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Post by slaytan on Apr 5, 2017 18:35:50 GMT -5
For 15 years I believed they were true. Then I saw the picture of the accusers. Disgusting, despicable negresses. No masher is going to put the moves on those bitches.
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Post by adamg01 on Apr 5, 2017 19:21:12 GMT -5
For 15 years I believed they were true. Then I saw the picture of the accusers. Disgusting, despicable negresses. No masher is going to put the moves on those bitches. Most likely a money grab. It's going around Fox these days.
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Post by ToNoAvail on Apr 5, 2017 19:24:07 GMT -5
He probably called them "toots" a few times and they were flattered in the moment. Years later they're like "Hey! I was sexually harassed!".
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Post by ocmmafan on Apr 5, 2017 20:13:48 GMT -5
One of them was paid 9 million and it's a total of 13 million between 5 over the course of the last 15 years. For 9 million he they must have had some pretty damaging evidence.
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Post by jamesod on Apr 5, 2017 20:45:54 GMT -5
One of them was paid 9 million and it's a total of 13 million between 5 over the course of the last 15 years. For 9 million he they must have had some pretty damaging evidence. Seriously. These aren't the trump "victims." They didn't come out of the woodwork a decade or two later to make allegations and then disappear. You don't pay $9M for nothing.
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Post by boboplata on Apr 5, 2017 20:49:26 GMT -5
Negresses. LOL! The word Jewess also makes me laugh.
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Post by Baph on Apr 5, 2017 21:08:01 GMT -5
One of them was paid 9 million and it's a total of 13 million between 5 over the course of the last 15 years. For 9 million he they must have had some pretty damaging evidence. Seriously. These aren't the trump "victims." They didn't come out of the woodwork a decade or two later to make allegations and then disappear. You don't pay $9M for nothing. Um . . . what DO you pay NINE FUCKING MILLION for? I'll take a gang rape in the kiester for $9 mill. Getting pestered at work = winning the fucking lottery? Sounds a lot more like blackmail than anything else.
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Post by RapeyDeathMetal on Apr 5, 2017 22:25:38 GMT -5
Seriously. These aren't the trump "victims." They didn't come out of the woodwork a decade or two later to make allegations and then disappear. You don't pay $9M for nothing. Um . . . what DO you pay NINE FUCKING MILLION for? I'll take a gang rape in the kiester for $9 mill. Getting pestered at work = winning the fucking lottery? Sounds a lot more like blackmail than anything else. You pay 9 million to keep your brand alive and prevent yourself from civil charges that clearly would stick...because you are guilty. Hard to fool the Christian conservative right when...you're a rapist. Hard to tell everyone that the illegals and Mexicans are the problem when you yourself are the problem. Cmon. You know the answer. Why bother with the hypothetical?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 22:37:33 GMT -5
I don't know whether these claims are true or false.
I do know that I once "had" to pay a settlement for religious discrimination to a former employee who sued me because he was not able to attend his Jehovah Witness meetings. The reason he was not able to attend his meetings is he was fucking slow at his job and something that he should have had completed by 4:00 p.m. took him until 6:30 regularly.
After I fired him he sued me for $125k, and I came back and offered him $10k with the terms being he had 12 hours to accept or reject it. My lawyer fees were going to be at least $20k whether I won or lost, and if I lost (which I wouldn't have) I would have been forced to pay his lawyer.
As painful as it was to write the check, it was smart business financially. Maybe this is what happened to Fox with O reilly... maybe not, but extortion is very common and settling usually is the best option whether guilty or innocent.
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Post by Baph on Apr 5, 2017 22:40:10 GMT -5
I don't know whether these claims are true or false. I do know that I once "had" to pay a settlement for religious discrimination to a former employee who sued me because he was not able to attend his Jehovah Witness meetings. The reason he was not able to attend his meetings is he was fucking slow at his job and something that he should have had completed by 4:00 p.m. took him until 6:30 regularly. After I fired him he sued me for $125k, and I came back and offered him $10k with the terms being he had 12 hours to accept or reject it. My lawyer fees were going to be at least $20k whether I won or lost, and if I lost (which I wouldn't have) I would have been forced to pay his lawyer. As painful as it was to write the check, it was smart business financially. Maybe this is what happened to Fox with O reilly... maybe not, but extortion is very common and settling usually is the best option whether guilty or innocent. My mother was the regional HR director for a major energy company and I know for a fact that this sort of thing is pretty rampant. And people pay out, and pay big, to avoid the hassle or the bad PR, guilty or not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 22:53:42 GMT -5
I don't know whether these claims are true or false. I do know that I once "had" to pay a settlement for religious discrimination to a former employee who sued me because he was not able to attend his Jehovah Witness meetings. The reason he was not able to attend his meetings is he was fucking slow at his job and something that he should have had completed by 4:00 p.m. took him until 6:30 regularly. After I fired him he sued me for $125k, and I came back and offered him $10k with the terms being he had 12 hours to accept or reject it. My lawyer fees were going to be at least $20k whether I won or lost, and if I lost (which I wouldn't have) I would have been forced to pay his lawyer. As painful as it was to write the check, it was smart business financially. Maybe this is what happened to Fox with O reilly... maybe not, but extortion is very common and settling usually is the best option whether guilty or innocent. My mother was the regional HR director for a major energy company and I know for a fact that this sort of thing is pretty rampant. And people pay out, and pay big, to avoid the hassle or the bad PR, guilty or not. Yup... unfortunately its usually cheaper to pay and move on whether guilty or not. I have a friend who owns a construction supply company and had a lady sue him for sexual harassment. She claims the contractors that came in harassed her and ruined her life... only problem to her story was she dressed like a fucking prostitute and stripped at a club in San Francisco for about 18 months the previous job before she worked for him (no joke). So a stripper who dresses like a whore working the counter where contractors frequent is uncomfortable by the sexual attention she is getting. He paid her like $20k to make it go away.
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Post by Baph on Apr 5, 2017 22:58:06 GMT -5
My mother was the regional HR director for a major energy company and I know for a fact that this sort of thing is pretty rampant. And people pay out, and pay big, to avoid the hassle or the bad PR, guilty or not. Yup... unfortunately its usually cheaper to pay and move on whether guilty or not. I have a friend who owns a construction supply company and had a lady sue him for sexual harassment. She claims the contractors that came in harassed her and ruined her life... only problem to her story was she dressed like a fucking prostitute and stripped at a club in San Francisco for about 18 months the previous job before she worked for him (no joke). So a stripper who dresses like a whore working the counter where contractors frequent is uncomfortable by the sexual attention she is getting. He paid her like $20k to make it go away. I remember stories about people getting caught doing drugs in the bathroom while on the clock, getting fired, suing for racial discrimination, and walking away with two years salary because the company doesn't want to fuck with it. It's a tangent, and I can def see a creeper vibe from O'Reilly, but I also know we live in a litigation culture where jackpots and settlements for spilling hot coffee have warped the behaviors and motives of the general public.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:06:37 GMT -5
Yup... unfortunately its usually cheaper to pay and move on whether guilty or not. I have a friend who owns a construction supply company and had a lady sue him for sexual harassment. She claims the contractors that came in harassed her and ruined her life... only problem to her story was she dressed like a fucking prostitute and stripped at a club in San Francisco for about 18 months the previous job before she worked for him (no joke). So a stripper who dresses like a whore working the counter where contractors frequent is uncomfortable by the sexual attention she is getting. He paid her like $20k to make it go away. I remember stories about people getting caught doing drugs in the bathroom while on the clock, getting fired, suing for racial discrimination, and walking away with two years salary because the company doesn't want to fuck with it. It's a tangent, and I can def see a creeper vibe from O'Reilly, but I also know we live in a litigation culture where jackpots and settlements for spilling hot coffee have warped the behaviors and motives of the general public. I don't know if I see O Reilly as a creeper, but I could definitely see him as inappropriate and crude. That being said my whole point is a payout does not mean guilt or truth have been found.
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Post by Baph on Apr 5, 2017 23:16:11 GMT -5
I remember stories about people getting caught doing drugs in the bathroom while on the clock, getting fired, suing for racial discrimination, and walking away with two years salary because the company doesn't want to fuck with it. It's a tangent, and I can def see a creeper vibe from O'Reilly, but I also know we live in a litigation culture where jackpots and settlements for spilling hot coffee have warped the behaviors and motives of the general public. I don't know if I see O Reilly as a creeper, but I could definitely see him as inappropriate and crude. That being said my whole point is a payout does not mean guilt or truth have been found. We're on the same page. Creeper was probably the wrong word. But you know the type. Big shot, blunt, inappropriate, someone gets offended and throws a tantrum and threatens to go public and the company would go to considerable lengths to avoid the circus, because even if you win a case like that, you still lose.
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Post by Angelo on Apr 5, 2017 23:31:21 GMT -5
Those old videos floating around of O'Reilly pre-fox news. Along with people questioning even back in the mid 90s when he was hired for Fox News if it was smart to hire someone with his history. Along with the size and amount of settlements. There is a lot of smoke for there not to be a fire somewhere.
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Post by Baph on Apr 6, 2017 0:28:56 GMT -5
Those old videos floating around of O'Reilly pre-fox news. Along with people questioning even back in the mid 90s when he was hired for Fox News if it was smart to hire someone with his history. Along with the size and amount of settlements. There is a lot of smoke for there not to be a fire somewhere. There was a lot of smoke floating around at Connoco/Phillips and the only fire was the crack pipe in the employee bathroom, and people still got paid on the reg. Being a millionaire jackass with a billionaire boss tends to put you in a lot of crosshairs. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Apr 6, 2017 3:01:36 GMT -5
Who'd of thought that he enjoys dining in Harlem?
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Post by PatSox on Apr 6, 2017 8:27:20 GMT -5
9 mil? That's a lot of "No Spin Zone" floor mat and coffee mug profits down the tubes
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Post by jamesod on Apr 6, 2017 9:03:23 GMT -5
I don't know whether these claims are true or false. I do know that I once "had" to pay a settlement for religious discrimination to a former employee who sued me because he was not able to attend his Jehovah Witness meetings. The reason he was not able to attend his meetings is he was fucking slow at his job and something that he should have had completed by 4:00 p.m. took him until 6:30 regularly. After I fired him he sued me for $125k, and I came back and offered him $10k with the terms being he had 12 hours to accept or reject it. My lawyer fees were going to be at least $20k whether I won or lost, and if I lost (which I wouldn't have) I would have been forced to pay his lawyer. As painful as it was to write the check, it was smart business financially. Maybe this is what happened to Fox with O reilly... maybe not, but extortion is very common and settling usually is the best option whether guilty or innocent. I don't think either OC or I was implying "settlement=guilt/liable." I've advised many, many people/businesses to settle cases because it was financially prudent, not because they would have ultimately been found liable. $9M is the issue. If you had paid $9M rather than $10k to settle the religious discrimination suit my assumption would have been you'd done something wrong as well. It's only an assumption, but it's a pretty reasonable assumption.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 10:48:48 GMT -5
For 15 years I believed they were true. Then I saw the picture of the accusers. Disgusting, despicable negresses. No masher is going to put the moves on those bitches. Well, do any of 'em got a number or what?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 14:25:14 GMT -5
I don't know whether these claims are true or false. I do know that I once "had" to pay a settlement for religious discrimination to a former employee who sued me because he was not able to attend his Jehovah Witness meetings. The reason he was not able to attend his meetings is he was fucking slow at his job and something that he should have had completed by 4:00 p.m. took him until 6:30 regularly. After I fired him he sued me for $125k, and I came back and offered him $10k with the terms being he had 12 hours to accept or reject it. My lawyer fees were going to be at least $20k whether I won or lost, and if I lost (which I wouldn't have) I would have been forced to pay his lawyer. As painful as it was to write the check, it was smart business financially. Maybe this is what happened to Fox with O reilly... maybe not, but extortion is very common and settling usually is the best option whether guilty or innocent. I don't think either OC or I was implying "settlement=guilt/liable." I've advised many, many people/businesses to settle cases because it was financially prudent, not because they would have ultimately been found liable. $9M is the issue. If you had paid $9M rather than $10k to settle the religious discrimination suit my assumption would have been you'd done something wrong as well. It's only an assumption, but it's a pretty reasonable assumption. I would agree with you... however they just paid some other lady that worked there $20mm to settle a case against Roger Ailes. I am not going to pretend to know what a $9mm settlement means, other than that is only about 2 weeks worth of advertising on O Reily's show, so it's not a lot of money to FOX. I would say at face value I completely agree with you that you don't pay a person $9mm if it is a completely fabricated story... but maybe you do if Bill slapped some honey on the ass a few times and told her she looked fuckable. I do that to my wife every night and sometimes it actually works, and she hasn't sued me yet.
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Post by HUH on Apr 6, 2017 15:22:03 GMT -5
What is $20mm and $9mm?? Millimeters?
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Post by Angelo on Apr 6, 2017 17:48:44 GMT -5
What is $20mm and $9mm?? Millimeters? Did you ever attend school? MM indicates a Million.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 18:18:52 GMT -5
What is $20mm and $9mm?? Millimeters? Did you ever attend school? MM indicates a Million. True. But never let that distract you from the fact that The Undertaker threw Mankind off a 16 foot tall steel cage at Hell in a Cell in 1998.
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Post by elpollocombates on Apr 6, 2017 20:26:01 GMT -5
^^^^ hahaha.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 6:26:47 GMT -5
I remember stories about people getting caught doing drugs in the bathroom while on the clock, getting fired, suing for racial discrimination, and walking away with two years salary because the company doesn't want to fuck with it. It's a tangent, and I can def see a creeper vibe from O'Reilly, but I also know we live in a litigation culture where jackpots and settlements for spilling hot coffee have warped the behaviors and motives of the general public. I don't know if I see O Reilly as a creeper, but I could definitely see him as inappropriate and crude. That being said my whole point is a payout does not mean guilt or truth have been found. Yes and no. Take your story, for example. You would have been out at least 20k in lawyer's fees, so you paid 10k to make it go away. Compare that with the O'Reilly story: he paid between 9-13 million. That is NOT "go away" money. Hell, OJ had a dream team of lawyers for a case that lasted 2 years and he only paid 5 million.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 9:15:39 GMT -5
What is $20mm and $9mm?? Millimeters? Roman Numerals.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 9:27:55 GMT -5
I don't know if I see O Reilly as a creeper, but I could definitely see him as inappropriate and crude. That being said my whole point is a payout does not mean guilt or truth have been found. Yes and no. Take your story, for example. You would have been out at least 20k in lawyer's fees, so you paid 10k to make it go away. Compare that with the O'Reilly story: he paid between 9-13 million. That is NOT "go away" money. Hell, OJ had a dream team of lawyers for a case that lasted 2 years and he only paid 5 million. Unless she said she wanted $20mm and was willing to drag it out in court, then $9mm is go away money. I tend to agree with you and James that this seems way too high for their not to be some real truth to inappropriate behavior... but when you are talking about a multi billion dollar enterprise along with it's most famous and profitable face that they knew they could milk for another 20 years... I don't think it's that much money.
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Post by Baph on Apr 7, 2017 10:22:02 GMT -5
Also, in the world of media and ratings and public opinion on famous personalities, those numbers get distorted wildly because a public trial or scandal could damage the brand and cost the corporation a LOT more than $9 mill just in advertising dollars alone.
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Post by slaytan on Apr 7, 2017 10:29:05 GMT -5
The problem with sexual harassment is that you can be perfectly innocent and completely guilty at the same time. People get jocular and let their tongues wag and occasionally step on someone's toes.
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