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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:38:35 GMT -5
If there's one bright spot in the future that is a result of all of this political bullshit that has gotten so out of hand it's this: I'm seeing a lot more libertarian presence in political circles. I think slowly but surely people are really starting to see that a Democrat is really a republican wearing a blue tie and a republican is really a Democrat wearing a red tie. Same shit. Different tie. The fact that our current president who is listed as a republican but spent so many years falling more on the side of the Democrats- is very indicative of our problem. I think Trump getting in the mix is good for this country because it forces people to start paying attention. Sure you have to deal with the fucking retards who just believe everything the TV tells them and then turn around and go out and bleat it on social media like the Sheep they are- but those people are a minority. They only seem like a majority because they are so goddamn vociferous. You don't have to pay attention for very long to start realizing that the Democrats and the Republicans are letting Perfection be the enemy of good. Both sides are guilty of it. They expect Perfection from their opposition and when it is not achieved, they mock. And the bleating sheep eat it up shout it from the mountain tops. But I believe as more people actually wake up to this unfortunate reality, the libertarian party stands to gain a lot more members. I can see it in my own States politics. It used to be that all of the Libertarians were shooting for the Governor's Mansion. I think they reeled back their expectations a bit and got a little more realistic. Because I'm seeing a good number of people who identify as Libertarians putting their names out there as candidates for State congressional seats. I only hope that this trend turns into something meaningful. I will tell you, if it starts to happen in Maine then it will start to happen in the rest of the country. Most people don't realize how influential the state of Maine is when it comes to politics in the rest of the country. Libertarians starting to get into the mix more is a very good sign that this current shitstorm will have consequences for both political parties who are definitely suffering from a case of feeling untouchable. I hope we reach out and touch them. And I hope we send them back to their homes to watch what happens when you actually give libertarianism a chance. That should be a libertarian slogan. "All we are saying, is give libertarianism a chance." I've seen a shift in some of my friends into a more Libertarian outlook but many seem to be Republicans. I don't see many Democrats making the move which sucks. I don't consider myself Republican but if I want a party to fracture and lose influence, I want it to be Democrats. That is why even as a Libertarian, I will vote Republican just to keep ass-faced Democrats out of office. Just out of curiosity, how does Maine influence politics? Not saying it doesn't it arguing, just wondering. |
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Post by matt on Jul 19, 2017 12:24:14 GMT -5
I find it interesting how much use Obama and his team made of the NSA after the nsa was granted magical spying powers by the Patriot Act, which was put in place by Bush jr, as a direct response to the 911 attacks. Also interesting are the Wikileaks emails between Obama and Bush jr in which they're discussing the transition of team Obama into the white house...months prior to Obama being elected in 2008. The BO and GWB emails prior to election would be more interesting if there was not similar discussion between GWB and McCain (and this is in the form of a question, bc I have not looked for the answer as to whether or not there was GWB -> McCain prep). I would guess that tranny discussions happen with both major party candidates. Also, if you are implying that a double term president always smoothly coordinates the white house transtion with an opposite party candidate (BEFORE the election mind you) Then why was there a complete lack of pre election transition emails between trump and Obama?! Actually it was the opposite, we saw Obama start a "resist" campaign instead of transitioning smoothly... |
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Post by MMAJim on Jul 19, 2017 12:36:24 GMT -5
I'm suggesting that it GWB may have likely been in touch with both party candidates in prelim transition talks before the November election, so communication between GWB and BO in and of itself is not that indicative of a global elite conspiracy to install a puppet.
BO is not the same as GWB. I would believe his transition game was weak because of who he seems to be personally and because of the nature of both potentially transitioning candidates. If you look historically from GWB backwards, I don't think you'll find communication between a sitting President and either both candidates or the candidate ahead in the pools prior to the actual November election much of an oddity.
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Post by matt on Jul 19, 2017 12:44:23 GMT -5
I'm suggesting that it GWB may have likely been in touch with both party candidates in prelim transition talks before the November election, so communication between GWB and BO in and of itself is not that indicative of a global elite conspiracy to install a puppet. BO is not the same as GWB. I would believe his transition game was weak because of who he seems to be personally and because of the nature of both potentially transitioning candidates. If you look historically from GWB backwards, I don't think you'll find communication between a sitting President and either both candidates or the candidate ahead in the pools prior to the actual November election much of an oddity. I've yet to find any emails between bush jr and anyone but Obama discussing a smooth transition, prior to election . I find plenty of material where bush jr publicly endorses mccain...no secret emails that I've found though. |
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Post by Baph on Jul 19, 2017 13:03:30 GMT -5
If there's one bright spot in the future that is a result of all of this political bullshit that has gotten so out of hand it's this: I'm seeing a lot more libertarian presence in political circles. I think slowly but surely people are really starting to see that a Democrat is really a republican wearing a blue tie and a republican is really a Democrat wearing a red tie. Same shit. Different tie. The fact that our current president who is listed as a republican but spent so many years falling more on the side of the Democrats- is very indicative of our problem. I think Trump getting in the mix is good for this country because it forces people to start paying attention. Sure you have to deal with the fucking retards who just believe everything the TV tells them and then turn around and go out and bleat it on social media like the Sheep they are- but those people are a minority. They only seem like a majority because they are so goddamn vociferous. You don't have to pay attention for very long to start realizing that the Democrats and the Republicans are letting Perfection be the enemy of good. Both sides are guilty of it. They expect Perfection from their opposition and when it is not achieved, they mock. And the bleating sheep eat it up shout it from the mountain tops. But I believe as more people actually wake up to this unfortunate reality, the libertarian party stands to gain a lot more members. I can see it in my own States politics. It used to be that all of the Libertarians were shooting for the Governor's Mansion. I think they reeled back their expectations a bit and got a little more realistic. Because I'm seeing a good number of people who identify as Libertarians putting their names out there as candidates for State congressional seats. I only hope that this trend turns into something meaningful. I will tell you, if it starts to happen in Maine then it will start to happen in the rest of the country. Most people don't realize how influential the state of Maine is when it comes to politics in the rest of the country. Libertarians starting to get into the mix more is a very good sign that this current shitstorm will have consequences for both political parties who are definitely suffering from a case of feeling untouchable. I hope we reach out and touch them. And I hope we send them back to their homes to watch what happens when you actually give libertarianism a chance. That should be a libertarian slogan. "All we are saying, is give libertarianism a chance." I've seen a shift in some of my friends into a more Libertarian outlook but many seem to be Republicans. I don't see many Democrats making the move which sucks. I don't consider myself Republican but if I want a party to fracture and lose influence, I want it to be Democrats. That is why even as a Libertarian, I will vote Republican just to keep ass-faced Democrats out of office. Just out of curiosity, how does Maine influence politics? Not saying it doesn't it arguing, just wondering. Unfortunately, this is precisely what will happen. It's happening already with the healthcare bill. And it will only get worse. Imagine John McCain trying to sit down with Rand Paul and agree on something. There's nothing even remotely resembling this kind of spectrum and fracturing in the great and holy church of centralized power. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 14:33:03 GMT -5
I think Republicans are already primed in their mentality to become libertarians, because their ideology far more closely resembles it than the Democrat ideology of government in everything is. It's a hard swing to get people from the left to take that far a step to the right.
As far as the phrase "As Goes Maine So Goes The Nation" is concerned, it originally started because our governor elections were the first in the country, and were seen as an accurate predictor of the impending presidential election. We no longer are first to elect our governor, but we are still one of the best representations of the dichotomy between the two parties and the impact that has on a national level. Look how fractured this country is right now, then consider that there was only one state in the entire country that sent Electoral Delegates to both candidates.
We also legalized medical the same time California did, and our politicians typically carry a good deal of weight in Washington. Guys like Bill Cohen and George Mitchell and women like Olympia Snowe (who's retirement over the state of Congress being "broken" was a big deal) and Susan Collins- who pretty much tanked the GOP's healthcare plan specifically because she's planning on leaving Congress and running for Governor of Maine next year.)
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Post by Angelo on Jul 19, 2017 14:59:57 GMT -5
1. OJ (who's Parole hearing was to be airing live on TV tomorrow), now may have it delayed as he got caught masturbating in his cell so got written up on disciplinary charges which could stop the hearing.
2. Early #s (from even the independent polls that had Trump beating Hillary when everyone was gushing over Hillary's lead) have Trump losing to all potential candidates from both sides currently. HOWEVER, Hillary's #s are even worse! HAHAHAHAH As much as people are turning on Trump, they are hating Hillary even more with her out of the limelight.
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Post by matt on Jul 19, 2017 22:13:58 GMT -5
John McCain supposedly has brain cancer.
I wonder who the dems will pick to fill his spot when he passes away?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 0:29:15 GMT -5
This makes sense with his recent mental lapses and bad judgment. When will we find out that Nancy Pelosi's whole head is filled with marshmallow?
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Post by Angelo on Jul 20, 2017 1:00:50 GMT -5
Mad Cow in Alabama other day.
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Post by Baph on Jul 20, 2017 11:28:46 GMT -5
I think Republicans are already primed in their mentality to become libertarians, because their ideology far more closely resembles it than the Democrat ideology of government in everything is. It's a hard swing to get people from the left to take that far a step to the right. Absolutely correct. The leap from progressive to libertarian is a cosmic light year. It's a fundamental rejection of everything you believe in favor of it's polar opposite. It just doesn't happen. The leap from conservative to libertarian is merely backing off on social finger wagging and this false believe that you can control private behavior. Simple enough. And then you're there. Not being wild about gay marriage or recreational drug use but also realizing you can't make some fucking decree like you're King Richard III . . . well, that's common fucking sense. Boom. Magic. Now you're a libertarian. See how easy that was? Now back off about 25% on your military trigger finger and we're golden. |
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Post by Baph on Jul 20, 2017 11:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by Premier on Jul 20, 2017 12:32:53 GMT -5
Tony, these people are selling a brand new 2006 EVO. It only has 9 miles and I guess its considered new because it was never titled.
Bidding is at 100K.
Here is your chance to finally buy one and send us a Picture...lol.
I forgot who was Tony's nemesis back then. The good old days of the evo and that famous mountain.
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Post by Premier on Jul 20, 2017 12:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 13:22:57 GMT -5
Tony, these people are selling a brand new 2006 EVO. It only has 9 miles and I guess its considered new because it was never titled. Bidding is at 100K. Here is your chance to finally buy one and send us a Picture...lol. I forgot who was Tony's nemesis back then. The good old days of the evo and that famous mountain. 100k? Who's the moron willing to spend that much for a piece of junk? Good news on the mountain front is that it will be mine in a few years. All mine. |
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jul 20, 2017 15:55:26 GMT -5
Signed my apartment lease today. 600, 2 bedroom. Downtown bath NY. 3 miles from the VA..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 16:01:58 GMT -5
Why are you living in New York? What do you think of it so far?
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Post by slaytan on Jul 20, 2017 16:33:15 GMT -5
I think Republicans are already primed in their mentality to become libertarians, because their ideology far more closely resembles it than the Democrat ideology of government in everything is. It's a hard swing to get people from the left to take that far a step to the right. Absolutely correct. The leap from progressive to libertarian is a cosmic light year. It's a fundamental rejection of everything you believe in favor of it's polar opposite. It just doesn't happen. The leap from conservative to libertarian is merely backing off on social finger wagging and this false believe that you can control private behavior. Simple enough. And then you're there. Not being wild about gay marriage or recreational drug use but also realizing you can't make some fucking decree like you're King Richard III . . . well, that's common fucking sense. Boom. Magic. Now you're a libertarian. See how easy that was? Now back off about 25% on your military trigger finger and we're golden. It's true that most conservatives are libertarians who buy into drug war propaganda |
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Post by Angelo on Jul 20, 2017 17:01:34 GMT -5
Musk got approval for a NY-DC Hyperloop, yet still doesn't have even a proof-of-concept for the main part of the project... the tubes themselves. Right now NASA still has the largest working vacuum chamber pump, and all attempts to make a larger one has failed. The proposed LA-SF hyperloop (roughly 370 miles) would need one that can handle 66 times as much as NASA's.
Rich people and politicians throwing money and shit without even realizing there isn't a base to the technology yet. What happened to proof of concept and business plans beyond "lets do this so this will happen" and leave out the details.
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Post by Angelo on Jul 20, 2017 17:11:52 GMT -5
Oh, and in more Cops Gone Crazy news..
1. A Baltimore police officer seemingly forgot he was wearing a body cam and got busted planted drugs in a bust.
2. A woman called to report a potential rape behind her house, twice, cops finally show up and shoot her through the passenger window because he heard a sudden noise (her coming out in her pajamas to tell them where the noises were coming from).
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jul 20, 2017 18:58:37 GMT -5
Why are you living in New York? What do you think of it so far? I'm going to stay here for a couple reasons. One to get away from my drug crew, I'm already involved in outpatient care here, it's beautiful, and its a small town. Here I have to find drugs, instead of drugs finding me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 20:22:23 GMT -5
Why are you living in New York? What do you think of it so far? I'm going to stay here for a couple reasons. One to get away from my drug crew, I'm already involved in outpatient care here, it's beautiful, and its a small town. Here I have to find drugs, instead of drugs finding me. I REALLY hope this sticks. You sound happy, healthy and coherent... keep it up! |
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Post by Premier on Jul 20, 2017 21:51:48 GMT -5
Why are you living in New York? What do you think of it so far? I'm going to stay here for a couple reasons. One to get away from my drug crew, I'm already involved in outpatient care here, it's beautiful, and its a small town. Here I have to find drugs, instead of drugs finding me. I was going to say...hopefully its in the better part of town far away from any drug dealers. Unfortunately, oftentimes in little towns like that, drugs are prevalent. Bunch of bored people that just get fucked up because there is nothing else to do. By now, I know you can spot a user a mile away. So as soon and you find yourself close to one of those people, run the other way. |
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Post by Angelo on Jul 20, 2017 22:04:42 GMT -5
I'm going to stay here for a couple reasons. One to get away from my drug crew, I'm already involved in outpatient care here, it's beautiful, and its a small town. Here I have to find drugs, instead of drugs finding me. I was going to say...hopefully its in the better part of town far away from any drug dealers. Unfortunately, oftentimes in little towns like that, drugs are prevalent. Bunch of bored people that just get fucked up because there is nothing else to do. By now, I know you can spot a user a mile away. So as soon and you find yourself close to one of those people, run the other way. He's in Bath he said, most of the harder drugs he'll probably have to look for or travel about 40 miles north. The cops down there though used to sell weed but supposedly that has been cleaned up. Lot of meth, X, and guns run thru the area on its way to parts of PA because it on the 390/86, but last I heard it was still a do-not-stop area because they didn't want to piss off the state troopers in the area and tighten up the line. As long as the bear doesn't wander out into the boonies, and finds a distracting hobby to get addicted to instead, should be easy enough to avoid it. |
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Post by Baph on Jul 21, 2017 0:28:00 GMT -5
Reason, Libertarian Republic, and the National Review all put out pieces this week thrashing Jeff Sessions on drug enforcement and asset forfiture.
This sort of thing just did not happen during Obama's tenure. Self critique of the right, from the right. Frustrating when you're trying to get bills passed, but hey, at least it's not a fucking Marxist cult that goes full hypno sycophant for 8 years before remembering they were supposed to be anti-war people.
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Post by Angelo on Jul 21, 2017 0:54:44 GMT -5
Reason, Libertarian Republic, and the National Review all put out pieces this week thrashing Jeff Sessions on drug enforcement and asset forfiture. This sort of thing just did not happen during Obama's tenure. Self critique of the right, from the right. Frustrating when you're trying to get bills passed, but hey, at least it's not a fucking Marxist cult that goes full hypno sycophant for 8 years before remembering they were supposed to be anti-war people. Trump is going after Sessions saying he never would have nominated him if he thought he'd recuse himself from the Russian shit. I think he should have instead cloaked his displeasure by going after Sessions on this drug shit gaining him some allies from the other side and making it easier to replace him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 6:03:56 GMT -5
We talked about it a couple of weeks ago but Merck employees still aren't all be k to work. This is freaking crazy. They have my brother coming in cleaning up shit. Not even sure if a lot of employees will be getting paid.
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Post by purerockfury on Jul 21, 2017 8:37:49 GMT -5
We talked about it a couple of weeks ago but Merck employees still aren't all be k to work. This is freaking crazy. They have my brother coming in cleaning up shit. Not even sure if a lot of employees will be getting paid. That's wild. Where is he located at? My buddy works at their main office and he is back to work. |
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Post by johncfc on Jul 21, 2017 9:02:39 GMT -5
I was going to say...hopefully its in the better part of town far away from any drug dealers. Unfortunately, oftentimes in little towns like that, drugs are prevalent. Bunch of bored people that just get fucked up because there is nothing else to do. By now, I know you can spot a user a mile away. So as soon and you find yourself close to one of those people, run the other way. He's in Bath he said, most of the harder drugs he'll probably have to look for or travel about 40 miles north. The cops down there though used to sell weed but supposedly that has been cleaned up. Lot of meth, X, and guns run thru the area on its way to parts of PA because it on the 390/86, but last I heard it was still a do-not-stop area because they didn't want to piss off the state troopers in the area and tighten up the line. As long as the bear doesn't wander out into the boonies, and finds a distracting hobby to get addicted to instead, should be easy enough to avoid it. Last you heard? |
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jul 21, 2017 10:33:17 GMT -5
I'm going to stay here for a couple reasons. One to get away from my drug crew, I'm already involved in outpatient care here, it's beautiful, and its a small town. Here I have to find drugs, instead of drugs finding me. I REALLY hope this sticks. You sound happy, healthy and coherent... keep it up! Thanks man. I feel good, smell good, and look good..lol. longest I've been sober in years. No desire to open that dark door. Bath, like any other small town, is ineduated with meth, it's country cocaine, but I gotta look for it, back home, I was neck deep in the game. I have a feeling the last time jackel was thru Bath was over 10 years ago...lol. |
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