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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 14:30:33 GMT -5
Surprised no one else is watching because Poirer vs Pettis should be a very good fight, as well as Matt Brown vs Diego. Dodson totally tapped to a guillotine after that final bell against Moraes but pretended he didn't. Of course, it was still after the bell so it didn't count (Moraes won the UD anyway), but I'm pretty sure he was pretending he never tapped at all. Then the whole crowd booed excessively when Moraes got the split decision in an extremely close fight that honestly could have gone either way, but from their reaction you'd have thought it was some horrible robbery. I was swear, some people just hate foreigners, but then again, it is a Navy base they are fighting at. That shouldn't matter though, I mean, just cause you are in the military shouldn't blindside you to the fact that it could have gone either way, and with Moraes ending the fight how he did with Dodson in a locked guillotine and everyone knowing he tapped after the fact, I think they made the right decision. I think the tap was because Dodson heard the bell and was sick f being choked. Bad optics, especially to the judges because you’re telling them that you were indeed being choked out and couldn’t free yourself I guess that's possible, but not sure how likely. I'd assume most fighters wouldn't tap and would just wait the extra 2 seconds for the ref to free them, but then again, maybe not because 2 extra seconds of being choked sucks. Either way, he was stuck in a super tight guillotine he may not have escaped, and he and his corner acted like he was robbed in what was a very close fight. It's annoying when a fight could have gone either way and goes to a split decision and one side acts like they were robbed. Ending the fight that way, tap or not, didn't leave a good impression, and I think it might have made the difference in who won that round.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 12, 2017 14:53:17 GMT -5
I think the tap was because Dodson heard the bell and was sick f being choked. Bad optics, especially to the judges because you’re telling them that you were indeed being choked out and couldn’t free yourself I guess that's possible, but not sure how likely. I'd assume most fighters wouldn't tap and would just wait the extra 2 seconds for the ref to free them, but then again, maybe not because 2 extra seconds of being choked sucks. Either way, he was stuck in a super tight guillotine he may not have escaped, and he and his corner acted like he was robbed in what was a very close fight. It's annoying when a fight could have gone either way and goes to a split decision and one side acts like they were robbed. Ending the fight that way, tap or not, didn't leave a good impression, and I think it might have made the difference in who won that round. The tap makes it ten times as likely to have made the difference. It totally sells it to the judges
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 12, 2017 15:13:47 GMT -5
Are you really THAT excited about a card packed full of basically washed up fighters? Aside from Pettis/Porier, who on that card will ever see a shot at the title? MAYBE Sage, maybe. Dude, all the fighters you are excited to see in the Bellator HW tournament are washed up worse than last night's fighters. The Bellator HW division is almost entirely UFC burnouts who only got their place their BECAUSE of the UFC. They are the quintessential "B-League". Besides that, it doesn't matter who's washed up if the fight is great, and obviously you don't know how good it was because you didn't watch it. Poirer/Pettis were bathed in blood, switching multiple positions over and over on the ground, TONS of sick elbows and great submission attempts. It was a very exciting fight that you obviously missed. And what about last week's card with 3 titles changing hands? Those aren't "washed up" fighters. You just like to hate the UFC and love Bellator over it for some weird reason, like just to be different or something like that, when obviously the UFC is the better organization and most people know it. I hit the record button at the start of the fights and haven't even looked at them. I'm just not that interested in so called "stacked" cards with guys who will never see a title shot. Half of the guys on the main card are considering retirement. I don't hate the UFC, but let's be realistic here.. For the "A" league organization, they sure haven't shown up much this year. UFC217 was by far the best card of the year. None of the others have even come close. With a roster like the UFC has, you and everyone else should expect much better. I guess that's what happens when you put 99% of your promotion behind 3-4 fighters and basically say fuck everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 15:20:17 GMT -5
I guess I get what you are saying, but there's been a lot of really good fights lately and you are missing them, and you say we should "expect better", but you don't know what you are missing...
I should watch Bellator more too though.
What days and times is it on?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 15:23:39 GMT -5
I guess that's possible, but not sure how likely. I'd assume most fighters wouldn't tap and would just wait the extra 2 seconds for the ref to free them, but then again, maybe not because 2 extra seconds of being choked sucks. Either way, he was stuck in a super tight guillotine he may not have escaped, and he and his corner acted like he was robbed in what was a very close fight. It's annoying when a fight could have gone either way and goes to a split decision and one side acts like they were robbed. Ending the fight that way, tap or not, didn't leave a good impression, and I think it might have made the difference in who won that round. The tap makes it ten times as likely to have made the difference. It totally sells it to the judges Yeah, I was thinking how it's funny that the guy would tap after the bell and act like it should make no difference since it was after the bell, but every single fight you see guys raising their arms all the way up to the decision in order to influence the refs (not a bad idea either because people can be influenced by that kind of thing) even when they know they lost.
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Post by daywork on Nov 12, 2017 15:29:17 GMT -5
I was flipping between the fights and football. Really happy to see AA get a win, Never been a Diego fan but he really should retire. Main event was a very good fight, Dustin is just someone that I never think about.
I was sad to see John Dodson lose.
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 138184551 Nov 11 06:35 PM MU
STRAIGHT BET (MARLON MORAES vs JOHN DODSON -) [24350] JOHN DODSON -130 (MARLON MORAES vrs JOHN DODSON) 130 / 100 -130 LOSE LOSE 11/11/2017 06:19 PM
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Post by locogato11283 on Nov 12, 2017 15:39:22 GMT -5
I guess I get what you are saying, but there's been a lot of really good fights lately and you are missing them, and you say we should "expect better", but you don't know what you are missing... I should watch Bellator more too though. What days and times is it on? I don't watch TV, but I see ads for UFC and Bellator events on both Facebook and Instagram equally. Many times I can't watch the events live, so I record them and watch the ones I am interested in. Good spot for Bellator info: bellator.spike.com/Sorry, I'm just not that interested in watching Clay Guida and Joe Lauzon fight.. Same with Diego and AA. I'm cool with "superfights" but I'm not falling for a "stacked" card of guys that aren't any better than anyone in Bellator.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 15:58:50 GMT -5
Come on man, you know that most of the fighters are better than most in Bellator, or maybe you disagree, whatever.
I DVR a lot of them too and take a long time to get to them, but there's a lot of great fights you are missing.
You would only have had to watch one minute to see the Guida knockout cause it was so fast.
There's a reason the B-League guys end up in Bellator and it's because they go there once the UFC no longer wants them.
But Bellator does have some very good fights and is exciting.
A good fight can happen even in the lowest level orgs, so not wanting to watch cause you think a guy won't become champ makes no sense to me.
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Post by peAk on Nov 12, 2017 16:44:32 GMT -5
I think Anthony Pettis is the new Brandon Vera
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:48:07 GMT -5
Just noticed on facebook that today is the 24th anniversary of UFC 1.
I actually saw it live back then as a kid.
Crazy.
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Post by TheStorm on Nov 12, 2017 17:37:48 GMT -5
I think Anthony Pettis is the new Brandon Vera Sad because I liked both of them. Very exciting, flashy styles that anticipated KOs, and both fell short.
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Post by slaytan on Nov 12, 2017 19:35:36 GMT -5
Dude, all the fighters you are excited to see in the Bellator HW tournament are washed up worse than last night's fighters. The Bellator HW division is almost entirely UFC burnouts who only got their place their BECAUSE of the UFC. They are the quintessential "B-League". Besides that, it doesn't matter who's washed up if the fight is great, and obviously you don't know how good it was because you didn't watch it. Poirer/Pettis were bathed in blood, switching multiple positions over and over on the ground, TONS of sick elbows and great submission attempts. It was a very exciting fight that you obviously missed. And what about last week's card with 3 titles changing hands? Those aren't "washed up" fighters. You just like to hate the UFC and love Bellator over it for some weird reason, like just to be different or something like that, when obviously the UFC is the better organization and most people know it. I hit the record button at the start of the fights and haven't even looked at them. I'm just not that interested in so called "stacked" cards with guys who will never see a title shot. Half of the guys on the main card are considering retirement. I don't hate the UFC, but let's be realistic here.. For the "A" league organization, they sure haven't shown up much this year. UFC217 was by far the best card of the year. None of the others have even come close. With a roster like the UFC has, you and everyone else should expect much better. I guess that's what happens when you put 99% of your promotion behind 3-4 fighters and basically say fuck everyone else. Meh, I don’t much care how legit the fighters are... I mean, yes I do, but I was happier to watch Diego vs Brown last night for free than I would have been happy to watch GSP vs Bisping for $60
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 13, 2017 12:26:01 GMT -5
Just noticed on facebook that today is the 24th anniversary of UFC 1. I actually saw it live back then as a kid. Crazy. No you didnt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 16:23:29 GMT -5
Just noticed on facebook that today is the 24th anniversary of UFC 1. I actually saw it live back then as a kid. Crazy. No you didnt. Oh you are right, I am just making it up. Except I did, and I was 13 years old, doing Kenpo, Karate at the time wanting to be the next Karate Kid lol. You are a troll, and an extremely annoying one. Then again, you are probably just fucking with me and believe me anyways. There's no reason to lie about something like that because it's not an accomplishment to be alive and see a flyer in your mail and order a PPV, and I am sure I was just one of thousands. Anyone who gets anything out of convincing people to believe they watched something on their TV is pretty sad. Believe it or not, I think I STILL have the old VHSs of all those early UFCs that I taped some where in my house. I still remember finding the little palm-sized flyer on the desk that said: "Jiu-Jitsu vs Savate vs Draka vs Sumo vs Karate, etc" I saw ALL the early UFCs live, like all the way up until the dark ages when my area couldn't get them anymore somewhere around UFCs 20-35 or so give or take. I saw like 1-20 all live, rooted against Royce, and was bummed as shit when UFC 4 went out all across several states so I didn't get to see Royce triangle Severn but then rooted for Royce for UFC 5 and that was what convinced me to take my first BJJ lesson at age 15 in NYC with Craig Kukuk at Renzo's old school, then started regularly training at age 16. Took seminars with Royce during those early years, all that shit. Not that it amounted to all that much as I am still nothing to write home about even as a Brown belt in my own opinion. But yes, I saw it live, so pass the polygraph lol (always wanted to see if it could fool one of those actually...)
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 13, 2017 16:49:42 GMT -5
Oh you are right, I am just making it up. Except I did, and I was 13 years old, doing Kenpo, Karate at the time wanting to be the next Karate Kid lol. You are a troll, and an extremely annoying one. Then again, you are probably just fucking with me and believe me anyways. There's no reason to lie about something like that because it's not an accomplishment to be alive and see a flyer in your mail and order a PPV, and I am sure I was just one of thousands. Anyone who gets anything out of convincing people to believe they watched something on their TV is pretty sad. Believe it or not, I think I STILL have the old VHSs of all those early UFCs that I taped some where in my house. I still remember finding the little palm-sized flyer on the desk that said: "Jiu-Jitsu vs Savate vs Draka vs Sumo vs Karate, etc" I saw ALL the early UFCs live, like all the way up until the dark ages when my area couldn't get them anymore somewhere around UFCs 20-35 or so give or take. I saw like 1-20 all live, rooted against Royce, and was bummed as shit when UFC 4 went out all across several states so I didn't get to see Royce triangle Severn but then rooted for Royce for UFC 5 and that was what convinced me to take my first BJJ lesson at age 15 in NYC with Craig Kukuk at Renzo's old school, then started regularly training at age 16. Took seminars with Royce during those early years, all that shit. Not that it amounted to all that much as I am still nothing to write home about even as a Brown belt in my own opinion. But yes, I saw it live, so pass the polygraph lol (always wanted to see if it could fool one of those actually...) Nope.
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Post by HumanAgent on Nov 13, 2017 16:55:03 GMT -5
I was at UFC 1 live! Iwas supposed to be in the corner of Art Jimmerson, didn't get a chance to. I misplaced one of his gloves... Art got mad and took my credentials. Sad day in the Agency household.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 13, 2017 16:59:14 GMT -5
I was at UFC 1 live! Iwas supposed to be in the corner of Art Jimmerson, didn't get a chance to. I misplaced one of his gloves... Art got mad and took my credentials. Sad day in the Agency household. No shit?! Wow what an incredible missed opportunity... did they let you watch from the stands? I think it's pretty halarious that HumanAgent's story was not only told in 3 short sentences, but it's also more believable and interesting than that wall of BS that toehold posted
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 17:02:21 GMT -5
Oh you are right, I am just making it up. Except I did, and I was 13 years old, doing Kenpo, Karate at the time wanting to be the next Karate Kid lol. You are a troll, and an extremely annoying one. Then again, you are probably just fucking with me and believe me anyways. There's no reason to lie about something like that because it's not an accomplishment to be alive and see a flyer in your mail and order a PPV, and I am sure I was just one of thousands. Anyone who gets anything out of convincing people to believe they watched something on their TV is pretty sad. Believe it or not, I think I STILL have the old VHSs of all those early UFCs that I taped some where in my house. I still remember finding the little palm-sized flyer on the desk that said: "Jiu-Jitsu vs Savate vs Draka vs Sumo vs Karate, etc" I saw ALL the early UFCs live, like all the way up until the dark ages when my area couldn't get them anymore somewhere around UFCs 20-35 or so give or take. I saw like 1-20 all live, rooted against Royce, and was bummed as shit when UFC 4 went out all across several states so I didn't get to see Royce triangle Severn but then rooted for Royce for UFC 5 and that was what convinced me to take my first BJJ lesson at age 15 in NYC with Craig Kukuk at Renzo's old school, then started regularly training at age 16. Took seminars with Royce during those early years, all that shit. Not that it amounted to all that much as I am still nothing to write home about even as a Brown belt in my own opinion. But yes, I saw it live, so pass the polygraph lol (always wanted to see if it could fool one of those actually...) Nope. Ok, I give a shit if you believe me. I'll tell you, if I was lying I'd feel sorry for myself for getting such a kick out of convincing people online I watched something on TV. That would be a sure sign I'd need a bit more ambition these days...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 17:05:30 GMT -5
I was at UFC 1 live! Iwas supposed to be in the corner of Art Jimmerson, didn't get a chance to. I misplaced one of his gloves... Art got mad and took my credentials. Sad day in the Agency household. No shit?! Wow what an incredible missed opportunity... did they let you watch from the stands? I think it's pretty halarious that HumanAgent's story was not only told in 3 short sentences, but it's also more believable and interesting than that wall of BS that toehold posted You do kind of realize that there's only 2 requirements for my story being true right?: 1) being alive at the time 2) seeing a flyer and ordering an event (plus having like $24.99 or whatever). Not exactly a tall tale lol. Whatever, keep a trollin...
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Nov 13, 2017 17:10:35 GMT -5
No shit?! Wow what an incredible missed opportunity... did they let you watch from the stands? I think it's pretty halarious that HumanAgent's story was not only told in 3 short sentences, but it's also more believable and interesting than that wall of BS that toehold posted You do kind of realize that there's only 2 requirements for my story being true right?: 1) being alive at the time 2) seeing a flyer and ordering an event (plus having like $24.99 or whatever). Not exactly a tall tale lol. Whatever, keep a trollin... Everyone knows you didnt have $24.99 back then. Just stop already!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 17:13:54 GMT -5
You do kind of realize that there's only 2 requirements for my story being true right?: 1) being alive at the time 2) seeing a flyer and ordering an event (plus having like $24.99 or whatever). Not exactly a tall tale lol. Whatever, keep a trollin... Everyone knows you didnt have $24.99 back then. Just stop already! Ok lol.
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Post by peAk on Nov 13, 2017 23:28:31 GMT -5
I think Anthony Pettis is the new Brandon Vera Sad because I liked both of them. Very exciting, flashy styles that anticipated KOs, and both fell short. Same here. Both have/had a ton of potential and talent but kind of crack when the going gets tough. Both jumped around weight classes trying to reestablish themselves only to come up short.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 0:11:29 GMT -5
The heavyweight Australian guy that barely made 265 is no joke. That flying knee was sick
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 0:11:54 GMT -5
Muhammad calling out Colby
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