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Post by verbal0knit on Sept 11, 2018 9:53:28 GMT -5
Ok, on this year's 9/11 anniversary comes an epic rematch 17 years in the making.
The birds are back in the sky and the towers have been rebuilt, time for round 2!
So who wins the rematch and how??
In the red corner, we have this 110 story mega building with a steel and concrete reinforced spine, sporting a chain mail exterior also made from steel... And in the blue corner, we have this hollow aluminum plane. Larry says to get your popcorn ready because this is gonna to be one helluva show! Israeli art students are granted security passes to the wtc complex in 2001. Pictured with them on the 91st floor are detonators. www.newnationalist.net/2017/09/world-trade-centers-infamous-91st-floor-israeli-art-student-project/*Let us never forget the people who died this day and all the people who still continue to be adversely affected due to the events that unfolded on this day. Rip.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Sept 11, 2018 12:47:11 GMT -5
I have this wild theory that the Saudis and Israelis are secretly best friends...
Think about it folks.
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Post by slaytan on Sept 11, 2018 13:56:23 GMT -5
I have this wild theory that the Saudis and Israelis are secretly best friends... Think about it folks. It would not be surprising. (slight digression follows) Jews were total Habibs 100 years ago. If you dont believe me, look at the mugshots from every communist bomber or assasin in America (there were shitloads, you just havent heard about it because they are absent from movies and textbooks) or Europe 1880- 1920. 75+%of the perps were jewish, and they looked like a cross between Groucho Marx, Corporal Klinger, and Osama Bin Laden. Because they made money, they bred with sexy white women and their progeny look like Jerry Seinfeld.
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Post by Baph on Sept 12, 2018 14:23:51 GMT -5
The complexity of the conspiracy required for a controlled demolition defies credulity. It's fucking absurd. Now . . . knowing it was planned and turning a blind eye so you could get your war boner off in the aftermath . . . I'm 100% on board with that theory, and the 17 years later, never forget, except we all forgot what we're doing, where, why, and to what end . . . speaks volumes to what the intent always was: vague, nameless, faceless, perma-war in some far off land with no objectives, timelines, or end game.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Sept 12, 2018 14:57:38 GMT -5
The complexity of the conspiracy required for a controlled demolition defies credulity. It's fucking absurd. Now . . . knowing it was planned and turning a blind eye so you could get your war boner off in the aftermath . . . I'm 100% on board with that theory, and the 17 years later, never forget, except we all forgot what we're doing, where, why, and to what end . . . speaks volumes to what the intent always was: vague, nameless, faceless, perma-war in some far off land with no objectives, timelines, or end game. With you on this.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Sept 12, 2018 15:09:01 GMT -5
this
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Post by slaytan on Sept 12, 2018 15:58:23 GMT -5
The complexity of the conspiracy required for a controlled demolition defies credulity. It's fucking absurd. Now . . . knowing it was planned and turning a blind eye so you could get your war boner off in the aftermath . . . I'm 100% on board with that theory, and the 17 years later, never forget, except we all forgot what we're doing, where, why, and to what end . . . speaks volumes to what the intent always was: vague, nameless, faceless, perma-war in some far off land with no objectives, timelines, or end game. Yeah, I'm totally om board with a conspiracy theory, but that conspiracy culminated in PLANES STRIKING THE TARGETS. On this subject again, how WACKO would anyone sounded if, on 9/12/01, they told you 1) Muslims are going to be continuously stream into the country from now on 2) The very next American leader will be named Baraq Hussein Obama It would have sounded like a prediction of war, with us the loser
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 17:18:11 GMT -5
The complexity of the conspiracy required for a controlled demolition defies credulity. It's fucking absurd. Now . . . knowing it was planned and turning a blind eye so you could get your war boner off in the aftermath . . . I'm 100% on board with that theory, and the 17 years later, never forget, except we all forgot what we're doing, where, why, and to what end . . . speaks volumes to what the intent always was: vague, nameless, faceless, perma-war in some far off land with no objectives, timelines, or end game. Yeah, I'm totally om board with a conspiracy theory, but that conspiracy culminated in PLANES STRIKING THE TARGETS. On this subject again, how WACKO would anyone sounded if, on 9/12/01, they told you 1) Muslims are going to be continuously stream into the country from now on 2) The very next American leader will be named Baraq Hussein Obama It would have sounded like a prediction of war, with us the loser I remember the months and even a year past the 9/11 attack how unified the core of our country was. We appreciated having a strong military, laws that could be enforced, deemed it necessary to profile people based on their country of origin, and most importantly that the roots of our country and what it was founded on were more important than ever. It's amazing that in such a short period of time there are people here who have turned their backs on the police and fire who were put up an a pedestal simply because their "leaders" have successfully insinuated that cops are bad and the military is full of war mongers. On the idea that the towers were an inside job... anyone who thinks that is basically a retard who watches too many movies in their sweat pants. There is no way in hell anyone in the world could have planned that to happen all at the same time without anyone picking up on it. Don't forget the 4th plane that went down without any damage done to exterior targets simply because they forced it down.
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Post by HumanAgent on Sept 12, 2018 18:05:57 GMT -5
Of course it was an inside job... They did pick up on it and they still let it happen... Just think of all the laws they passed after. 17 years later and I can't even travel with a bottle of water... At least I can keep my belt and shoes on... Most of the time...
"they hate us for our freedom" so, we'll just take those freedoms from you.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Sept 12, 2018 19:28:02 GMT -5
I dont claim to know much, but, it was the saudis....bank that......
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Post by CaveBearOG on Sept 12, 2018 19:31:53 GMT -5
amazing how we went from "no way" to yep!!!!
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Post by verbal0knit on Sept 12, 2018 19:46:08 GMT -5
In this first picture, you'll see a grayish plane approaching the building's face.
In this second picture, you'll see the plane has made impact and only the tail is exposed to view. Notice that there is no impact debris falling from the impact zone, one might surmise that the aluminum wings would have snapped off and fallen to the ground on the outside of the building.
In this third picture, you'll see the plane has completely penetrated the building and vanished without leaving any visible impact debris behind.
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Post by verbal0knit on Sept 12, 2018 19:51:50 GMT -5
In this picture you'll, see a grayish colored nose cone, similar in color to the grayish plane, exit the back end of the building prior to detonation. An "exit wound" if I might.Reasons for using an aluminum hammer: "use an aluminum hammer when you dont want to damage the object you are striking.
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Post by verbal0knit on Sept 12, 2018 19:55:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 23:46:16 GMT -5
You realize millions of people watched the planes fly in to the building live on TV, right? If you are implying that a bomb struck both buildings instead of a plane, I think you need to change your medication.
First plane hitting, low speed, looks like a plane, clearly see wing outline hit...
Second plane hitting, slow motion video ...
As far as your aluminum theory, if you have ever spent anytime shooting guns you would know that bullets are made out of lead and copper. The reason is that the most damage is done not by hard metal that holds it's form, rather by soft metal that expands and fragments on impact.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Sept 13, 2018 2:34:28 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it.
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Post by slaytan on Sept 13, 2018 5:07:53 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it. Correct, however that In no way supports any "inside job" theory. A "naturally occurring" crisis can be exploited. I'm on board with the deep state knowing that the attack was coming that day, or at least that an attempt was coming, but not the "no planes, controlled demo" crap
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Post by andrewk1988 on Sept 13, 2018 6:21:30 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it. Correct, however that In no way supports any "inside job" theory. A "naturally occurring" crisis can be exploited. I'm on board with the deep state knowing that the attack was coming that day, or at least that an attempt was coming, but not the "no planes, controlled demo" crap I don't think it was inside job either. I don't know enough to know whether they actually knew it was coming or just used the event after it happened. You're probably right that they knew it was coming and had the patriot act, travel restrictions, etc already barreled up and ready to go.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 8:08:19 GMT -5
I've probably shared this story before, but you can't tell me that they didn't at least know they had a problem on the security side.
We were ripe for the picking with this kind of attack.
Back in 1998, my mom got bored due to the general malaise that comes over well-to-do women with nothing to do. So my dad told her to get a job. She had always wanted to be a flight attendant, so she became a flight attendant and got to fly all over the country. I thought she was kind of crazy for trying to do that but she seemed to be enjoying herself.
One of the things that a flight attendant sometimes gets called on to do is a security check. They already bring street clothes with them and enter through the passengers entrance.
Exactly two weeks before September 11th, my mom was the flight attendant who was given the responsibility of doing a security check.
They gave her a handgun and told her to hide it as best she could. So my mom put the gun in her purse, wrapped her keys around the muzzle and put her checkbook over the grip.
Then she put the purse on the conveyor belt to be x-rayed. She walked through, and picked up her purse on the other side and could have boarded a plane. None of the security guards viewing the video feed of the X-ray saw the gun.
2 weeks later Mohamed Atta and Abdul Aziz Al Omari went through that exact same security point at the Portland International Jetport with their box cutters. They never needed to go through another security checkpoint before they crashed the plane into the World Trade Center.
Other Twist from that day is that my mom was supposed to be working on the flight from Boston that they hijacked. But at the last minute there was a scheduling change and she was put on a route to Cleveland instead. If it weren't for that scheduling change, my mother would have died on September 11th.
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Post by HumanAgent on Sept 13, 2018 8:50:02 GMT -5
Correct, however that In no way supports any "inside job" theory. A "naturally occurring" crisis can be exploited. I'm on board with the deep state knowing that the attack was coming that day, or at least that an attempt was coming, but not the "no planes, controlled demo" crap I don't think it was inside job either. I don't know enough to know whether they actually knew it was coming or just used the event after it happened. You're probably right that they knew it was coming and had the patriot act, travel restrictions, etc already barreled up and ready to go. The Phoenix Memo proves the FBI knew Muslim terrorists were at flight schools.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 9:01:46 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it. I agree they exploited this situation for their own benefits, however I don't believe it did much to convert the country in to more of a police state. The lack of WMD's and George Bush bumbling the war is what allowed a totally unqualified socialist to get elected for 2 terms and get millions of people hooked on government assistance.
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Post by Baph on Sept 13, 2018 11:02:45 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it. Correct, however that In no way supports any "inside job" theory. A "naturally occurring" crisis can be exploited. I'm on board with the deep state knowing that the attack was coming that day, or at least that an attempt was coming, but not the "no planes, controlled demo" crap Gulf of Tonkin 2.0 Never let a good crisis go to waste. - Rahm Emanuell
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Post by Baph on Sept 13, 2018 11:05:41 GMT -5
I don't think it was inside job either. I don't know enough to know whether they actually knew it was coming or just used the event after it happened. You're probably right that they knew it was coming and had the patriot act, travel restrictions, etc already barreled up and ready to go. The Phoenix Memo proves the FBI knew Muslim terrorists were at flight schools. They also knew the Tsarnaiev brothers were Chech dissidents hell-bent on domestic terrorism. They knew a lot of shit. So we have two possible options: A. Massive, bureaucratic incompetence B. Willful neglect in order to incite conditions for increased powers and security
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Post by Baph on Sept 13, 2018 11:09:56 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it. I agree they exploited this situation for their own benefits, however I don't believe it did much to convert the country in to more of a police state. The lack of WMD's and George Bush bumbling the war is what allowed a totally unqualified socialist to get elected for 2 terms and get millions of people hooked on government assistance. Bush was duped right along with the rest of us by factions in the CIA and DOD and Lockheed Martin with raging war boners. Iraq had nothing to do with any of this, and as soon as those planes hit those buildings there were plans to invade Iraq being drawn up. Why? Why in the FUCK are we still there 17 years later? Hell, Afghanistan didn't even have anything to do with it other than being super rural and desolate enough to stage training camps for rich Saudis who were pissed about our bases in their holy land. Nothing about this war makes any sense, never has, never will, and we're going on TWO goddamned decades now. What's the end game? What's the objective? When do we bring troops home? We fucking don't, that's when. The military industrial complex won. Check mate.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Sept 13, 2018 11:33:09 GMT -5
The Rah Rah'ing the police and fire was just another step in converting "conservatives" into cheering on a police state. 'They' used this event to take steps towards their end that would have taken 100 years without it. I agree they exploited this situation for their own benefits, however I don't believe it did much to convert the country in to more of a police state. The lack of WMD's and George Bush bumbling the war is what allowed a totally unqualified socialist to get elected for 2 terms and get millions of people hooked on government assistance. You don't believe it did much to convert the country into more of a police state, huh? You gave away your shtick right there. We both know you couldn't define socialism and explain Obama being a socialist in a face to face conversation (without googling that breitbart article you read it in) if you and your family's life depended on it. You're just spouting right wing propaganda with absolutely no grasp of the subjects you're trying to talk about. The patriot act is the single biggest infringement on US citizen's freedom in the history of the country, led to the passive acceptance of massive government spying on it's own citizens, and gave even more power to the president and the executive branch to act unilaterally against the will of the people. And everybody cheered it on, especially the new "conservatives". Exactly what I'm always talking about when I refer to you and Tony and the other cucks on here Rah Rah'ing along with Trump celebrating the police and military power over this country. We sold our soul as a nation to the military industrial complex because we are a nation of pussies afraid of their own shadow, and now it's celebrated.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 17:33:40 GMT -5
I agree they exploited this situation for their own benefits, however I don't believe it did much to convert the country in to more of a police state. The lack of WMD's and George Bush bumbling the war is what allowed a totally unqualified socialist to get elected for 2 terms and get millions of people hooked on government assistance. You don't believe it did much to convert the country into more of a police state, huh? You gave away your shtick right there. We both know you couldn't define socialism and explain Obama being a socialist in a face to face conversation (without googling that breitbart article you read it in) if you and your family's life depended on it. You're just spouting right wing propaganda with absolutely no grasp of the subjects you're trying to talk about. The patriot act is the single biggest infringement on US citizen's freedom in the history of the country, led to the passive acceptance of massive government spying on it's own citizens, and gave even more power to the president and the executive branch to act unilaterally against the will of the people. And everybody cheered it on, especially the new "conservatives". Exactly what I'm always talking about when I refer to you and Tony and the other cucks on here Rah Rah'ing along with Trump celebrating the police and military power over this country. We sold our soul as a nation to the military industrial complex because we are a nation of pussies afraid of their own shadow, and now it's celebrated. Why do your rebuttals always involve personal attacks on people instead of simply acting like an adult and expressing your side? The patriot act absolutely was over reaching and allowing the government to much ability to intrude in to our lives... I have always argued that the government is too not be trusted and may be the person here who argues the most for being independent of government. The reason that I said what I did is because the people as a population are now dependent on the government in both a financial capacity and long term sustainability in numbers that are greater than we have ever seen. This is absolutely due to Obama’s policies and his verbiage during his terms. The difference between the two above points is in he first one an independently thinking majority can take all of that power back from the government with their voting power, where the second paragraph has bred future generations of dependent drones that will simply vote for more handouts regardless of the policy’s that those people believe in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 17:41:29 GMT -5
I don't think you're going to find anyone on here who was in favor of the Patriot Act. That's a serious reach.
Andrew, when are you going to wake up to the fact that a lot of people voted for Trump specifically because of bullshit from the last 16 years like the Patriot Act?
we had basically 16 years of leaders who wanted to expand the scope and size of our government.
has Trump done that?
You're seriously starting to not even be worth responding to.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Sept 13, 2018 17:55:33 GMT -5
You guys think Trump and his military parades and rhetoric is doing anything at all to rollback executive overreach?
He politicized the "wiretap" situation which would have been a perfect opportunity to unite people by asking "how the fuck does the federal government have the power to legally spy on it's own citizens like this?". Instead it became another divisive topic, ignoring the framework that even made it possible in the first place. Nobody voted for Trump and his limp dick chicken hawk tough guy rhetoric because they thought he was going to do a damn thing about the patriot act, militarization of police, our forever interventionist wars, or our out of control defense budget. And if they did, they did so completely based on their own imagination and not on anything tangible from him.
It's sad that every single topic for you guys has to come back to Obama. Wasn't our president during the attack, and isn't now, and yet you can't wait to bring it up in a thread about 9/11.
And Kyle, it's not a personal attack at all. I'm not saying you're too stupid to understand what socialism is or how Obama is far from a socialist. I'm saying the influences and propaganda that you digest have given you these talking points and you go with them in spite of being willfully ignorant of what the words actually mean.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 18:13:51 GMT -5
How is a military parade an example of executive branch overreach? Isn't he in charge of the entire military? Pretty sure he is...
Can you tell me how many agencies have been shrunk under Trump?
I mean you seem so hell-bent on pointing out these examples of government overreach, so I would assume you would also keep yourself Informed as to the places where our government has been shrunken. But I bet you have not.
How many Freedom of Information requests have been denied by the Trump Administration?
The problem that you have Andrew is that you talk straight out of your ass. You seem to have a vague idea of what was going on and seem to try and run with this liberal bullshit narrative that Trump is doing liberal things like expanding the power of government. Except, he's not. It's really that simple.
And if you can find one person on here who has ever said that they are a big fan of the Patriot Act, I will give you 1 million dollars. And I'm not joking. 1 million dollars. And let's be real here dude, that's the only way you're going to see this kind of money.
You're pretty good with a shovel right? Start digging. You'll find China at the bottom of your hole before you find a single person here saying that the Patriot Act was fucking awesome.
But if you happen to succeed in finding someone here who was a fan of the Patriot Act and talked about how awesome it was, PM your key address and I will personally deposit 153 BTC straight in.
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Post by Comrade Question on Sept 13, 2018 18:38:53 GMT -5
I don't think you're going to find anyone on here who was in favor of the Patriot Act. That's a serious reach. You don't think this forum's #1 proto-fascist bootlick ocmmafan wasn't in favor of expanded government authority? He works for the agency created in direct response to 9/11, doesn't he?
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