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Post by CaveBearOG on Oct 17, 2016 16:43:14 GMT -5
On the pot subject. It does have uses medically and it will have more medicinal uses as laws allow it to be as lax as booze laws. Opiates and benzodiazepines are majorly abused in this country and wreak more havoc in one year than all the pot ever consumed on this planet since time has begun. Ive smoked of and on for years, never addicted to it in anyway. I smoked 10 times more after the arm, because it actually was the only thing that eased the phantom pain. Still no addiction. It's basically not brought up in treatment centers anymore other than the fact that it could lower ones inhibitions to where one might pick up their poison of choice. In my area of the states you can't even get in to inpatient treatment for smoking pot.
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Post by soundoff on Oct 17, 2016 16:46:33 GMT -5
so is Jackel working for someone or not? If I can get a vehicle by the end of the month I'm working for Daywork. I'm going to be starting NIMS training soon, probably won't open up any jobs but, but it'll be good to have.how does one acquire a vehicle without a job?
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Post by daywork on Oct 17, 2016 16:58:05 GMT -5
I'm with Kyle on a lot of what he is saying. But if I could, I would sell the shit out of weed. I'll make as much money as I could off of the lazy weedheads Hell, I'd even deliver it so they could stay lazy. My wife smokes when she gets bad migraines. Most of the time the weed takes away the pain when nothing else will. So yes, I do believe there can be good found in weed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 16:58:21 GMT -5
That's gonna be a negative, Ghost Rider.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 17, 2016 16:59:39 GMT -5
If I can get a vehicle by the end of the month I'm working for Daywork. I'm going to be starting NIMS training soon, probably won't open up any jobs but, but it'll be good to have.how does one acquire a vehicle without a job? It isn't easy, trying to hustle it up as Bobo says.
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Post by soundoff on Oct 17, 2016 17:01:43 GMT -5
Ask Sporty for a "loan"...
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Post by daywork on Oct 17, 2016 17:03:34 GMT -5
On the pot subject. It does have uses medically and it will have more medicinal uses as laws allow it to be as lax as booze laws. Opiates and benzodiazepines are majorly abused in this country and wreak more havoc in one year than all the pot ever consumed on this planet since time has begun. Ive smoked of and on for years, never addicted to it in anyway. I smoked 10 times more after the arm, because it actually was the only thing that eased the phantom pain. Still no addiction. It's basically not brought up in treatment centers anymore other than the fact that it could lower ones inhibitions to where one might pick up their poison of choice. In my area of the states you can't even get in to inpatient treatment for smoking pot. Do you still smoke weed?
But Bear does bring up a question. I always hear weed isn't addictive. Yet people can't stop smoking it, can't quit just like cigs.
Is weed smoking addictive?
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Post by peAk on Oct 17, 2016 17:09:22 GMT -5
Mentally maybe, definitely not physically
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Post by epk on Oct 17, 2016 17:13:25 GMT -5
so is Jackel working for someone or not? Not just no. Fuuuuuck no.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 17:15:16 GMT -5
Mentally maybe, definitely not physically I couldn't tell if you were talking about weed or Jackel's employment...
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Oct 17, 2016 17:23:02 GMT -5
Weed is not addictive, I've quit when I had to. From one day to the next. Twice in my lifetime. For long periods. There are addictive personalities and it doesn't matter what they are consuming, even food. I've known people who've had a harder time quitting Dr Pepper than cigarettes.
People are still buying into the reefer madness, it's hilarious.
I've seem more lazy drunks than I've seen lazy potheads. The dozens of potheads I Colorado that I know are some of the most hardest working people I know.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Oct 17, 2016 17:25:55 GMT -5
On the pot subject. It does have uses medically and it will have more medicinal uses as laws allow it to be as lax as booze laws. Opiates and benzodiazepines are majorly abused in this country and wreak more havoc in one year than all the pot ever consumed on this planet since time has begun. Ive smoked of and on for years, never addicted to it in anyway. I smoked 10 times more after the arm, because it actually was the only thing that eased the phantom pain. Still no addiction. It's basically not brought up in treatment centers anymore other than the fact that it could lower ones inhibitions to where one might pick up their poison of choice. In my area of the states you can't even get in to inpatient treatment for smoking pot. Do you still smoke weed?
But Bear does bring up a question. I always hear weed isn't addictive. Yet people can't stop smoking it, can't quit just like cigs.
Is weed smoking addictive?
No I don't.nor will I. I can't afford to let my guard down. And I agree, mentally it could be, def no physical addiction
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Post by peAk on Oct 17, 2016 17:31:56 GMT -5
I quit smoking weed 15 years ago cause of the industry I work in and random drug tests.
It was easy to quit IMO.
While I miss it sometimes, quitting was good for my life and not staying stagnant.
That said, music creativity and weed go hand in hand and I miss that a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 17:32:58 GMT -5
When traveling, I don't risk it so I just go without. No big deal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 17:42:59 GMT -5
I'm with Kyle on a lot of what he is saying. But if I could, I would sell the shit out of weed. I'll make as much money as I could off of the lazy weedheads Hell, I'd even deliver it so they could stay lazy. My wife smokes when she gets bad migraines. Most of the time the weed takes away the pain when nothing else will. So yes, I do believe there can be good found in weed. You think Texas will every legalize it?
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Post by Angelo on Oct 17, 2016 17:46:04 GMT -5
I'm with Kyle on a lot of what he is saying. But if I could, I would sell the shit out of weed. I'll make as much money as I could off of the lazy weedheads Hell, I'd even deliver it so they could stay lazy. My wife smokes when she gets bad migraines. Most of the time the weed takes away the pain when nothing else will. So yes, I do believe there can be good found in weed. You think Texas will every legalize it? They are becoming bluer by the day, the problem is a lot of tobacco money still influences both sides down there. I don't think they'll object to the feds legalizing it, but if everything went state-to-state it'll probably be one of the last 10.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 17:49:16 GMT -5
I don't see it going legal in Texas anytime soon...
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Oct 17, 2016 17:58:12 GMT -5
I think sooner than people think. I thought Arizona would never become a medical state
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 18:02:23 GMT -5
Yeah good call on AZ. I didn't see that coming but I also think places like PX have changed with the times.
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Post by peAk on Oct 17, 2016 18:04:40 GMT -5
I don't see it going legal in Texas anytime soon... This We can't buy liquor at the grocery stores here, can't buy alcohol before 12 on Sunday Legal weed isn't happening anytime soon
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Post by Angelo on Oct 17, 2016 18:12:51 GMT -5
I don't see it going legal in Texas anytime soon... This We can't buy liquor at the grocery stores here, can't buy alcohol before 12 on Sunday Legal weed isn't happening anytime soon Nobody down there even attempting to challenge the blue laws in court? Or pushing their reps for changes? That how we finally got liquor stores allowed to be open on Sundays (though still have to be closed 1 day a week, but at least they choose the day). Nobody pushing to become one of the 3 TABC regulators? They could change that almost overnight then.
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Post by daywork on Oct 17, 2016 18:37:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think they will legalize it anytime soon in Texas.
I have a office in Arkansas, They are much closer to passing it. If I opened a place, it would be out there.
As much as I would love to sell it and make a lot of money, I kind of know I would be in way over my head with that stuff. Running the business all legit wouldn't be the problem. Its hiring the right people to grow and cut and all the other stuff would be a issue for me. Because I know very little about weed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 20:23:20 GMT -5
And you're telling me the majority of them are worthless? God damnit you pothead, pay attention. I said... "I am not saying all or most, just a lot". Yes, weed turns a lot of people into lazy stoners with no motivation. It also means that much of the population is driving, parenting, working high... which can't be good in my opinion. For those that bring up alcohol... just because one drug (alcohol) is legal and bad for our culture, doesn't mean we should just automatically make another one legal. Based on my logic, 2 legalized substances that have negative effects on our society are worse than just 1. You must not be paying attention, I'm not a pothead and haven't smoked much in years. Too busy with full-time school, full-time work, AND Running a part-time business. But where I disagree with you is that pot MAKES people lazy. In my experience, you are either lazy or you aren't. Pot never made me or any of my friends lazy. The only stereotype that is true with weed in my experience is the munchies, and even that is dependent on the strain. Lazy people may seek out pot, but that doesn't mean the pot made them lazy. They were lazy regardless. Pot is just a really easy drug for lazy people to do. You see a lazy person who smokes pot and assume the weed made them lazy. I'd bet you $100 you take their weed away and 6 months later they are STILL lazy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 23:00:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think they will legalize it anytime soon in Texas. I have a office in Arkansas, They are much closer to passing it. If I opened a place, it would be out there. As much as I would love to sell it and make a lot of money, I kind of know I would be in way over my head with that stuff. Running the business all legit wouldn't be the problem. Its hiring the right people to grow and cut and all the other stuff would be a issue for me. Because I know very little about weed. Seeing the people that migrate here during the August-October months to trim during the harvest would make you never want to have to hire people for the job. I deal a lot with pot growers in my business because they do a lot of work on their houses as they always have cash that needs to get spent. 9/10 times the people are just weird/odd and lead a very paranoid life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 23:07:12 GMT -5
God damnit you pothead, pay attention. I said... "I am not saying all or most, just a lot". Yes, weed turns a lot of people into lazy stoners with no motivation. It also means that much of the population is driving, parenting, working high... which can't be good in my opinion. For those that bring up alcohol... just because one drug (alcohol) is legal and bad for our culture, doesn't mean we should just automatically make another one legal. Based on my logic, 2 legalized substances that have negative effects on our society are worse than just 1. You must not be paying attention, I'm not a pothead and haven't smoked much in years. Too busy with full-time school, full-time work, AND Running a part-time business. But where I disagree with you is that pot MAKES people lazy. In my experience, you are either lazy or you aren't. Pot never made me or any of my friends lazy. The only stereotype that is true with weed in my experience is the munchies, and even that is dependent on the strain. Lazy people may seek out pot, but that doesn't mean the pot made them lazy. They were lazy regardless. Pot is just a really easy drug for lazy people to do. You see a lazy person who smokes pot and assume the weed made them lazy. I'd bet you $100 you take their weed away and 6 months later they are STILL lazy. You may be right, but in my little world I just don't know anyone who smokes a lot of weed and is a type A go-getter. Most people I know that smoke like to do nothing immediately after getting high, and many of them I would consider extremely lazy. All of the people I know that smoke a lot of weed have messy houses, play video games, and are very inactive during the weekends. Aside from laziness, I just don't love the idea of our population driving and parenting high... call me a prude or whatever but nobody will ever convince me that people are better high than not. Also I will never be convinced that children are better off being raised in a house where weed is prevalent than the inverse.
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Post by purerockfury on Oct 18, 2016 5:04:30 GMT -5
On the pot subject. It does have uses medically and it will have more medicinal uses as laws allow it to be as lax as booze laws. Opiates and benzodiazepines are majorly abused in this country and wreak more havoc in one year than all the pot ever consumed on this planet since time has begun. Ive smoked of and on for years, never addicted to it in anyway. I smoked 10 times more after the arm, because it actually was the only thing that eased the phantom pain. Still no addiction. It's basically not brought up in treatment centers anymore other than the fact that it could lower ones inhibitions to where one might pick up their poison of choice. In my area of the states you can't even get in to inpatient treatment for smoking pot. Do you still smoke weed?
But Bear does bring up a question. I always hear weed isn't addictive. Yet people can't stop smoking it, can't quit just like cigs.
Is weed smoking addictive?
I smoked weed regularly for 16 years and last October my work passed around papers for us to sign stating that they can and will give a random test without warning if they think there is reason to. Even though, there is a .2% chance of my boss actually doing that to us, I quit cold turkey and have not smoked since then. Plus, my building looks to be on life support so I'll probably be needing another job soon and have a job waiting for me in another machine shop and can't risk having weed in my system when I go to piss for them. I love smoking weed and miss it like crazy, but I can't risk it costing me a job.
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Post by soundoff on Oct 18, 2016 9:10:40 GMT -5
can you guys stay on topic, this thread is about Jackel being lazy...focus people...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 9:32:56 GMT -5
You must not be paying attention, I'm not a pothead and haven't smoked much in years. Too busy with full-time school, full-time work, AND Running a part-time business. But where I disagree with you is that pot MAKES people lazy. In my experience, you are either lazy or you aren't. Pot never made me or any of my friends lazy. The only stereotype that is true with weed in my experience is the munchies, and even that is dependent on the strain. Lazy people may seek out pot, but that doesn't mean the pot made them lazy. They were lazy regardless. Pot is just a really easy drug for lazy people to do. You see a lazy person who smokes pot and assume the weed made them lazy. I'd bet you $100 you take their weed away and 6 months later they are STILL lazy. You may be right, but in my little world I just don't know anyone who smokes a lot of weed and is a type A go-getter. Most people I know that smoke like to do nothing immediately after getting high, and many of them I would consider extremely lazy. All of the people I know that smoke a lot of weed have messy houses, play video games, and are very inactive during the weekends. Aside from laziness, I just don't love the idea of our population driving and parenting high... call me a prude or whatever but nobody will ever convince me that people are better high than not. Also I will never be convinced that children are better off being raised in a house where weed is prevalent than the inverse. I agree with a lot of this. I also know the type you are talking about that goes up there looking for work. Not my cup of tea, not at all. I agree about the kid thing as well. My nephew is 9 and to this day has never and not until he is way older will he see smoke come out of my mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 11:58:37 GMT -5
Definitely-kids don't have a place seeing that stuff. No disagreement there. Then again, I really don't like being around my kid if I'm not sober. Too easy to get mad at a kid for the littlest nuisance. So I tend not to drink around my daughter either.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 13:51:40 GMT -5
If I'm a little stoney, I'll work with my nephew on rockets, jiujitsu, his homework etc.
I don't like to drink around him.
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