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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 14:58:25 GMT -5
So, in terms of actually effecting the UFC's bottom line, money wise, and giving Dana White an overall bigger headache in terms of screwing up UFC cards and other important shit, who do you think has caused more problems: Jones or Conor?
Jones has fucked up more times, hit a pregnant lady who he could have killed, I think ruined an entire card at one point for some reason (I forget why), multiple failed drug tests, coke, roids, fighting at weigh ins, etc.
On the other hand, Conor has only messed up this one time, BUT...one could argue this mistake cost the UFC more money because he actually injured fighters like Chiesa, brought a mob of 20 guys and just generally caused mayhem on UFC premises.
I think I'd say this one mistake will probably have cost the UFC more money than any one mistake Jones has made, but if you add up all of Jones' fuck ups vs just this one fuck up by Conor, I still think Jones takes the cake, and I still think they'll have Conor fight again because for all the problem's he's caused it's just going to make more drama and money for the UFC when he comes back.
I mean the shit will sell like crazy if/when he comes back and fights Khabib or whoever has the belt.
So, if you had to compare them, in terms of who has really caused bigger problems for Dana and the UFC, money wise and in terms or really just screwing up the UFC's plans, who do you think has messed up worse, Jones or Conor?
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 7, 2018 15:03:06 GMT -5
The UFC doesn't give a fuck about what Conor did. They will just use it as pre-fight hype with Khabib.
Jones has still cost the UFC more money with his bullshit.
And Conor makes them more money, so this will be swept under the rug.
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Post by TheStorm on Apr 7, 2018 15:08:23 GMT -5
Didn’t Jones kind of blow UFC 200?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 16:03:25 GMT -5
The UFC doesn't give a fuck about what Conor did. They will just use it as pre-fight hype with Khabib. Jones has still cost the UFC more money with his bullshit. And Conor makes them more money, so this will be swept under the rug. I definitely do think Dana cares what Conor did. Chiesa may end up suing for being cut with glass and has his fight canceled because of what Conor did and he's basically fucked up an entire card and lost them money. Sure, it'll end up being good for hype later on, but if you think Dana wasn't pissed about this I think that's crazy. You think Dana just shrugged if off and doesn't mind that Connor came in with 20 hooligans and threw like a 70lbs hand truck at Khabib's bus, assaulted fighters and sliced Chiesa and Ray Borg up so they can't fight? I guarantee you Dana was not happy when he found out about this and there are already articles saying Dana is unhappy and that Conor might never fight again...though I don't believe that at all and think that he will.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 16:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 7, 2018 16:14:17 GMT -5
You're right.. Dana has never lied to or misled us before.
My fault.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 16:16:37 GMT -5
You're right.. Dana has never lied to or misled us before. My fault. He would lie that he's upset and that he considers it the worst event to happen in UFC history? What reason would he have to lie about it? What would he have to gain by pretending he's upset about something he's not upset about it? Listen, it's obvious that later on this will be a great way to make money but if you think that RIGHT NOW Dana isn't pissed and that he'd just decide to say that he considers this the worst thing to happen in UFC history for no reason at all? Yeah, I'd say that makes zero sense. Dana doesn't want fights canceled because of other fighters causing them injuries outside of the ring and potential pending lawsuits. Use your head dude.
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 7, 2018 16:19:08 GMT -5
Like I said... Dana DGAF about a few fighters that no one gives a shit about. Those guys can and will sue Conor for their money, so it's no skin off his ass.
All Dana is seeing is HUGE PPV numbers for the Khabib/Conor card and this will be used 100% as pre-fight build up.
Yes, I think he would say things that aren't the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 16:21:00 GMT -5
Like I said... Dana DGAF about a few fighters that no one gives a shit about. Those guys can and will sue Conor for their money, so it's no skin off his ass. All Dana is seeing is HUGE PPV numbers for the Khabib/Conor card and this will be used 100% as pre-fight build up. Yes, I think he would say things that aren't the truth. Conor could see up to seven years in prison according to this article. He might never even have the chance to fight again even if Dana wants him to. In the short term, Dana is not happy about this at all. There's no way he'd be glad about it. Conor will have a lot of legal hoops to jump through to even make it back to the UFC now and it's entirely possible that he might never get to fight again because of it even if Dana were happy to have him back.
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 7, 2018 16:37:29 GMT -5
1. You're dumb as fuck if you think he will see any jail time. 2. Even if the USA told him he could never come back, he can still fight in any other country for the UFC. 3. You're dumb as fuck.
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Post by peAk on Apr 7, 2018 18:57:29 GMT -5
The UFC doesn't give a fuck about what Conor did. They will just use it as pre-fight hype with Khabib. Jones has still cost the UFC more money with his bullshit. And Conor makes them more money, so this will be swept under the rug. I completely agree with Loco I mean, UFC is already using this bus footage in their promo stuff for the fight this weekend. You bet your ass they will be using the hell out of this to promote Conor's next fight.
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Post by Premier on Apr 8, 2018 0:24:11 GMT -5
Conor had made the UFC a lot more money than what they lost this week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 0:29:12 GMT -5
1. You're dumb as fuck if you think he will see any jail time. 2. Even if the USA told him he could never come back, he can still fight in any other country for the UFC. 3. You're dumb as fuck. You don't know anything about legal matters and he could still face jail time. And there is ZERO chance that Dana's first reaction upon hearing the news was to jump for joy. His first reaction was DEFINITELY to be pissed off, and because you think otherwise, YOU ARE STUPID.
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 9:22:40 GMT -5
Halfway through Dana basically says he DGAF about the Conor thing and compared to what goes on in other sports he will take a dolly through a window any day.
Also says the UFC looks better at the end of this week than the beginning.
LOL. Told you.
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 10:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 10:49:38 GMT -5
#andstill #smaterthantoehold #winning
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 17:41:25 GMT -5
Halfway through Dana basically says he DGAF about the Conor thing and compared to what goes on in other sports he will take a dolly through a window any day. Also says the UFC looks better at the end of this week than the beginning. LOL. Told you. When did that happen? I didn't hear it. I still think he wasn't happy when he heard the news, and I'm sticking with that. There's no way his first reaction upon hearing it was happiness. Maybe later he realized he could turn it to his advantage, but there's no way in hell he wanted that shit to go down.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 17:42:59 GMT -5
#andstill #smaterthantoehold #winning Even IF you guessed right in this situation (and I still think Dana's first reaction was not to be happy) you have said so many stupid things so many times I am WAY smarter than you. I remember you said like a year back you don't believe in global climate change cause sometimes it's cold where you live ahahahaa. Yeah, I'm sticking with my stance that I am still WAY smarter than you lol.
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 17:45:45 GMT -5
I'm in MO and it's snowing right now.. Tell me global warming is real. Fuck out of here with that shit.
We just had one of the coldest winters in a long time.
And I was right about the Conor situation because I'm right 103% of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 17:48:17 GMT -5
Halfway through Dana basically says he DGAF about the Conor thing and compared to what goes on in other sports he will take a dolly through a window any day. Also says the UFC looks better at the end of this week than the beginning. LOL. Told you. Never once in that article did Dana say he doesn't care. In fact, I saw a link to an article where Dana said he's annoyed that Conor showed no remorse. Find for me a quote where Dana said he doesn't care one bit that he sliced some fighters up and brought a mob of 20 guys to fuck shit up. And also, let me know how it sometimes being cold where you live proves that global climate change is not occurring hahah.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 17:51:22 GMT -5
I'm in MO and it's snowing right now.. Tell me global warming is real. Fuck out of here with that shit. We just had one of the coldest winters in a long time. And I was right about the Conor situation because I'm right 103% of the time. You are such a moron. Global warming is the old term and global climate change the new one, and just because it is cold where you live means nothing. In fact, the fact that it's often colder in months when it shouldn't be is even more proof that global climate change is occurring cause it shows one extreme and guess what genius, extremes of one climate result in a rebound effect with warmer temperatures happening at other times. It was fucking 75 degrees for like 4 days here in February this year and also was a few years back. This just goes to show how dumb you are. Now I feel super confident that I can ignore your posts and laugh them off. Cold in your part of the country equals no climate changes hahahhaaha....tell that to anyone with any brains and see them laugh at you as well. I bet you don't even have a college degree, and you still never showed me a Dana quote where he said he doesn't care.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 18:30:54 GMT -5
Skip to 1:50 where the guy says " Dana is very pissed off" then 1:54 where he says "they are very upset about this". youtu.be/nC6CH9U2NuE
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 18:36:08 GMT -5
I do have a college degree and if you think Dana cares that Conor did this, you're still way dumb. Dana brags this was a great event and better off at the end of this week then the end. "At the end of the day there's a lot worse that goes on in all the other sports, so, I'll take a dolly to a window any day." Watch the video yourself.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ayr29b6Wk#stillwinning #hahaidiot #dosomeresearchbeforeyoutrytofuckwithme
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 18:36:46 GMT -5
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 18:54:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 18:54:51 GMT -5
God Loco i am now even MORE convinced of how dumb you are that I listened to that.
Your listening comprehension is SEVERELY impaired, I mean on RETARD level.
Let me explain to you what Dana explained about how he felt using his words but first I'll explain a bit in my own:
In a nutshell, while Dana said he was happy with the amount of money the event made (which is NOT necessarily to do with Conor cause he didn't fight on it at all...), he was saying he regrets what happened with Conor, that he wished it hadn't happened, that he'd have changed it if he could BUT...that much worse happens in other sports so it's not as bad as it could be.
He's trying to make a positive of a negative situation, but it's VERY CLEAR he is NOT happy about what happened, he's just happy that this event did well.
Here are his words and I'll bold the important parts so your dumb ass can understand, between about 8:45--9:45 he says the company is in better shape than at the beginning of the week BUT that he's NOT happy about what happened and he says several times he'd have changed it if he could.
"In a perfect world it would be great if Conor didn’t show up and do that and obviously I didn’t see that coming or I would have tried very hard to prevent that BUT we broke a record tonight…
Interviewer: is there any tangential damage that causes by what happened the other day?
Dana: What happened happened we can’t change that unfortunately…people say to me this looks so bad for the sport and I agree this doesn’t look good for the sport but at the end of the days there’s a lot worse that happens in other sports so I’ll take a dolly through a window anyday".
He's making light of a bad situation and he's happy the event sold well, but he's NOT happy about what Conor did.
Just because "worse happens in other sports" doesn't mean he wishes it hadn't happened, and he clearly says he wished it hadn't.
Do you understand the concept of something good happening "in spite of something bad"??
Cause that's what happened here.
The event sold well, but NOT because of what Conor did cause he wasn't on the card, and Dana's not happy about it, but he's dealing with the situation anyway.
You see where I bolded the word "unfortunately" moron?
That word means "you wish something hadn't happened"...as in, the opposite of good or "fortunate".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 19:07:37 GMT -5
Now watch this interview moron. This whole thing is different ways of Dana expressing how unhappy he was about the situation. In a minute I'll bold some of the important parts: youtu.be/voI3QVdR16A
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 19:07:39 GMT -5
I give you a C- for effort.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 19:08:17 GMT -5
I give you a C- for effort. No, I give you an F for poor listening comprehension. Now go watch the interview above.
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Post by locogato11283 on Apr 8, 2018 19:08:46 GMT -5
You do realize that no one has agreed with you right?
Every single person that has posted in this thread aside from me or you, has agreed with me.
Haha.
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