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Post by Anthony the caddy on Apr 8, 2017 16:42:56 GMT -5
Well thanks for letting us know the difference between the two President's gold game.
What makes me a troll? Just cause I have an anonymous screen name?
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy, thanks for jumping to the defense of your boy. Shows how big of a schill you are.
I'm sure your golf game is as good as your brown belt... Lol, that is trolling
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 16:45:39 GMT -5
Well thanks for letting us know the difference between the two President's gold game. What makes me a troll? Just cause I have an anonymous screen name? I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy, thanks for jumping to the defense of your boy. Shows how big of a schill you are. I'm sure your golf game is as good as your brown belt... Lol, that is trolling Shill.
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Post by Crackhead CyberCon on Apr 8, 2017 17:04:07 GMT -5
When all else faisk, attack grammar errors... Great way of knowing they can't deny the facts.
Truth is he talked a lot of shit about Obama and he is doing the same thing
Keep on puffing old man
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Post by SharkJumpDeathMetal on Apr 8, 2017 17:06:55 GMT -5
A once must-read poster who always displayed critical thinking has basically become a cheerleader. I guess that's what happens when the left forces one into partisan politics. Sad. How is applauding libertarianish opposition to Trump policies cheerleading? Trolling would be more effective if it made sense. Who am I cheerleading? This is my FOURTH major disagreement with Trump in as many months. That's not what cheerleaders do. Unfortunately, your disdain for the left has led you to be a cheerleader for the right (not necessarily Trump). There really isn't anything wrong with that, it's just quite noticeable in your posts now. In the post I quoted, you mention Milo and the Libertarians criticism of Trump. But, BUT, your point is that the left would never criticize their president and only the right have the integrity to do so. This is ridiculous and basically fake news. You're falling into the left vs. right trap. Sad. Do some light digging of dems criticizing Obama. It won't take any time, and you might even find the biggest Obama cheerleaders actually criticizing many of his policies. Finally, for the record, I found Obama to be a great reality star but not a great president.
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Post by Angelo on Apr 8, 2017 17:13:20 GMT -5
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Post by JROD on Apr 8, 2017 17:14:02 GMT -5
Just for the record, GB/GB2 (aka binary sarin) does not disperse agent when struck by a conventional munition. First, storage of the two components together would be retarded and defeats the purpose of a binary weapon- hence the fixed and mobile mixing apparatus found in Syria by OPCW in 2013. Second, the isopropyl alcohol component gets consumed in a big ball of flame when detonated prior to mixture. People who have any experience with nerve agents (and I have a modest amount) will tell you the Assad line does not hold water.
This was no strike on stationary chemical munitions that dispersed them into the populace as Russia is saying. This is intentional dispersion and a follow-on strike by Russia to cover up evidence.
I'm not a tin-foil kinda guy, but why would Assad do this now? He is or was winning against the rebels. Why take this step now?
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Post by slaytan on Apr 8, 2017 17:14:54 GMT -5
Someone should have told Trump. Trump spent a lot of time bashing Obama and his golf playing even went as far as to say he wouldn't do it. And what about Hannity, shouldn't he have known? I'm just pointing out his hypocrisy and aome of his folfollow Mildly ironic is that you're crying shill to a bunch of people who are ripping Trump. Maybe not as severely as you would like, but nobody seems to support this action. I just hope Trump knows better than me. I've believed that he fucked up before, and it turned out I was wrong and he was right (or lucky.) I hope he is either right or lucky here, too. Still, almost no matter what, I will never hate Trump with the primordial intensity that I hate Obama. No matter what blunders he commits. If he fucks us, I will see it as I would see someone who through gross negligence caused a fire which caused mass casualties. Certainly, I would define him by that blunder and heap scorn on him forever. But I see Obama like an arsonist. Apples to oranges
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Post by JROD on Apr 8, 2017 17:16:30 GMT -5
And where the fuck did all these troll accounts come from?
Regular members who are afraid to voice their own opinions and have to stand behind them?
Fucking window lickers, the lot of you...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 17:25:16 GMT -5
Well thanks for letting us know the difference between the two President's gold game. What makes me a troll? Just cause I have an anonymous screen name? I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy, thanks for jumping to the defense of your boy. Shows how big of a schill you are. I'm sure your golf game is as good as your brown belt... Lol, that is trolling You're not pointing out anything beyond simple shit that is entirely irrelevant, and are hiding like a bitch. So..you're a weak troll. You can google my golf game and my brown belt too, I don't much care what you accept or don't accept about me. But you're gonna have to try harder than pretending you know more about my life than you do if you want to "get me". But before you do that, try getting a clue about politics and the like. Because you clearly don't know much. Which explains why you hide.... Can a mod do their job here or what?
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Post by Not a troll on Apr 8, 2017 17:28:54 GMT -5
And where the fuck did all these troll accounts come from? Regular members who are afraid to voice their own opinions and have to stand behind them? Fucking window lickers, the lot of you... So it's the opinion that makes them trolls? Or just the anonymous aspect of it? Or is it, if a regular poster says something against the all mighty Trump, the circle jerk of Trump nutfleas will pretty much follow them into every thread belittling them? I don't think you are using the term troll correctly or just don't know what it means. Fucking mouthbreather
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Post by JROD on Apr 8, 2017 17:35:47 GMT -5
And where the fuck did all these troll accounts come from? Regular members who are afraid to voice their own opinions and have to stand behind them? Fucking window lickers, the lot of you... So it's the opinion that makes them trolls? Or just the anonymous aspect of it? Or is it, if a regular poster says something against the all mighty Trump, the circle jerk of Trump nutfleas will pretty much follow them into every thread belittling them? I don't think you are using the term troll correctly or just don't know what it means. Fucking mouthbreather I could care less who the fuckin president is at this point and am making no attempt to defend the bastard. Your reading comprehension is on the same plane as your grammar skill. Not the opinion that makes you a fucking troll, it's the anonymity you hide behind while spewing it. I stand behind my original assertion; window lickers, the fucking lot of you...
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Post by Not a troll on Apr 8, 2017 17:44:51 GMT -5
So it's the opinion that makes them trolls? Or just the anonymous aspect of it? Or is it, if a regular poster says something against the all mighty Trump, the circle jerk of Trump nutfleas will pretty much follow them into every thread belittling them? I don't think you are using the term troll correctly or just don't know what it means. Fucking mouthbreather I could care less who the fuckin president is at this point and am making no attempt to defend the bastard. Your reading comprehension is on the same plane as your grammar skill. Not the opinion that makes you a fucking troll, it's the anonymity you hide behind while spewing it. I stand behind my original assertion; window lickers, the fucking lot of you... so if I registered this screen name, I would cease to be a troll? I doubt it, you'd find other reasons to call me a troll. You're one of the most anonymous posters here. Does that make you part time troll? What info of mine do you actually need/want?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 17:57:23 GMT -5
Yes you are a troll. I've forgotten to log in a couple of times myself, and the amount of stuff that you've got to do just to post as a guest is a lot of effort. A lot more than just signing in. So you are obviously going to great lengths to hide, because you're scared to be real.
So mods....you gonna do your job?
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Post by JROD on Apr 8, 2017 18:06:05 GMT -5
I could care less who the fuckin president is at this point and am making no attempt to defend the bastard. Your reading comprehension is on the same plane as your grammar skill. Not the opinion that makes you a fucking troll, it's the anonymity you hide behind while spewing it. I stand behind my original assertion; window lickers, the fucking lot of you... so if I registered this screen name, I would cease to be a troll? I doubt it, you'd find other reasons to call me a troll. You're one of the most anonymous posters here. Does that make you part time troll? What info of mine do you actually need/want? No, I am afraid it would take more than registering your screen name to completely eliminate the troll moniker. Some solid reading comprehension combined with the ability to debate posters with facts as opposed to trolling each and every post not in agreement with your beta-liberal-cuck opinion of our current retard-in-chief would be an excellent place to start. I can recommend some institutions of higher learning that will hone your critical thinking skills to a socially acceptable level if you're interested? Dissent and disagreement is what makes this country what it is. I am not afraid of differing opinions, even those of the cuckhold type. Just show up to the dance with some opinions based in fact or experience and don't call out posters as "shills" for the Trump Train. I've yet to see any of those train passengers in this board. Big girl panties usually help when showing up to discuss opinions with adults.
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Post by Not a troll on Apr 8, 2017 18:25:15 GMT -5
What non facts have I posted?
I posted actual tweets and I get responses about my grammar. Tony golfing, knowing what Trump is doing on the golf course as opposed to Obama... Those are facts?
I posted things Trump said about Obama and that he does the exact same, facts. That's trolling?
I don't have an email address. Don't trust the government. This board gives us the option to post as guest, take it out with ol' Chopper
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 18:31:40 GMT -5
JROD-
Is it possible that the Isis fucks didn't know storing the two together is retarded?
I know nothing about the subject beyond the names of the chemicals.
Are you saying that if you blew up a chemical weapon with another external explosive that the Sarin wouldn't diffuse into the air like it did? Because that would kill the Russian explanation pretty dead if that's the case.
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Post by slaytan on Apr 8, 2017 18:38:28 GMT -5
JROD- Is it possible that the Isis fucks didn't know storing the two together is retarded? I know nothing about the subject beyond the names of the chemicals. Are you saying that if you blew up a chemical weapon with another external explosive that the Sarin wouldn't diffuse into the air like it did? Because that would kill the Russian explanation pretty dead if that's the case. Indeed, Trump should very confidently be able to ascertain whether the Russian story holds water or not. Which is why if it turns out that Russia's story is solid, its beyond a simple fuckup. It would mean something else is afoot. Potentially moles in military intelligence feeding Trump bad info? That's far fetched, I know, but the point, really, is that Trump should know with a high degree of certainty, what the truth is. jROD, if you would indulge us: I want t hear what your knee jerk reaction is to this. I won't hold you to it later
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Post by JROD on Apr 8, 2017 18:39:46 GMT -5
JROD- Is it possible that the Isis fucks didn't know storing the two together is retarded? I know nothing about the subject beyond the names of the chemicals. Are you saying that if you blew up a chemical weapon with another external explosive that the Sarin wouldn't diffuse into the air like it did? Because that would kill the Russian explanation pretty dead if that's the case. It was not ISIS storing the GB/GB2, but rather Assad/Putin. So they knew exactly how to properly store it. And no, it will not disperse with an external explosive, even if the dispersing agent is present. The heat from the external explosion would consume it. The Russian explanation is shit, but so is the American one. No way would Assad do this now when he is winning.
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Post by JROD on Apr 8, 2017 18:53:23 GMT -5
JROD- Is it possible that the Isis fucks didn't know storing the two together is retarded? I know nothing about the subject beyond the names of the chemicals. Are you saying that if you blew up a chemical weapon with another external explosive that the Sarin wouldn't diffuse into the air like it did? Because that would kill the Russian explanation pretty dead if that's the case. Indeed, Trump should very confidently be able to ascertain whether the Russian story holds water or not. Which is why if it turns out that Russia's story is solid, its beyond a simple fuckup. It would mean something else is afoot. Potentially moles in military intelligence feeding Trump bad info? That's far fetched, I know, but the point, really, is that Trump should know with a high degree of certainty, what the truth is. jROD, if you would indulge us: I want t hear what your knee jerk reaction is to this. I won't hold you to it later My knee-jerk reaction is as follows: The intelligence community is only loyal to themselves and their influence of power. Not to a president or administration. Trump has been extremely vocal about their ineptitude and corruption. They (the IC) don't take anything lying down. Hell, they took out a sitting president, orchestrated Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Syria and a whole hose of things that would make you puke. Option 1 - Trump was given bad intel, not on the Sarin bombing, but on the actual perpetrator(s). His hubris would not allow him to sit idly by and not be the "hero". Option 2 - OR, if Occums Razor is a reliable base, Assad thought Putin and Trump were in bed together and he could get away with it. Trump called his hand. I am not sure what I believe at the moment...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:09:35 GMT -5
Someone should have told Trump. Trump spent a lot of time bashing Obama and his golf playing even went as far as to say he wouldn't do it. And what about Hannity, shouldn't he have known? I'm just pointing out his hypocrisy and aome of his folfollow I believe most of trumps criticism of Obama about golf were when he skipped out on people dealing with tragedy like fires, flooding, hurricanes and tornadoes. I remember lots of criticism of gwb about his time spent in Texas. Anyone can easily govern effectively from a golf course... the important part is the president needs to be engaged to the issues. It was dumb for trump to criticize obamas golf if he was doing his job at the time
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Post by Premier on Apr 8, 2017 19:58:59 GMT -5
Most of the times Trump has come to Florida, he has hosted a foreign president. What's the big deal. He can run the country just as well from here.
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Post by Premier on Apr 8, 2017 20:01:44 GMT -5
Assad looks like such a nice guy. I think I read somewhere that he was a dentist. He fooled me. Doesn't look like a psycho mad man gassing his people. Yeah, he kind of does to me. There looks to be something lurking. You can see the "Dark passenger" in him.
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Post by Premier on Apr 8, 2017 20:09:52 GMT -5
So what's the general consensus of who is the guest account troll?
Is Alton still the main suspect?
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Post by Angelo on Apr 8, 2017 20:16:10 GMT -5
So what's the general consensus of who is the guest account troll? Is Alton still the main suspect? I'm leaning towards Toehold and JohnnyProphet's lovechild.
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Post by agrappleaday on Apr 8, 2017 20:20:32 GMT -5
Yeah, he kind of does to me. There looks to be something lurking. You can see the "Dark passenger" in him. The guy looks like a creeper to me.
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Post by Premier on Apr 8, 2017 21:35:46 GMT -5
So what's the general consensus of who is the guest account troll? Is Alton still the main suspect? I'm leaning towards Toehold and JohnnyProphet's lovechild. Toehold? Nah. Not his style.
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Post by slaytan on Apr 8, 2017 22:00:10 GMT -5
Asshat does has a very sweet, soft- featured face. Just like Hitler or Mao
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Post by mmaphreak on Apr 8, 2017 22:41:47 GMT -5
Indeed, Trump should very confidently be able to ascertain whether the Russian story holds water or not. Which is why if it turns out that Russia's story is solid, its beyond a simple fuckup. It would mean something else is afoot. Potentially moles in military intelligence feeding Trump bad info? That's far fetched, I know, but the point, really, is that Trump should know with a high degree of certainty, what the truth is. jROD, if you would indulge us: I want t hear what your knee jerk reaction is to this. I won't hold you to it later My knee-jerk reaction is as follows: The intelligence community is only loyal to themselves and their influence of power. Not to a president or administration. Trump has been extremely vocal about their ineptitude and corruption. They (the IC) don't take anything lying down. Hell, they took out a sitting president, orchestrated Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Syria and a whole hose of things that would make you puke. Option 1 - Trump was given bad intel, not on the Sarin bombing, but on the actual perpetrator(s). His hubris would not allow him to sit idly by and not be the "hero". Option 2 - OR, if Occums Razor is a reliable base, Assad thought Putin and Trump were in bed together and he could get away with it. Trump called his hand. I am not sure what I believe at the moment... with as much going on as there is, having only two choices is very limiting. too many moving pieces. my personal view has similarities to your #2. yes, by all accounts it appeared that assad has only strengthened his position in the last few months. so the question of "why now", i don't believe is as complex as the entire equation. assad knows he has the russians in his corner. he knows the west isn't interested in a full blown war in the region, especially with russia so closely tied to the situation. in his mind, maybe he's thinking that he wants to dip his toe in the water and see what the US/international reaction would be if he did use chem weapons, knowing it wouldn't be that severe with putin in his back pocket (or him in putin's back pocket). that's the low level reason. the higher level is that maybe assad wanted to force the US's hand. maybe he was willing to sacrifice that air field to get the russians to up their muscle in the region (further strengthening his position). with these middle east leaders, it's best not to try and critically think about their actions. most of them are bat shit crazy. american conspiracy theorists are the only ones crazier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 0:03:16 GMT -5
The intent of the US is to use military action to overthrow a leadership detrimental to the health and safety of its people. Yes, innocent people die during those actions.The intent of Assad using Serine gas on his people what to fuck them up and make sure they know they are peasants and under his thumb Surely you can see the difference and if your town was getting gassed by some dictator you would be okay with a foreign entity coming in and bombing the shit out of their military bases, collateral damage and all. where has this been said? there is no official statement that says these airstrikes were part of a comprehensive plan to remove assad. only time will tell if that is the case (as we would never come right out and say that which would piss off putin big time). i don't personally believe that was the point of these strikes. trump said the strikes were strictly in response to assad violating chemical weapons bans already in place. i hope that isn't the case and this isn't just a one and done pinpoint strike. i hope it is part of a comprehensive plan for the region. as baph said, this is a very complex issue. lots of factions, lots of territories, and lots of crazies. do you risk ousting assad only to have ISIS fill the power void (which would piss off putin/china/pretty much the rest of the world)? if the plan is to oust assad and have kurds assume power, it would almost undoubtedly involve troops on the ground (which i'm sure russia would have a huge problem with). support for that internationally and domestically would not be there. i don't know what the answer is, but i also know we can't just give the middle east to putin. i think/hope trump is starting to see that an isolationist ideology is simplistic and just not realistic. My reference was not specific to this one incident, rather to our intentions when we get involved in general. I am not for war and wish we would let all of these dune coons eradicate each other, however we do get involved when innocent people are being harmed. Assad uses force to stamp out any uprising that may threaten his power or control... and never has any intentions of using his assets to save helpless people. The anonymous poster was trying to compare the two on the same level which is an immaculate way to approach it
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Post by mmaphreak on Apr 9, 2017 0:38:29 GMT -5
where has this been said? there is no official statement that says these airstrikes were part of a comprehensive plan to remove assad. only time will tell if that is the case (as we would never come right out and say that which would piss off putin big time). i don't personally believe that was the point of these strikes. trump said the strikes were strictly in response to assad violating chemical weapons bans already in place. i hope that isn't the case and this isn't just a one and done pinpoint strike. i hope it is part of a comprehensive plan for the region. as baph said, this is a very complex issue. lots of factions, lots of territories, and lots of crazies. do you risk ousting assad only to have ISIS fill the power void (which would piss off putin/china/pretty much the rest of the world)? if the plan is to oust assad and have kurds assume power, it would almost undoubtedly involve troops on the ground (which i'm sure russia would have a huge problem with). support for that internationally and domestically would not be there. i don't know what the answer is, but i also know we can't just give the middle east to putin. i think/hope trump is starting to see that an isolationist ideology is simplistic and just not realistic. My reference was not specific to this one incident, rather to our intentions when we get involved in general. I am not for war and wish we would let all of these dune coons eradicate each other, however we do get involved when innocent people are being harmed.Assad uses force to stamp out any uprising that may threaten his power or control... and never has any intentions of using his assets to save helpless people. The anonymous poster was trying to compare the two on the same level which is an immaculate way to approach it assad killed thousands before this latest chemical attack and we had done nothing. i agree, if this were solely about the middle east and involved only middle eastern players, yeah, leave them to their own devices. 20, 30, 50 years ago, you could get away with that line of thinking. now? it's much more complex. russia's involvement in the region changes everything.
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