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Post by peAk on Dec 19, 2016 13:59:42 GMT -5
If/when they set this fight up, do you see Michelle posing any problems for Joanna?
I think Waterson could be a bad matchup for Joanna. Kicks all day to keep Joanna out of range and not worried about it hitting the mat....?
Not sure she has the cardio for Joanna though.
What do you guys think?
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Post by ocmmafan on Dec 19, 2016 14:30:08 GMT -5
Waterson may have the style to compete with Joanna since she's fast and can strike, but Joanna hits harder. I thought Waterson struggled too much with Angela Magana and she almost finished by her, so it left me wondering how she will hold up with some of these great 115ers. She smoked Paige and that's testimony to her skills, but Joanna's on another level, IMO. I thought the way Paige out muscled Felice Herrig would happen again with Michelle but it obviously didn't.
I want to see Michelle's next opponent be Rose, Carla, Tecia Torres or someone in the top 5-10. Rose vs Michelle would be a great card headliner. I think Rose may be too big for her though and dominate her with grappling, but Michelle does have better ground than she is given credit for. I think she's a blue belt but her BJJ is solid.
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 14:38:07 GMT -5
She will give Joanna a good fight. But Joanna is on another level man. Could get interesting if it hits the ground. Which I hope it does. I want to see J get tested. According to fight metrics Joanna got an 81.8 % takedown defense. But HOLY SHIT, Waterson has 100% takedown accuracy! Looking at fight metrics for both gals, surpringly Waterson has better stats that Joanna. So i might have to eat my words that Joanna is on another level Waterson: www.fightmetric.com:8081/fighters/detail/1347/Jędrzejczyk: www.fightmetric.com:8081/fighters/detail/2280/
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 14:44:11 GMT -5
but Joanna's on another level, IMO. I replied before seeing your post. Funny we said the same thing. That is definitely the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about this fight. Joanna is on another level.
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 14:45:23 GMT -5
Take a look at those stats OC. Let me know if they mean much to you when it comes to their match up.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 19, 2016 14:59:22 GMT -5
Rose Thug called out Waterson today so there's a good chance we see them fight next. Both are black belts in Karate and very skilled on the ground.
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Post by peAk on Dec 19, 2016 15:12:06 GMT -5
you guys don't think they leap frog Michelle to a title fight?
Claudia, Rose, Karolina and Carla already lost to Joanna
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 19, 2016 15:43:15 GMT -5
you guys don't think they leap frog Michelle to a title fight? Claudia, Rose, Karolina and Carla already lost to Joanna I think they give her one more before a title shot. This was her first UFC fight other than the TUF finale...
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Post by peAk on Dec 19, 2016 15:48:29 GMT -5
you guys don't think they leap frog Michelle to a title fight? Claudia, Rose, Karolina and Carla already lost to Joanna I think they give her one more before a title shot. This was her first UFC fight other than the TUF finale... just not sure who they have to fight for the title unless they do a rematch.
Tecia or Calderwood, I guess.
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 16:22:33 GMT -5
you guys don't think they leap frog Michelle to a title fight? Claudia, Rose, Karolina and Carla already lost to Joanna I'm inclined to say let's give Michelle another fight to promote her. But yeah, that leaves no one else to fight. Unless they go with someone outside of the top 5.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 19, 2016 16:51:28 GMT -5
She can't stand and trade with Joanna.
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 17:29:20 GMT -5
She can't stand and trade with Joanna. That's how I feel. But that still leaves us with Joanna having no one to fight.
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Post by ocmmafan on Dec 19, 2016 18:49:16 GMT -5
Take a look at those stats OC. Let me know if they mean much to you when it comes to their match up. damn - she's solid. But I would still take JJ. Rose vs Karate Hottie is a bad ass fight though so hope they book that.
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Post by peAk on Dec 19, 2016 19:00:26 GMT -5
Take a look at those stats OC. Let me know if they mean much to you when it comes to their match up. damn - she's solid. But I would still take JJ. Rose vs Karate Hottie is a bad ass fight though so hope they book that.
If you do that fight (which is a good fight by the way), who do you have Joanna fight?
Rematch or ?
I don't see any women currently that's going to out strike JJ. I would like to see JJ have to deal with kicks. I can't think of a fighter she's faced that has kicks like Waterson.
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Post by ocmmafan on Dec 19, 2016 19:12:15 GMT -5
damn - she's solid. But I would still take JJ. Rose vs Karate Hottie is a bad ass fight though so hope they book that.
If you do that fight (which is a good fight by the way), who do you have Joanna fight?
Rematch or ?
I don't see any women currently that's going to out strike JJ. I would like to see JJ have to deal with kicks. I can't think of a fighter she's faced that has kicks like Waterson.
Lets not forget her slick jitz
Maybe Jessica Andrade since she has a 3 fight win streak and the grappling chops to make it a good fight? I know, there is basically no one. But if they give her Jessica and let Rose fight Michelle, they have their next opponent after Jessica. But not sure what to do with Karolina unless she fights Claudia?
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 19, 2016 19:54:38 GMT -5
I know shit about this girl. Has she fought Rose?
If not, I think Rose beats her.
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Dec 19, 2016 19:59:34 GMT -5
Michelle is the real deal and is going to surprise a lot of folks. I've been on her bandwagon for quite some time.
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Post by ToNoAvail on Dec 19, 2016 20:18:15 GMT -5
I think it will be a great fight.
Has a Cyborg vs Carano matchup vibe to it.
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 20:28:25 GMT -5
damn - she's solid. But I would still take JJ. Rose vs Karate Hottie is a bad ass fight though so hope they book that.
If you do that fight (which is a good fight by the way), who do you have Joanna fight?
Rematch or ?
I don't see any women currently that's going to out strike JJ. I would like to see JJ have to deal with kicks. I can't think of a fighter she's faced that has kicks like Waterson.
That first gif was an illegal move. She kicked her in the face while down before applying the armbar
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Post by Premier on Dec 19, 2016 20:30:03 GMT -5
But looking at those other gifs....yeah, she's a beast.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 2:33:18 GMT -5
you guys don't think they leap frog Michelle to a title fight? Claudia, Rose, Karolina and Carla already lost to Joanna Rose and Joanna fought? I can't recall that one for some reason.
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Post by peAk on Dec 20, 2016 9:09:04 GMT -5
you guys don't think they leap frog Michelle to a title fight? Claudia, Rose, Karolina and Carla already lost to Joanna Rose and Joanna fought? I can't recall that one for some reason. oh damn, my bad. She fought Karolina, the other polish girl, and got her butt kicked. So I could imagine what JJ would have done to her. I like Rose though.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 20, 2016 12:37:58 GMT -5
Maybe Joanna takes some time off, they let Michelle fight Rose, and winner gets the next shot early summer 2017?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 12:56:06 GMT -5
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