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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 19, 2018 11:13:20 GMT -5
Thoughts? How many PPVs can this sell and who wins?
I'm thinking this headliner can pull 1.3 million and GSP beats Khabib at 155 by decision.
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Post by daywork on Oct 19, 2018 12:06:19 GMT -5
GSP wins, As the young guys would say "by anyway he wants" LOL
GSP has better cardio, standup, I think his TDD is better then Khabib's TD's, He is quicker.
PPV buys, Don't really care
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Post by locogato11283 on Oct 19, 2018 12:45:17 GMT -5
We’ve never seen GSP at 155. There are a lot of unknowns. I’ll take Khabib.
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Post by daywork on Oct 19, 2018 15:29:37 GMT -5
We’ve never seen GSP at 155. There are a lot of unknowns. I’ll take Khabib. The fight may take place at 165. But either way, GSP would only be that weight for a few hours. GSP is very professional with all the stuff he does in MMA.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Oct 19, 2018 15:42:24 GMT -5
GSP by MAULING. Does 1.3 Million.
KANG'd
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Post by johncfc on Oct 19, 2018 18:49:19 GMT -5
If it sounds at 155 it's interesting. I lean towards GSP, as his style matches up really well with Khabib.
I'd say GSP likely jabs him to death, but he won't finish Khabib. The cut and age might affect GSP's cardio, making the later rounds interesting.
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Post by boboplata on Oct 19, 2018 20:37:32 GMT -5
If it sounds at 155 it's interesting. I lean towards GSP, as his style matches up really well with Khabib. I'd say GSP likely jabs him to death, but he won't finish Khabib. The cut and age might affect GSP's cardio, making the later rounds interesting. Khabib tends to fade to as most wrestlers do when they can't get the td in the latter rds.
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Post by jamesod on Nov 5, 2018 9:45:55 GMT -5
Assuming it's at 155... If it's a five round fight, I'm going with GSP because I don't think either gets a finish and I think GSP has a proven gas tank better than Khabib's, although GSP's weight cut scares me with this prediction. If it's a three round fight, I think I lean toward Khabib primarily based on the possibility of ring rust or weight-cutting struggles for GSP.
This is just hard to get one's brain around. I think the assumption of most fans is GSP is not only going to be better on the feet, but that's he's also going to be bigger and stronger than Khabib and that will allow him to control where the fight is fought. But, at 155, I don't know if anyone is bigger and stronger than Khabib. The guy ragdolls dudes consistently. Dudes who've never before been ragdolled. We're all just so used to seeing GSP at 170 (and recently 185) that it's hard to imagine Khabib and GSP at the same size/weight. But Khabib and GSP are the same height, and Khabib cuts a lot of weight to make 155. I don't see GSP walking into the cage noticeably taller or heavier than Khabib. He'll have reach on him, for sure, but otherwise he won't be the noticeably bigger man. Which is just hard to get my head around.
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Post by MMAJim on Nov 5, 2018 11:41:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure GSP still has a conditioning edge, in fact I think he has lost some considerable conditioning. Of course, that was a one-off fight at 185 after a long lay off and trying to gain weight, so who knows.
I think if we saw this fight, we will wish that it was a younger/prime version of GSP. GSP definitely has the controlled and technical striking game backed by enough wrestling to be the toughest fight of Khabib's life, but I think Khabib might get there in the end. It'd be awkward to see someone ragdolling GSP though, like so hard to envision that you almost can't.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 5, 2018 12:31:41 GMT -5
The punch that dropped Conor would likely KO GSP. I’d definitely take Khabib in this fight.
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Post by johncfc on Nov 5, 2018 17:46:14 GMT -5
The punch that dropped Conor would likely KO GSP. I’d definitely take Khabib in this fight. I doubt it. Has Khabib ever knocked anyone out? If so, it wasn't in the UFC. It's also hard to see a LW knocking out GSP. A juiced-up Hendricks was able to hurt GSP but not come close to finishing him. I think Askren has a better chance of out-grappling GSP than Khabib.
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Post by verbal0knit on Nov 5, 2018 18:19:11 GMT -5
Khabob set that big punch up with his takedowns.
Conor had his hands low expecting the takedown after spending round 1 on the floor.
I'm surprised GPS/Kabob is even being talked about, Georje's just seems so much larger than NurglerMcmedov. I think the size difference is gonna be crazy when they're in the ring.
I think Gsp takes this fight anywhere he wants it. He probably takes Khabib down at will and grinds him out for a UD.
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 7, 2018 10:54:40 GMT -5
How strong will GSP be after the biggest weight cut of his life though?
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Post by johncfc on Nov 7, 2018 14:02:35 GMT -5
How strong will GSP be after the biggest weight cut of his life though? If it happens, it will be at a catchweight. I don't think Dana wants GSP vacating a third belt.
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Post by MMAJim on Nov 7, 2018 17:03:47 GMT -5
How strong will GSP be after the biggest weight cut of his life though? If it happens, it will be at a catchweight. I don't think Dana wants GSP vacating a third belt. Why not? He surely doesn't care about fighters defending belts. That has been established by actions. That being said, catchweight makes a lot of sense for other reasons.
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Post by johncfc on Nov 7, 2018 17:23:25 GMT -5
If it happens, it will be at a catchweight. I don't think Dana wants GSP vacating a third belt. Why not? He surely doesn't care about fighters defending belts. That has been established by actions. That being said, catchweight makes a lot of sense for other reasons. Dana has mentioned it a few times that he doesn't want to give GSP a title shot because he won't defend the belt. It's all about money in the end, but if GSP were to beat Khabib and then bounce, it hurts the value of Khabib or whoever the champ is moving forward. I also think Dana is mildly pissed at GSP for vacating the WW belt, and then doing the same for MW. GSP's contract for the Bisping fight included a title defense clause, which obviously didn't happen because of GSP's health condition. As you said though, a catch weight makes sense for many reasons.
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Post by HumanAgent on Nov 7, 2018 18:49:39 GMT -5
He atleast defended HIS WW a record amount of times. Just bailed on the MW title... Unlike Conor who never defense any of his title once. Yeah I know Conor calls the shots but GSP was the biggest star they had for a while. He'd also bring in more PPVs than other champ. Plus if GSP wins, the fight with Conor would be huge!
Dana is just blowing steam. There are rumors of GSP/Khabib just wonder how serious since the suspensions haven't been handed out.
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Post by MMAJim on Nov 8, 2018 9:38:12 GMT -5
Why not? He surely doesn't care about fighters defending belts. That has been established by actions. That being said, catchweight makes a lot of sense for other reasons. Dana has mentioned it a few times that he doesn't want to give GSP a title shot because he won't defend the belt. It's all about money in the end, but if GSP were to beat Khabib and then bounce, it hurts the value of Khabib or whoever the champ is moving forward. I also think Dana is mildly pissed at GSP for vacating the WW belt, and then doing the same for MW. GSP's contract for the Bisping fight included a title defense clause, which obviously didn't happen because of GSP's health condition. As you said though, a catch weight makes sense for many reasons. I'm basically just saying that Dana White allowed C McG to do it and rewarded him for doing it, so if the $$ is there, who cares. McG didn't even really bother coming up with excuses and never intended to defend his belts anyway. GSP had a bunch of defenses, vacated because PEDs had run amock and the cherry picked a middleweight fight. While I think Dana would prefer defenses, I just think when it really comes down to it, it isn't a high enough priority for him to negotiate hard against it if GSP or Khabib wants it to be for a strap.
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Post by ocmmafan on Nov 8, 2018 15:42:39 GMT -5
He atleast defended HIS WW a record amount of times. Just bailed on the MW title... Unlike Conor who never defense any of his title once. Yeah I know Conor calls the shots but GSP was the biggest star they had for a while. He'd also bring in more PPVs than other champ. Plus if GSP wins, the fight with Conor would be huge! Dana is just blowing steam. There are rumors of GSP/Khabib just wonder how serious since the suspensions haven't been handed out. sneaks in Conor dig. Very OD of you.
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