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Post by boboplata on Dec 29, 2018 2:50:53 GMT -5
Just skimming through the thread...so I defenitely missed a lot. But from my quick read, people seem to be on some soapbox, all butthurt about this whole situation ( Looking at you Bobo. But I just admitted to not reading the whole thread, so I don't want to accuse you of being the high horse, butthurt guy....but from the little I read. Yeah you). Fuck it Bobo. Any sense of integrity and fairness went out the door the moment the new UFC owners took over and made it all about the money. I'm just enjoying the ride now. Forget deserved title shots, rankings, Roid testing, etc. Say hello to constant super/freak show fights, roided fighters and whatever makes a quick buck. I'll be looking to smaller orgs if I ever miss the "sport" aspect of MMA. The gist of it is UFC is bending over backwards for Jones. He popped a couple months back and only told the NSAC a few weeks before the fight that's why he won't get licensed in Nevada so they moved the fight to Cali. They're anti-doping guy is an accountant for the fed and not a scientist. If you watch Jeff's body language he knows he's out of his depth and you could clearly see him die a little every time he opens his mouth to shill. Also, Dana basically said fans in vegas can stay and watch the fights in a casino.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Dec 29, 2018 8:14:18 GMT -5
Look guys in about 18 hours we are going to see Gustafsson fucking knock this piece of shit around the octagon like a side of beef. Its all good. Uppercut city bitch.
Im fucked up right now.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 9:19:48 GMT -5
This should be a free card. Who is actually paying for this?
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Post by boboplata on Dec 29, 2018 11:40:56 GMT -5
mymmanews.com/csac-not-informed-jon-jones-test-findings/"Before they awarded him with a license to fight in their state, the California State Athletic Commission missed out on some pretty important information. During his meeting with the media, Jeff Novitzky, who handles all the USADA cases for the UFC, said that the CSAC was not informed of the findings in Jon Jones’ testing results before their license hearing with Jones on December 11."
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 12:01:32 GMT -5
What a joke.
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Post by slaytan on Dec 29, 2018 14:59:08 GMT -5
. I agree. We see that Jones’ dominance is at least in part creditable to ROIDS. My feeling is that DC beats Jones sans ROIDS. If I were DC I would be very bitter about that. Without being KO by a roid kick, DC is the consensus MMA GOAT. In my mind, there has never been a better champ and representative of the sport. He should be a huge star and would be except for Jones ROIDING TF UP and claiming an illegitimate win which cannot be erased.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Dec 29, 2018 15:35:40 GMT -5
The worst part is, Jones never needed it. He's such a mental midget that he felt like he did, but he didn't. I agree that DC should be considered the goat out of the two.
The saddest part of the whole debacle to me isn't Dana and the UFC selling themselves out, because that's expected at this point. It's Rogan shilling on their behalf on his platform. Mr. "I don't need the UFC and would quit tomorrow blab blah blah" completely sold out on it.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 16:07:16 GMT -5
. I agree. We see that Jones’ dominance is at least in part creditable to ROIDS. My feeling is that DC beats Jones sans ROIDS. If I were DC I would be very bitter about that. Without being KO by a roid kick, DC is the consensus MMA GOAT. In my mind, there has never been a better champ and representative of the sport. He should be a huge star and would be except for Jones ROIDING TF UP and claiming an illegitimate win which cannot be erased. DC owed Stipe a rematch.. That Lewis fight was bullshit. I blame both UFC and DC though.
DC is annoying in my opinion, but at least he shows up to fight.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 16:12:40 GMT -5
The worst part is, Jones never needed it. He's such a mental midget that he felt like he did, but he didn't. I agree that DC should be considered the goat out of the two. The saddest part of the whole debacle to me isn't Dana and the UFC selling themselves out, because that's expected at this point. It's Rogan shilling on their behalf on his platform. Mr. "I don't need the UFC and would quit tomorrow blab blah blah" completely sold out on it. I'm pretty sure Jones knows himself better than you do.
Him and his team made the decision that he needed it to compete at the highest level.
Jones has never won a fight off the juice..
So, yes, he did need it.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Dec 29, 2018 16:15:22 GMT -5
The worst part is, Jones never needed it. He's such a mental midget that he felt like he did, but he didn't. I agree that DC should be considered the goat out of the two. The saddest part of the whole debacle to me isn't Dana and the UFC selling themselves out, because that's expected at this point. It's Rogan shilling on their behalf on his platform. Mr. "I don't need the UFC and would quit tomorrow blab blah blah" completely sold out on it. I'm pretty sure Jones knows himself better than you do.
Him and his team made the decision that he needed it to compete at the highest level.
Jones has never won a fight off the juice..
So, yes, he did need it.
That's a fair opinion. But from an outside perspective of watching talent, he didn't need it.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 16:18:13 GMT -5
Who will have the stream tonight? Someone PM me.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 16:24:14 GMT -5
I hope Condit fucks up that Cheese dude. Can't stand that guy.
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Post by floater on Dec 29, 2018 16:37:39 GMT -5
Who will have the stream tonight? Someone PM me. Me too please (no way am I paying for this)
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Post by slaytan on Dec 29, 2018 16:40:28 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Jones knows himself better than you do.
Him and his team made the decision that he needed it to compete at the highest level.
Jones has never won a fight off the juice..
So, yes, he did need it.
That's a fair opinion. But from an outside perspective of watching talent, he didn't need it. . Against DC, he absolutely needed it. Vs everyone else, not so much but I, personally, believe that without ROIDS, he gets tooled and finished by DC.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 29, 2018 17:10:42 GMT -5
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Post by Premier on Dec 29, 2018 17:16:38 GMT -5
Drama aside, this lineup is pretty good.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 29, 2018 17:31:22 GMT -5
The amount of people not wanting to pay for it does not equal the people who would not have bought it if Gus/Jones was canceled... Far outweighs it... Just makes you see what people will do when there are millions of dollars at stake. Most will get over it and still enjoy the fight, which is why we watch.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 29, 2018 17:32:54 GMT -5
For the accountant who can't embed
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Post by andrewk1988 on Dec 29, 2018 19:02:39 GMT -5
I mean that guy took a lot of time to explain some shit. But really he didn't explain anything. He just essentially ended it with "maybe it's a bad test...over and over and over that only affects JJ".
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Post by daywork on Dec 29, 2018 19:09:40 GMT -5
I hope Cyborg does good tonight. Nunez is a big test for her. I think Nunez has better/Crisper striking and probably better footwork. Cyborg probably is stronger and has more power to her shots. I think Cyborg has more heart and maybe a better gas tank. On the ground, I don't care. I don't want to see the fight there.
Plus, I've been talking Cyborg up for years. If she gets her ass whooped you guys will never let me live it down LOL
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 29, 2018 19:56:54 GMT -5
So, who has a line on the stream link?
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Post by Fasthands25 on Dec 29, 2018 20:14:01 GMT -5
BJ Penn needs to retire
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Post by HankPNW on Dec 29, 2018 20:15:44 GMT -5
BJ Penn needs to retire The game passed by BJ years ago and never looked back. Enough is enough.
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Post by HankPNW on Dec 29, 2018 20:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by MMAJim on Dec 29, 2018 20:17:39 GMT -5
I hope Cyborg does good tonight. Nunez is a big test for her. I think Nunez has better/Crisper striking and probably better footwork. Cyborg probably is stronger and has more power to her shots. I think Cyborg has more heart and maybe a better gas tank. On the ground, I don't care. I don't want to see the fight there. Plus, I've been talking Cyborg up for years. If she gets her ass whooped you guys will never let me live it down LOL Totally superficial but I though Amanda looked as goos as I’ve seen anyone look in a staredown with Cyborb at the ceremonial weigh-in. Stoic but also calm and confident. Staredowns don’t always mean much but hey, it’s all i got.
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Post by HankPNW on Dec 29, 2018 20:19:56 GMT -5
I'm rolling with the dogs tonight. Rooting for big KOs from both of them.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Dec 29, 2018 20:24:45 GMT -5
BJ Penn needs to retire The game passed by BJ years ago and never looked back. Enough is enough. Hasn't won a fight in 8 fucking years man. It just depresses me now. Let him fight CM Punk so at least one of those two can walk away with a W.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Dec 29, 2018 20:39:16 GMT -5
Yan looks good in this fight so far.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Dec 29, 2018 20:44:18 GMT -5
Yan is on this guy like a Wolverine on pancakes.
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Post by adamg01 on Dec 29, 2018 21:51:29 GMT -5
Holy shit, Arlovski’s physique looks AWFUL.
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