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Post by peAk on Dec 17, 2017 9:49:48 GMT -5
Eh, he was getting stung a bit but he didn't look in serious danger and has always been slow. He's still only lost to the best guys in Gust, Rumble and Jones for the most part and I see him continuing to beat most other LHWs, though I don't see him beating Cormier. He was getting throttled until it went to the ground. A win is a win but he looked slow and old on the feet. I agree with Adam. He looked terrible until it hit the ground. Misha just totally gave up when it hit the ground, I have no idea what was going on there. I used to think Misha was a contender but I changed my mind. Tex gets embarrassed by Cormier.
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Post by TheStorm on Dec 17, 2017 10:20:58 GMT -5
People seem to forget that before Robbie had his “resurgence” he was a gatekeeper, a B-Level fighter. Nothing has changed, he’s just not in the right place, right time anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 12:23:51 GMT -5
RDA wasn't able to finish a guy with only one leg?
Glover gets used as a punching bag, gets a miracle take down and now he wants a title shot?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:10:40 GMT -5
RDA wasn't able to finish a guy with only one leg? Glover gets used as a punching bag, gets a miracle take down and now he wants a title shot? Yeah but he completely obliterated him. I think the fight could have been stopped once or twice without much of a complaint. At least from me. The 27 second flurry was one of those times. I cannot believe RDA was able to throw that kind of heat and still be fresh in round 5. He may not have the crazy power but RDA is a stud. I didn't realize he actually passed out trying to make 155 before. Or at least that was a rumor I heard. www.google.com/amp/s/www.mmafighting.com/platform/amp/2017/4/24/15411458/rafael-dos-anjos-confirms-he-passed-out-prior-ufc-fight-eddie-alvarez
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 19:23:42 GMT -5
Eh, he was getting stung a bit but he didn't look in serious danger and has always been slow. He's still only lost to the best guys in Gust, Rumble and Jones for the most part and I see him continuing to beat most other LHWs, though I don't see him beating Cormier. He was getting throttled until it went to the ground. A win is a win but he looked slow and old on the feet. He looked slow and was getting tagged, but I wouldn't use the word "throttled". And he won very quickly. Glover almost always gets tagged before winning even as far back as his fight with Maldonado, but I'll still take him over most guys at LHW other than the guys who have already beaten him plus Cormier.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 19:26:53 GMT -5
RDA wasn't able to finish a guy with only one leg? Glover gets used as a punching bag, gets a miracle take down and now he wants a title shot? He's still ranked around #4 if I'm correct. And I mean he was only used for a punching bag for about 1 minute or a minute and a half seeing as he finished the fight at around 2 minutes and change. Other than Gust, unless Rumble comes back, there's really no one else in line for a shot at this point if Cormier beats Oezdemir, and Cormier and Glover have never fought, so with the division being as thin as it is I'm really not sure who else there is to give it to...other than Gust, who yes, should IMO definitely be getting the next shot with how easily he beat Glover. Also, it's pretty insulting calling his takedown "a miracle" as if it happened by luck lol. What other than Glover's takedown offense being strong enough and Misha's TDD being weak enough allowed that takedown to just "miraculously" just "happen"? LOL Props to Misha for being able to rock him, but Glover always gets rocked, then pushed through and won fair and square.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 20:32:12 GMT -5
All I'm saying is the guy got his ass beat by Gustafson, then gets used as a punching bag for minute-and-a-half, barely gets a take down and now he wants title shot? Regardless if he's already fought Cormier or not, just seems a little premature, no?
Insulting to who?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 0:35:55 GMT -5
All I'm saying is the guy got his ass beat by Gustafson, then gets used as a punching bag for minute-and-a-half, barely gets a take down and now he wants title shot? Regardless if he's already fought Cormier or not, just seems a little premature, no? Insulting to who? I meant it would be insulting to Glover (well I mean I don't really know if it would be to be honest lol) to call it a "miracle" he got a takedown. Just basically a way of saying he earned the takedown by working for it and didn't just "get lucky". I mean you still said he "barely" got the takedown but he got it quite easily once he got ahold of Misha and there was no "barely" about it since he very frequently gets rocked before winning. You are right though that Gustaffson is really the one who deserves the next shot. After that though? If Jones and Rumble both don't come back then Glover is pretty much behind Cormier, Gust and Oezdemir. I guess what happens really depends on the Oezedemir fight thought and the guy is supposedly very good although I actually don't remember seeing his past fights which surprises me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 10:40:39 GMT -5
So a guy who got knocked out 2x in his past 4 fights is asking for a title shot? After getting lit up for 3/4 of his last fight?
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Post by peAk on Dec 18, 2017 12:22:10 GMT -5
So a guy who got knocked out 2x in his past 4 fights is asking for a title shot? After getting lit up for 3/4 of his last fight? I am with you man. Makes no sense at all and makes even less sense from a business perspective. IMO, he needs at least 2 more quality wins before he should think about a title shot. If DC agrees to give him one, then he's just looking for an easy payday.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 18, 2017 13:20:14 GMT -5
So a guy who got knocked out 2x in his past 4 fights is asking for a title shot? After getting lit up for 3/4 of his last fight? I am with you man. Makes no sense at all and makes even less sense from a business perspective. IMO, he needs at least 2 more quality wins before he should think about a title shot. If DC agrees to give him one, then he's just looking for an easy payday. No way does Glover deserve a title shot. THAT BEING SAID... the LHW division is the weakest I can ever remember. Champion : Daniel Cormier 1 Alexander Gustafsson 2 Volkan Oezdemir 3 Glover Teixeira 4 Jimi Manuwa 5 Ovince Saint Preux 6 Mauricio Rua 7 Misha Cirkunov 8 Corey Anderson 9 Ilir Latifi 10 Patrick Cummins That list is SAD AF.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 18, 2017 14:13:35 GMT -5
LOL at the UFC LHW class.
Bellator has more top names than that.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 18, 2017 14:19:09 GMT -5
LOL at the UFC LHW class. Bellator has more top names than that. Yeah it's shame the UFC couldnt hold on to Tito Ortiz, Chael Sonnen, and Rampage Jackson. Just imagine what those guys could be doing right now in the UFC...
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 18, 2017 15:47:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 15:49:01 GMT -5
So a guy who got knocked out 2x in his past 4 fights is asking for a title shot? After getting lit up for 3/4 of his last fight? Hey you can't blame him for trying and with such a thin division, unless Gust steps up (cause he's the only one ahead of Glover who's active now), then the next shot probably does go to him. I already agreed that Gust deserves it much more than Glover, but what it is is really, and I think this is the proper word for it, is that you are " dismissive". It's honestly a better word than "critical", though you are that too, and this is kind of how you talk of fighters in general, not even just ones I like. You tend to be quick not just to point out what a fighter did wrong, but not even acknowledge what he did right, hence your calling Glover's takedown a "miracle" and that he "barely" got it, when neither are true. The guy was getting lit up for about a minute but was never out of the fight, then pushed through, perfectly executed a takedown that was never even CLOSE to being stuffed, that's not "barely" getting it. I see "barely" getting a takedown as when the defender is stuffing it hard and scrambling and shutting it down and squirming back to his feet and then after multiple times the attacker FINALLY gets it. That's "barely" getting a takedown. I guess I am defensive of Glover cause I trained with him for years and he's a really nice guy, and I'll admit he was getting lit up pretty badly but he was in it the whole time. Then he pushed through, and within seconds of grabbing Misha he tripped him and Misha went down like a ton of bricks and got dominated. Give credit where credit is due. There's no miracle or luck involved.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 15:50:28 GMT -5
LOL at the UFC LHW class. Bellator has more top names than that. Dude, Bellator's LHW divison wouldn't even rank higher than #15 in the UFC. What LHWs does Bellator have that can beat Cormier, Oezdemir, Glover, Cirkunov or Gustaffson?? Bader? King Mo? LOL No one.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 18, 2017 16:08:57 GMT -5
So a guy who got knocked out 2x in his past 4 fights is asking for a title shot? After getting lit up for 3/4 of his last fight? Hey you can't blame him for trying and with such a thin division, unless Gust steps up ( cause he's the only one ahead of Glover who's active now), then the next shot probably does go to him. Alexander Gustafsson is injured.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 19:56:30 GMT -5
Hey you can't blame him for trying and with such a thin division, unless Gust steps up ( cause he's the only one ahead of Glover who's active now), then the next shot probably does go to him. Alexander Gustafsson is injured. Thanks for the info. So see there you go: I tried to check the current LHW rankings but I guess they have a temporary glitch in their system, but I am pretty sure it looks like this right now: Champ: Cormier # 1 Contender: Oezdemir #2 Gustaffson: INJURED #3 Glover: Just won in under 3 minutes even if he looked bad first #4: Misha: Just finished by Glover in under 3 minutes Jones: Being a dickhead and doing coke and shit lol Rumble: Thinking about coming back but hasn't yet Everyone else Glover is the only one who even makes sense for the next shot now. And who ever said the #4 guy in Cirkunov even SHOULD be easy for the #3 guy in Glover to beat, especially to do it in 3 minutes?? That SHOULD be a competitive fight. He looked slow on the feet and was getting hurt, but he then destroyed Misha on the ground so lets give credit where credit is due.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 18, 2017 20:14:20 GMT -5
If you think UFC's LHW division is deeper than Bellator's right now, you're just in denial.
UFC LHW class is fucking horrible, with a champ that never beat the real champ.
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Post by peAk on Dec 18, 2017 20:58:03 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that Rory MacDonald is Bellator's strongest LHW
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Post by adamg01 on Dec 18, 2017 21:06:45 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that Rory MacDonald is Bellator's strongest LHW Wow, that’s kind of depressing for Bellator.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 18, 2017 21:15:17 GMT -5
Not one person can present a valid argument against my claim.
Thanks for playing though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 23:59:26 GMT -5
If you think UFC's LHW division is deeper than Bellator's right now, you're just in denial. UFC LHW class is fucking horrible, with a champ that never beat the real champ. Dude, be real. What Bellator LHWs can beat Cormier, Gustaffson, Oezdemir and Glover?? (Not to mention Jones and Rumble who aren't fighting now). Tito? Rampage? Bader? King Mo? NONE of them can. They are all former UFC fighters in the first place (minus King Mo). If you don't realize that Bellator has inferior LHWs to the UFC I just don't know what to say. I think Cormier ALONE beats Bellator's 3 top LHWS IN ONE NIGHT. Get back to me and tell me who Bellator's top 3 ranked LHWs are and we'll put this to a forum vote on who wins if they fight the UFCs top 3 LHWs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 0:16:59 GMT -5
Toehold. Please stop dick riding these fighters. Thanks. -Majority of the forum
Phil Davis beat Glover and is in Bellator, to answer your question.
Still don't want to see a Glover vs Cormier match up. Would rather see DC vacate and move up in weight. It won't sell so I can see the ufc not even making the fight in the first place.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 19, 2017 0:57:59 GMT -5
Everyone thinks they deserve a title shot. He's another good fight from earning it. Let's not wait around or dick around... Shogun is the next best opponent... Shogun is on a three fight winning streak since losing to OSP. Glover isn't the guy to sit around and wait. Filthy Animal vs Filthy Animal! Loser goes to Bellator so we can hear Loco talk about how great Glover is then.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 19, 2017 12:00:49 GMT -5
We need Kimbo Slice more than ever right now.
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Post by peAk on Dec 19, 2017 20:55:35 GMT -5
We need Kimbo Slice more than ever right now. When he died, a part of Loco did too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 22:23:22 GMT -5
We need Kimbo Slice more than ever right now. When he died, a part of Loco did too. That crazy chicken Never Was the Same
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 22:42:23 GMT -5
Toehold. Please stop dick riding these fighters. Thanks. -Majority of the forum Phil Davis beat Glover and is in Bellator, to answer your question. Still don't want to see a Glover vs Cormier match up. Would rather see DC vacate and move up in weight. It won't sell so I can see the ufc not even making the fight in the first place. Ok yeah you are right about Davis beating Glover, but you know as well as I do that Bellator's LHW division is not nearly as good as the UFC's so don't let your desire to win a debate with me cloud your judgment. One exception doesn't make the rule. And I'd also rather see Cormier move up in weight.
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Post by ocmmafan on Dec 20, 2017 0:42:45 GMT -5
I was NOT impressed with Glover and think he has shown a serious deterioration on skill over the last few years. He beat a bum and the division is full of gatekeepers. Other than somehow landing a one shot power bomb I don't know how Glover is going to win even one minute of any round against Cormier. At best, Glover would sit in Cormier's guard for 5 rounds and get beat easily 50-45. At worst, he gets pounded out in one round.
I would put Glover next against Jimi Manuwa and at least it would be entertaining. But title shot? No.
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