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Post by peAk on Jan 3, 2017 21:57:05 GMT -5
Does a prime Gina Carano do well against Ronda?
I know there was a time when Ronda was running through people and a lot of people (myself included) thought Ronda would beat Gina.
Now that Ronda has been exposed 2X for her weaknesses, and the fact that Gina had some decent standup and TDD, do you think she would have done well against Ronda? Remember, this girl got full mount against Cyroid.
All that being said, and not that this would ever happen in a million years, but this would be a great time to make this fight.
Both got destroyed in their final fights and both have (somewhat) Hollywood careers. One could possibly go out on a high note.
What say you?
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Post by daywork on Jan 3, 2017 23:13:03 GMT -5
The new age Ronda that thinks she can strike, She gets beat
The 4 years ago Ronda who went out on one mission and that was to try and rip off an arm. She wins.
Ronda should've never left what brought her to the game.
LOL They will probably fight each other on a low budget movie.
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Post by boboplata on Jan 4, 2017 0:08:38 GMT -5
Carano doesnt really have the pop of a cyborg/amanda. She's like a poor woman's version of Holly, which is just a step above a taebo soccer mom. Ronda will close the distance, hip toss, armbar.
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Post by locogato11283 on Jan 4, 2017 0:25:37 GMT -5
Who fucking cares?
Why are you allowed to make posts?
Where's the management in this place?
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Post by peAk on Jan 4, 2017 7:53:10 GMT -5
Who fucking cares? Why are you allowed to make posts? Where's the management in this place? I knew you were going to give me shit as soon as I posted this
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Post by peAk on Jan 4, 2017 9:44:24 GMT -5
Carano doesnt really have the pop of a cyborg/amanda. She's like a poor woman's version of Holly, which is just a step above a taebo soccer mom. Ronda will close the distance, hip toss, armbar. ...but that was kind of my point.
What level of striker do you really need to beat Ronda? I think Gina's striking was better than most of the other girls Ronda beat. We know now that Ronda doesn't react well to being hit.
Not trying to say "Hey guys, Gina's great" .....more like, "Hey guys, Ronda crumbles pretty quickly from getting punched"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 11:49:07 GMT -5
I don't quite get why everyone in the world seem to know the right hand was going to come right down the pike....except Ronda.
I don't know if it's coaching or just nerves. Is she abandoning the game plan or is there not a proper one to begin with?
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Post by TheStorm on Jan 4, 2017 13:13:24 GMT -5
Carano doesnt really have the pop of a cyborg/amanda. She's like a poor woman's version of Holly, which is just a step above a taebo soccer mom. Ronda will close the distance, hip toss, armbar. ...but that was kind of my point.
What level of striker do you really need to beat Ronda? I think Gina's striking was better than most of the other girls Ronda beat. We know now that Ronda doesn't react well to being hit.
Not trying to say "Hey guys, Gina's great" .....more like, "Hey guys, Ronda crumbles pretty quickly from getting punched"
Well Betch or whatever her name was, was supposedly the one who was going to be too much for Ronda on the feet. So while Ronda isn't an awesome striker, it definitely takes someone with decent skill to beat her... obviously...
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Post by Fasthands25 on Jan 4, 2017 13:24:41 GMT -5
I don't quite get why everyone in the world seem to know the right hand was going to come right down the pike....except Ronda. I don't know if it's coaching or just nerves. Is she abandoning the game plan or is there not a proper one to begin with? Chances are she had a gameplan but Travis smacked her around enough to induce memory issues.
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Post by mmadoc on Jan 4, 2017 17:07:10 GMT -5
first caveat: Gina was in another weight class, and like Cyborg, did not make 145 easily, or often.
I worked ~ 4 of Strikeforce bouts. She was strong, but not quick, and I doubt she could have defended any of Ronda's take downs, and certainly not her subs. Gina was in the right place, right time, when women's mma was pretty primitive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 9:14:40 GMT -5
Who fucking cares? Why are you allowed to make posts? Where's the management in this place? I knew you were going to give me shit as soon as I posted this
He's obviously lacking any attention at home because he desperately seeks it here.
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Post by kennith on Jan 5, 2017 9:19:20 GMT -5
For me Ronda is no different than likes of Chuck, Randy, BJ & Hughes, she was a dominant champion but the sport has moved on and like the previous champions what works well for a while doesn't work for ever! She is still the greatest female fighter ever, she just haven't evolved with the sport and she's been left behind. She's a terrible sport but she dominated and achieved what she did because she was the best of her time at time!
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Post by peAk on Jan 5, 2017 9:54:32 GMT -5
I knew you were going to give me shit as soon as I posted this
He's obviously lacking any attention at home because he desperately seeks it here. And how is this?
Because I post threads in the MMA section? The MMA section was all but dead at weekly. Toft was about the only person creating threads and we know how that turned out. If you have some great ideas to keep the MMA section here going strong, by all means post some up. Last time I checked, you hadn't. You barely even post in the MMA section. I rarely post in the OD here and I am just trying to get people to talk about MMA. This makes me an attention whore?
I stand behind creating this thread. This thread was just to question Ronda's streak and if we gave her too much credit. I brought up Gina only to point out that her striking was better IMO than the other girls Ronda beat not named Amanda or Holly. It wasn't like I was trying to salvage Gina's career or make it seem better than it was.
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Jan 5, 2017 9:58:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that he was talking about Loco not you peAk
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Post by peAk on Jan 5, 2017 10:01:22 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that he was talking about Loco not you peAk oh...haha
If that's the case, sorry dual
I thought you were giving me crap like loco
I used to hate loco at weekly but realized that he's actually pretty funny and sarcastic
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 15:13:08 GMT -5
I don't quite get why everyone in the world seem to know the right hand was going to come right down the pike....except Ronda. I don't know if it's coaching or just nerves. Is she abandoning the game plan or is there not a proper one to begin with? Not sure how to gameplan avoiding a right hand, that is basic fundamentals, which she lacks. I can see gameplan nong against a kicker or a big hitter but you are right, she just froze and got tagged. I remember she got hit anf then tried to throw up a defense like it would help after the fact...
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Post by mmaphreak on Jan 5, 2017 15:42:18 GMT -5
I don't quite get why everyone in the world seem to know the right hand was going to come right down the pike....except Ronda. I don't know if it's coaching or just nerves. Is she abandoning the game plan or is there not a proper one to begin with? Not sure how to gameplan avoiding a right hand, that is basic fundamentals, which she lacks. I can see gameplan nong against a kicker or a big hitter but you are right, she just froze and got tagged. I remember she got hit anf then tried to throw up a defense like it would help after the fact...like this kid:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 16:20:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that he was talking about Loco not you peAk oh...haha
If that's the case, sorry dual
I thought you were giving me crap like loco
I used to hate loco at weekly but realized that he's actually pretty funny and sarcastic
Yeah, I was talking about Loco. And I only give him shit cuz he's a solid poster. Non-solid posters aren't really worth the effort, but we pretty much got rid of all of them (except Angelo) when we came here.
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Post by peAk on Jan 5, 2017 16:48:01 GMT -5
oh...haha
If that's the case, sorry dual
I thought you were giving me crap like loco
I used to hate loco at weekly but realized that he's actually pretty funny and sarcastic
Yeah, I was talking about Loco. And I only give him shit cuz he's a solid poster. Non-solid posters aren't really worth the effort, but we pretty much got rid of all of them (except Angelo) when we came here. My bad....i feel like I went all "Toehold" there for a second.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 17:00:02 GMT -5
I don't quite get why everyone in the world seem to know the right hand was going to come right down the pike....except Ronda. I don't know if it's coaching or just nerves. Is she abandoning the game plan or is there not a proper one to begin with? Not sure how to gameplan avoiding a right hand, that is basic fundamentals, which she lacks. I can see gameplan nong against a kicker or a big hitter but you are right, she just froze and got tagged. I remember she got hit anf then tried to throw up a defense like it would help after the fact... For starters, looking like you are expecting it to come. Because everyfuckingone else sure knew it was coming. I was thinking she should have been working the double leg or single leg entries, if not just to get into a clinch and close the distance. Anything but trading with the gal. Easy to armchair qb it though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 17:01:38 GMT -5
...but that was kind of my point.
What level of striker do you really need to beat Ronda? I think Gina's striking was better than most of the other girls Ronda beat. We know now that Ronda doesn't react well to being hit.
Not trying to say "Hey guys, Gina's great" .....more like, "Hey guys, Ronda crumbles pretty quickly from getting punched"
Well Betch or whatever her name was, was supposedly the one who was going to be too much for Ronda on the feet. So while Ronda isn't an awesome striker, it definitely takes someone with decent skill to beat her... obviously... Betch had trex arms though and wasn't very technical, she was just throwing those dogs
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Post by adamg01 on Jan 5, 2017 17:21:58 GMT -5
first caveat: Gina was in another weight class, and like Cyborg, did not make 145 easily, or often. I worked ~ 4 of Strikeforce bouts. She was strong, but not quick, and I doubt she could have defended any of Ronda's take downs, and certainly not her subs. Gina was in the right place, right time, when women's mma was pretty primitive. The voice of reason.
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Post by TheStorm on Jan 5, 2017 17:26:06 GMT -5
oh...haha
If that's the case, sorry dual
I thought you were giving me crap like loco
I used to hate loco at weekly but realized that he's actually pretty funny and sarcastic
Yeah, I was talking about Loco. And I only give him shit cuz he's a solid poster. Non-solid posters aren't really worth the effort, but we pretty much got rid of all of them (except Angelo) when we came here. Solid poster, really? I can't help but think that every single thing he posts is to go against the grain and get a rise out of someone and not his actual opinion.. in other words a troll.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 6:41:44 GMT -5
Not sure how to gameplan avoiding a right hand, that is basic fundamentals, which she lacks. I can see gameplan nong against a kicker or a big hitter but you are right, she just froze and got tagged. I remember she got hit anf then tried to throw up a defense like it would help after the fact... For starters, looking like you are expecting it to come. Because everyfuckingone else sure knew it was coming. I was thinking she should have been working the double leg or single leg entries, if not just to get into a clinch and close the distance. Anything but trading with the gal. Easy to armchair qb it though. I agree with you. My point should have been more clear, I think avoiding a straight right is amateur level boxing that Ronda should know and shouldn't need a gameplan based around it. Now if Nunes was throwing H-bombs them circling away from power, not moving straight back, and cutting angles would be part of the plan. However, the girl stood there stunned like, uh.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 6:42:51 GMT -5
Not sure how to gameplan avoiding a right hand, that is basic fundamentals, which she lacks. I can see gameplan nong against a kicker or a big hitter but you are right, she just froze and got tagged. I remember she got hit anf then tried to throw up a defense like it would help after the fact...like this kid: Hahahahhaha!!!! AWESOME. Yes,.exactly like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 8:18:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I was talking about Loco. And I only give him shit cuz he's a solid poster. Non-solid posters aren't really worth the effort, but we pretty much got rid of all of them (except Angelo) when we came here. Solid poster, really? I can't help but think that every single thing he posts is to go against the grain and get a rise out of someone and not his actual opinion.. in other words a troll. Every board needs a couple. And since Garth has gone old folks home on us, the position was open.
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Post by locogato11283 on Jan 6, 2017 13:43:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I was talking about Loco. And I only give him shit cuz he's a solid poster. Non-solid posters aren't really worth the effort, but we pretty much got rid of all of them (except Angelo) when we came here. Solid poster, really? I can't help but think that every single thing he posts is to go against the grain and get a rise out of someone and not his actual opinion.. in other words a troll. What's sad is that even my troll posts are more informative than anything you've ever posted, because in every single post there's some hint of truth. What I like is that there are only a handful of people smart enough to see it. You're obviously not one of them.
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