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Post by slaytan on Nov 9, 2018 8:50:34 GMT -5
The only surprise would be a blue wave. I could envision a red wave, but not a blue one. If the dumbs take the house, I guess I wont be surprised based on history and the sheer amount of money being spent. Here in FLorida, it's hard for me to actually envision Andrew Gorillam actually winning. If he does, it's due to the influx of low IQ Puerto Rican refugees from the hurricane. If DeSantis wins by less than a full % point, I expect the dumbocrats to make a stand in FL and try to steal the election Al Franken style
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Post by ocmmafan on Nov 9, 2018 9:59:09 GMT -5
The worst part of all of this is that anyone actually believes there is any real difference between democrats and Republicans any more. That line is so blurred that its translucent. When is the last time that you supported a candidate who won..and it had any real world bearing on your day to day life? The real nuts and bolt of these discussions is which of these rich and powerful people really care about your well being..and the answer is none. Whether you had a chinese made im with her tshirt or a chinese made red trucker hat, either one of them wouldnt spit on you if you were on fire. In my local area there is a big uproar over local candidates spending upwards of 50000 dollars of their own money to win a job that has a salary that is under 20000. Did they do it because they can make a change? To be honest its a lot more entertaining to watch elections once you have accepted that there is only one team that ever wins..the one who hangs out together at bohemian grove and laughs about taking all your money. Damn it im in a bad mood. I have to completely disagree. Sonia Sotomajor vs Samuel Alito has a significant impact on the life of every single person in the United States and the only reason you have no reason to consider it or believe it is because the Supreme Court has maintained a conservative advantage. The judges that are appointed by President's make a difference at every level. You take away that conservative majority and NOTHING is off the table. Open borders happens the day they get a majority. Steal an election? Who is going to stop the liberals then? Read about what's going on in Florida right now. It's easy to claim "all politicians bad" - and most ARE corrupt. You're right. Many candidates in both parties steal money, lie about their platform and too many become wealthy acting as public servants. But they are no more than same than a Chihuahua and a pitbull. Both will shit on your carpet but only one can kill or maim you. And who a President appoints to run government does make a big difference. How federal law enforcement is allowed to enforce laws is night and say under Eric Holder as AG vs Jeff Sessions. That's not how it should work. The IRS shouldn't be used to attack organizations by a POTUS but it WAS. Take a look at a state like California that was once conservative and prosperous but now has suffered under 25+ years of liberal mob rule. Bankruptcy, terrible schools, overrun with illegal aliens, literally shit (human feces) all over the sidewalk, businesses leaving, men can take a shower with little girls, you can't have a fucking straw for your drink..... is California exactly the same as WV?
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Post by verbal0knit on Nov 9, 2018 12:06:13 GMT -5
Incorrect. The only exclusions are for felony sexual assault and murder... all other offenders, even violent ones will have their voting rights restored. For example, you can be convicted of manslaughter and still have your voting rights restored. A criminal can plea down out of felony sexual assault to lesser charge while in court, meaning violent offenders who plead guilty to lesser charges can now have their voting rights restored. So a murderer who pleads guilty to assault charges can have voting rights restored. Its just a bullshit scam to trick the bleeding heart crowd into allowing convicted felons to vote again, and you shouldn't be surprised to find out that prison voting polls always show a large democratic edge. Oh, don't get me wrong, I know what they're trying to do but to deny them the right to vote if they already paid their dues is unconstitutional. That's a noble stance. My stance is that I don't want pedophiles, rapists and murderers voting to determine the shape of my society that I live in.
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Post by verbal0knit on Nov 9, 2018 12:24:07 GMT -5
If you paid your debt to society you should be able to reconnect to it. I dont have a problem with this at all. I personally don't feel that sentencing is harsh enough in most cases so I'd disagree that they've paid their debt to society. Also, this notion that a criminal went to jail to "pay a debt to society" is interesting to me, since the criminal isn't there to pay a debt rather they're there to protect society from their criminal actions. They're there to be punished as a deterrent from commiting crimes again. So does going to prison actually rehabilitate a criminal? Does sitting behind bars for an indiscriminate amount of time instantly turn a rapist or a child molester into a good, law abiding citizen? That's an interesting notion. In most cases, you'll find that time in prison hardens most criminals and makes them more crafty at their crimes. I personally don't feel like an immoral, criminal mind can be rehabilitated. But what the constitution says is another thing.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 9, 2018 12:25:28 GMT -5
Child rapists should be executed on site. Let’s start setting an example.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 9, 2018 13:30:17 GMT -5
Attempting to steal the election in Florida is a win win for Democrats. If they succeed, obviously they stole the election. If they fail, then the chant of the next two years will be “the republicans stole the electio,” because it will come down to judges appointed by republicans.
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Post by boboplata on Nov 9, 2018 13:42:01 GMT -5
Oh, don't get me wrong, I know what they're trying to do but to deny them the right to vote if they already paid their dues is unconstitutional. That's a noble stance. My stance is that I don't want pedophiles, rapists and murderers voting to determine the shape of my society that I live in. Again, sex offenders and murderers are not included. Stop being dictated by your emotions, you snowflake.
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Post by wvpunchdrunk on Nov 9, 2018 19:12:32 GMT -5
The worst part of all of this is that anyone actually believes there is any real difference between democrats and Republicans any more. That line is so blurred that its translucent. When is the last time that you supported a candidate who won..and it had any real world bearing on your day to day life? The real nuts and bolt of these discussions is which of these rich and powerful people really care about your well being..and the answer is none. Whether you had a chinese made im with her tshirt or a chinese made red trucker hat, either one of them wouldnt spit on you if you were on fire. In my local area there is a big uproar over local candidates spending upwards of 50000 dollars of their own money to win a job that has a salary that is under 20000. Did they do it because they can make a change? To be honest its a lot more entertaining to watch elections once you have accepted that there is only one team that ever wins..the one who hangs out together at bohemian grove and laughs about taking all your money. Damn it im in a bad mood. I have to completely disagree. Sonia Sotomajor vs Samuel Alito has a significant impact on the life of every single person in the United States and the only reason you have no reason to consider it or believe it is because the Supreme Court has maintained a conservative advantage. The judges that are appointed by President's make a difference at every level. You take away that conservative majority and NOTHING is off the table. Open borders happens the day they get a majority. Steal an election? Who is going to stop the liberals then? Read about what's going on in Florida right now. It's easy to claim "all politicians bad" - and most ARE corrupt. You're right. Many candidates in both parties steal money, lie about their platform and too many become wealthy acting as public servants. But they are no more than same than a Chihuahua and a pitbull. Both will shit on your carpet but only one can kill or maim you. And who a President appoints to run government does make a big difference. How federal law enforcement is allowed to enforce laws is night and say under Eric Holder as AG vs Jeff Sessions. That's not how it should work. The IRS shouldn't be used to attack organizations by a POTUS but it WAS. Take a look at a state like California that was once conservative and prosperous but now has suffered under 25+ years of liberal mob rule. Bankruptcy, terrible schools, overrun with illegal aliens, literally shit (human feces) all over the sidewalk, businesses leaving, men can take a shower with little girls, you can't have a fucking straw for your drink..... is California exactly the same as WV? The short answer is no..lol. wv is nothing like California. It just has a different set of problems. By the way your post is the right way to discuss these issues when you dont agree. This thread had shiwn that any political disagreement quickly goes to name calling and finger pointing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 19:23:17 GMT -5
If you paid your debt to society you should be able to reconnect to it. I dont have a problem with this at all. I personally don't feel that sentencing is harsh enough in most cases so I'd disagree that they've paid their debt to society. Also, this notion that a criminal went to jail to "pay a debt to society" is interesting to me, since the criminal isn't there to pay a debt rather they're there to protect society from their criminal actions. They're there to be punished as a deterrent from commiting crimes again. So does going to prison actually rehabilitate a criminal? Does sitting behind bars for an indiscriminate amount of time instantly turn a rapist or a child molester into a good, law abiding citizen? That's an interesting notion. In most cases, you'll find that time in prison hardens most criminals and makes them more crafty at their crimes. I personally don't feel like an immoral, criminal mind can be rehabilitated. But what the constitution says is another thing. I don't disagree with that at all. The people that I know that went to jail...kept going back. Most are not any better or any closer to being rehabilitated...at all. For myself? Took a total of 3 times, once as a juvenile. Never wanted to go back, completely changed my trajectory in life.
Because of my own experience, and the fact that I did wind up making something of myself down the line...I'd like to give the same chance to the next person. What they do with it is up to them...but the chance is there.
That being said...if you even touch a kid I think you should get your hand chopped off. Literally. I believe in an eye for an eye and far stricter sentences for most crimes. We do need to set a better example and at the same time, get rid of some of this excess baggage we have rotting in our cells. Make people think not just twice, but 20 fucking times before trying to pull some bullshit on someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 19:25:02 GMT -5
That's a noble stance. My stance is that I don't want pedophiles, rapists and murderers voting to determine the shape of my society that I live in. Again, sex offenders and murderers are not included. Stop being dictated by your emotions, you snowflake. I could be wrong and Im not into looking it up right now, but I believe rape and sexual assualt are not included in the 'violent crime' criteria. As crazy as that sounds...but this is crazy land Verbal and I live in.
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Post by ocmmafan on Nov 9, 2018 21:57:40 GMT -5
I personally don't feel that sentencing is harsh enough in most cases so I'd disagree that they've paid their debt to society. Also, this notion that a criminal went to jail to "pay a debt to society" is interesting to me, since the criminal isn't there to pay a debt rather they're there to protect society from their criminal actions. They're there to be punished as a deterrent from commiting crimes again. So does going to prison actually rehabilitate a criminal? Does sitting behind bars for an indiscriminate amount of time instantly turn a rapist or a child molester into a good, law abiding citizen? That's an interesting notion. In most cases, you'll find that time in prison hardens most criminals and makes them more crafty at their crimes. I personally don't feel like an immoral, criminal mind can be rehabilitated. But what the constitution says is another thing. I don't disagree with that at all. The people that I know that went to jail...kept going back. Most are not any better or any closer to being rehabilitated...at all. For myself? Took a total of 3 times, once as a juvenile. Never wanted to go back, completely changed my trajectory in life.
Because of my own experience, and the fact that I did wind up making something of myself down the line...I'd like to give the same chance to the next person. What they do with it is up to them...but the chance is there.
That being said...if you even touch a kid I think you should get your hand chopped off. Literally. I believe in an eye for an eye and far stricter sentences for most crimes. We do need to set a better example and at the same time, get rid of some of this excess baggage we have rotting in our cells. Make people think not just twice, but 20 fucking times before trying to pull some bullshit on someone else.
I'm 2 eyes for one eye.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Nov 9, 2018 22:59:37 GMT -5
God damn the boot licking in this thread is out of control. You guys really need your daddy to protect you, huh?
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 9, 2018 23:27:15 GMT -5
God damn the boot licking in this thread is out of control. You guys really need your daddy to protect you, huh? Lol, a flaming liberal calling someone a boot licker? Talk about an irony overload. “Please big brother, pay for my college! Tell me what to feed my children! Please tell me what else I should be outraged by big brother!” That’s exactly why the liberals are so popular with these millennials still living at home in their late 20’s and 30’s. It’s such an easy transition with big brother taking care of you just like old mom. You can hurl your programmed insults but you are the definition of a boot licker. If you work in construction it’s holding the stop/go sign. After knocking out a long day behind the sign mom tells you she’s proud and put your dirty clothes in the basement.
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Post by verbal0knit on Nov 10, 2018 0:37:52 GMT -5
You guys really need your daddy to protect you, huh? I don't typically refer to any of my firearms as daddy, but maybe some of the other guys do. I dont really know to be honest with you.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Nov 10, 2018 1:17:48 GMT -5
God damn the boot licking in this thread is out of control. You guys really need your daddy to protect you, huh? Lol, a flaming liberal calling someone a boot licker? Talk about an irony overload. “Please big brother, pay for my college! Tell me what to feed my children! Please tell me what else I should be outraged by big brother!” That’s exactly why the liberals are so popular with these millennials still living at home in their late 20’s and 30’s. It’s such an easy transition with big brother taking care of you just like old mom. You can hurl your programmed insults but you are the definition of a boot licker. If you work in construction it’s holding the stop/go sign. After knocking out a long day behind the sign mom tells you she’s proud and put your dirty clothes in the basement. More projections from the resident loser. Go back and look at all the things you (wrongfully) accuse me of. How many of them are true about you that you're trying to project onto me? It seems like a lot.
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 10, 2018 23:55:10 GMT -5
Lol, a flaming liberal calling someone a boot licker? Talk about an irony overload. “Please big brother, pay for my college! Tell me what to feed my children! Please tell me what else I should be outraged by big brother!” That’s exactly why the liberals are so popular with these millennials still living at home in their late 20’s and 30’s. It’s such an easy transition with big brother taking care of you just like old mom. You can hurl your programmed insults but you are the definition of a boot licker. If you work in construction it’s holding the stop/go sign. After knocking out a long day behind the sign mom tells you she’s proud and put your dirty clothes in the basement. More projections from the resident loser. Go back and look at all the things you (wrongfully) accuse me of. How many of them are true about you that you're trying to project onto me? It seems like a lot. I suppose It flew over the forum lefty’s head calling someone a boot licker while they are fighting so the government can have more control over the people. It’s not too surprising I suppose from your other posts.
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Post by Premier on Nov 11, 2018 0:22:26 GMT -5
I voted for the felons right to vote here in Florida.
Yeah, I was worried about all those votes being liberal votes. But fuck man. You did your time. No reason why your voting rights should be taken away from you.
Plus I bet at least a third of them felons are central and northern Florida good old boys. People like Garth. So the Republicans might get some of those votes back.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Nov 11, 2018 3:19:02 GMT -5
More projections from the resident loser. Go back and look at all the things you (wrongfully) accuse me of. How many of them are true about you that you're trying to project onto me? It seems like a lot. I suppose It flew over the forum lefty’s head calling someone a boot licker while they are fighting so the government can have more control over the people. It’s not too surprising I suppose from your other posts. Yeah totally, I'm the big government guy here. You're under education is showing in your reading comprehension, bub.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 11, 2018 6:02:25 GMT -5
I suppose It flew over the forum lefty’s head calling someone a boot licker while they are fighting so the government can have more control over the people. It’s not too surprising I suppose from your other posts. Yeah totally, I'm the big government guy here. You're under education is showing in your reading comprehension, bub. LOL
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Post by slaytan on Nov 11, 2018 6:21:27 GMT -5
I voted for the felons right to vote here in Florida. Yeah, I was worried about all those votes being liberal votes. But fuck man. You did your time. No reason why your voting rights should be taken away from you. Plus I bet at least a third of them felons are central and northern Florida good old boys. People like Garth. So the Republicans might get some of those votes back. Heyyyy, fuck you. I'm not a north Florida hick, felon, or rural. I'm from Tampa, and live in Melbourne. The closest to rural I've ever lived is Orlando Also, felons are 10-1 democrat voters, so you're a fucking idiot to have voted for them to get the vote. Practically every entry level, short term laborer I hire is the felon type, and they're beyond ignorant to the point where everything they believe is false and ludicrous. ACTUAL, RECENT QUOTES FROM DUNDERHEADS ON THE JOBSITE "Ya know, 90% of small businesses have gone under since Trump's tariffs" "Trump doubled taxes on everyone making under 100,000. Just because he hates poor people" "The KKK killed more black people last year than black on black crime did." "It should be illegal to charge more than $500.00 per month for rent, or to turn off power for people who can't pay." "Nobody needs more than 100,000 per year. If you make more than $100k, the government should tax it at 100%. Then nobody would be poor." "Nobody would be poor if minimum wage was 50K/ year." ...and it only gets more ridiculous from there Now these chumps have an equal voice in the governance of our state and country as do you. Thanks alot, schmuck.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Nov 11, 2018 7:07:49 GMT -5
Yeah totally, I'm the big government guy here. You're under education is showing in your reading comprehension, bub. LOL Irony is sweet.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Nov 11, 2018 7:08:42 GMT -5
I voted for the felons right to vote here in Florida. Yeah, I was worried about all those votes being liberal votes. But fuck man. You did your time. No reason why your voting rights should be taken away from you. Plus I bet at least a third of them felons are central and northern Florida good old boys. People like Garth. So the Republicans might get some of those votes back. Heyyyy, fuck you. I'm not a north Florida hick, felon, or rural. I'm from Tampa, and live in Melbourne. The closest to rural I've ever lived is Orlando Also, felons are 10-1 democrat voters, so you're a fucking idiot to have voted for them to get the vote. Practically every entry level, short term laborer I hire is the felon type, and they're beyond ignorant to the point where everything they believe is false and ludicrous. ACTUAL, RECENT QUOTES FROM DUNDERHEADS ON THE JOBSITE "Ya know, 90% of small businesses have gone under since Trump's tariffs" "Trump doubled taxes on everyone making under 100,000. Just because he hates poor people" "The KKK killed more black people last year than black on black crime did." "It should be illegal to charge more than $500.00 per month for rent, or to turn off power for people who can't pay." "Nobody needs more than 100,000 per year. If you make more than $100k, the government should tax it at 100%. Then nobody would be poor." "Nobody would be poor if minimum wage was 50K/ year." ...and it only gets more ridiculous from there Now these chumps have an equal voice in the governance of our state and country as do you. Thanks alot, schmuck. You've never heard any of those things said before.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 11, 2018 10:03:50 GMT -5
Heyyyy, fuck you. I'm not a north Florida hick, felon, or rural. I'm from Tampa, and live in Melbourne. The closest to rural I've ever lived is Orlando Also, felons are 10-1 democrat voters, so you're a fucking idiot to have voted for them to get the vote. Practically every entry level, short term laborer I hire is the felon type, and they're beyond ignorant to the point where everything they believe is false and ludicrous. ACTUAL, RECENT QUOTES FROM DUNDERHEADS ON THE JOBSITE "Ya know, 90% of small businesses have gone under since Trump's tariffs" "Trump doubled taxes on everyone making under 100,000. Just because he hates poor people" "The KKK killed more black people last year than black on black crime did." "It should be illegal to charge more than $500.00 per month for rent, or to turn off power for people who can't pay." "Nobody needs more than 100,000 per year. If you make more than $100k, the government should tax it at 100%. Then nobody would be poor." "Nobody would be poor if minimum wage was 50K/ year." ...and it only gets more ridiculous from there Now these chumps have an equal voice in the governance of our state and country as do you. Thanks alot, schmuck. You've never heard any of those things said before. . Oh dear god I wish.
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Post by verbal0knit on Nov 11, 2018 11:26:01 GMT -5
Heyyyy, fuck you. I'm not a north Florida hick, felon, or rural. I'm from Tampa, and live in Melbourne. The closest to rural I've ever lived is Orlando Also, felons are 10-1 democrat voters, so you're a fucking idiot to have voted for them to get the vote. Practically every entry level, short term laborer I hire is the felon type, and they're beyond ignorant to the point where everything they believe is false and ludicrous. ACTUAL, RECENT QUOTES FROM DUNDERHEADS ON THE JOBSITE "Ya know, 90% of small businesses have gone under since Trump's tariffs" "Trump doubled taxes on everyone making under 100,000. Just because he hates poor people" "The KKK killed more black people last year than black on black crime did." "It should be illegal to charge more than $500.00 per month for rent, or to turn off power for people who can't pay." "Nobody needs more than 100,000 per year. If you make more than $100k, the government should tax it at 100%. Then nobody would be poor." "Nobody would be poor if minimum wage was 50K/ year." ...and it only gets more ridiculous from there Now these chumps have an equal voice in the governance of our state and country as do you. Thanks alot, schmuck. You've never heard any of those things said before. Slaytan is full of shit, he stole those quotes from Ocasio Cortez' 2018 campaign.
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 11, 2018 11:59:09 GMT -5
I suppose It flew over the forum lefty’s head calling someone a boot licker while they are fighting so the government can have more control over the people. It’s not too surprising I suppose from your other posts. Yeah totally, I'm the big government guy here. You're under education is showing in your reading comprehension, bub. Here you go, so this doesn’t fly over your head. Definition of irony 1a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning Calling someone’s intelligence into question while committing a grammatical error. This is another example of irony. You’re such a fucking idiot lol.
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Post by Premier on Nov 12, 2018 1:19:46 GMT -5
I voted for the felons right to vote here in Florida. Yeah, I was worried about all those votes being liberal votes. But fuck man. You did your time. No reason why your voting rights should be taken away from you. Plus I bet at least a third of them felons are central and northern Florida good old boys. People like Garth. So the Republicans might get some of those votes back. Heyyyy, fuck you. I'm not a north Florida hick, felon, or rural. I'm from Tampa, and live in Melbourne. The closest to rural I've ever lived is Orlando Also, felons are 10-1 democrat voters, so you're a fucking idiot to have voted for them to get the vote. Practically every entry level, short term laborer I hire is the felon type, and they're beyond ignorant to the point where everything they believe is false and ludicrous. ACTUAL, RECENT QUOTES FROM DUNDERHEADS ON THE JOBSITE "Ya know, 90% of small businesses have gone under since Trump's tariffs" "Trump doubled taxes on everyone making under 100,000. Just because he hates poor people" "The KKK killed more black people last year than black on black crime did." "It should be illegal to charge more than $500.00 per month for rent, or to turn off power for people who can't pay." "Nobody needs more than 100,000 per year. If you make more than $100k, the government should tax it at 100%. Then nobody would be poor." "Nobody would be poor if minimum wage was 50K/ year." ...and it only gets more ridiculous from there Now these chumps have an equal voice in the governance of our state and country as do you. Thanks alot, schmuck. Wow...all these years I had you pegged as a Florida redneck. My bad man. Lol. But even if they are liberal votes....I just dont see the connection of taking your voting rights because you commited a crime. Especially if they get out. The few of them that will actually get jobs and pay taxes should have a say in the elections. I can see an argument for not allowing felons to have guns or getting certain jobs... .but not allowing them to vote doesn't make sense to me. Can you speak of why that decision was made in the first place; not allowing felons to vote? I did think about it after I voted, but before, I based my decision on what's fair. Not because of Democrats or republicans. Read your quotes. Dumb as fuck for sure. Part of me doesn't want dumb people to vote....but it should be your right. Even if they are dumb as fuck.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 12, 2018 6:30:48 GMT -5
Heyyyy, fuck you. I'm not a north Florida hick, felon, or rural. I'm from Tampa, and live in Melbourne. The closest to rural I've ever lived is Orlando Also, felons are 10-1 democrat voters, so you're a fucking idiot to have voted for them to get the vote. Practically every entry level, short term laborer I hire is the felon type, and they're beyond ignorant to the point where everything they believe is false and ludicrous. ACTUAL, RECENT QUOTES FROM DUNDERHEADS ON THE JOBSITE "Ya know, 90% of small businesses have gone under since Trump's tariffs" "Trump doubled taxes on everyone making under 100,000. Just because he hates poor people" "The KKK killed more black people last year than black on black crime did." "It should be illegal to charge more than $500.00 per month for rent, or to turn off power for people who can't pay." "Nobody needs more than 100,000 per year. If you make more than $100k, the government should tax it at 100%. Then nobody would be poor." "Nobody would be poor if minimum wage was 50K/ year." ...and it only gets more ridiculous from there Now these chumps have an equal voice in the governance of our state and country as do you. Thanks alot, schmuck. Wow...all these years I had you pegged as a Florida redneck. My bad man. Lol. But even if they are liberal votes....I just dont see the connection of taking your voting rights because you commited a crime. Especially if they get out. The few of them that will actually get jobs and pay taxes should have a say in the elections. I can see an argument for not allowing felons to have guns or getting certain jobs... but not allowing them to vote doesn't make sense to me. Can you speak of why that decision was made in the first place; not allowing felons to vote? I did think about it after I voted, but before, I based my decision on what's fair. Not because of Democrats or republicans. Read your quotes. Dumb as fuck for sure. Part of me doesn't want dumb people to vote....but it should be your right. Even if they are dumb as fuck. Voting is not a natural right but a DUTY to be entrusted with. What about the rights of the stupid, to not be BURDENED WITH RESPONSIBILITY? Because it's not good for ANYBODY, including them, that their "voice is heard." I would be most happy with the franchise being so exclusive that I barely, or don't, meet the standards.
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Post by adamg01 on Nov 12, 2018 10:18:27 GMT -5
Wow...all these years I had you pegged as a Florida redneck. My bad man. Lol. But even if they are liberal votes....I just dont see the connection of taking your voting rights because you commited a crime. Especially if they get out. The few of them that will actually get jobs and pay taxes should have a say in the elections. I can see an argument for not allowing felons to have guns or getting certain jobs... but not allowing them to vote doesn't make sense to me. Can you speak of why that decision was made in the first place; not allowing felons to vote? I did think about it after I voted, but before, I based my decision on what's fair. Not because of Democrats or republicans. Read your quotes. Dumb as fuck for sure. Part of me doesn't want dumb people to vote....but it should be your right. Even if they are dumb as fuck. Voting is not a natural right but a DUTY to be entrusted with. What about the rights of the stupid, to not be BURDENED WITH RESPONSIBILITY? Because it's not good for ANYBODY, including them, that their "voice is heard." I would be most happy with the franchise being so exclusive that I barely, or don't, meet the standards. Keep dreaming Garth. What you are implying would be the end of the Democratic Party.
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Post by Comrade Question on Nov 12, 2018 10:21:49 GMT -5
Wow...all these years I had you pegged as a Florida redneck. My bad man. Lol. But even if they are liberal votes....I just dont see the connection of taking your voting rights because you commited a crime. Especially if they get out. The few of them that will actually get jobs and pay taxes should have a say in the elections. I can see an argument for not allowing felons to have guns or getting certain jobs... but not allowing them to vote doesn't make sense to me. Can you speak of why that decision was made in the first place; not allowing felons to vote? I did think about it after I voted, but before, I based my decision on what's fair. Not because of Democrats or republicans. Read your quotes. Dumb as fuck for sure. Part of me doesn't want dumb people to vote....but it should be your right. Even if they are dumb as fuck. Voting is not a natural right but a DUTY to be entrusted with. What about the rights of the stupid, to not be BURDENED WITH RESPONSIBILITY? Because it's not good for ANYBODY, including them, that their "voice is heard." I would be most happy with the franchise being so exclusive that I barely, or don't, meet the standards. The standard being white landowners, right?
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