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Post by boboplata on Jan 27, 2018 22:05:05 GMT -5
Bermudez got robbed. Fuck.
Jacare headkicked Brunson to Bolivia. Yay.
Das it meine.
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Post by locogato11283 on Jan 27, 2018 23:19:36 GMT -5
I had no idea UFC was on tonight.
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Post by ToNoAvail on Jan 28, 2018 0:13:17 GMT -5
I thought bermudez won with aggression, activity and power but Fili landed a lot of jabs and takedowns. He didn't do, pretty much anything with the TDs, but have to be consistent in judging and guys "known" for their wrestling ALWAYS score big points when securing takedowns. Sonnen vs Bisping comes to mind...
That being said, I remember thinking I wouldn't want to be a judge in that fight. ...
They're dropping the ball on FOX cards though, have to have a bigger main card to make people tune in. This one didn't strike a chord.
Jacare's performance was a thing of beauty though. P4p, he's about as talented as it gets. Him vs Weidman makes sense.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 28, 2018 1:27:13 GMT -5
I only got home in time to catch the main event. Jacare is still a threat to anyone at MW. He could easily lose his next few fights or be the champion come 2019.
Tonoavail, I love the Jacare/Weidman fight.
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Post by kristhegreasedpig on Jan 28, 2018 5:06:28 GMT -5
Sure am glad weight classes make fair fights like 5’6” Bermudez fighting a 5’11” Fili with a 8” reach advantage. Yep, even stats with weight classes....
😉 I troll.
But I don’t think Bermudez was robbed, other than leg kicks I found him to have a more Guida like fight, as did the ladies outside of Randa Markos. I thought Fili did enough in the first two especially with his jabs, to be given striking control. But wasn’t watching that intently either.
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Post by peAk on Jan 28, 2018 22:13:11 GMT -5
I'd like to see Jacare win the title
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Post by boboplata on Jan 29, 2018 1:42:28 GMT -5
I'd like to see Jacare win the title Defend 2x(which is more than doable) and ride off into the sunset.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Jan 29, 2018 11:02:12 GMT -5
Jacare isnt going to win a title. That ship sailed a long time ago. ...But im pretty sure we all said that about Bisping too.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 29, 2018 12:18:36 GMT -5
Jacare may be my fav fighter in the UFC, but are you all forgetting his last fight against Whitaker? He got worked.
Jacare has fought the top 3 guys in the division and has lost to them all.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 29, 2018 14:22:01 GMT -5
Jacare may be my fav fighter in the UFC, but are you all forgetting his last fight against Whitaker? He got worked. Jacare has fought the top 3 guys in the division and has lost to them all. Eh, a lot of people thought he beat Yoel and wasn't that the fight Yoel tested positive? The Rockhold fight was a long time ago, but I remember it being competitive. Plus Rockhold is a basket case and could potentially lose to anyone. Whitaker knocked his block off, but it's not like he has chin issues and Whitaker can KO anyone.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 29, 2018 14:48:57 GMT -5
Yoel tested positive clean prior to and day of the Jacare fight, but failed an out-of-competition a few days later due to a tainted supplement (which is why he only got 6 months). I think Yoel is likely juiced to the gills, but he didn't fail a test for his Jacare fight, which is why that fight wasn't ruled a no contest.
I don't remember the Jacare/Rockhold fight all that well, but I think Jacare won the first round or two and then Rockhold, who is a huge MW, wore him down and took over the last three rounds. Rockhold is a much better fighter now than he was then, in my opinion.
And Whitaker worked him.
Again, I am a huge Jacare fan, but he doesn't have much in the way of signature wins and is 0-3 against the top three guys in the division.
Signature wins:
KO'd a 39-year old Vitor who was off the roids 1-1 against Mousasi TKO over Okami KO'd Derek Brunson twice. Submitted Tim Boetsch.
Mousasi and Brunson are the only arguably top 10 guys on that list and neither is a top 5 guy.
I think he loses to Whitaker, Rockhold, and Yoel again, and I think he loses to Weidman. Besides those four guys I'd favor him against anyone in the division. But I'd like to him fight Weidman and hopefully prove me wrong.
Really wish he would have gotten his shot against Bisping. I think he would have toyed with the Count and won UFC gold.
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Post by peAk on Jan 29, 2018 21:58:35 GMT -5
If you look at the top guys it's Weidman, Whittaker, Rockhold, and Jacare.
IMO, any one of these guys can beat each other on any given night.
So Jacare's chance at winning the title is just as good as any of these guys.
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 29, 2018 22:15:50 GMT -5
If you look at the top guys it's Weidman, Whittaker, Rockhold, and Jacare. IMO, any one of these guys can beat each other on any given night. So Jacare's chance at winning the title is just as good as any of these guys. Yeah, I can agree with this. I think my boy Weidman actually matches up the best against Whittaker. I think he can grind him out or finish him on the ground. We know Rockhold is a bad matchup for him and Souza isn’t a great matchup for him either.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 30, 2018 1:49:15 GMT -5
I don't think Jacare can beat Whitaker, but I'd take him if he were a big enough dog against Rockhold or Yoel.
The MW division is wide open. Whitaker is the cream of the crop, but other than that....
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Post by peAk on Jan 30, 2018 8:28:14 GMT -5
I really wish Mousasi was still in the mix too.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 30, 2018 10:06:21 GMT -5
If you look at the top guys it's Weidman, Whittaker, Rockhold, and Jacare. IMO, any one of these guys can beat each other on any given night. So Jacare's chance at winning the title is just as good as any of these guys. You're forgetting Yoel, who has to be ahead of Weidman (who is 1-3 in his last four). Barring an opportunity as a late replacement, Jacare will likely have to beat Weidman, Romero, or Rockhold in order to get a title shot. He'd probably be a dog against any of those guys. Then he'd have to likely beat Whittaker. Where he'd be a heavy dog. I don't think he has much of a chance of winning those two fights. But again, I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by peAk on Jan 30, 2018 12:04:16 GMT -5
If you look at the top guys it's Weidman, Whittaker, Rockhold, and Jacare. IMO, any one of these guys can beat each other on any given night. So Jacare's chance at winning the title is just as good as any of these guys. You're forgetting Yoel, who has to be ahead of Weidman (who is 1-3 in his last four). Barring an opportunity as a late replacement, Jacare will likely have to beat Weidman, Romero, or Rockhold in order to get a title shot. He'd probably be a dog against any of those guys. Then he'd have to likely beat Whittaker. Where he'd be a heavy dog. I don't think he has much of a chance of winning those two fights. But again, I hope I'm wrong. ah yes, I was thinking of Yoel but forgot to write his name. I just feel like all these guys have been beat and without a fluke. I would say Bisping's win over Rockhold was probably the only one that was kind of fluke-ish. I know Whittaker has been on a tear and I am a huge fan but I still think any of these guys could still beat him, just like he could beat them. I just dont see any of them dominate over the others. So while I don't necessarily think Jacare will or won't win the title, I just feel his chances are roughly the same as the others.
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Post by peAk on Jan 31, 2018 10:36:32 GMT -5
Looks like we may get Weidman vs Jacare
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Post by jamesod on Jan 31, 2018 15:15:41 GMT -5
Looks like we may get Weidman vs Jacare That would make sense. Yoel v. Rockhold for the next shot at Whittaker. Then the winner of Weidman/Jacare gets the shot after that. That's as good as one could hope for out of this division. Always a little surprising when the UFC actually makes the fights that makes the most sense. Kudos to them if this is true.
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Post by HumanAgent on Jan 31, 2018 15:37:04 GMT -5
Looks like we may get Weidman vs Jacare That would make sense. Yoel v. Rockhold for the next shot at Whittaker. Then the winner of Weidman/Jacare gets the shot after that. That's as good as one could hope for out of this division. Always a little surprising when the UFC actually makes the fights that makes the most sense. Kudos to them if this is true. Then watch them give the next shot to Bisping.
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Post by jamesod on Jan 31, 2018 15:39:03 GMT -5
That would make sense. Yoel v. Rockhold for the next shot at Whittaker. Then the winner of Weidman/Jacare gets the shot after that. That's as good as one could hope for out of this division. Always a little surprising when the UFC actually makes the fights that makes the most sense. Kudos to them if this is true. Then watch them give the next shot to Bisping. ... setting up the rematch we've all been waiting for, Bisping v. Hendo 3!!!
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Post by peAk on Jan 31, 2018 20:18:13 GMT -5
Looks like we may get Weidman vs Jacare That would make sense. Yoel v. Rockhold for the next shot at Whittaker. Then the winner of Weidman/Jacare gets the shot after that. That's as good as one could hope for out of this division. Always a little surprising when the UFC actually makes the fights that makes the most sense. Kudos to them if this is true. And see, the smart/safe pick is probably Weidman but lets not forget that he was getting whipped by Mousasi not too long ago. So I don't know.
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