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Post by agrappleaday on Oct 21, 2016 10:25:12 GMT -5
With our resident Cave Bear getting out of rehab the other day, I thought we could use another thread like we had at weekly to stay up on his progress and for him to keep us posted and vent when needed. I thought we would have heard from him again by now, hopefully he's just been keeping busy getting settled and going to meetings and shit. Jim, where ya at?
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Post by matt on Oct 21, 2016 10:27:39 GMT -5
He's busy putting little sacks onto his fishing rod.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 11:52:58 GMT -5
This dude relapse yet?
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Post by Tapout on Oct 24, 2016 8:58:44 GMT -5
Nothing from Bear yet? Anyone on FB have an update?
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Post by Fasthands25 on Oct 24, 2016 9:48:09 GMT -5
DA BEAR IS LOOSE!
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Post by MMAJim on Oct 24, 2016 10:11:00 GMT -5
Did Bear shit in the woods yet?
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Post by agrappleaday on Oct 24, 2016 12:36:35 GMT -5
I can't help but feel that a lack of contact is a bad sign. Hopefully it's exactly the opposite and this is one of the cycles and regularities that he is breaking out of. I guess we'll see, maybe...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 16:55:18 GMT -5
From his most recent posts he seems like he is a whole different person... happy, not argumentative and seemed like he had some grasp of what he did to hurt himself. I hope he is busy getting his life back on track and his absence is not a sign of bad things.
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Post by peAk on Oct 27, 2016 6:33:31 GMT -5
No word on CB?
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Post by Premier on Oct 27, 2016 8:49:52 GMT -5
What I don't get is that at first he said he was going to be in rehab for like 6 months. But he was only there for like a month right? Hope he didn't quit.
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Post by Tapout on Oct 27, 2016 8:54:45 GMT -5
I know a few people here were friends with him on FB no?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 9:18:55 GMT -5
He has been on the site recently but no posts. Not like him to not check in or comment about someones post. Hopefully the Steelhead are running and he is out and about staying busy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 9:30:54 GMT -5
Over/Under on a Bear bender? For such a long time abuser and relapser, that was far too short of a stint to really be effective imo. I think he knew he wanted to get high, fooled his counselors and went from there.
We've seen this far too many times to think otherwise imo.
I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to be. But I don't think I am.
Someone give odds and I got a 50 spot on it.
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Post by Tapout on Oct 27, 2016 10:11:09 GMT -5
The fact that he has been on this site, knows that a thread has been created for him, with people asking questions about him, with no response, makes me think you might be right Vale.
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Post by Tapout on Oct 27, 2016 10:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 10:29:31 GMT -5
I think he's just off the internet. Hasn't posted to FB in almost 10 days. Was getting a new apartment and all that. Probably has no internet hook up, and that's probably a good thing. Not sure why you're rooting for him to fail Vale. I recall he got you pissed enough to call him on the phone and try to run your mouth at him a few weeks back (what was the point of that anyway? were you working on your pro wrestling promo style? really think anyone, ever, is going to bow down to someone frothing at the mouth at them over the phone, or more likely, just laugh at them?). It's like you want him to fail though, knowing that if he falls down that hole again he'll probably fucking die. Not cool. Not cool at all man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 10:33:15 GMT -5
Not rooting. I stated I'd love to be wrong.
But I'm a realist first and foremost. There wont be any coddling from me, just as it won't help if there is any from any of you.
I've had 1/3 friends in my life go down to drugs, it's nothing new to me.
Coming from a guy that makes vids talking to trolls, showing up in parking garages to fight and tracking down up adresses...while I do find that in some way somewhat admirable...you aren't exactly in a place to judge anyone bud.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 10:46:15 GMT -5
And before I get any lame bullshit for my thoughts, let it be known I offered the guy...after he texted and called many times because he was on a good one...I offered to fly the guy out and stick him out in the middle of the desert in my place. Would have been likely the next best thing to rehab, as I wasn't aware he had the ability to go but he claimed he wanted to.
I'm sure that would have bitten me in the ass big time in some way shape or form, but I offered out of just trying to do the right thing.
The reason I called the dude was to try and be like "what the fuck is this all about?", considering I had listened to his trials and tribulations for probably hours...while my girl shot me dirty looks and got pissed that I was trying to help a stranger. And for that person to try and dig into me wit bullshit...no, not gonna happen
So I don't feel I should get any shit. Save it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 10:54:12 GMT -5
So I don't feel I should get any shit. Save it. Really giving zero shits would be to simply stop talking about or to the guy. That's all I'm saying. There's a difference between supporting someone's positive changes and coddling them. But what's the point in saying you believe they will fail? So you can say you were right if they die from an overdose? I've lost some friends to heroin as well. Not a third of them, not even close, but a few. His radio silence isn't necessarily a bad thing. Most likely he's trying to break old patterns of behavior that played a role in his habit, and part of that might mean saying goodbye for good to the places he spent so much time on the internet. All I'm sayin is that if you really don't give a shit, don't spend energy saying anything. That (and only that) demonstrates not giving a shit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 10:57:11 GMT -5
Reading comprehension on the brink today?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 12:07:22 GMT -5
No, still better than almost everyone else's in the country. I read everything you said, and I understood it. Here's a demonstration of my reading comp for you. Over/Under on a Bear bender? For such a long time abuser and relapser, that was far too short of a stint to really be effective imo. I think he knew he wanted to get high, fooled his counselors and went from there. We've seen this far too many times to think otherwise imo. I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to be. But I don't think I am. Someone give odds and I got a 50 spot on it. My reading comprehension makes it so I understand that the part I put in bold is you offering to place a bet against his success. So you want someone to take 50 bucks from you? Because that seems kinda strange considering you said you want to be wrong. That's like betting on a fight saying you hope the guy you bet on loses. It makes no sense. Now, let's talk about your reading comprehension, and ability to use logic. I know one guy here who really doesn't give a shit about what happens to Bear. And you can tell. Because he's nowhere to be found in this thread. Gives so few shits that he won't even say anything in the thread. That's the proof that he doesn't give a shit. Silence. Speaking here requires effort, and that entails giving a shit. Capiche?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 12:15:27 GMT -5
If I never gave a fuck I would have never offered to help the guy. Or listened to him while he moaned about his drug use, or offered any advice.
Like I said, I'm a realist. I'll throw a 50 spot down all day because I am Purdy sure I'm going to win that bet. Has nothing to do with what I hope happens. It's the difference between betting with your heart and betting with your brain. I figured you could understand that.
Once again, so we are capiche, caprice and bacon quiche, I hope he proves me wrong. But I don't think he will.
Until then, fully expect me to chime in from time to time. I'll be that asshole.
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Post by peAk on Oct 27, 2016 12:21:49 GMT -5
What, besides alcohol, was CB addicted to? I remember him being drunk a lot in the MMA threads but I don't really know much more than that.
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Post by Premier on Oct 27, 2016 12:28:51 GMT -5
He has posted about taking meth and heron.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 12:30:53 GMT -5
What, besides alcohol, was CB addicted to? I remember him being drunk a lot in the MMA threads but I don't really know much more than that. "Whats my drug of choice, well what have you got?" Ime, that best explains it. That dude was ready for it all. I'm not joking or making light of it, it is what it is. I've dealt with this so many times with friends. You don't get anywhere by coddling. The work and dedication it takes to kicking these types of habits takes some serious lifestyle and attitude changes. Those changes don't happen typically unless some serious shit goes down. Dude lost an arm, didn't matter. Dude hits rock bottom bunch of times, doesn't matter. If that's not enough to shake you and wake you, I don't know what is. So I'm not sorry if I don't come off with the "oh, let's go Bear bullcrap". Fuck that. Dig deep. Get past this. Stay past this. There is no try with this, it's do or don't do.
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Post by TitoOrtizIsAPunk on Oct 27, 2016 12:57:28 GMT -5
Dude needs a healthy dose of LSD
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 27, 2016 13:36:21 GMT -5
i blame tapout
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 13:41:47 GMT -5
Dude, you bet on him failing. If you need $50 that bad, send me your address and I'll mail you $50. You aren't going to prevent him from doing drugs or encourage him to not do drugs, in any meaningful way out here. Being a dick will not impact what he does or does not do one iota. But at least you're admitting that you're being an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 14:15:47 GMT -5
And I'm pretty sure that would be a sure bet.
You don't see anyone taking me up on it lol.
But as far as you taking offense to it for whatever reason, chill the fuck out.
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Post by Tapout on Oct 27, 2016 14:19:06 GMT -5
Should have let sleeping bears lie.
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