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Post by Angelo on Oct 4, 2016 15:52:13 GMT -5
Guccifer 2.0 made a massive info dump from his hack of the Clinton Foundation today. 850mb roughly. I haven't seen anything yet summarizing it though, they probably still working through it.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 4, 2016 16:01:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure how legit this is, but based on some of the data combed through, it looks like everyone that received TARP funds paid a percentage of them to the Clinton Foundation.
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Post by Baph on Oct 4, 2016 23:49:31 GMT -5
Time is getting short. This whole thing is really just surreal. What a spectacle. What a fucking clown show. This sycophantic cult, this celebrity obsessed tribal frenzy, with fraud and distortion and cut-throat sabotage every step of the way. This is how we decide who gets to nominate judges and veto bills and steer the machine. Jesus. Fucking lunacy, man.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 0:46:21 GMT -5
Missed the VP debate. Now 0-for-2 on debates.
The scuttlebutt is that Kaine was an ADHD whack job who fidgeted for 90 minutes, interrupted everyone, had almost Turrets like moments of just blurting words and sounds out, and came off neurotic and slightly un-hinged. Pence was generic but composed and presidential. And with Hitlary's health, this shit might actually matter. Not a good look for a potential successor to a psychopathic bitch with a heart condition and regular fainting spells who will turn 73 in office.
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Post by PatSox on Oct 5, 2016 6:10:51 GMT -5
Missed the VP debate. Now 0-for-2 on debates. The scuttlebutt is that Kaine was an ADHD whack job who fidgeted for 90 minutes, interrupted everyone, had almost Turrets like moments of just blurting words and sounds out, and came off neurotic and slightly un-hinged. Pence was generic but composed and presidential. And with Hitlary's health, this shit might actually matter. Not a good look for a potential successor to a psychopathic bitch with a heart condition and regular fainting spells who will turn 73 in office. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you were referring to the other debate
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 6:32:30 GMT -5
Tourette's.
I think.
But I'm not sure.
Google it, James.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 6:45:44 GMT -5
I suppose our unelected, self-appointed Fourth Branch of Government -- otherwise known as Mainstream News Media -- will be declaring this juvenile show of attacks and distractions (wrapped up in good 'ol class warfare) to be a victory for Kaine.
God, what a travesty.
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Post by peAk on Oct 5, 2016 8:23:45 GMT -5
That fucking moderator.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 11:35:53 GMT -5
Missed the VP debate. Now 0-for-2 on debates. The scuttlebutt is that Kaine was an ADHD whack job who fidgeted for 90 minutes, interrupted everyone, had almost Turrets like moments of just blurting words and sounds out, and came off neurotic and slightly un-hinged. Pence was generic but composed and presidential. And with Hitlary's health, this shit might actually matter. Not a good look for a potential successor to a psychopathic bitch with a heart condition and regular fainting spells who will turn 73 in office. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you were referring to the other debate That's an interesting comment, because the VP debate appears to be a sort of exaggerated caricature of the 1st debate, only with the sides swapped. Hitlary and Pence seemed calm, slightly boring, C-Span discussion style. Trump and Kaine seemed over-caffinated, raw, unfocused, and Kaine at times seemed almost manic like a tween on a sugar rush when you're trying to watch a show and the won't STFU.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 11:38:27 GMT -5
That moderator got mowed over like the putting green at Augusta. That was absolutely brutal.
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Post by rearnakedmolerat on Oct 5, 2016 12:35:44 GMT -5
Missed the VP debate. Now 0-for-2 on debates. The scuttlebutt is that Kaine was an ADHD whack job who fidgeted for 90 minutes, interrupted everyone, had almost Turrets like moments of just blurting words and sounds out, and came off neurotic and slightly un-hinged. Pence was generic but composed and presidential. And with Hitlary's health, this shit might actually matter. Not a good look for a potential successor to a psychopathic bitch with a heart condition and regular fainting spells who will turn 73 in office. In other words "I didn't watch it but I heard that what happened aligns with what my political ideology would want." For someone who constantly bitches about media bias and informed people using preformed opinions as fact rather than analyzing information, this is a bold post to make. ...is bold the right word?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 12:44:35 GMT -5
I didn't watch the VP debate. Mostly because my mind is already made up and I don't really care what the second fiddles had to say. I've paid more attention than any of my friends have up to this point. Unless there is some kind of significant event, and it would have to be very significant- I'm voting for Hillary.
Just kidding. I'm not a fucking retard.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 15:11:24 GMT -5
Missed the VP debate. Now 0-for-2 on debates. The scuttlebutt is that Kaine was an ADHD whack job who fidgeted for 90 minutes, interrupted everyone, had almost Turrets like moments of just blurting words and sounds out, and came off neurotic and slightly un-hinged. Pence was generic but composed and presidential. And with Hitlary's health, this shit might actually matter. Not a good look for a potential successor to a psychopathic bitch with a heart condition and regular fainting spells who will turn 73 in office. In other words "I didn't watch it but I heard that what happened aligns with what my political ideology would want." For someone who constantly bitches about media bias and informed people using preformed opinions as fact rather than analyzing information, this is a bold post to make. ...is bold the right word? Bold is fine; the summary of action is off. I don't need to sit through a 90 minute dildobate in order to understand what happened. Neither do you. It's not a physics lecture. It's hack politics 101. Read a recap from the right, read a recap from the left, watch 2-3 clips, you get a really good indication of what happened. CNN's Tapper said almost word-for-word what I said. Bloomberg said there were 57 interruptions of Pence and 22 interruptions of the moderator by Kaine and that he seemed spastic. Outside of the progressive pom pom squad, the consensus was that Pence was composed, generic, and neo-con, visions of Dick Cheney, and Kaine was wound-up, fidgety, and impulsive, visions of Howard Dean. You could not pay me to sit through 90 minutes of a fucking VP debate. Nor is it necessary to stay abreast of what these turds laid down.
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Post by PatSox on Oct 5, 2016 17:30:21 GMT -5
If I was moderating that thing, I would have asked both of them, "Does it make you feel cheap and slutty to know that the only reason your running mate chose you was because they wanted to win your state?"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 17:46:14 GMT -5
Basically Kaine acted like Trump and Pence acted like Clinton in their first debates??? Cool.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 5, 2016 17:54:57 GMT -5
This recent shit about how they think Hillary has Parkinsons because she likes to nod, and a staffer did research into provigal (which while can be used in relation to that, a lot of people take for improved cognitive functions), is bull. I doubt she'd be able to hide an advanced parkinsons diagnosis this long, on top of which it doesn't affect mental capabilities which is what is needed for the job.
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Post by PatSox on Oct 5, 2016 20:01:26 GMT -5
This recent shit about how they think Hillary has Parkinsons because she likes to nod, and a staffer did research into provigal (which while can be used in relation to that, a lot of people take for improved cognitive functions), is bull. I doubt she'd be able to hide an advanced parkinsons diagnosis this long, on top of which it doesn't affect mental capabilities which is what is needed for the job. I'd vote in that canadian midget, Michael J. Fox, tomorrow, if it meant no Trump or Hillary
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Post by Angelo on Oct 5, 2016 20:03:00 GMT -5
This recent shit about how they think Hillary has Parkinsons because she likes to nod, and a staffer did research into provigal (which while can be used in relation to that, a lot of people take for improved cognitive functions), is bull. I doubt she'd be able to hide an advanced parkinsons diagnosis this long, on top of which it doesn't affect mental capabilities which is what is needed for the job. I'd vote in that canadian midget, Michael J. Fox, tomorrow, if it meant no Trump or Hillary I'd vote for the candidate that would push for term limits for ALL elected positions.
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Post by rearnakedmolerat on Oct 5, 2016 21:15:38 GMT -5
In other words "I didn't watch it but I heard that what happened aligns with what my political ideology would want." For someone who constantly bitches about media bias and informed people using preformed opinions as fact rather than analyzing information, this is a bold post to make. ...is bold the right word? Bold is fine; the summary of action is off. I don't need to sit through a 90 minute dildobate in order to understand what happened. Neither do you. It's not a physics lecture. It's hack politics 101. Read a recap from the right, read a recap from the left, watch 2-3 clips, you get a really good indication of what happened. CNN's Tapper said almost word-for-word what I said. Bloomberg said there were 57 interruptions of Pence and 22 interruptions of the moderator by Kaine and that he seemed spastic. Outside of the progressive pom pom squad, the consensus was that Pence was composed, generic, and neo-con, visions of Dick Cheney, and Kaine was wound-up, fidgety, and impulsive, visions of Howard Dean. You could not pay me to sit through 90 minutes of a fucking VP debate. Nor is it necessary to stay abreast of what these turds laid down. Nothing of what they say is necessary. I'm sure as fuck not trying to convince you to waste your time watching it. That's not the point. You're expressing an opinion on something not based on actual first hand knowledge of what happened, but rather based on having it filtered by other sources. And - shockingly - the sources you have decided are reliable happen to say things that align with your worldview. Even better, in the above response, you automatically disregard opinions to the contrary again not based on evidence that you obtained but based on some vague political allegiance. You are what you claim to hate.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 22:32:11 GMT -5
That's a biiiiiig reach. When Libertarian Republic, CNN, and Fox all agree on a polarized L vs. R topic, it's a good bet there's something to it. The alternative is that there was some nuance or critical substance in the fine texture of this '90 minute talking point memorization contest' that I missed out on. Or that vital aspects of the discussion were uniformly omitted by all the rival news organizations. And that the half-a-dozen highlights were not characteristic of the debate as a whole. That is so wildly unlikely it's not even worth entertaining. About as unlikely as mainstream media and on-line news sites catering to anarchistic radical worldviews. Sometimes a spade is just a spade.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 23:26:55 GMT -5
I found this pretty shocking and frankly rather sad in regard to what it says about our culture then vs now. In 1997 Trump openly wrote about his now infamous $900-million loss and the NYT, now doing hit-jobs with illegally leaked tax returns on the same fucking story, already published it back in '97 as an inspirational story of resilience, comeback, moxy, and NYC toughness. Guess '97 wasn't an election year. Chapter 1: The Billion Dollar Loss
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Post by Angelo on Oct 5, 2016 23:34:52 GMT -5
I found this pretty shocking and frankly rather sad in regard to what it says about our culture then vs now. In 1997 Trump openly wrote about his now infamous $900-million loss and the NYT, now doing hit-jobs with illegally leaked tax returns on the same fucking story, already published it back in '97 as an inspirational story of resilience, comeback, moxy, and NYC toughness. Guess '97 wasn't an election year. Chapter 1: The Billion Dollar Loss Do you also find it shocking that for the last 30+ years (minus the last two since he aimed for the presidency) has had political views that would be deemed more liberal than Clinton?
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 23:34:59 GMT -5
State dept loses $6 billion, wire taps the world, and violates international arms accords by running guns into Libya and Syria to agitate civil wars . . . but Trump called some cunt Ms. Piggy so . . . yeah, let's fucking riot. www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/05/doj-abruptly-drops-case-against-gun-runner-who-threatened-to-reveal-clintons-libya-dealings.htmlThe idea of using private security experts to arm the opposition should be considered," Clinton wrote, using her private email address. Significantly, the emails released by the State Department blacked out this line, but the version given to the Benghazi Select Committee was complete. Turi got approval to sell arms to Qatar – which was apparently cover for sending weapons to Libya - in May, 2011. But in July 2011, his Arizona home was raided by federal agents. "They came in the full body armor, and weapons and, they take my computers and my cellphones and that was it. That was the last time I saw them. And they've been chasing me all over the world for the past three years, speaking to associates of mine all over the United States and looking into my records and my past." "It was then, and remains now, my opinion that the United States did participate, directly or indirectly, in the supply of weapons to the Libyan Transitional National Council," career CIA officer David Manners said in a sworn declaration dated May 5, 2015. The timing was critical, because in the spring of 2011, the Libyan opposition was not formally recognized, and the direct supply of arms was not authorized. At that time, the CIA director was David Petraeus.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 23:36:31 GMT -5
Do you also find it shocking that for the last 30+ years (minus the last two since he aimed for the presidency) has had political views that would be deemed more liberal than Clinton? No, I don't find that even the least bit shocking. Are you trying to be clever? He's a NYC socialite now making a move for a national office riding anti-establishment sentiment. I expect this to play out exactly as it has. And why is that any more shocking than liberal Hitlary being a drug warrior, drone bomber, wall builder, super-predator hunter, pedophile acquittal winner, wall street whore in bed with Russia, Saudi, and happy to be the hit man for her serial rapist husband? She's like a super powered neo-con for fuck's sake. None of this makes sense. None of it is supposed to make sense.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 5, 2016 23:51:27 GMT -5
No, I don't find that even the least bit shocking. Are you trying to be clever? No not clever, I just don't think a lot of these podunk trailer park faux conservatives realize though that while Trump has exploited the laws to his benefit over the years, he's always been from an ideological standpoint very liberal (from a modern view). He wants universal healthcare, he wants decreased military spending, he wants increased immigration, etc.... This white hood KKK stuff is very new and makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 23:55:47 GMT -5
Just watched part of the vp debates. I really, really like this Pence guy. This is the chess player of the bunch. This is the guy that can be the man behind the man.
I'm all about this guy. Cold and calculated. Articulated. Somewhat witty...in an appropriate manner. Made Kaine look like a beta cuck. And made it look easy.
No matter what happens this election, I hope Pence tries to run in 2020.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 5, 2016 23:58:44 GMT -5
Just watched part of the vp debates. I really, really like this Pence guy. This is the chess player of the bunch. This is the guy that can be the man behind the man. I'm all about this guy. Cold and calculated. Articulated. Somewhat witty...in an appropriate manner. Made Kaine look like a beta cuck. And made it look easy. No matter what happens this election, I hope Pence tries to run in 2020. The dude is 100% out of date fratboy, this was a trained appearance, dancing monkey.
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Post by Baph on Oct 5, 2016 23:59:04 GMT -5
Just watched part of the vp debates. I really, really like this Pence guy. This is the chess player of the bunch. This is the guy that can be the man behind the man. I'm all about this guy. Cold and calculated. Articulated. Somewhat witty...in an appropriate manner. Made Kaine look like a beta cuck. And made it look easy. No matter what happens this election, I hope Pence tries to run in 2020. How much did you watch and what was your impression of Kaine? Please be as detailed as possible.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 6, 2016 0:01:43 GMT -5
Pence is there for one reason, and one reason only, so the RNC wouldn't cut ties. It is simple as that. OC knows this if he's as connected as he says he is. It is the biggest open secret of the RNC and defense industry.
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Post by Baph on Oct 6, 2016 0:02:30 GMT -5
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