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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:20:22 GMT -5
The government shutdown is entirely based on the left saying they want taxpayers money to help illegal immigrants. I would love to hear how it’s trumps fault since he has been determined to stop DACA for 2 1/2 Years now... and the Democratic Party has had that same amount of time to prepare for it
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 22, 2018 14:55:04 GMT -5
If Trump were a real leader, he'd be able to get a sit down. There will probably be laughs and tears and yelling, but these are just some of the emotions necessary to make a deal. It's on the leader to get a deal done. Blaming others is weak and not the type of leadership we need.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 22, 2018 14:57:27 GMT -5
If Trump were a real leader, he'd be able to get a sit down. There will probably be laughs and tears and yelling, but these are just some of the emotions necessary to make a deal. It's on the leader to get a deal done. Blaming others is weak and not the type of leadership we need. Yay Trump! They have come to an agreement!
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 22, 2018 14:57:37 GMT -5
I'm paraphrasing Trumps sentiment during the shutdown during the Obama administration. Just so you lemmings don't start crying over someone criticizing your lord and savior.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 22, 2018 15:04:22 GMT -5
I'm paraphrasing Trumps sentiment during the shutdown during the Obama administration. Just so you lemmings don't start crying over someone criticizing your lord and savior. Sorry, Yay to whomever each person aimed their outrage at 72 hours ago. Who gives a shit, they always try to ramp up 'government shutdowns.' In reality, the main tangible effect was a partisan # battle Trumpshutdown vs SchumerShutdown. There was probably some metric across social media that indicated who was losing, and that group moved their position .001% and now the citizenry can quietly try to recover from this important event.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:06:42 GMT -5
If Trump were a real leader, he'd be able to get a sit down. There will probably be laughs and tears and yelling, but these are just some of the emotions necessary to make a deal. It's on the leader to get a deal done. Blaming others is weak and not the type of leadership we need. You do not disappoint. I knew you couldn't do it without sounding retarded.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 22, 2018 15:11:16 GMT -5
I'm paraphrasing Trumps sentiment during the shutdown during the Obama administration. Just so you lemmings don't start crying over someone criticizing your lord and savior. Sorry, Yay to whomever each person aimed their outrage at 72 hours ago. Who gives a shit, they always try to ramp up 'government shutdowns.' In reality, the main tangible effect was a partisan # battle Trumpshutdown vs SchumerShutdown. There was probably some metric across social media that indicated who was losing, and that group moved their position .001% and now the citizenry can quietly try to recover from this important event. I am actually celebrating in the streets after the hardest weekend of government shutdown we've ever experienced. The lights came back on, breath re-entered the lungs of the USA, and we rose like a phoenix.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:11:22 GMT -5
And just for the sake of clarity here. The last time we had a government shutdown we had Obama as our leader. And the shutdown lasted for 2 weeks.
Now, we have a real leader who does get shit done, who does get the sit-downs, and who does get results much faster then his predecessor was capable of.
Which is why this shutdown is already over after about 2 days instead of 2 weeks.
It makes your comment about lemmings, Andrew, far more entertaining.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 22, 2018 15:12:23 GMT -5
If Trump were a real leader, he'd be able to get a sit down. There will probably be laughs and tears and yelling, but these are just some of the emotions necessary to make a deal. It's on the leader to get a deal done. Blaming others is weak and not the type of leadership we need. You do not disappoint. I knew you couldn't do it without sounding retarded. You're the tard for not being able to decipher the satire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:18:54 GMT -5
You do not disappoint. I knew you couldn't do it without sounding retarded. You're the tard for not being able to decipher the satire. Satire requires a view that stretches Beyond the scope of left-leaning mainstream media. And it's very leftist of you to try to imply your lemming comment was high minded.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 22, 2018 15:26:19 GMT -5
You're the tard for not being able to decipher the satire. Satire requires a view that stretches Beyond the scope of left-leaning mainstream media. And it's very leftist of you to try to imply your lemming comment was high minded. Are you butt hurt because you didn't pick up on it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:52:05 GMT -5
Satire requires a view that stretches Beyond the scope of left-leaning mainstream media. And it's very leftist of you to try to imply your lemming comment was high minded. Are you butt hurt because you didn't pick up on it? It would take a lot more than you trying to pass your stupidity off as intelligence to cause even the slightest of itches on my butt. Use google and tell me how often gov't shutdowns occur and their average length. Then read your "satire" again, you silly child. If you can laugh at how dumb you looked, you made progress.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 16:20:00 GMT -5
Government open again. Whew! Thought supplies were gonna run out!
So, democrats didn't get what they wanted. Republicans did. Seems like Trump hardlined negotiated for the win on this one?
Am I missing something here?
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Post by Angelo on Jan 22, 2018 16:32:10 GMT -5
I do blame the Republicans, not Trump in this case. Even though I think the government should stay shut down and save us money, it shut down ONLY because of the Republicans. You can try and say "well the Liberals are holding it up over illegal immigrant protections / DACA"
HOWEVER
The Republicans could have used the nuclear option and get their budget across, but decided not to. They pussed out on doing what needs to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 17:34:07 GMT -5
I do blame the Republicans, not Trump in this case. Even though I think the government should stay shut down and save us money, it shut down ONLY because of the Republicans. You can try and say "well the Liberals are holding it up over illegal immigrant protections / DACA" HOWEVER The Republicans could have used the nuclear option and get their budget across, but decided not to. They pussed out on doing what needs to be done. Yeah, it was really short-sighted of them to not change the entire process in the Senate just to get what they wanted. If they use the nuclear option that would be the story and it would look terrible for them. The way that they did it was smarter because now they have given the illusion that they are capable of actually working with the Democrats without having to circumvent them or pull an end around or change procedure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 17:41:34 GMT -5
Damnit... I was hoping this would last a few months so we could see illegals laying down across train tracks to protest how unfair it is of us to not reward them for breaking our laws.
Can we demand they turn the lights back off and we go in to survival mode for a year or so and see who is still alive at the end? That would be a great way to get rid of the cockroaches.
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Post by Angelo on Jan 22, 2018 17:51:48 GMT -5
I do blame the Republicans, not Trump in this case. Even though I think the government should stay shut down and save us money, it shut down ONLY because of the Republicans. You can try and say "well the Liberals are holding it up over illegal immigrant protections / DACA" HOWEVER The Republicans could have used the nuclear option and get their budget across, but decided not to. They pussed out on doing what needs to be done. Yeah, it was really short-sighted of them to not change the entire process in the Senate just to get what they wanted. If they use the nuclear option that would be the story and it would look terrible for them. The way that they did it was smarter because now they have given the illusion that they are capable of actually working with the Democrats without having to circumvent them or pull an end around or change procedure. Let it be the story if they actually think their budget is good and would work. When it comes time to the election if they can turn around and say "We kept the government running, and made your life better. The Democrats wanted us to shut down and waste money etc...", this 2-3 weeks story of the nuclear option would be forgotten among the general population.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Jan 22, 2018 19:30:42 GMT -5
Are you butt hurt because you didn't pick up on it? It would take a lot more than you trying to pass your stupidity off as intelligence to cause even the slightest of itches on my butt. Use google and tell me how often gov't shutdowns occur and their average length. Then read your "satire" again, you silly child. If you can laugh at how dumb you looked, you made progress. Bullshit. But good job trying to spin it like you didn't think I was dead serious in this discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 0:32:22 GMT -5
Still Trumps fault, right....
"Sen. Cory Gardner said Monday that Democrats will have to explain to the American people why the nearly three-day government shutdown was necessary.
Gardner (R-Colo.) said the "same basic offer" was available to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Friday night but it was rejected, causing the government to shut down over the weekend and into Monday."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 11:06:53 GMT -5
No wall - no DACA deal... ball is in your court chucky
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 11:17:18 GMT -5
It would take a lot more than you trying to pass your stupidity off as intelligence to cause even the slightest of itches on my butt. Use google and tell me how often gov't shutdowns occur and their average length. Then read your "satire" again, you silly child. If you can laugh at how dumb you looked, you made progress. Bullshit. But good job trying to spin it like you didn't think I was dead serious in this discussion. LoL. You're always dead serious until you look like an idiot. Then it becomes "satire". It would seem that the egg I cracked this morning was less fragile than your ego.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 11:18:47 GMT -5
Still Trumps fault, right.... "Sen. Cory Gardner said Monday that Democrats will have to explain to the American people why the nearly three-day government shutdown was necessary. Gardner (R-Colo.) said the "same basic offer" was available to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Friday night but it was rejected, causing the government to shut down over the weekend and into Monday." The mistake Gardner is making is that the Dems are even going to give an explanation. They won't because their support base won't demand it, because none of their support base missed a welfare check due to the shutdown.
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Post by ocmmafan on Jan 24, 2018 11:24:30 GMT -5
Trump tweeting 'Cryin Chuck' is hilarious. And DACA protesters were outside Schumers house last night chanting "NO DACA, NO SLEEP". This really blew up in Schumer's face.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 25, 2018 0:10:51 GMT -5
Monkey Clones!? Now we are getting somewhere.
Two monkeys have been cloned using the technique that produced Dolly the sheep. Identical long-tailed macaques Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were born several weeks ago at a laboratory in China. Scientists say populations of monkeys that are genetically identical will be useful for research into human diseases. But critics say the work raises ethical concerns by bringing the world closer to human cloning. Qiang Sun of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Neuroscience said the cloned monkeys will be useful as a model for studying diseases with a genetic basis, including some cancers, metabolic and immune disorders. "There are a lot of questions about primate biology that can be studied by having this additional model," he said. Zhong Zhong was born eight weeks ago and Hua Hua six weeks ago. They are named after the Mandarin term for the Chinese nation and people. The researchers say the monkeys are being bottle fed and are currently growing normally. They expect more macaque clones to be born over the coming months. 'Not a stepping stone' Prof Robin Lovell-Badge of The Francis Crick Institute, London, said the technique used to clone Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua remains "a very inefficient and hazardous procedure". "The work in this paper is not a stepping-stone to establishing methods for obtaining live born human clones," he said. WATCH: Dolly - the world's most famous sheep Prof Darren Griffin of the University of Kent said the approach may be useful in understanding human diseases, but raised ethical concerns. "Careful consideration now needs to be given to the ethical framework under which such experiments can, and should, operate," he said. Dolly made history 20 years ago after being cloned at the Roslin Institute in Edinburgh. It was the first time scientists had been able to clone a mammal from an adult cell, taken from the udder. Since then many other mammals have been cloned using the same somatic cell nuclear transfer technique (SCNT), including cattle, pigs, dogs, cats, mice and rats. This involves transferring DNA from the nucleus of a cell to a donated egg cell, which has had its own DNA removed. This is then prompted to develop into an embryo and implanted in a surrogate animal. Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua are the first non-human primates cloned through this technique. In 1999, a rhesus monkey embryo was split in two in order to create two identical twins. One of the baby monkeys born through that technique - called Tetra - has the title of the world's first cloned monkey, but it did not involve the complex process of DNA transfer. 'Much failure' In the study, published in the journal Cell, scientists used DNA from foetal cells. After the DNA was transferred to donated eggs, genetic reprogramming was used to alter genes that would otherwise have stopped the embryo developing. Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were the result of 79 attempts. Two other monkeys were initially cloned from a different type of cell, but failed to survive. Dr Sun said: "We tried several different methods, but only one worked. There was much failure before we found a way to successfully clone a monkey." The scientists say they followed strict international guidelines for animal research, set by the US National Institutes of Health. Co-researcher Dr Muming Poo, also of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Shanghai, said: "We are very aware that future research using non-human primates anywhere in the world depends on scientists following very strict ethical standards."
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Post by ocmmafan on Jan 25, 2018 11:02:46 GMT -5
Monkey Clones!? Now we are getting somewhere. Two monkeys have been cloned using the technique that produced Dolly the sheep. Identical long-tailed macaques Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were born several weeks ago at a laboratory in China. Scientists say populations of monkeys that are genetically identical will be useful for research into human diseases. But critics say the work raises ethical concerns by bringing the world closer to human cloning. Qiang Sun of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Neuroscience said the cloned monkeys will be useful as a model for studying diseases with a genetic basis, including some cancers, metabolic and immune disorders. "There are a lot of questions about primate biology that can be studied by having this additional model," he said. Zhong Zhong was born eight weeks ago and Hua Hua six weeks ago. They are named after the Mandarin term for the Chinese nation and people. The researchers say the monkeys are being bottle fed and are currently growing normally. They expect more macaque clones to be born over the coming months. 'Not a stepping stone' Prof Robin Lovell-Badge of The Francis Crick Institute, London, said the technique used to clone Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua remains "a very inefficient and hazardous procedure". "The work in this paper is not a stepping-stone to establishing methods for obtaining live born human clones," he said. WATCH: Dolly - the world's most famous sheep Prof Darren Griffin of the University of Kent said the approach may be useful in understanding human diseases, but raised ethical concerns. "Careful consideration now needs to be given to the ethical framework under which such experiments can, and should, operate," he said. Dolly made history 20 years ago after being cloned at the Roslin Institute in Edinburgh. It was the first time scientists had been able to clone a mammal from an adult cell, taken from the udder. Since then many other mammals have been cloned using the same somatic cell nuclear transfer technique (SCNT), including cattle, pigs, dogs, cats, mice and rats. This involves transferring DNA from the nucleus of a cell to a donated egg cell, which has had its own DNA removed. This is then prompted to develop into an embryo and implanted in a surrogate animal. Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua are the first non-human primates cloned through this technique. In 1999, a rhesus monkey embryo was split in two in order to create two identical twins. One of the baby monkeys born through that technique - called Tetra - has the title of the world's first cloned monkey, but it did not involve the complex process of DNA transfer. 'Much failure' In the study, published in the journal Cell, scientists used DNA from foetal cells. After the DNA was transferred to donated eggs, genetic reprogramming was used to alter genes that would otherwise have stopped the embryo developing. Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were the result of 79 attempts. Two other monkeys were initially cloned from a different type of cell, but failed to survive. Dr Sun said: "We tried several different methods, but only one worked. There was much failure before we found a way to successfully clone a monkey." The scientists say they followed strict international guidelines for animal research, set by the US National Institutes of Health. Co-researcher Dr Muming Poo, also of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Shanghai, said: "We are very aware that future research using non-human primates anywhere in the world depends on scientists following very strict ethical standards." Fascinating, terrifying and exciting.
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Post by matt on Jan 25, 2018 11:20:41 GMT -5
Notice the little brown beta in the front holding the neon sign... He seems to think that someone's going extinct... Well, I'll tell you guys a little story. The story of the most technologically advanced civilization that ever came to be. This civilization was destined to take man's conscious mind, and advance it beyond this dying rock. Unfortunately, that civilization never reached its grand destination, it never reached a conscious infinity, because it died on that rock from apathy, and self inflicted wounds that were inflicted due to believing the lies of the greedy...
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Post by boboplata on Jan 25, 2018 12:01:53 GMT -5
Monkey Clones!? Now we are getting somewhere. Two monkeys have been cloned using the technique that produced Dolly the sheep. Identical long-tailed macaques Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were born several weeks ago at a laboratory in China. Scientists say populations of monkeys that are genetically identical will be useful for research into human diseases. But critics say the work raises ethical concerns by bringing the world closer to human cloning. Qiang Sun of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Neuroscience said the cloned monkeys will be useful as a model for studying diseases with a genetic basis, including some cancers, metabolic and immune disorders. "There are a lot of questions about primate biology that can be studied by having this additional model," he said. Zhong Zhong was born eight weeks ago and Hua Hua six weeks ago. They are named after the Mandarin term for the Chinese nation and people. The researchers say the monkeys are being bottle fed and are currently growing normally. They expect more macaque clones to be born over the coming months. 'Not a stepping stone' Prof Robin Lovell-Badge of The Francis Crick Institute, London, said the technique used to clone Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua remains "a very inefficient and hazardous procedure". "The work in this paper is not a stepping-stone to establishing methods for obtaining live born human clones," he said. WATCH: Dolly - the world's most famous sheep Prof Darren Griffin of the University of Kent said the approach may be useful in understanding human diseases, but raised ethical concerns. "Careful consideration now needs to be given to the ethical framework under which such experiments can, and should, operate," he said. Dolly made history 20 years ago after being cloned at the Roslin Institute in Edinburgh. It was the first time scientists had been able to clone a mammal from an adult cell, taken from the udder. Since then many other mammals have been cloned using the same somatic cell nuclear transfer technique (SCNT), including cattle, pigs, dogs, cats, mice and rats. This involves transferring DNA from the nucleus of a cell to a donated egg cell, which has had its own DNA removed. This is then prompted to develop into an embryo and implanted in a surrogate animal. Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua are the first non-human primates cloned through this technique. In 1999, a rhesus monkey embryo was split in two in order to create two identical twins. One of the baby monkeys born through that technique - called Tetra - has the title of the world's first cloned monkey, but it did not involve the complex process of DNA transfer. 'Much failure' In the study, published in the journal Cell, scientists used DNA from foetal cells. After the DNA was transferred to donated eggs, genetic reprogramming was used to alter genes that would otherwise have stopped the embryo developing. Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were the result of 79 attempts. Two other monkeys were initially cloned from a different type of cell, but failed to survive. Dr Sun said: "We tried several different methods, but only one worked. There was much failure before we found a way to successfully clone a monkey." The scientists say they followed strict international guidelines for animal research, set by the US National Institutes of Health. Co-researcher Dr Muming Poo, also of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Shanghai, said: "We are very aware that future research using non-human primates anywhere in the world depends on scientists following very strict ethical standards." Fascinating, terrifying and exciting. I chuckled at the chinese "following steict ethical standards". Half of their economy is based on stealing tech and producing fake shit. That and they all aloke anyway, I don't see the point of this endeavor...on their side.
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Post by MMAJim on Jan 25, 2018 12:41:27 GMT -5
Notice the little brown beta in the front holding the neon sign... He seems to think that someone's going extinct... Well, I'll tell you guys a little story. The story of the most technologically advanced civilization that ever came to be. This civilization was destined to take man's conscious mind, and advance it beyond this dying rock. Unfortunately, that civilization never reached its grand destination, it never reached a conscious infinity, because it died on that rock from apathy, and self inflicted wounds that were inflicted due to believing the lies of the greedy... This picture reminds me of an important question that I ask myself sometimes. Is this honestly just an elaborate triple deke troll job? Like we've forgotten who is trolling who at this point but this can't be a real picture. This can't be real people at a real protest can it? It's like a game of what is wrong with this picture, except that it's actually everything wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 9:40:28 GMT -5
Aloke?
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Post by PatSox on Jan 28, 2018 23:12:16 GMT -5
Means helloke and goodbyke
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