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Post by johncfc on Dec 26, 2018 21:45:58 GMT -5
I also believe that the violation could be metabolites from his previous test that he failed. However, previous fighters have had similar situations and haven't been given the benefit of the doubt.
It's a complete sham.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 0:05:18 GMT -5
Check the last part. Around the 8:44. 8:44 mark? It's only 8:30 minutes long. I watched the Gus and Dana part. I think they left out the part where they give Gus a suitcase to keep the fight on. Yeah, my bad. And say what you want about Brenda's comedy but Schaub who is not beholden to the WME goofs like Rogan and the mma "media" can speak his mind. That or it's CTE taking over. 21 minute mark.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 0:09:10 GMT -5
I also believe that the violation could be metabolites from his previous test that he failed. However, previous fighters have had similar situations and haven't been given the benefit of the doubt. It's a complete sham. Mir, Lawlor and Crocop comes to mind. Mirco was micro dosing with hgh for his shoulder and was really upfront with it. His B sample didn't even tested positive. Lawlor had something like 17 picogram. But with Jones? Wasn't he tested 6x prior to this? Metabolite was sleeping for 18 months? I will never believe USADA/UFC/Dana in this scenario. Fuck with the "experts" talk in the embedded video.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 1:15:42 GMT -5
Novitzky will be on Rogan's podcast tomorrow.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 1:31:23 GMT -5
Novitzky will be on Rogan's podcast tomorrow. What's the point of damage control? Fucking shills. Fuck them for making me a Brendan fan even for a couple of minutes.
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Post by Premier on Dec 27, 2018 10:54:42 GMT -5
Love it. Rather deal with this and see Jones fight again.
Fuck the sport. Fuck trying to become "mainstream and legitimate ". Fuck the rankings. Fuck deserved title shots.
That all went out of the window when the new owners took over.
Let's get back to basics. Two dudes fucking each other up.
Get rid of USADA completely.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 11:22:31 GMT -5
Novitzky will be on Rogan's podcast tomorrow. What's the point of damage control? Fucking shills. Fuck them for making me a Brendan fan even for a couple of minutes. Don't shoot the messenger Bobo! Brandon does make a lot of sense. I don't dislike him.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 12:08:55 GMT -5
What's the point of damage control? Fucking shills. Fuck them for making me a Brendan fan even for a couple of minutes. Don't shoot the messenger Bobo! Brandon does make a lot of sense. I don't dislike him. I do listen to The Fighter and The Kid that's why my opinion of Brendan has it's highs and lows. And Brendan can let loose as his not beholden to UFC/WME-IMG. Remember the "eskimo brother" incident? No active fighter in the UFC's roster could even joke about it with Dana. The closest would be Khabib. He tweeted a screenshot of the embedded episode of Gus and co. talking to Dana in which he basically typed to just legalize steroids.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 14:40:59 GMT -5
Jon Jones is not a cheater - he's just the GOAT and probably naturally produces Tbol because he's a genetic freak. Brendan is good at analyzing MMA. I appretiate his opinions, but he wasnt a great fighter and his comedy is not funny to me.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 15:07:32 GMT -5
Live now. Probably gonna be the most disliked JRE episode when this is done.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 16:31:21 GMT -5
I can't even...just plain disgusting the way they protect this scumbag. "Road to redemption" my ass.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 16:58:13 GMT -5
I can't even...just plain disgusting the way they protect this scumbag. "Road to redemption" my ass. I didn't listen but what is your take on it? A bit more of a break down if you may...
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 17:13:48 GMT -5
I watched the whole thing and it should be pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain, who isnt on the UFC conspiracy bandwagon, that Jon Jones did not cheat and the UFC/USADA are NOT protecting him. Anyone who listened to that podcast and walked away thinking otherwise is an ignorant retard. Every expert in the anti-doping industry agrees that Jon Jones did not take anything that would give him a competitive advantage and the metabolites found are most likely from a contaminated substance. The theory is that the metabolites that keep showing up are leftover trace amounts that have been stored in his body fat and are reappearing due to his recent weight cutting. They have other cases of the same thing happening in other sports as well. Very thorough and detailed science was presented to make these claims very clear, so unless you have the same credentials as the experts who have dedicated their entire careers to studying this stuff, you should probably take your ignorant misinformed opinions back to your parents basement and STFU.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:20:27 GMT -5
I watched the whole thing and it should be pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain, who isnt on the UFC conspiracy bandwagon, that Jon Jones did not cheat and the UFC/USADA are NOT protecting him. Anyone who listened to that podcast and walked away thinking otherwise is an ignorant retard. Every expert in the anti-doping industry agrees that Jon Jones did not take anything that would give him a competitive advantage and the metabolites found are most likely from a contaminated substance. The theory is that the metabolites that keep showing up are leftover trace amounts that have been stored in his body fat and are reappearing due to his recent weight cutting. They have other cases of the same thing happening in other sports as well. Very thorough and detailed science was presented to make these claims very clear, so unless you have the same credentials as the experts who have dedicated their entire careers to studying this stuff, you should probably take your ignorant misinformed opinions back to your parents basement and STFU. Copypasta summary from sherdog. Which in fact came out of their mouths during the podcast.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 17:27:10 GMT -5
lol that couldnt be any more out of context from a 2 hour conversation. Do your homework.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:28:34 GMT -5
lol that couldnt be any more out of context from a 2 hour conversation. Do your homework. Best schtick on the forums.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:32:18 GMT -5
Jonas gunning for that golden snitch shirt.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 17:36:03 GMT -5
I watched the whole thing and it should be pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain, who isnt on the UFC conspiracy bandwagon, that Jon Jones did not cheat and the UFC/USADA are NOT protecting him. Anyone who listened to that podcast and walked away thinking otherwise is an ignorant retard. Every expert in the anti-doping industry agrees that Jon Jones did not take anything that would give him a competitive advantage and the metabolites found are most likely from a contaminated substance. The theory is that the metabolites that keep showing up are leftover trace amounts that have been stored in his body fat and are reappearing due to his recent weight cutting. They have other cases of the same thing happening in other sports as well. Very thorough and detailed science was presented to make these claims very clear, so unless you have the same credentials as the experts who have dedicated their entire careers to studying this stuff, you should probably take your ignorant misinformed opinions back to your parents basement and STFU. Hold your horses pal, hold your horses! I guess I should listen but not going to stop me from wondering stuff... How can the weigtr cutting be different than his regular training days... Were he is sweating and burning fat as well. Isn't most weight cutting mostly water weight? If they catch you at the gym, wouldn't these same metabolites also be excreted? It's fascinating. I wonder how Nevada is going to act next time he applies. I wonder if he ever fights in Vegas again. Nevada is pretty much the head example for most other commissions. Are they wrong or were they really "on vacation", especially while they have an event in progress and California is about to end the year with no events... Shouldn't they have been the ones on vacation... Having said that. Of course I'm still watching! People buying the PPV don't care where the location of the event is. Only people getting really screwed are the fans in Vegas but compared to a million PPVs, that is a small minority. Go Gus!
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:37:02 GMT -5
I can't even...just plain disgusting the way they protect this scumbag. "Road to redemption" my ass. I didn't listen but what is your take on it? A bit more of a break down if you may... In a word: shilling. Jonas is impressed by an accountant that worked for the fed though. Sciencing all over the podcast. Must be an expert. Watch if you have the stomach for it.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 17:37:09 GMT -5
Jonas gunning for that golden snitch shirt. Jonas is probably an accountant...
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 17:38:07 GMT -5
JEFF NOVITSKY IS SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD COMBINED. He's a good man who has done good things for this sport. The only thing Bobo has done for this sport is create a forum for MMA elite retards to join and discuss things like "What if Kimbo fought Brock Lesnar".
Thanks buddy - always wanted to know the answers to some of this super intellectual shit.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:38:54 GMT -5
“Make sure to do your analysis at home when comparing Turinabols”
Joe : Yes that is very important. What’s the difference?
Jeff : I dont know to be honest, I just know it’s not the same.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:40:35 GMT -5
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 17:42:05 GMT -5
Lance is still butthurt he got caught cheating.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:43:58 GMT -5
Lance is still butthurt he got caught cheating. Dude...he would know. That's the point of it. And Lance was spot on. No actual science was presented by the expert accountant.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 17:46:57 GMT -5
Lance is still butthurt he got caught cheating. Dude...he would know. That's the point of it. And Lance was spot on. No actual science was presented by the expert accountant. You must have been busy moderating when the science was presented. THE MOST CLEAR AND CONCISE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED IN DEPTH BY THE MOST RESPECTED EXPERTS IN THE ANTI-DOPING INDUSTRY, BRO.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 17:48:58 GMT -5
So if it's stored in your fat, does Mir get a pass for life?
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 27, 2018 17:50:54 GMT -5
So if it's stored in your fat, does Mir get a pass for life? The difference between Mir and Jones is Mir declined to take his case to an arbitrator. Jones did and they determined he did not take anything intentionally. Mir did not challenge USADA's decision, and I wouldnt expect anything more from someone who taps to strikes.
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Post by boboplata on Dec 27, 2018 17:55:55 GMT -5
So if it's stored in your fat, does Mir get a pass for life? The difference between Mir and Jones is Mir declined to take his case to an arbitrator. Jones did and they determined he did not take anything intentionally. Mir did not challenge USADA's decision, and I wouldnt expect anything more from someone who taps to strikes. Yeah, Mir fuct up on this one. I think Mir just basically called it quits but part of me thinks that the UFC called Jones and told him to what to do and they would be lenient with him. Time and time again.
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Post by HumanAgent on Dec 27, 2018 17:56:12 GMT -5
I was reading Frank's injuries. That guy seriously broke Frank's mouth. Almost felt sorry for him... Almost.
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