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Post by purerockfury on Oct 14, 2016 3:20:36 GMT -5
I am very curious to see what happens to the weed industry over the next few years. I personally hate weed and think it is going to do more for ruining our country than all other drugs combined, however it's going to be legal in 50 states eventually and there is no sense in fighting it. California is going to legalize it in November and there is already a ridiculous amount of infrastructure in place for commercial grow operations. Very large companies have been buying up property and green houses in anticipation of November, and even the Indians are putting huge money in to warehouses and outdoor grow properties. California is going to be producing an insane amount of weed starting almost immediately, and I am not sure what that is going to do to the market across the country... cause there will be a major surplus here. This has to be the most hillbilly thing ever said on this (or weekly) forum's history. lol You're better than this Kyle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 5:44:43 GMT -5
As someone who has been around alcoholics and been around stoners....the alcoholics are WAY worse for this country. Alcohol IS the worst drug in this country, and it's not even close.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 7:34:19 GMT -5
I am very curious to see what happens to the weed industry over the next few years. I personally hate weed and think it is going to do more for ruining our country than all other drugs combined, however it's going to be legal in 50 states eventually and there is no sense in fighting it. California is going to legalize it in November and there is already a ridiculous amount of infrastructure in place for commercial grow operations. Very large companies have been buying up property and green houses in anticipation of November, and even the Indians are putting huge money in to warehouses and outdoor grow properties. California is going to be producing an insane amount of weed starting almost immediately, and I am not sure what that is going to do to the market across the country... cause there will be a major surplus here. You seriously think weed will ruin the country more than anything else? Alcohol? Heroine? Crack? At least marijuana has a lot of medical uses with a no chance of overdose. I know you live in California and experience it but travel to a state where it's legal all around. The refer madness is a figment of most old folks imagination... I wouldn't call it overdose but the myth that people haven't died from weed is that, a myth. Granted it is tied to smoking it and not eating it though. There have been several cases of pulmonary hemorrhaging due to weed inhalation. Rare but it happena.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Oct 14, 2016 8:05:07 GMT -5
As someone who has been around alcoholics and been around stoners....the alcoholics are WAY worse for this country. Alcohol IS the worst drug in this country, and it's not even close. stone cold fact right here ^^^^^^^^ the whole pot is a "gateway" drug isnt even recognized by rehabs anymore. alcohol is. sure its a drug, it alters mood, therefore i wont use it, it could lower my guard to where a beer or line of crystal seems "ok".....then its katie bar the door time. ive never fought, been arrested, etc while stoned, ever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 10:28:38 GMT -5
I am very curious to see what happens to the weed industry over the next few years. I personally hate weed and think it is going to do more for ruining our country than all other drugs combined, however it's going to be legal in 50 states eventually and there is no sense in fighting it. California is going to legalize it in November and there is already a ridiculous amount of infrastructure in place for commercial grow operations. Very large companies have been buying up property and green houses in anticipation of November, and even the Indians are putting huge money in to warehouses and outdoor grow properties. California is going to be producing an insane amount of weed starting almost immediately, and I am not sure what that is going to do to the market across the country... cause there will be a major surplus here. Agreed. I bought some agri acreage with water rights in blythe. After seeing the prices shoot up in Palm desert. I'm hoping a grower would like to lease eventually. Right now it's cotton growing and I'm barely getting enough to cover my mortgage...which isn't very high even if they were to move on wouldn't break me. I'm sure you guys remember when I was involved in the ol weed trade. I got over it when the money dropped out but I wanted to plan accordingly...just in case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 12:46:48 GMT -5
Everyone wants to work for tony now. I just want to see the mountain. Well....not everyone. In what could only be described as a shocking turn of events, we still haven't heard from Jackel. And Owl Hill isn't worth the flight bro. But if you were that driven to see it, I'd take you up. You'd be the first Asian...erm I mean Pacific Islander to ever be allowed inside.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:01:08 GMT -5
I am very curious to see what happens to the weed industry over the next few years. I personally hate weed and think it is going to do more for ruining our country than all other drugs combined, however it's going to be legal in 50 states eventually and there is no sense in fighting it. California is going to legalize it in November and there is already a ridiculous amount of infrastructure in place for commercial grow operations. Very large companies have been buying up property and green houses in anticipation of November, and even the Indians are putting huge money in to warehouses and outdoor grow properties. California is going to be producing an insane amount of weed starting almost immediately, and I am not sure what that is going to do to the market across the country... cause there will be a major surplus here. Just curious, but did you have a bad experience smoking the stuff or something? Why do you hate it? Is it just because of the Mexican's who try to grow it on your land? Or something else? I bet when you guys fully legalize it your Mexican problem goes away for good. I don't know how a surplus in one state would affect the national market from a price point standpoint. It might drive down the price in California specifically, but I don't think by very much. The first reason would be that out of state markets (currently) couldn't legally take on any of California's surplus. But the second reason is one of the other interesting wrinkles in this whole situation. Pot's price point was originally so high just because of the universal illegality of the product. But now it will remain high (compared to what it costs to produce) in the states that legalize it because of the federal law against it. Not that the federal law justifies putting a "risk tax" on the customer, but because the bastards are taxing us on our gross. When that changes, I think the price of everything related with the product is going to go down. And you'll see very big business getting into the industry and trying to swallow it. But they'll fail the same way the big breweries failed to eliminate the micro-brew market.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:11:35 GMT -5
I have never smoked weed before. I do believe that weed turns a lot of people in to lazy pieces of shit that are worthless in our society. I am not saying all or most, just a lot.
In my are people grow weed freely even though it is illegal. The DA has decided to basically ignore the laws and there are grow houses in every neighborhood, outdoor grows all over the place, and even quite a few large warehouses that are grow facilities. The culture that is has brought with it is disgusting and has helped diminish the quality of life here. There are transients/hippies/losers all over the place. They gravitate here to work in the weed industry because it sounds cool, and they do nothing but stink up the place and ruin it for everyone else.
There are constant armed robberies at grow houses and quite a few murders related to weed deals gone bad and robbing grow houses. House fires have spiked immensely from grow houses and honey oil labs, and many of those fires have caused innocent neighbors to lose their homes. There was a fire that destroyed over 100 homes that started from an outdoor grow operation having a faulty wiring setup for their drying room.
Our area is proof that legalizing doesn't bring it all out in the open and cause it to be regulated and cleaned up. When it no longer becomes illegal to possess or cultivate you have people all over the place doing it and turning the area in to a place where you would never want to raise your kids. The county that I live in along with the neighboring counties have basically been weed friendly for 10 years, and it has brought only negatives to all aspects of the living environment here.
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Post by HankPNW on Oct 14, 2016 13:21:27 GMT -5
I have never smoked weed before. I do believe that weed turns a lot of people in to lazy pieces of shit that are worthless in our society. I am not saying all or most, just a lot. In my are people grow weed freely even though it is illegal. The DA has decided to basically ignore the laws and there are grow houses in every neighborhood, outdoor grows all over the place, and even quite a few large warehouses that are grow facilities. The culture that is has brought with it is disgusting and has helped diminish the quality of life here. There are transients/hippies/losers all over the place. They gravitate here to work in the weed industry because it sounds cool, and they do nothing but stink up the place and ruin it for everyone else. There are constant armed robberies at grow houses and quite a few murders related to weed deals gone bad and robbing grow houses. House fires have spiked immensely from grow houses and honey oil labs, and many of those fires have caused innocent neighbors to lose their homes. There was a fire that destroyed over 100 homes that started from an outdoor grow operation having a faulty wiring setup for their drying room. Our area is proof that legalizing doesn't bring it all out in the open and cause it to be regulated and cleaned up. When it no longer becomes illegal to possess or cultivate you have people all over the place doing it and turning the area in to a place where you would never want to raise your kids. The county that I live in along with the neighboring counties have basically been weed friendly for 10 years, and it has brought only negatives to all aspects of the living environment here. I think when you realize the stigma that weed makes you lazy is the exception and not the rule, you'll see it differently. It's more like 90% are productive stoners and the 10% are lazy. You also can't blame that on the weed cause those lazy fucks would probably be the same way with, or without cannabis. I've lived in Los Angeles county my whole life, and the cannabis culture has always been very open. Not once have I had the thought that this isn't where I want to raise my kid. If that were the case, the real estate market wouldn't be as booming as it is in SoCal, which refutes what you're saying. Washington, where I live now, is also an amazing place to raise kids. Everyone smokes weed here, and there are no negative side effects on society. I believe drunk driving and crime are also down, similar to what we're seeing in Colorado. It sounds like you kind of live in a bubble, and the few things you've heard about cannabis have been negative. Not actually reality though.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 13:26:28 GMT -5
Everyone wants to work for tony now. I just want to see the mountain. Well....not everyone. In what could only be described as a shocking turn of events, we still haven't heard from Jackel. I know fuck-all about growing/trimming weed. If you have something I can do, or willing to train me, sure. I have never smoked weed before. I do believe that weed turns a lot of people in to lazy pieces of shit that are worthless in our society. This is a strain thing, and it isn't surprising this is the US's prevalent view of weed smokers, that hippy couch locked blahhh hungry munchie stoner thing. My theory, it is because your Indica strains were dominant in the US for a long time, and unlike most Sativa strains, they give that lazy couch locked effect . I'm assuming this is because they were easier to grow in secret being illegal in the US given the size difference. The Sativa strains are, at least in my experience, much more uplifting, energetic, you can function normally on it like super coffee sometimes. One of the big reasons for VA/AMA support of medical legalization is because Sativa heavy strains allow many PTSD sufferers to function normally.
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Post by HankPNW on Oct 14, 2016 14:55:28 GMT -5
Dang Angelo the guy offers you a job and you can't even get on youtube and search "how to trim buds" Show some initiative man! It's not like he's asking you to test the ph run off or anything.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 15:16:14 GMT -5
Dang Angelo the guy offers you a job and you can't even get on youtube and search "how to trim buds" Show some initiative man! It's not like he's asking you to test the ph run off or anything. HAHA. It sucks though, I wish I was like those that can watch a video, see pictures of how to do something then replicate it well. Even with cooking techniques I can't. Always had a block that way. I can get the gist but I've always needed that hands on show me once or twice to grasp it for some reason. I also find it helps a lot when someone describes the ha ptic feedback while they are showing the techniques, helps me to understand are positioning/holding your hands or whatever right relative to the size/strength difference between you and the person you are teaching.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 15:26:12 GMT -5
Hahahahahahahahaha
You can't make shit like this up. Proper example of why our handout system simply turns people worthless. No initiative to work at all. What a shame.
I got on my hands and knees today, just got finsihed, to scrub and polish wood cabinetry. I could care less what I have to do. Doesn't faze me a bit.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 15:44:00 GMT -5
Hahahahahahahahaha You can't make shit like this up. Proper example of why our handout system simply turns people worthless. No initiative to work at all. What a shame. I got on my hands and knees today, just got finsihed, to scrub and polish wood cabinetry. I could care less what I have to do. Doesn't faze me a bit. I never said I cared about what I had to do. I just said I didn't know what to do. I don't know everything, I'm not wikipedia.
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Post by epk on Oct 14, 2016 16:53:31 GMT -5
I don't know everything, I'm not wikipedia. I nearly had a heart attack from laughing at this shit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 16:55:02 GMT -5
I legit lmfaoshismal.
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Post by epk on Oct 14, 2016 17:02:06 GMT -5
I think it is pretty much 100% exposed that jackel: Lies Will never work Is a giant piece of trash Needs the forum. Needs it. No self-respecting human wouldn't just log off forever if his peers unanimously agreed he was a lazy piece of crap. Anyone else would walk away.
Not jackel. Because he can't. 😉
I'm satisfied.
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Post by Canuklehead on Oct 14, 2016 17:02:59 GMT -5
I don't know everything, I'm not wikipedia. I nearly had a heart attack from laughing at this shit. I mean......Is this real life?
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 17:18:06 GMT -5
Needs the forum. Needs it. No self-respecting human wouldn't just log off forever if his peers unanimously agreed he was a lazy piece of crap. Anyone else would walk away. Respect is something given to others, giving it to yourself is just egotistical. I do what I believe is right usually , and I'm glad if someone respects me for it. However no I have no self-respect, never will. It isn't my right to deem myself how I am in someone else's eyes, especially since the idea of respect is subjective in the first place. More importantly though, I don't think anyone considers you anywhere near a peer. Besides, you and others think I'm lazy based on your view on how I live my life by reading some posts here, though anyone who has met me in person knows that I'm not lazy. The only people I know of who think I'm lazy are people here, so that is far from unanimous. That goes for most of my family too, probably because of the restaurants, maybe my mom's military and farm upbringing, no idea. Same with my cousins. Only one I can think of in my family that is lazy is my brother, and he has turned that into an art form.
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 17:19:34 GMT -5
I mean......Is this real life? Speaking of... I just recently learned that Bohemian Rhaspody is one of the best songs to test speakers/headphones with because of the range in it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 17:48:03 GMT -5
Some more Jackelisms. For Peak:
During the Missouri Riots thread (about deceased "Gentle Giant" Michael Brown), Jackel took his customary ultra-liberal position and argued that Brown had been wronged.
That's right: A strongarm robber -- having JUST robbed a convenience store clerk of some Cigarillos, manhandling the small Indian guy when he objected -- was somehow a "victim" to Jackel EVEN AFTER BROWN ASSAULTED THE COP THAT CONFRONTED HIM, PUNCHED HIM INSIDE THE SQUAD CAR AND ATTEMPTED TO TAKE HIS GUN.
Jackel questioned the timing of the radio call just prior to the shooting, wrongly guessing it was staged after the fact. He questioned the "robbery report", claiming that cops in the St.Louis area were all dickheads who constantly harassed HIM! Video confirmed the strongarm robbery.
Jackel then offered the insane opinion that the cop should have aimed at the charging Brown's KNEES (as Wiki told him that cops in Europe do). He further stated that "so far it has worked every time!"
Yes, Angelo/Jackel does indeed live on another plane of reality.
During the thread about Army traitor Bowe Bergdahl, Jackel informed us that Bergdahl should ONLY be charged with AWOL (a relatively benign offense) despite mailing his equipment home, stating his anti- American views in letters and emails, stating he was "ashamed" to be in the military, and disappearing from his post -- DEEP IN A COMBAT ZONE -- and remaining gone for over 30 days. This fool was almost immediately kidnapped by the Taliban as a result and held for five years. His comrades wasted time, at some risk trying to find him!
Jackel's crazy theory was that since Bergdahl was kidnapped immediately after deserting his fellow soldiers, he wasn't "willingly" gone more than 30 days, the usual time limit to establish desertion.
SO, I helpfully copied & pasted the ACTUAL DEFINITION of military desertion in my rebuttal to Angelo-Jackel. It correctly established that INTENT to desert (clearly shown by Bergdahl prior to his departure) was the determining factor....not the 30 day limit.
Jackel spends a pathetic amount of time on these forums, ginning up debates with the stupid positions he takes on many issues. Nothing more than internet trolling & attention whoring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 18:05:57 GMT -5
Looked to see if I could pay an additional annual fee for unlimited background and credit checks. Couldn't find the option to do so.
I am not surprised.
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Oct 14, 2016 18:12:12 GMT -5
One more of Jackel's greatest hits. Claims to be a polymath!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 18:15:32 GMT -5
The hits don't stop til you get a meal ticket
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Post by Angelo on Oct 14, 2016 19:00:46 GMT -5
Looked to see if I could pay an additional annual fee for unlimited background and credit checks. Couldn't find the option to do so. I am not surprised. I don't remember the service we used, it was 10-11 years ago, but was a yearly subscription for about 5 or 6 thousand. Included credit, background on both civil and criminal for state and federal, red flagged addresses, and property ownerships. What was neat was they also did credit checks on any businesses they were an owner of, and I know of one person I was working with that it allowed them to find out the person they were dealing with was running an AKA business and their personal credit was smoke and mirrors. Granted we didn't always receive a credit check as that is the one piece of data you actually need permission to run.
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Post by epk on Oct 14, 2016 19:46:24 GMT -5
Needs the forum. Needs it. No self-respecting human wouldn't just log off forever if his peers unanimously agreed he was a lazy piece of crap. Anyone else would walk away. Respect is something given to others, giving it to yourself is just egotistical. I do what I believe is right usually , and I'm glad if someone respects me for it. However no I have no self-respect, never will. It isn't my right to deem myself how I am in someone else's eyes, especially since the idea of respect is subjective in the first place. More importantly though, I don't think anyone considers you anywhere near a peer. Besides, you and others think I'm lazy based on your view on how I live my life by reading some posts here, though anyone who has met me in person knows that I'm not lazy. The only people I know of who think I'm lazy are people here, so that is far from unanimous. That goes for most of my family too, probably because of the restaurants, maybe my mom's military and farm upbringing, no idea. Same with my cousins. Only one I can think of in my family that is lazy is my brother, and he has turned that into an art form. Brah. Huh? First, real life my ass. You are approaching 500 posts on a forum with like, 30 active members. This is your reality. Second. You don't have a job. And, apparently you don't even get welfare or disability or unemployment? So, you are too lazy to even be a shitbag. Third. You certainly have time for your internet addiction and video games. So, you are only hampered by your (lack of) desire. Laziness.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 6:11:19 GMT -5
"Discipline determines your destiny, not your desire."
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Post by PatSox on Oct 15, 2016 10:11:53 GMT -5
"Discipline determines your destiny, not your desire."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 10:58:56 GMT -5
I have neither the discipline nor the desire to do such a thing.
And besides, my name's not Howard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 13:27:44 GMT -5
Posting from the dump, on a Saturday morning. Just saying...
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