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Post by Baph on Apr 20, 2017 15:14:19 GMT -5
You see him creeping up about 15 seconds in, and about the 17 second mark he cracks this dude's skull open with a long metal bike lock from behind another guy, masked like a Marxist guerrilla militant, then predictably runs away. This is antifa. This is assault with a deadly weapon. This is censorship. This IS fascism (irony lvl infinity). This is also . . . you can't make this shit up, people . . . now been identified as a fucking professor. Want another bump? You ready? He teaches . . . . ethics.
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/pol/ claims to have identified the Berkeley Antifa rioter who weaponized a giant bike lock as Eric Clanton – a San Francisco State University professor.
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 0:24:49 GMT -5
Europe, Sweden, Germany . . . you may have permanently fucked yourselves. It's 24/7 over there now. Why anyone would intentionally ship half-a-million Muslims into their bustling utopian european jewel is fucking beyond comprehension. www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/europe/champs-elyses-in-paris-closed/A man who killed a police officer on the Champs-Elysees Thursday night was known to French security services for radical Islamist activities and had shot and wounded an officer in the past, a source close to the investigation told CNN. The man was a French national who shot two officers in 2001 after being stopped by a police car, the source said. He was taken into custody but while being questioned grabbed another officer's gun and shot him three times, the source said. The shooting shut down the famed Champs-Elysees, one of Paris' top tourist attractions and home to the iconic Arc de Triomphe monument. The avenue was clear of residents and tourists but teeming with security officers Thursday night. France has been in a state of emergency since the 2015 Paris attacks, which left 130 people dead. Parliament voted in December to extend the extraordinary provisions to ensure the protection of upcoming presidential and general elections.
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 1:16:01 GMT -5
Sit and fucking thing about this for a second. Really walk through it.
The most prominent worldview in most of the Western World is to have a near omnipotent central government restrict speech, disarm the citizenry, punish entrepreneurship, and mass import cultures that despise our way of life.
I mean, where do we even go from here? How do you even start this conversation?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 7:49:18 GMT -5
Sit and fucking thing about this for a second. Really walk through it. The most prominent worldview in most of the Western World is to have a near omnipotent central government restrict speech, disarm the citizenry, punish entrepreneurship, and mass import cultures that despise our way of life. I mean, where do we even go from here? How do you even start this conversation? A good place to start, if one is actually talking to the opposition would be a few pages back when you listed all the dead religions. Discuss Islam being added to the list. Because that's where this seems headed. The IQ's rated at about 73 vs the countries with 100 as the average. Doesn't end well for the dummies when the smart ones wake up- as they are doing right now. If the good Muslims don't want their religion pushed to the brink and extinguished, they need to stand up and fight for their values. But they don't/can't. So it'll fall to the same group who's most known for conquering the lesser intellects throughout history. Mongolia. Get galloping, Mongols.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 9:08:36 GMT -5
Sit and fucking thing about this for a second. Really walk through it. The most prominent worldview in most of the Western World is to have a near omnipotent central government restrict speech, disarm the citizenry, punish entrepreneurship, and mass import cultures that despise our way of life. I mean, where do we even go from here? How do you even start this conversation? I think this type of thing is good for our country. Let these dummies make a big stink, harm innocent people, and damage lots of valuable property that is not their. The more and the louder the better... because, here is the thing... When it comes down to it the conservative wing of this country is in control of the vast majority of the power and the wealth in terms of our economy. If we can get these liberal protesters to really start looking like fucking morons like they are, then the business owners who are conservative are going to say fuck you when it comes to hiring time, the taxpayers are going to say fuck you when it comes to funding more programs that allows these people to have nothing to do but protest and do drugs on the countries dime, and the everyday conservative who already feels they pay way too much in taxes is going to stand up and tell half this country that their free ride is over and its time to contribute or move elsewhere. If "we" can get enough people to wake up and realize this country is out of control we hold all of the power.... and by voluntarily moving to a mostly cash based transaction system, we can choke off the government right at the curated artery.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 10:27:29 GMT -5
Sit and fucking thing about this for a second. Really walk through it. The most prominent worldview in most of the Western World is to have a near omnipotent central government restrict speech, disarm the citizenry, punish entrepreneurship, and mass import cultures that despise our way of life. I mean, where do we even go from here? How do you even start this conversation? I think this type of thing is good for our country. Let these dummies make a big stink, harm innocent people, and damage lots of valuable property that is not their. The more and the louder the better... because, here is the thing... When it comes down to it the conservative wing of this country is in control of the vast majority of the power and the wealth in terms of our economy. If we can get these liberal protesters to really start looking like fucking morons like they are, then the business owners who are conservative are going to say fuck you when it comes to hiring time, the taxpayers are going to say fuck you when it comes to funding more programs that allows these people to have nothing to do but protest and do drugs on the countries dime, and the everyday conservative who already feels they pay way too much in taxes is going to stand up and tell half this country that their free ride is over and its time to contribute or move elsewhere. If "we" can get enough people to wake up and realize this country is out of control we hold all of the power.... and by voluntarily moving to a mostly cash based transaction system, we can choke off the government right at the curated artery. I agree with all of the above. But I would point one thing out. The first group that I made in bold font are typically the parents of the second group put in bold font. What we really need are wealthy people to make sure their kids go learn the actual value of earning your dollars. There aren't many things that pull your head out of the clouds like manual labor does. My dad made me get the shittiest, hardest job I've ever worked when I was in college. I made solid money for a college kid, but I was dog tired at the end of every day and had no life outside of work. He was clearly teaching me a lesson, and I grasped that lesson. Now, look one step behind me in the family. That girl never had to go shovel shit against the tide and was coddled like no other kid in the family was. So now she marches in Boston for the Syrian refugees.
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Post by johncfc on Apr 21, 2017 11:04:34 GMT -5
Not sure if this is water cooler, but definitely isn't random so will post here.
My sister in law and her husband have recently found God. I don't know too much about their church but it sounds like your typical born-again, Dutch reform style place.
I find it all a little bit strange, but they have been through some emotional trauma this year which I am sure is why they have found God. Seems a little cultish to me, but who am I to judge? Not really my business.
Anyways, they offered to watch my kids Saturday night so the wife and I can get away. Last night they texted saying they were going to Church Sunday morning, and would it be ok to bring my kids with them?
My kids are 9 and 6 and not religious. I know it wouldn't be the end of the world for them to go one time, but I have arranged for my brother to pick them up Sunday morning before church.
I haven't contacted them to let them know that my brother will pick up my kids so that they don't have to attend church.
Anyways, the question is whether I should beat the piss out of my sister in law and her husband for offering to watch my kids and then inconveniencing my plans by going to church on Sunday?
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Post by Tapout on Apr 21, 2017 11:47:27 GMT -5
Not sure if this is water cooler, but definitely isn't random so will post here. My sister in law and her husband have recently found God. I don't know too much about their church but it sounds like your typical born-again, Dutch reform style place. I find it all a little bit strange, but they have been through some emotional trauma this year which I am sure is why they have found God. Seems a little cultish to me, but who am I to judge? Not really my business. Anyways, they offered to watch my kids Saturday night so the wife and I can get away. Last night they texted saying they were going to Church Sunday morning, and would it be ok to bring my kids with them? My kids are 9 and 6 and not religious. I know it wouldn't be the end of the world for them to go one time, but I have arranged for my brother to pick them up Sunday morning before church. I haven't contacted them to let them know that my brother will pick up my kids so that they don't have to attend church. Anyways, the question is whether I should beat the piss out of my sister in law and her husband for offering to watch my kids and then inconveniencing my plans by going to church on Sunday? I think this is a good barometer to see how smart your kids are. Let them go. If they question it, you have some smart kids. If they come home talking about Noah, get them a tutor.
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 12:10:11 GMT -5
Interesting topic. More broadly, how do non religious parents navigate the social expectations of friends, family, etc in a religious society as it pertains to people carelessly and audaciously indoctrinating your young children like their personal brand of home-spun voodoo is what ought to be plugged into the formative brain of a 5-yr-old.
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Post by johncfc on Apr 21, 2017 12:28:55 GMT -5
Not sure if this is water cooler, but definitely isn't random so will post here. My sister in law and her husband have recently found God. I don't know too much about their church but it sounds like your typical born-again, Dutch reform style place. I find it all a little bit strange, but they have been through some emotional trauma this year which I am sure is why they have found God. Seems a little cultish to me, but who am I to judge? Not really my business. Anyways, they offered to watch my kids Saturday night so the wife and I can get away. Last night they texted saying they were going to Church Sunday morning, and would it be ok to bring my kids with them? My kids are 9 and 6 and not religious. I know it wouldn't be the end of the world for them to go one time, but I have arranged for my brother to pick them up Sunday morning before church. I haven't contacted them to let them know that my brother will pick up my kids so that they don't have to attend church. Anyways, the question is whether I should beat the piss out of my sister in law and her husband for offering to watch my kids and then inconveniencing my plans by going to church on Sunday? I think this is a good barometer to see how smart your kids are. Let them go. If they question it, you have some smart kids. If they come home talking about Noah, get them a tutor. Last night I told my wife that if they go I want them to keep asking questions about dinosaurs. Then, when Jesus is mentioned say he reminds them of David Blaine.
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Post by johncfc on Apr 21, 2017 12:31:32 GMT -5
Interesting topic. More broadly, how do non religious parents navigate the social expectations of friends, family, etc in a religious society as it pertains to people carelessly and audaciously indoctrinating your young children like their personal brand of home-spun voodoo is what ought to be plugged into the formative brain of a 5-yr-old. I like my suggestion of beating the piss out of them. Which may happen, as I am increasingly getting annoyed that they offered to watch my kids then have the motherfucking audacity to want to bring them to church. I'm bringing their kids to the my place of worship next weekend. Never too young to see the ballet.
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 12:38:09 GMT -5
I do think it's telling that going along with your parents, in-laws, siblings religion and letting them indoctrinate your kids is considered good social etiquette, but could you imagine the nuclear uproar if you sat someone else's 5-yr-old down and lectured them about atheism or islam? Yes, people would be ringing your doorbell ready to fist fight.
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Post by ocmmafan on Apr 21, 2017 12:57:16 GMT -5
You see him creeping up about 15 seconds in, and about the 17 second mark he cracks this dude's skull open with a long metal bike lock from behind another guy, masked like a Marxist guerrilla militant, then predictably runs away. This is antifa. This is assault with a deadly weapon. This is censorship. This IS fascism (irony lvl infinity). This is also . . . you can't make this shit up, people . . . now been identified as a fucking professor. Want another bump? You ready? He teaches . . . . ethics. Irony lvl: god mode. /pol/ claims to have identified the Berkeley Antifa rioter who weaponized a giant bike lock as Eric Clanton – a San Francisco State University professor. They outed this dude very quickly. Feel free to send him an email, I did. Eric Clanton Faculty - Philosophy, Pleasant Hill Campus Eric has been teaching at DVC since 2015. He teaches introduction to philosophy with a background in teaching ethics, critical thinking, and comparative philosophy East/West. His primary research interests are ethics and politics. His work in political philosophy also centers on mass incarceration and the prison system. He is currently exploring restorative justice from an anti-authoritarian perspective. Education M.A. in Philosophy – San Francisco State University B.A. in Philosophy – California State University, Bakersfield Faculty - Philosophy, Pleasant Hill Campus 78498 EClanton@dvc.edu
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 13:23:04 GMT -5
Interesting that 4chan and /pol/ and reddit CONSTANTLY uncover shit and track people down dramatically faster than the FBI.
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Post by Premier on Apr 21, 2017 13:45:16 GMT -5
I did a search for Eric Clanton and there's no mention of him in any recognizable news website or newspaper or magazine online; just in blogs.
Either they are purposely not reporting this or maybe they are claiming that the reddit analysis could not be verified.
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Post by PatSox on Apr 21, 2017 13:55:36 GMT -5
"A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea. Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded." .... Dwight D. Eisenhower, from his fairwell address, 1961
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Post by purerockfury on Apr 21, 2017 13:59:38 GMT -5
Interesting topic. More broadly, how do non religious parents navigate the social expectations of friends, family, etc in a religious society as it pertains to people carelessly and audaciously indoctrinating your young children like their personal brand of home-spun voodoo is what ought to be plugged into the formative brain of a 5-yr-old. Over the last two years my wife started attending church with our 2 boys (5 & 10). When she started, I politely told her that I don't expect to be pressured to attend because she knows my feelings on the subject. She keeps gulping the kool aid and is there 3-4 times a week now. It's not doing our marriage any favors. My 10 year old pretty much just goes with the flow and doesnt say much about it, but my 5 year old dropped this gem on us.... My wife was in the kitchen and while getting the boys cereal said to Crosby (age 5) "Crosby, mommy still doesnt feel good. Will you pray for me to feel better." Crosby annoying told her no. She asked why and he said because it doesnt work. She persisted with her request and he finally sarcastically closed his eyes and said "God, please make my mom feel better, Amen." He then asked her if she felt better and when she said No, he goes "see, I told you so. Now please pass the milk." It was absolutely priceless and perfect.
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 14:30:25 GMT -5
My wife came from a VERY religious family; I came from a casually religious family, and our boys are in daycare at a local church. I get it from all sides, 24/7. It used to upset me but recently I realized the futility of it all. They can propagandize them from every angle for years on end, and I can undo it all with a single question at bed time. Kids are smarter than a lot of folks give them credit for. Imaginary shit is pretty easy to poke holes in.
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Post by Tapout on Apr 21, 2017 15:18:18 GMT -5
My wife came from a VERY religious family; I came from a casually religious family, and our boys are in daycare at a local church. I get it from all sides, 24/7. It used to upset me but recently I realized the futility of it all. They can propagandize them from every angle for years on end, and I can undo it all with a single question at bed time. Kids are smarter than a lot of folks give them credit for. Imaginary shit is pretty easy to poke holes in. Right. This is what I do. My sons dad is a holy roller, and when he starts talking about that shit I simply ask, "Well, what do YOU think? Don't tell me what people at church tell you to think, tell me what YOU think."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 15:20:31 GMT -5
Most of these college kids and the academes they hold in thrall are, of course, either closeted or open-supporters of Socialism.
So it's probably appropriate that the government of socialist-shithole Venezuela, struggling to un-wreck its economy and keep its inflation rate below triple digits, nationalized (read: seized, as in "we own this shit now") a General Motors plant within its borders.
A couple thousand workers "toil" at this plant, which has been almost completely idled since late 2015 due to shrinking demand and GM's now- prescient concerns about the deteriorating political/economic situation there.
So these hardly-working-but-still-gettin'-paid workers will NOW learn what it's REALLY like to be out of work AND out of a paycheck!
No doubt the Venezuelan government has BIG plans for the plant. They'll probably execute drug traffickers there. Or, maybe manufacture anti-Trump literature and clothingwear. That'll get -'em up 'n running again....
I'd really like to hear some interviews with these anti-capitalism morons on this subject, especially since the majority of them are attending college due to the foresight and generosity of their parents....who earned their wealth at corporations like GM.
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Post by Baph on Apr 21, 2017 17:29:53 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Apr 22, 2017 0:02:09 GMT -5
I should totally start going to these events with coulture and milo.....beat up a few antifa homos real quick right before I eat a burger and hit the road after the show...kidding of course, but honestly speaking these antifa queefs took a beating last time out and there's speculation that they're gonna up thier weapons game next time around...and the cops are on paid stand down during these events so it's a free for all, anything goes....I guess until some one takes a blade to the neck or a round or two to the noggin...but yeah it's crazy it's like larpers gone wild, this last scene looked like something from Gladiator...
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Post by Premier on Apr 22, 2017 1:35:46 GMT -5
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Post by Angelo on Apr 22, 2017 2:27:40 GMT -5
That article is about round 1 voting (basically sorta their version of a general primaries), and has been predicting Le Pen to make it since before she was officially running. The toss-up was Macron and Fillon, but after the scandal Fillon took a huge hit. Round 2 (basically our general election) Le Pen has never held a round 2 polled lead against any of the other three (not even crazy Melenchon). However, and here is the crazy thing. France's "undecided" among likely voters in round 2 has never been that large (I think 6% has been the largest since modern political polling), and yet right now the lowest polled undecided is 30%, some showing up to 38%. Lets assume the 30% undecided likely voters actually go and vote. She'd need about 87% of the undecided vote to beat Macron (the highest poling against her) and 70% of the undecided to beat Melenchon (lowest against her). After the recent attack, expect Melenchon to go down, Fillon to go up. The big wild card right now is if Fillon can pull off the upset in round 1 after recent events.
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Post by jsporty1 on Apr 22, 2017 2:51:29 GMT -5
If LePen (or anyone else) gets over 50% of the vote in round 1, it's over. There is no need for a second round (runoff). The big question is whether or not the attack will help her achieve that. It could happen. I can't even imagine the reaction in the immigrant neighborhoods in the outskirts of Paris if this is the case. The riots and car burning of a few years back will look like nothing. I voted for Trump. I would never vote for Marine Le Pen.
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Post by Angelo on Apr 22, 2017 18:43:05 GMT -5
So they found a different copy of the Deceleration of Independence.
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Post by daywork on Apr 22, 2017 19:18:52 GMT -5
If LePen (or anyone else) gets over 50% of the vote in round 1, it's over. There is no need for a second round (runoff). The big question is whether or not the attack will help her achieve that. It could happen. I can't even imagine the reaction in the immigrant neighborhoods in the outskirts of Paris if this is the case. The riots and car burning of a few years back will look like nothing. I voted for Trump. I would never vote for Marine Le Pen. I don't know anything about whats going on over there except that the media doesn't like LePen. So I'm rooting for her LOL
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Post by Angelo on Apr 22, 2017 19:26:28 GMT -5
If LePen (or anyone else) gets over 50% of the vote in round 1, it's over. There is no need for a second round (runoff). The big question is whether or not the attack will help her achieve that. It could happen. I can't even imagine the reaction in the immigrant neighborhoods in the outskirts of Paris if this is the case. The riots and car burning of a few years back will look like nothing. I voted for Trump. I would never vote for Marine Le Pen. I don't know anything about whats going on over there except that the media doesn't like LePen. So I'm rooting for her LOL If you looked into them, Fillon is probably who most of this board would support. LePen is to the left of Obama, with the genocidal dreams of Hitler.
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Post by daywork on Apr 22, 2017 19:39:29 GMT -5
I think I read she wants to break off from the EU. Oh and she wants to stop immigration. Plus I watched something showing the media saying she has no chance to win much like they said about Trump over here.
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Post by daywork on Apr 22, 2017 19:45:46 GMT -5
Latest odds on the next President of France:
Emmanuel Macron – 4/5
Marine Le Pen – 7/2
François Fillon – 9/2
Jean-Luc Mélenchon – 23/1
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