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Post by clubman on Nov 17, 2016 11:42:26 GMT -5
Woodley wants that fight vs a rematch with wonderboy. Do it! PPV numbers would crack 2 million
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Post by Fasthands25 on Nov 17, 2016 13:05:53 GMT -5
DA TRIPLE CHAMP DOOOOS WHATEVA DA FOOK HE WANTS!!!!
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Post by ocmmafan on Nov 17, 2016 15:09:24 GMT -5
Not a good fight for Conor.
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Post by purerockfury on Nov 17, 2016 15:23:53 GMT -5
I really hope they don't do this. Both divisions are stacked. If they want a true money fight then have GSP come back and fight Conor at 165 or 170. I think that fight has a chance of doing 2 mil ppv buys.
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Post by gonzo on Nov 17, 2016 15:33:18 GMT -5
I am a Connor hater, but after the way he handled Alvarez and as bad and afraid as Woodley looked against Wonderboy, I think Connor can take this. Woodley would need to throw caution to the wind and risk getting hit with the left and rush him and take him down. Otherwise Connor backs him up and picks his shots.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 17, 2016 16:09:32 GMT -5
Woodley is bigger and stronger than pretty much anyone Conor has fought.
It's a bad matchup for him for sure.
Woodley wasn't afraid of Robbie's bombs.
I'm guessing Conor's wouldn't phase him.
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Post by kennith on Nov 18, 2016 7:59:17 GMT -5
DA TRIPLE CHAMP DOOOOS WHATEVA DA FOOK HE WANTS!!!! Cracks me up when ever you post this! I read it in his accent! hahahaha
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Post by kennith on Nov 18, 2016 8:10:54 GMT -5
I'd have to back Woodley on this one, can see Woodley taking Connors best shots and still come forward, T-wood is just to big, a monster WW and a decent chin!
I'd back Tyrone by a nasty KO in this but wouldnt surprise me if he just turned up for the cash and handed the belt over because he's more focused on that huge Connor money than the belt!
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Post by clubman on Nov 18, 2016 9:22:59 GMT -5
i think conor takes this. woodley wouldnt come out and just say hed smash conor when the reporters asked him twice if conor was talking about his belt when he said those belts are all his. hes scared of him. and that is all conor needs. that aldo and alvarez fear that cripples a great champion. conor takes this one as well.
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Post by clubman on Nov 18, 2016 9:24:48 GMT -5
to be honest, i think he easily takes GSP as well. GSP ha been different since matt serra and doesnt want to be cracked. conor would eat that fear up and crash him to the canvas. Nate Diaz gave zero fucks. thats how you beat conor. Go in there with zero fucks
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Post by kennith on Nov 18, 2016 10:11:00 GMT -5
to be honest, i think he easily takes GSP as well. GSP ha been different since matt serra and doesnt want to be cracked. conor would eat that fear up and crash him to the canvas. Nate Diaz gave zero fucks. thats how you beat conor. Go in there with zero fucks I think a GSP style fighter is the best bet to beat Connor! I rate CM, he's proved me wrong far to many times for me not to rate him, I've bet against him twice in 3 fights and only got money on the first Diaz fight! I'd back him against anyone at 145, but 155 i think there are a few guys who can take him, Alvarez who I rate was in a false position as champion IMO but Kahid is the one guy I'd confidently put money on to beat CM right now and GSP the other if he went up to 170!
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 18, 2016 10:42:30 GMT -5
GSP would easily take Conor down and control him on the ground.
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Post by clubman on Nov 18, 2016 13:25:06 GMT -5
you think after this long layoff, GSP would come back and put everyone to sleep like that? I think he would feel pressure to give people a show and get caught
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 18, 2016 13:52:54 GMT -5
you think after this long layoff, GSP would come back and put everyone to sleep like that? I think he would feel pressure to give people a show and get caught GSP has never been about putting on a show - he's all about implementing a smart game plan, sticking to it, and getting the win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 14:22:52 GMT -5
Lol at Conor beating GSP... A bigger, longer, and stronger dude with cardio for years is a nightmare match up for Conor. GSP hasn't been sitting on his ass this whole time, he can be at 75% and push Conor's shit in.
GSP will have the best jab Conor has seen, he will be the biggest fighter Conor has faced, the best wrestler (maybe Chad but for the size, I rate GSP as the better MMA wrestler) he had went up against, and probably the most athletic.
GSP does not overextend his punches and he wouldnt be stupid enough to throw so many lead right hands against a southpaw like Eddie did. GSP finishes his first opponent in ages if he fought Conor for 5 rounds.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 18, 2016 14:39:23 GMT -5
Lol at Conor beating GSP... A bigger, longer, and stronger dude with cardio for years is a nightmare match up for Conor. GSP hasn't been sitting on his ass this whole time, he can be at 75% and push Conor's shit in. GSP will have the best jab Conor has seen, he will be the biggest fighter Conor has faced, the best wrestler (maybe Chad but for the size, I rate GSP as the better MMA wrestler) he had went up against, and probably the most athletic. GSP does not overextend his punches and he wouldnt be stupid enough to throw so many lead right hands against a southpaw like Eddie did. GSP finishes his first opponent in ages if he fought Conor for 5 rounds. ^ This.
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Post by Premier on Nov 20, 2016 14:35:02 GMT -5
I'm not a Conor fan, but I am all about historical moments in any sport.
Give him the fight. A chance for history. If Conor wins, we might never see anything like it again....ever.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 20, 2016 14:57:39 GMT -5
I say let Conor fight Woodley..
Diaz put Conor on queer street.
Woodley will KO him.
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Post by TheStorm on Nov 20, 2016 17:08:26 GMT -5
LOL at GSPs jab giving Conor trouble... When has GSP ever fought a striker of the same caliber as Conor? Condit? Diaz? Don't think so. Conor is an elite striker, maybe not on Andersons level but pretty damn close and far above anyone GSP has faced that I can remember. Not saying GSP won't put him on his back quickly, but his striking will not be a factor against Conor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 21:53:23 GMT -5
LOL at GSPs jab giving Conor trouble... When has GSP ever fought a striker of the same caliber as Conor? Condit? Diaz? Don't think so. Conor is an elite striker, maybe not on Andersons level but pretty damn close and far above anyone GSP has faced that I can remember. Not saying GSP won't put him on his back quickly, but his striking will not be a factor against Conor. LOL at GSP NOT giving Conor trouble. When has Connor faced someone with wrestling like GSP?? He couldn't consistently stuff GSP's shots. As for Connor beating Woodely, don't make me laugh. Connor is certainly one of a kind, and one of the best P4P out there, and will go down as one of the P4P best eventually, but he's still naturally someone who belongs somewhere between LW and Featherweight. Woodley is a MONSTER WW, didn't he fight at MW too?? He's got GREAT wrestling, VERY powerful explosive striking, good chin, decent BJJ. WAY too much for Connor to handle. People are SO much in love with Connor right now they think he can beat everyone but he can't. If Diaz subbed him the first time, how do you think Connor would do with a more powerful, more explosive striker who probably hits harder than Diaz, is 10 times better at wrestling, and also has decent BJJ?? Totally different style match up, but I don't see it likely that Connor could just knock Woodley out and stuff all his shots. Woodley would come forward with power of his own, a great chin, and not be at a reach disadvantage. He'd have enough striking and power to back Connor up enough to get in on the takedowns, and once on his back it would be the beginning of the end. And of COURSE the Storm agrees with TNCclubman, cause they are the same poster LOL. Also, of course Woodley wants a LW/FW over Wonderboy cause Wonderboy gave him FITS. That fights was rightful draw: both guys had their moments and caused eachother a lot of trouble and a rematch could go either way. Then we have Maia waiting to fight the winner. Giving Connor a shot at WW is just not fair to either Wonderboy or Maia and is ridiculous as well. Connor can't simply just beat EVERYONE. We are forgetting how badly he lost to Diaz the first time. What, should we give him a shot at Bisping? What about Cormier? Can he beat DC? Or even Stipe? LOL He's really one of the best we have ever seen, but he's not unbeatable and I don't think he's unbeatable at LW either. I want to see him fight Khabib. Someone said that because Johnson got in some good shots on Khabib it means Connor would beat him but that's going too far: Khabib is 24-0 and has ragdolled EVERYONE he's fought. Sure, Johnson got in some shots before being taken down, and STILL possibly lost that first round 10-8, certainly lost the second 10-8 IMO and got subbed in the 3rd. Khabib made Johnson his bitch LOL. Both Khabib and Ferguson would give Connor everything he could handle and both have legit shots at beating him. I think Khabib and Ferguson need to fight to get the shot at Connor. I'm not sure who is ranked higher, but if they aren't going to fight then whoever is ranked higher should get the next shot at him, with the other getting the shot at the winner of that. But I wouldn't be so entirely sure that Connor can get through BOTH Khabib and Ferguson and stay champ. Lets hold our horses on him taking over WW as well lol.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 20, 2016 22:24:03 GMT -5
It took Khabib a long time to get MJ down.
No way he takes that many shots from Conor and survives.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 22:30:39 GMT -5
It took Khabib a long time to get MJ down. No way he takes that many shots from Conor and survives. I know you said that, and I see it as POSSIBLY a way he could lose, but I'm not as convinced as you. He still took him down in first round, handled the shots, and proceeded to make him look like a child for the rest of the fight. MMA Math doesn't always work, and he's 24-0 and that's pretty much the only time I've seen him take that many shots. There's no way to entirely predict that if he fought Connor he'd take that many shots before getting a takedown. Khabib is a BEAST and has earned his right, or at least maybe he should fight Ferguson for the shot, but if he beats him, he should get it. I don't think Conor can beat BOTH Khabib and Ferguson. In particular Ferguson would be a WAR as I think he has the reach advantage on Conor, very good striking, very good wrestling and BJJ too. But I wouldn't just say Khabib stands no shot against Conor because he got hit several times before getting the takedown. It hasn't happened to him many times before, and he still got it, still dominated, and still has one of the most impressive win streaks going in a long time at 24-0. Even IF he'd lose, if he's the number one contender you can't NOT give it to him. Ferguson is the only other guy he MIGHT have to go through to get it, or who could get it over him. It's unfair to consider anyone else getting shot.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 20, 2016 22:40:00 GMT -5
There's always a possibility, but MJ kept him away for a long time with his boxing.
Khabib isn't going to take Conor's punches that long before shooting.
And I would say Conor has better TDD than MJ.
Don't get me wrong, I think Khabib wins the ground game.
I'm just not convinced he can get him there as easily as he did MJ.
I doubt the UFC puts Conor in there with Khabib. It's not a money move.
Diaz 3, Aldo or Woodley next.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 23:10:12 GMT -5
Woodley would be ridiculous.
I really think he's going to need to defend one of his two belts, no Diaz 3 and no Woodley.
Ferguson would be a GREAT fight, more exciting than Khabib.
If they won't let Khabib have the shot they should let Ferguson get it.
There's no way that fight wouldn't be epic.
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Post by TheStorm on Nov 21, 2016 2:48:32 GMT -5
LOL at GSPs jab giving Conor trouble... When has GSP ever fought a striker of the same caliber as Conor? Condit? Diaz? Don't think so. Conor is an elite striker, maybe not on Andersons level but pretty damn close and far above anyone GSP has faced that I can remember. Not saying GSP won't put him on his back quickly, but his striking will not be a factor against Conor. LOL at GSP NOT giving Conor trouble. When has Connor faced someone with wrestling like GSP?? He couldn't consistently stuff GSP's shots. As for Connor beating Woodely, don't make me laugh. Connor is certainly one of a kind, and one of the best P4P out there, and will go down as one of the P4P best eventually, but he's still naturally someone who belongs somewhere between LW and Featherweight. Woodley is a MONSTER WW, didn't he fight at MW too?? He's got GREAT wrestling, VERY powerful explosive striking, good chin, decent BJJ. WAY too much for Connor to handle. People are SO much in love with Connor right now they think he can beat everyone but he can't. If Diaz subbed him the first time, how do you think Connor would do with a more powerful, more explosive striker who probably hits harder than Diaz, is 10 times better at wrestling, and also has decent BJJ?? Totally different style match up, but I don't see it likely that Connor could just knock Woodley out and stuff all his shots. Woodley would come forward with power of his own, a great chin, and not be at a reach disadvantage. He'd have enough striking and power to back Connor up enough to get in on the takedowns, and once on his back it would be the beginning of the end. And of COURSE the Storm agrees with TNCclubman, cause they are the same poster LOL. Also, of course Woodley wants a LW/FW over Wonderboy cause Wonderboy gave him FITS. That fights was rightful draw: both guys had their moments and caused eachother a lot of trouble and a rematch could go either way. Then we have Maia waiting to fight the winner. Giving Connor a shot at WW is just not fair to either Wonderboy or Maia and is ridiculous as well. Connor can't simply just beat EVERYONE. We are forgetting how badly he lost to Diaz the first time. What, should we give him a shot at Bisping? What about Cormier? Can he beat DC? Or even Stipe? LOL He's really one of the best we have ever seen, but he's not unbeatable and I don't think he's unbeatable at LW either. I want to see him fight Khabib. Someone said that because Johnson got in some good shots on Khabib it means Connor would beat him but that's going too far: Khabib is 24-0 and has ragdolled EVERYONE he's fought. Sure, Johnson got in some shots before being taken down, and STILL possibly lost that first round 10-8, certainly lost the second 10-8 IMO and got subbed in the 3rd. Khabib made Johnson his bitch LOL. Both Khabib and Ferguson would give Connor everything he could handle and both have legit shots at beating him. I think Khabib and Ferguson need to fight to get the shot at Connor. I'm not sure who is ranked higher, but if they aren't going to fight then whoever is ranked higher should get the next shot at him, with the other getting the shot at the winner of that. But I wouldn't be so entirely sure that Connor can get through BOTH Khabib and Ferguson and stay champ. Lets hold our horses on him taking over WW as well lol. Um.... do you lack the ability to read a post and comprehend anything that was said? I did not say GSP wouldn't give Conor trouble, I said his JAB wouldn't give Conor trouble.. his striking for that matter would not give Conor any trouble. I also said that I think GSP very well may put Conor right on his back with wrestling. Continue to be the most clueless poster on these boards , Toehold. First for not being able to understand a simple post and proceeding to freak the fuck out as usual, and second for believing that I have an alternate account.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Nov 21, 2016 5:41:15 GMT -5
EDDIE ALVAREZ WAS CONQUERED! COOOOOONQURRED!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 12:13:49 GMT -5
Lol @ Conor not having to worry about GSP's striking. Nate put Conor on Queer Street and then choked him out and he does not have the crisp, quick, clean boxing technique or kicking variety of GSP.
GSP has one of the best jabs in the UFC, he basically won a fight with just that plus he has two inches of reach on Conor. Conor is a great striker but we have seen that he uses his length well but has trouble with longer fighters, GSP is longer and faster.
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Post by TheStorm on Nov 21, 2016 13:00:57 GMT -5
Lol @ Conor not having to worry about GSP's striking. Nate put Conor on Queer Street and then choked him out and he does not have the crisp, quick, clean boxing technique or kicking variety of GSP. GSP has one of the best jabs in the UFC, he basically won a fight with just that plus he has two inches of reach on Conor. Conor is a great striker but we have seen that he uses his length well but has trouble with longer fighters, GSP is longer and faster. He got put on Queer Street because he was gassed. He fought a very stupid fight both times really by trying to knock out a Diaz. Luckily in the second fight he got a second wind. The striking was no where near close in either fight though up until the point of exhaustion. GSP is a good MA striker, Conor is elite.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 14:17:20 GMT -5
Lol @ Conor not having to worry about GSP's striking. Nate put Conor on Queer Street and then choked him out and he does not have the crisp, quick, clean boxing technique or kicking variety of GSP. GSP has one of the best jabs in the UFC, he basically won a fight with just that plus he has two inches of reach on Conor. Conor is a great striker but we have seen that he uses his length well but has trouble with longer fighters, GSP is longer and faster. He got put on Queer Street because he was gassed. He fought a very stupid fight both times really by trying to knock out a Diaz. Luckily in the second fight he got a second wind. The striking was no where near close in either fight though up until the point of exhaustion. GSP is a good MA striker, Conor is elite. You got that argument wrapped up in a nice neat package. Conor winning exchanges = elite, Conor losing exchanges = Conor tired. Part of being an elite striker is energy management so if he is getting tattoo'd because he blew his load, that is poor form. Conor is not elite enought to jump to 170 and still be a boss. He is a great striker at 145 but he isn't getting away with some of that at 170 when a bad ass wrestler is always threatening the TD. That threat drops the efficacy of a striker tremendously as well. Conor would find little success when his length is negated and facing the best jab he has ever faced. Especially with a guy not afraid of kicking either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 14:24:10 GMT -5
I've never seen a guy get finished in one of his last three fights, barely win the rematch, and then win via KO being in talks of best ever.
Conor is awesome but I have to put a little perspective on this. He lost to a guy that took the fight on short notice and didn't look great in the rematch, huffing and puffing, and being laughed at when he ran to reset. Yeah he won but it was not a good performance. Yes, he looked exceptional against Alvarez and there is nothing to say other than he looked great. However, that performance does not erase the ass whipping he received less than a year ago or his less than stellar rematch win.
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