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Post by mmaphreak on May 11, 2017 11:43:37 GMT -5
To be fair here, prior to WWI the French were basically badasses for their entire existance. I'm not sure what happened, but it seems it's been all downhill for about the last century or so. The same thing that's going to happen to us... |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:49:31 GMT -5
Could you fucking imagine an all white graduation at a major university? National fucking Armageddon. University of Wisconsin has one every year. They call it "graduation" I was going to say the same thing, only with the University of Maine. |
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Post by Baph on May 11, 2017 12:15:12 GMT -5
To be fair here, prior to WWI the French were basically badasses for their entire existance. I'm not sure what happened, but it seems it's been all downhill for about the last century or so. The same thing that's going to happen to us... Same thing that happens to every extremely successful society: they grow soft, decadent, turn on themselves in a time of peace and abundance, and rot from the inside out. See: millenials. I've been to France twice and I can tell you there's a LOT of shit in Paris that didn't come from Pairs. Treasures, trophies, art, sculptures, gold, from every corner of the world absolutely packed into every museum and state building and even spilling out onto street corners and public squares. And embarrassment of riches and war spoils. |
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Post by Baph on May 11, 2017 12:20:54 GMT -5
Aetna has lost around $200 million since Obamacare and is now pulling out of several state exchanges. Humana and United Health are also withdrawing. More are expected. This idea that the federal government will provide a marketplace of choices . . . while being marxist/socialist in nature . . . is absolutely bewildering and clearly non-functional.
I will also say this: the best possible outcome here would be if Hitlary won, left it intact, and we got to see it truly crumble on it's own and the case for a different direction became overpowering. This luke-warm frankenstein remix Trump is doing is how the waters get permanently muddied and . . . swamp-like.
Earnings reports and projected rates are coming out this week and it looks like a fucking blood bath. Having the people with income cover the people with low/no income for every already hyper inflated Dr bill is clearly not going to work. Forcing insurance companies to cover people who smoke, drink, are 100 lbs overweight, is also clearly not going to work. The concept of insurance in general is questionable at this point. CareFirst is projecting a 52% premium hike in 2018. This is aggressively becoming unsustainable. We know social security is unsustainable and will collapse, but like a few decades from now. Healthcare is going to collapse within 2-3 years max. It's happening right fucking now.
This has become so complex, so convoluted, so chaotic, that it's actually worse . . . believe it or not . . . than what we had before, which was already not great. This is the government turning a bloated, inefficient healthcare racket into the DMV. You thought it was bad before? Just fucking wait.
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Post by Baph on May 12, 2017 0:05:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 14:28:17 GMT -5
Aetna has lost around $200 million since Obamacare and is now pulling out of several state exchanges. Humana and United Health are also withdrawing. More are expected. This idea that the federal government will provide a marketplace of choices . . . while being marxist/socialist in nature . . . is absolutely bewildering and clearly non-functional. I will also say this: the best possible outcome here would be if Hitlary won, left it intact, and we got to see it truly crumble on it's own and the case for a different direction became overpowering. This luke-warm frankenstein remix Trump is doing is how the waters get permanently muddied and . . . swamp-like. Earnings reports and projected rates are coming out this week and it looks like a fucking blood bath. Having the people with income cover the people with low/no income for every already hyper inflated Dr bill is clearly not going to work. Forcing insurance companies to cover people who smoke, drink, are 100 lbs overweight, is also clearly not going to work. The concept of insurance in general is questionable at this point. CareFirst is projecting a 52% premium hike in 2018. This is aggressively becoming unsustainable. We know social security is unsustainable and will collapse, but like a few decades from now. Healthcare is going to collapse within 2-3 years max. It's happening right fucking now. This has become so complex, so convoluted, so chaotic, that it's actually worse . . . believe it or not . . . than what we had before, which was already not great. This is the government turning a bloated, inefficient healthcare racket into the DMV. You thought it was bad before? Just fucking wait. I've always said get rid of health insurance. Make it catastrophic only. You don't buy insurance for your car with the expectation that it will cover oil changes and wheel alignments. Some doctors are turning to programs where you pay a monthly fee to be in the program, insurance isn't accepted and the docs promise to have time carved out od every day to see you for acute visits otherwise you make the appointment. I cannot think of the name of this for the life of me right now but when it comes to me I will post it, I'm sure Jackel will quickly Google it and pretend to be an expert on all of the negative sides if this program. I, too wish they would have just let it burn to the ground but then again, that may affect my job opportunities so.... I'ma be selfish. I see only one outcome. Complete collapse of the market, 2008 housing style. Then we will be heading for a single payer. Republicans shot themselves in the foot by trying to fix something halfway off the cliff. Now when it crashes in the canyom, it will be their fault and the liberals would have been right all along. "If only you left Obamacare alone! Blah blah blah" and people will buy into it and want out benevolent government to step in. The better solution would be to take it on the chin, everybody hunker down for several years, and completely change the market. Make government's only role as I have described before, testing drugs for efficacy and safety. This won't happen though. We have become too mentally weak and reliant on big daddy government and we will all be soaking in our subpar care VA style wondering why grandma died of breast cancer because there was a 6 month wait on seeing a specialist. |
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Post by Angelo on May 12, 2017 15:20:20 GMT -5
I've always said get rid of health insurance. Make it catastrophic only. You don't buy insurance for your car with the expectation that it will cover oil changes and wheel alignments. Some doctors are turning to programs where you pay a monthly fee to be in the program, insurance isn't accepted and the docs promise to have time carved out od every day to see you for acute visits otherwise you make the appointment. I cannot think of the name of this for the life of me right now but when it comes to me I will post it, I'm sure Jackel will quickly Google it and pretend to be an expert on all of the negative sides if this program. I don't know the program you are talking, but an example of how bloated health insurance is. Right now enough is paid per year in premiums alone (not even including what you pay towards deductible) for universal coverage with the quality of a top-tier plan. So Americans who pay for health insurance are already paying more than they'd be taxed under a single payer system, while still currently being taxed more than they would be under a single payer system. This hybrid health system we have is fucking us at both ends. |
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Post by Angelo on May 12, 2017 18:31:55 GMT -5
So this may wind up needing its own thread depending on the aftermath, but massive cyberattack around the world today using NSA developed tools. Looking like over 100 countries hit. Russia and the UK were hit real bad, with the UK having to actually shut down hospitals and turn away patients in many places.
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Post by Baph on May 12, 2017 22:33:34 GMT -5
Yeah but I trust the NSA to have the power to look at every cell phone call, text, video, and email in the universe because . . . terrorism . . . or something . . . and no way that power is abused or stolen and turned against uuuussssssss . . . . welp, fuck.
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Post by Angelo on May 12, 2017 23:05:30 GMT -5
Yeah but I trust the NSA to have the power to look at every cell phone call, text, video, and email in the universe because . . . terrorism . . . or something . . . and no way that power is abused or stolen and turned against uuuussssssss . . . . welp, fuck. I wonder if anyone gonna wind up suing them. Many companies in the US have been sued because of their security breaches. |
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Post by Baph on May 12, 2017 23:26:19 GMT -5
The government is only here to help us though. Its not their fault they illegally spy on the whole planet without cause or warrant and have now exposed all of us to hyper-evolved ransom hacking. Those greedy corporations that did similar, less damaging things on a much smaller scale deserved to be sued because capitalism is bad for the environment.
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Post by Baph on May 14, 2017 11:05:58 GMT -5
 Is it bad when someone sends you an article to counter your point, but you actually agree with the article 100% . . . just not in the socratic way it was posed? Like, literally, I agree. "No, it's satire . . . rhetorical, it's pointing out . . . " Yeah, I get it, it's just not funny. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 11:39:15 GMT -5
Is it bad when someone sends you an article to counter your point, but you actually agree with the article 100% . . . just not in the socratic way it was posed? Like, literally, I agree. "No, it's satire . . . rhetorical, it's pointing out . . . " Yeah, I get it, it's just not funny. Dubuque, Iowa is where I was born and raised; weird seeing an article from there. Rod Blum was a sophomore-sensation BB player who once scored 40 points in a sophomore game prior to his promotion to the varsity.
It's good to see 'ol Rod still has his head on straight. I barely knew him but his fellow second-team all conference guard teammate, Mike Meyer, was a neighbor.
Yeah I know..."Cyber, who cares?" Nobody, I expect, but it was fun to read anyway.
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Post by Baph on May 14, 2017 11:47:30 GMT -5
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Post by Baph on May 14, 2017 14:31:08 GMT -5
Couple of observations:
Outside of Mesopotamian river valleys and Egypt, basically nothing outside of primitive tribal survival quests went on for a loooooooong ass time. How old the planet is . . . it's almost not worth thinking about as I don't think we're capable of really grasping time on that scale. Just getting some inkling of how old societies are is difficult, and seeing how sluggish and conservative societal growth was for hundreds and hundreds of years is incredible, even though it's essentially watching paint dry because . . . well, nothing happens. We cling to life next to rivers for a couple thousand years. It's hard to grasp the sheer weight of that uninterrupted timeline where it's basically Persian tribes and Egypt and that's it.
Then, holy shit the fucking 1980s pro-wrestling-style bar fight that erupts once civilizations reach a critical mass and become mobile, technological, and ambitious. Basically taking turns conquering each other, consolidating territory, mutiny, invasion, re-conquest, capturing neighboring countries and occasionally the whole of Europe, India, and Asia, only to lose it all again in a matter of a few short years. Utter fucking chaos. Bloody fucking chaos, actually.
Finally, how shockingly young and new the current map is as we'd recognize it today. The world as it exists today is a baby. But, based on the year-to-year volatility we've seen, it's remarkably stable as well. Like the population is entering adulthood after a volatile adolescence .
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Post by Baph on May 15, 2017 10:00:01 GMT -5
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Post by Baph on May 15, 2017 10:04:51 GMT -5
This is not white privlidge. This is men being 4x more likely to commit violent crime than women, and black men being 2x more likely than that, and people acting accordingly. The chances that a 120 lb, college-educated girl (regardless of race, you fuck-stick) will do something dangerous with a sword is near zero. The chances that a man with a gun (regardless of race, you fuck-stick) will get campus shut down because of a social paranoia about school shootings is near 100. Your little observations is ridiculous.
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Post by johncfc on May 15, 2017 10:27:02 GMT -5
This is not white privlidge. This is men being 4x more likely to commit violent crime than women, and black men being 2x more likely than that, and people acting accordingly. The chances that a 120 lb, college-educated girl (regardless of race, you fuck-stick) will do something dangerous with a sword is near zero. The chances that a man with a gun (regardless of race, you fuck-stick) will get campus shut down because of a social paranoia about school shootings is near 100. Your little observations is ridiculous. I don't think it is white privilege either. But, if it was a black girl on a quad with a sword I'm willing to bet the reaction would have been different. I could be wrong, but I don't think it would have been seen as cute. |
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Post by matt on May 15, 2017 10:42:40 GMT -5
This story is about the African American "crime culture" and it's repercussions, not white privilege. |
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Post by Baph on May 15, 2017 11:01:21 GMT -5
This is not white privlidge. This is men being 4x more likely to commit violent crime than women, and black men being 2x more likely than that, and people acting accordingly. The chances that a 120 lb, college-educated girl (regardless of race, you fuck-stick) will do something dangerous with a sword is near zero. The chances that a man with a gun (regardless of race, you fuck-stick) will get campus shut down because of a social paranoia about school shootings is near 100. Your little observations is ridiculous. I don't think it is white privilege either. But, if it was a black girl on a quad with a sword I'm willing to bet the reaction would have been different. I could be wrong, but I don't think it would have been seen as cute. What if it was an asian girl? Is every-fucking-thing evidence of white privlidge because we're hell bent on cultural self loathing or is there a simpler explanation, like small cute women with unruly weapons aren't threatening, have no history of incidents, and wouldn't be terribly dangerous even if they tried to be. Whereas a guy walking around campus with a gun triggers (yeah, I said it) vivid memories of shootings, and fucking massacres, by young men at schools, so the reaction is visceral and strong. Or, you're an agenda blinded cunt and you only see that the girl is white and the guy was black, thus teh raycissims. If you hear a muslim man screaming at the marathon or the airport do you act differently? Does that make you a bad person? Do you feel guilty? When did common sense and survival instinct and rational observation and pattern recognition become a vice? This shit . . . this exact shit . . . is how Sweden and Germany and Paris have become rape playgrounds and shooting ranges. |
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Post by johncfc on May 15, 2017 11:18:03 GMT -5
I don't think it is white privilege either. But, if it was a black girl on a quad with a sword I'm willing to bet the reaction would have been different. I could be wrong, but I don't think it would have been seen as cute. What if it was an asian girl? Is every-fucking-thing evidence of white privlidge because we're hell bent on cultural self loathing or is there a simpler explanation, like small cute women with unruly weapons aren't threatening, have no history of incidents, and wouldn't be terribly dangerous even if they tried to be. Whereas a guy walking around campus with a gun triggers (yeah, I said it) vivid memories of shootings, and fucking massacres, by young men at schools, so the reaction is visceral and strong. Or, you're an agenda blinded cunt and you only see that the girl is white and the guy was black, thus teh raycissims. If you hear a muslim man screaming at the marathon or the airport do you act differently? Does that make you a bad person? Do you feel guilty? When did common sense and survival instinct and rational observation and pattern recognition become a vice? This shit . . . this exact shit . . . is how Sweden and Germany and Paris have become rape playgrounds and shooting ranges. I think we all profile, often for good reason. I'm not exactly sure what this situation was, but closing a section of a school because a black guy is holding a glue gun sounds suspect. Now, I don't know the context, like whether or not the guy was using the gun as a prop, or whether or not he was innocently walking to class with it. Some more information would be good to have. Regardless, I think we agree that police and security need to be trained better and held accountable. Perhaps they reacted appropriately, but at the moment closing a school for 4 hours over a glue gun seems extreme. |
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Post by matt on May 15, 2017 12:18:54 GMT -5
Based on their population numbers in the US, blacks commit a disproportionately high amount of crime compared to whites.
And as a matter of fact, crime is actually sensationalized and celebrated in their cultrure...
watch a tupac music video for hard factual evidence of this :-]
As a side effect, people are much more wary of black people. Is that racism, or is that a natural bi-product of the culture?
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Post by Baph on May 15, 2017 12:30:50 GMT -5
What if it was an asian girl? Is every-fucking-thing evidence of white privlidge because we're hell bent on cultural self loathing or is there a simpler explanation, like small cute women with unruly weapons aren't threatening, have no history of incidents, and wouldn't be terribly dangerous even if they tried to be. Whereas a guy walking around campus with a gun triggers (yeah, I said it) vivid memories of shootings, and fucking massacres, by young men at schools, so the reaction is visceral and strong. Or, you're an agenda blinded cunt and you only see that the girl is white and the guy was black, thus teh raycissims. If you hear a muslim man screaming at the marathon or the airport do you act differently? Does that make you a bad person? Do you feel guilty? When did common sense and survival instinct and rational observation and pattern recognition become a vice? This shit . . . this exact shit . . . is how Sweden and Germany and Paris have become rape playgrounds and shooting ranges. I think we all profile, often for good reason. I'm not exactly sure what this situation was, but closing a section of a school because a black guy is holding a glue gun sounds suspect. Now, I don't know the context, like whether or not the guy was using the gun as a prop, or whether or not he was innocently walking to class with it. Some more information would be good to have. Regardless, I think we agree that police and security need to be trained better and held accountable. Perhaps they reacted appropriately, but at the moment closing a school for 4 hours over a glue gun seems extreme. Yes, we all profile. Our brain is fundamentally set up that way. We put things into categories. It's a processing power trick and it's also a survival tactic to recognize friend from foe at a distance, which is what kept humans alive for a couple hundred thousand years before social justice became a thing. The context is fucking obvious. This dude was walking around with a glue gun and someone saw it, thought it was a gun, and called the cops, who over-reacted in light of the school shooting epidemic we've had the past 10-15 years. His race had fuck-all to do with it. Calls cops "there's a guy with a gun on campus" Cops: Is he black or nah? Come the fuck on. Think through this for once second and don't fall for the virtue signaling tripe of this yuppie cunt. |
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Post by johncfc on May 15, 2017 12:39:46 GMT -5
I think we all profile, often for good reason. I'm not exactly sure what this situation was, but closing a section of a school because a black guy is holding a glue gun sounds suspect. Now, I don't know the context, like whether or not the guy was using the gun as a prop, or whether or not he was innocently walking to class with it. Some more information would be good to have. Regardless, I think we agree that police and security need to be trained better and held accountable. Perhaps they reacted appropriately, but at the moment closing a school for 4 hours over a glue gun seems extreme. Yes, we all profile. Our brain is fundamentally set up that way. We put things into categories. It's a processing power trick and it's also a survival tactic to recognize friend from foe at a distance, which is what kept humans alive for a couple hundred thousand years before social justice became a thing. The context is fucking obvious. This dude was walking around with a glue gun and someone saw it, thought it was a gun, and called the cops, who over-reacted in light of the school shooting epidemic we've had the past 10-15 years. His race had fuck-all to do with it. Calls cops "there's a guy with a gun on campus" Cops: Is he black or nah? Come the fuck on. Think through this for once second and don't fall for the virtue signaling tripe of this yuppie cunt. I hear ya, and I'm not falling for the white privilege power play. Where I potentially disagree with you is the black and white picture the SJW is painting and the one you are. She sees it as definite white privilege, and you see it more as gender/risk management. I'm somewhere in the middle. Do I think race came into play in this circumstance? I'm actually not sure. It very well might have sent the alarm bells ringing quicker because of race. Is that wrong? Probably. Is it understandable though? Probably. |
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Post by MMAJim on May 15, 2017 12:40:57 GMT -5
A high school in Green Bay was closed on May 4th because a parent called in a threat. Male wearing black cloak, something on his head, and carrying a black backpack entering a side door.
If you guessed a student wearing a Darth Vader costume on May the 4th Be With You Day, you are correct. I'd have to look the story up and see what color/gender the student was before I decide whether or not this was a racial event (and the color of the parent too I guess).
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 12:45:43 GMT -5
The Netherlands are having a clear problem with getting a grip on reality. Reality in the Netherlands: Their murder rate is climbing (ours is dropping). Number of incidents of rape, dramatically climbing. % of these crimes committed by immigrants (legal or otherwise) = 48% But when it comes to figuring out that maybe stemming the flow of these immigrants is a good idea? www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-government-idUSKCN18B25J?il=0--------------- I don't know why white men are such a target at this point. It seems a lot of them in Europe have completely lost their survival instinct. |
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Post by johncfc on May 15, 2017 12:58:15 GMT -5
A high school in Green Bay was closed on May 4th because a parent called in a threat. Male wearing black cloak, something on his head, and carrying a black backpack entering a side door. If you guessed a student wearing a Darth Vader costume on May the 4th Be With You Day, you are correct. I'd have to look the story up and see what color/gender the student was before I decide whether or not this was a racial event (and the color of the parent too I guess). Are sith a race? |
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Post by Baph on May 15, 2017 13:45:21 GMT -5
The Netherlands are having a clear problem with getting a grip on reality. Reality in the Netherlands: Their murder rate is climbing (ours is dropping). Number of incidents of rape, dramatically climbing. % of these crimes committed by immigrants (legal or otherwise) = 48% But when it comes to figuring out that maybe stemming the flow of these immigrants is a good idea? www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-government-idUSKCN18B25J?il=0--------------- I don't know why white men are such a target at this point. It seems a lot of them in Europe have completely lost their survival instinct. Another completely new problem they're facing -- massive debt and deficit. Apparently injecting a quarter-of-a-million 3rd world refugees into your cities who can't speak your language, have no discernible skill set, do not assimilate or contribute, and tend to be fairly segregated and violent, isn't super good on your city budget as it pertains to housing, hospitals, schools, and benefits. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 17:47:55 GMT -5
Wait. You mean that introducing several hundred thousand unemployed, low-skilled, low intelligence immigrants into a small country creates an economic drain?
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Post by slaytan on May 16, 2017 19:40:38 GMT -5
Regarding the decline of Europe: I think at least some can be laid at the feet of WW1 and 2. The brave, dynamic, noble genes were largely eradicated. "Unfit for service" was who reproduced, because the rest were busy. This happened in two consecutive generations.
re: France- WWII was also a French civil war. Half or more of the French civilians preferred Hitler to the alternative, and the two opposing political sides hated each other like SJWs hate "racists." In a four month period after the Allied invasion in 1944, more French killed French (all those nooooble and wonderful resistance movements controlled from Moscow by way of the OSS) than died at German hands throughout the entire war.
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