sure what you are responding to?? Did you mean to post this in this thread? I never mentioned bigotry or white supremacy, I'm mentioning that Trump supports the actions of a mass murderer.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 5, 2016 1:17:49 GMT -5
Toehold told me that he "agrees that pedophiles should be given a yearly stipend for child porn to keep their urges in check"
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