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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2017 16:19:46 GMT -5
The two promtions are going head-to-head on 1/20:
UFC 220 (PPV) *Stipe Miocic vs. Francis Ngannou (Heavyweight) *Daniel Cormier vs. Volkan Oezdemir (Light Heavyweight)
Bellator 192 (SPIKE) *Douglas Lima vs. Rory MacDonald (Welterweight) Rampage Jackson vs. Chael Sonnen (Heavyweight)
*Champ
What will you be watching live?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 16:50:40 GMT -5
I'm going live to Bellator. Got great seats!!!
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2017 17:31:25 GMT -5
I'm glad you put that asterisk next to Douglas Lima... There are Bellator titles!
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2017 17:56:31 GMT -5
I'm glad you put that asterisk next to Douglas Lima... There are Bellator titles! I had to look him up to find out who this guy was, and to my surprise he's the champ! He even won a decision against Paul Daley. Crazy stat for Chael: He's only lost to black guys in the past 10 years. BET THE HOUSE ON RAMPAGE!
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Post by johncfc on Dec 28, 2017 10:36:53 GMT -5
I'm glad you put that asterisk next to Douglas Lima... There are Bellator titles! I had to look him up to find out who this guy was, and to my surprise he's the champ! He even won a decision against Paul Daley. Crazy stat for Chael: He's only lost to black guys in the past 10 years. BET THE HOUSE ON RAMPAGE! Tito is black?
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 28, 2017 10:55:32 GMT -5
I had to look him up to find out who this guy was, and to my surprise he's the champ! He even won a decision against Paul Daley. Crazy stat for Chael: He's only lost to black guys in the past 10 years. BET THE HOUSE ON RAMPAGE! Tito is black? Oh course he is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 13:14:39 GMT -5
#fakestats
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 28, 2017 15:30:17 GMT -5
More people will watch the free card for sure.
Aside from the two title fights, the card is weak as fuck.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 28, 2017 15:47:31 GMT -5
More people will watch the free card for sure. Aside from the two title fights, the card is weak as fuck. Yeah but that Bellator card is STACKED!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 16:45:40 GMT -5
Everyone will tune it to UFC to see Ngannou/Stipe.
What's pretty sweet about the Bellator card is that we are 24 days out and there is still only 3 fights on the line up. Super professional. Definitely an A league organization.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 28, 2017 17:52:35 GMT -5
Everyone will tune it to UFC to see Ngannou/Stipe. What's pretty sweet about the Bellator card is that we are 24 days out and there is still only 3 fights on the line up. Super professional. Definitely an A league organization. Wow - did you get tickets for free?
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 28, 2017 18:58:55 GMT -5
Stipe/Francis is the only fight on the card anyone wants to see, and even those people are mostly hardcore guys.
No one cares about DC vs. whoever that guy is. DC isn't that likeable, so maybe people will tune in to see him get beat?
The rest of the card is full of people no one has ever heard of.
Bellator's card features Rory, Rampage and Chael, who are far more known than the four people on the UFC card.
This UFC card PPV numbers will be low.
Vale talking about being unprofessional.. LOL. Like the UFC is a model fight league when it comes to professionalism? Nonsense.
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Post by hammerfaust on Dec 29, 2017 10:24:10 GMT -5
Why is it an either/or? I will watch both, I have this thing called a DVR....
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 29, 2017 10:30:03 GMT -5
Why is it an either/or? I will watch both, I have this thing called a DVR.... Reading comprehension isnt one of your strong points, is it? The poll asks which will you be watching "LIVE" I'll be recording Bellator.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2017 12:00:52 GMT -5
I’ll watch both at the same time.
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Post by hammerfaust on Dec 29, 2017 12:07:27 GMT -5
Why is it an either/or? I will watch both, I have this thing called a DVR.... Reading comprehension isnt one of your strong points, is it? The poll asks which will you be watching "LIVE" I'll be recording Bellator. HAHA! Whoops... I sure did miss the 'LIVE".... My brain is in weekend mode already. So, now that I am up to speed on the question, I will be watching UFC live and DVR'ing Bellator.
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Post by Johnny on Dec 29, 2017 17:29:48 GMT -5
Looking at an all-night sausage fest with the boys on the 20th! Wooooooo!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 21:26:09 GMT -5
More people will watch the free card for sure. Aside from the two title fights, the card is weak as fuck. The rest of the two cards are comparable, but if you think those 2 UFC fights aren't superior to those 2 bellator fights you are crazy, or actually, just lying. And I do care about Cormier vs Oezdemir. Oezdemir is a badass and could make for a very good fight with DC.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2017 22:37:04 GMT -5
More people will watch the free card for sure. Aside from the two title fights, the card is weak as fuck. The rest of the two cards are comparable, but if you think those 2 UFC fights aren't superior to those 2 bellator fights you are crazy, or actually, just lying. And I do care about Cormier vs Oezdemir. Oezdemir is a badass and could make for a very good fight with DC. Haha, yea OK. DC will win this fight on the ground easily. The only fight that’s interesting on the card is the HW fight. That’s it. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 4:23:22 GMT -5
Isn't Emil Meek vs Usuman on the UFC card? That fight is going to be TITS MCGEE.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 4:24:51 GMT -5
More people will watch the free card for sure. Aside from the two title fights, the card is weak as fuck. The rest of the two cards are comparable, but if you think those 2 UFC fights aren't superior to those 2 bellator fights you are crazy, or actually, just lying. And I do care about Cormier vs Oezdemir. Oezdemir is a badass and could make for a very good fight with DC. Who is Oezdemir? Who has he fought recently?
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 30, 2017 14:10:11 GMT -5
The rest of the two cards are comparable, but if you think those 2 UFC fights aren't superior to those 2 bellator fights you are crazy, or actually, just lying. And I do care about Cormier vs Oezdemir. Oezdemir is a badass and could make for a very good fight with DC. Who is Oezdemir? Who has he fought recently? Funny you ask.. he actually fought a bunch of dudes outside a bar a few months ago and has a felony assault charge pending. No nans.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 30, 2017 14:21:03 GMT -5
How about that professionalism again? LULZ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 15:57:04 GMT -5
The rest of the two cards are comparable, but if you think those 2 UFC fights aren't superior to those 2 bellator fights you are crazy, or actually, just lying. And I do care about Cormier vs Oezdemir. Oezdemir is a badass and could make for a very good fight with DC. Who is Oezdemir? Who has he fought recently? He knocked out Manuwa in the first round I think.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 15:57:35 GMT -5
The rest of the two cards are comparable, but if you think those 2 UFC fights aren't superior to those 2 bellator fights you are crazy, or actually, just lying. And I do care about Cormier vs Oezdemir. Oezdemir is a badass and could make for a very good fight with DC. Haha, yea OK. DC will win this fight on the ground easily. The only fight that’s interesting on the card is the HW fight. That’s it. Period. I'm more interested in that one fight than the Rory and Chael/Rampage fights combined.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 30, 2017 16:27:19 GMT -5
Fake champ beats guy no one has ever heard of.
SUPER interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:20:37 GMT -5
Fake champ beats guy no one has ever heard of. SUPER interesting. Lots of people have heard of Oezdemir except you. And Cormier's the real champ at this point and is better than most HWs as well. How exciting is Chael vs Rampage? Two washed up fighters who couldn't hang in the UFC is basically what that is. Honestly, the trash talk between them would probably be more exciting than the fight will be.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 30, 2017 19:37:25 GMT -5
Couldn’t hang in the UFC? LOL, come on. The UFC LHW class is pathetic.
Those guys left for a better payday and the freedom. Haha, fucking Reebok.
No one has heard of DC’d opponent. It’s a lame fight. DC is not the real champ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 22:05:26 GMT -5
Couldn’t hang in the UFC? LOL, come on. The UFC LHW class is pathetic. Those guys left for a better payday and the freedom. Haha, fucking Reebok. No one has heard of DC’d opponent. It’s a lame fight. DC is not the real champ. Dude, as we've discussed before, but which you don't see to realize, is that the UFC LHW class is STILL better than Bellator's. Take Glover for example: he's number 3 and he's beaten Rampage and Bader. Yes, he lost to Davis, I'll give you that. There's no one in Bellator's LHW class right now who can beat DC, Gustaffson and probably not Oezdemir either who knocked out Manuwa in the first round. Shit, I'd take OSP over most of Bellator's LHWs. Who's Bellator's LHW champ anyway? Anyone know what their LHW rankings are? Are they even on Bellator's page? The UFCs LHW class looks great compared to Bellator's and you know Page and Chael would lose to lots of LHWS in the UFC.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 22:28:27 GMT -5
Look Loco I'll make this simple for you by comparing some fighters records from the UFC LHW class and the Bellator LHW class and let you look at them and compare.
Bellator doesn't seem to have rankings on their page, so I'll compare the records of recent opponents of Bellator's best LHWs by looking them up with the UFC's best LHWs quickly:
Best Bellator LHW I could find:
Ryan Bader
4-0 in his last 4 Bellator fights but had to LEAVE the UFC because Rumble knocked him out, and he also lost to Glover
Best UFC LHW
Cormier---Ok, you know DC is better than Bader, moving on now...
2nd best Bellator LHW I could find:
Phil Davis
5-1 in his last 6 Bellator fights, did fairly well in the UFC and beat Glover, but wasn't good enough to earn a title shot, lost to Bader who couldn't hang in the UFC, lost to Rashad, lost to Rumble,
2nd best UFC LHW:
Alexander Gustaffson ----Would DEFINATELY beat Phil Davis (assuming Davis is Bellator's #2) and you KNOW he would
3rd best Bellator LHW:
POSSIBLY Nikita Krylov...3-0 in Bellator but couldn't hang in the UFC (not sure, but he beat Newton who beat Mo who lost to Davis who lost to Bader so probably)
Nikita Krylov is ANOTHER guy who couldn't hang in the UFC and lost to Misha Cirkunov WHO GLOVER JUST CHOKED OUT
3rd best UFC LHW:
Volkan Oezdemir 15-1
YOU might not know who he is, but he ALREADY beat Cirkunov who beat Krylov so easy answer there, and he also knocked out Manuwa in 42 seconds and beat OSP...so yeah, he's better than Krylov
4th best Bellator LHW
MAYBE Emmaneul Newton? Freakin ONE AND SEVEN in his last 8 fights and lost to Nikita Krylov who lost to Cirkunov who lost to Glover
4th best UFC LHW
Glover---Probably good enough to beat Newton IMO but it might be a close fight
5th best Bellator LHW
Maybe King Mo---2-2 in his last 4 fights and lost to Phil Davis who couldn't hang in the UFC
5th best UFC LHW
Jimi Manuwa who would DEFINITELY beat King Mo and he got knocked out by Oezdemir in his last fight
There you have it.
The 5 best UFC LHWs would almost certainly beat the 5 best Bellator LHWs
Dude, I mean Bellator's LHW class is just one big list of UFC throwaways from Page to Chael to Davis to Bader to Sokodjou to Krylov to Tito.
I mean sure, Bellator also has guys like Liam Mcgeery and Linton Vassel, but they'd probably lose to guys like Shogun and OSP.
You CAN'T look at this list and claim Bellator has a superior LHW class.
Man, that probably wasn't worth the time, but at least if you have any sense you can't look at it and not realize the obvious superiority of the UFCs LHW class.
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