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Post by slaytan on Dec 19, 2016 5:37:42 GMT -5
The government ruins everything... ...aaaand yet he's a dumbocrat who loves Obamacare!
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Post by CHOPPEDnSCREWED on Dec 20, 2016 8:21:17 GMT -5
^^^boom
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2016 12:34:42 GMT -5
Haha, hypocrites gonna hypocrite...^^^
On topic of the death penalty...I'm pro death.
Preponderance of undeniable evidence?
Multiple victims?
Strong likelihood to offend and victimize again?
Check check check? Ice em.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 15:53:26 GMT -5
I'd say it's pretty likely this guy is getting his lethal-injection ticket punched early next year when his penalty phase proceeds.
No doubt the defense will try to break the jury's hearts with a lot of sob-story nonsense. But there's no mental illness, no remorse and absolutely NO credible claim of any actual grievances against the victims or ANY other blacks, so that leaves him with NOTHING even remotely resembling an excuse.
Another quick, unanimous vote hopefully.
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Dec 20, 2016 16:04:37 GMT -5
I think kratom is overrated. I remember when it started gaining steam, it would be at all the counter culture trade shows, samples from every seller at multiple strengths. I remember eating so much of it once it just made me throw up. Never tried it again.
Want to hear some other fucked up shit. The DEA is banning CBDs. Talk about big pharma stepping in.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Dec 20, 2016 16:11:54 GMT -5
put him in the yard.....film at 11....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 17:56:57 GMT -5
I think kratom is overrated. I remember when it started gaining steam, it would be at all the counter culture trade shows, samples from every seller at multiple strengths. I remember eating so much of it once it just made me throw up. Never tried it again. Want to hear some other fucked up shit. The DEA is banning CBDs. Talk about big pharma stepping in. Banning CBDs? Really? They have been around for a long time.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 20, 2016 18:19:56 GMT -5
Want to hear some other fucked up shit. The DEA is banning CBDs. Talk about big pharma stepping in. Yeah they really want to get that growing PTSD market and high CBD:THC ratio marijuana is right now the best thing they've found for it. I'm guessing that there have been some smaller companies or people that aren't part of big pharma that are discovering it is more related to the CBD amount rather than the ratio and finding ways to develop a drug that people could make at home rendering a ton of future sales worthless. As for not wanting the death penalty, it has to do with the punishment itself being a slippery slope. If we accept the death penalty as a valid punishment, then it can be applied to other crimes. And what is a crime? It is whatever the prevailing winds of the politicians want it to be at the time, and it could be legal the next day. Hell even the way the espionage laws work today means you could be put to death for sharing medical research with another colleague if they are connected to the wrong group of people. Look at other countries where they put people to death for disagreement with the prevailing administration, hell half the forum here or more would have been killed over the last 8 years. No, I think the death penalty should be flat out not an option under our constitution to protect us against totalitarianism entrenching itself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 1:09:30 GMT -5
I think kratom is overrated. I remember when it started gaining steam, it would be at all the counter culture trade shows, samples from every seller at multiple strengths. I remember eating so much of it once it just made me throw up. Never tried it again. Want to hear some other fucked up shit. The DEA is banning CBDs. Talk about big pharma stepping in. Everyone has their own tastes in drugs as well as other stuff. I like it better than weed personally. Also, I believe you got good stuff, but the internet is usually where it's at for the strong stuff as headshops usually sell bunk. Everyone reacts to drugs differently. And yeah, that's super fucked up about CBD. I mean it's pure medicine that doesn't even get you high. I fucking hate the DEA. I think they just ban drugs to keep their pointless and destructive jobs relevant. But they can't ban it where weed is already legal/decriminalized right? Like Colorado, Washington, etc? And if not, well, whenever and wherever weed becomes legal/decriminalized with it, so will CBDs.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 2:01:09 GMT -5
But they can't ban it where weed is already legal/decriminalized right? Like Colorado, Washington, etc? And if not, well, whenever and wherever weed becomes legal/decriminalized with it, so will CBDs. They can, they do, they just can't ban medical production/use of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 2:03:15 GMT -5
But they can't ban it where weed is already legal/decriminalized right? Like Colorado, Washington, etc? And if not, well, whenever and wherever weed becomes legal/decriminalized with it, so will CBDs. They can, they do, they just can't ban medical production/use of it. But CBD is also in weed...so if recreational weed is legal in Colorado, and it has CBD in it, how can they make pure CBD illegal in Colorado at the same time?? I mean isn't that kind of like saying you are in a state where Excedrin is legal, but it contains caffeine and Tylenol, but pure Tylenol is banned?? (just a comparison) I don't get how that is really possible...
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 2:16:01 GMT -5
They can, they do, they just can't ban medical production/use of it. But CBD is also in weed...so if recreational weed is legal in Colorado, and it has CBD in it, how can they make pure CBD illegal in Colorado at the same time?? I mean isn't that kind of like saying you are in a state where Excedrin is legal, but it contains caffeine and Tylenol, but pure Tylenol is banned?? (just a comparison) I don't get how that is really possible... Because recreational weed is illegal in Colorado under federal law already.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 2:18:42 GMT -5
But CBD is also in weed...so if recreational weed is legal in Colorado, and it has CBD in it, how can they make pure CBD illegal in Colorado at the same time?? I mean isn't that kind of like saying you are in a state where Excedrin is legal, but it contains caffeine and Tylenol, but pure Tylenol is banned?? (just a comparison) I don't get how that is really possible... Because recreational weed is illegal in Colorado under federal law already. Federally, right...but you can still go buy it Colorado legally can't you? I am confused. I know it's federally illegal everywhere, but in terms of state legal to purchase in Colorado, Washington, Cali....I still don't understand. Aren't there coffee shops in Colorado like Amsterdam where you can walk in and just get high for fun?? Or am I wrong about that? I've been to Amsterdam (like just about everyone has at this point...) and just assumed these states were the same.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 2:22:07 GMT -5
Because recreational weed is illegal in Colorado under federal law already. Federally, right...but you can still go buy it Colorado legally can't you? I am confused. I know it's federally illegal everywhere, but in terms of state legal to purchase in Colorado, Washington, Cali....I still don't understand. No, if you buy it, or grow it in Colorado for anything other than medical reasons with medical licenses, federal authorities can arrest you. Now, the Feds have taken so far (for the most part) a hands-off approach where they said we won't enforce that federal law within the state borders, but it is still technically illegal and they can (and at times do) still enforce it. At first they did arrest, seize and what not for a quick dose of money and muscle flexing. Now however for the most part they only do that if they want to bust someone on something else or squeeze them for information on some other crime.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 2:25:23 GMT -5
But...aren't there still stores you can to in Colorado to buy weed without a medical card?
Or is it just that it's like RIDICULOUSLY easy to get that medical card so almost anyone can still get weed?
IF that's the case, well, why can't people still get a med card for their "ADD" LOL, and go buy some CBD?
Afterall, the only people that will want pure CBD are the people that are truly sick as it won't get you high, so what they are doing would be pointless then right?
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 2:31:09 GMT -5
But...aren't there still stores you can to in Colorado to buy weed without a medical card? Or is it just that it's like RIDICULOUSLY easy to get that medical card so almost anyone can still get weed? IF that's the case, well, why can't people still get a med card for their "ADD" LOL, and go buy some CBD? Afterall, the only people that will want pure CBD are the people that are truly sick as it won't get you high, so what they are doing would be pointless then right? Okay recreational (and I think medical) are both legal in Colorado. So, you can buy anywhere you want pretty much legally under STATE law for any purpose. HOWEVER, if you are buying non-medical or buying non-medical without a license, while legal in Colorado, it is illegal under Federal law. As for the CBD distinction, I don't know how the DEA is restricting it. It is entirely possible that the way they restrict CBD would allow the feds to bypass Rohrabacher–Farr for high CBD strains of marijuana, but I have the feeling they are aiming for non-weed products high in CBD that are competing with products in big-pharma. Rohrabacher–Farr does not cover CBD non-marijuana products meaning even with medical license, feds can come after you for those.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 2:36:04 GMT -5
^^^
Yeah, it sounds like a weird grey area and I'm wondering how they will pull that off.
I just don't get how they will do it it at all in states where weed is legal.
There's got to be something we aren't understanding, because obviously every strain of weed has CBD in it.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that they will only be making CBD illegal in states where weed ISN'T already legal like Colorado as that just makes WAY more sense, and maybe TECHNICALLY on a federal level but where you can still pull it off in legal states like regular weed.
Because I have seen some online sources selling CBD lately and wondered how it was legal, and so I guess the DEA jumped on that quickly cause there was some loophole cause it can't get you high.
I am going to doubt they will really be easily able to arrest people for CBD in states where weed is legal under state law.
They are probably mainly going after that loophole in all the other states I'm thinking.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 2:40:24 GMT -5
^^^ Yeah, it sounds like a weird grey area and I'm wondering how they will pull that off. I just don't get how they will do it it at all. There's got to be something we aren't understanding, because obviously every strain of weed has CBD in it. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that they will only be making CBD illegal in states where weed ISN'T already legal like Colorado as that just makes WAY more sense. Because I have seen some online sources selling CBD lately and wondered how it was legal, and so I guess the DEA jumped on that quickly cause there was some loophole cause it can't get you high. I am going to doubt they will really be easily able to arrest people for CBD in states where weed is legal under state law. They are probably mainly going after that loophole in all the other states I'm thinking. Well the weed would basically be grandfathered in likely, if you consider past precedent, so the only thing that will be affected are non-weed CBD products. I think the only weed-related market that may wind up in a grey area that screws them over is the edible market. Here is the thing though, and actually my 2nd biggest gripe about Obama behind his love of drones.... He could still, right now, till his final day in office, legalize marijuana across all 50 states regardless of Congress because of the way the restrictions came about. No way in hell congress would be organized enough and agree on enough concessions to pass laws making it full-blown illegal on the federal level if he did that. He doesn't though, why??? Because the people who funded his campaign and are funding his post-presidency activities, don't want it legal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 2:44:39 GMT -5
Confused about your first part...
But, yeah, I am still thinking this is to go after the people selling CBD to states where weed is illegal, because THC was really probably what the laws were for before.
And well, yeah, no politician in the U.S. from any party has the balls to try to make weed fully legal.
I think Bernie would have tried, he said he would, but might have gone back on it, but no one else will.
They are too afraid of it hurting their popularity, which makes no sense since Obama is leaving office, he shouldn't give a shit anymore, but it's just the way every politician is I guess, right, funded by people who won't support it.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 21, 2016 2:59:10 GMT -5
Confused about your first part... But, yeah, I am still thinking this is to go after the people selling CBD to states where weed is illegal, because THC was really probably what the laws were for before. And well, yeah, no politician in the U.S. from any party has the balls to try to make weed fully legal. I think Bernie would have tried, he said he would, but might have gone back on it, but no one else will. They are too afraid of it hurting their popularity, which makes no sense since Obama is leaving office, he shouldn't give a shit anymore, but it's just the way every politician is I guess, right, funded by people who won't support it. Okay, because CBD is in weed, but medical weed is protected under federal law, medical weed will remain protected regardless of CBD. The law overrides the DEA's regulations. What is gonna be questionable is edibles though because of the process. Bernie wouldn't have because of his wife. He plays the part of grandpa but lives a very rich life, much in thanks to her. Obama gives a shit because he still has a life to live and doesn't want to be shunned and jobless. He only gets a pension of about 190k/yr, which while is great for a normal person, he lives his life well and above that. And Republicans since the initial restrictions have been trying to make legal again, they were the ones that opposed in the first place. It was Democrat tobacco farmers that got it made illegal in the first place (spending fuckoads of money not seen since Oil companies in the 90s-00s).
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Dec 22, 2016 13:01:15 GMT -5
Not all CBD comes from marijuana... In order for them to sell it in states that weed is illegal. CBD is extracted from hemp.
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Post by Angelo on Dec 22, 2016 13:42:15 GMT -5
Also the DEA isn't actually making CBD oil illegal, it was already illegal, they just are giving a new internal code to cannabis extracts.
While this is bad in the way that it could down the line be used as a fast and easy way to make all sorts of things more restrictive, it could also be used as a fast and easy way to make related things legal actually. Now given that this was done under Obama's direction, chances are they are looking to lock down more restrictions in the future though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 18:06:29 GMT -5
The jury says DEATH for Dylan Roof!
Undoubtedly the correct decision in my opinion...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 20:18:16 GMT -5
Get this fuck out of here. Glad they made this call.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Jan 10, 2017 22:04:32 GMT -5
I'm for the death penalty for the most heinous of crimes. Fucker deserves it.
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Post by Baph on Jan 12, 2017 1:23:36 GMT -5
He's just a kid that had bad home training. I say we give him a 2nd chance.
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Post by Angelo on Jan 12, 2017 1:53:47 GMT -5
He's just a kid that had bad home training. I say we give him a 2nd chance. Ahhh so Baph is Don Lemon all along.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jan 12, 2017 3:45:07 GMT -5
Feed this fucker his own dick for his last meal. Color don't matter here, these were just decent folks doing decent folk things.
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