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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 6, 2020 14:16:55 GMT -5
Who am I supposed to point out hypocrisy amongst left wing ideology here to? The only people married to an ideology are the trumpers here. You think that just because I point out the flaws and argue doesn't mean my belief system is the exact opposite. I like talking to/debating anyone on anything. It's fun to play devil's advocate and let people talk themselves into some dumb shit. And/or I learn things, even if it's just what makes someone tick. So what dumb shit have I said as you tried to goad me into saying dumb shit? Our biggest disagreement is based on what we accept as fact. I do not believe that federal agents are out grabbing people off the streets at random. I have not seen any evidence to prove that to be the case. I also don't think that Donald Trump is many of the things that the media tries to portray him as. Often, and this might be my own bias given the perception I have of the shenanigans the Democrats have engaged in for the last 3 years, I see the left accusing Trump of what they are trying to do. And the only evidence that he's trying to do any of it is their word. But I can't take the word of people who are so hell-bent on gaining power that they are willing to try and manipulate the country's perception of reality.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 6, 2020 16:07:21 GMT -5
In this particular case it was the 'you need to think about yourself and vote only for what's best for your bottom line' rhetoric. Now, granted, in this crowd being selfish and having a famine mentality about the world seems to be celebrated. But among normally functioning members of society that mindset doesn't get you far in a lot of aspects of life.
Oh yeah, and don't simplify your stance on authoritarian action from the feds. You have defended crowd control, unconstitutional arrests, and argued for more action (via some other people's opinions, probably why they slip your mind so easily).
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 6, 2020 16:10:48 GMT -5
And I get it. You have elevated trump to demigod status in your world. But the truth is, he's going down as a lame duck. Especially if he doesn't circumvent the election. I know it's all fake news to you, but the investigations alone will be remembered. Not to mention he has been impeached, just like Bill Clinton. I know trump likes to claim victory and it was all a hoax because he wasn't ousted due to partisanship. But the impeachment isn't getting wiped from his record.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 6, 2020 18:09:11 GMT -5
In this particular case it was the 'you need to think about yourself and vote only for what's best for your bottom line' rhetoric. Now, granted, in this crowd being selfish and having a famine mentality about the world seems to be celebrated. But among normally functioning members of society that mindset doesn't get you far in a lot of aspects of life. Perhaps someday you'll reach a point when you realize that just thinking about yourself is the best thing for your own family. I did not defend crowd control. I defended the dispersing of riots. If there is a warrant for your arrest, your arrest is 100% constitutional. And considering that the courthouse in Portland was subject to firework assaults for weeks on end, I'm surprised they let it go on for as long as they did. So basically the places where you thought I was saying dumb shit was actually just because you can't see what's really going on. Because no federal agents were used to disperse peaceful protests. No unconstitutional arrests were conducted. If they were, you'd already be reading headlines about the lawsuits that those arrests would result in. So it looks like you probably could have learned quite a bit in this thread if you had actually been paying attention instead of just trying to be right.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 6, 2020 18:14:07 GMT -5
And I get it. You have elevated trump to demigod status in your world. But the truth is, he's going down as a lame duck. Especially if he doesn't circumvent the election. I know it's all fake news to you, but the investigations alone will be remembered. Not to mention he has been impeached, just like Bill Clinton. I know trump likes to claim victory and it was all a hoax because he wasn't ousted due to partisanship. But the impeachment isn't getting wiped from his record. This is garbage. Donald Trump is not a God or a demigod or anything related to God status. He's a guy who ran for president and won. I don't think there is anything Divine about him I just believe that he understands economics better than any of his predecessors and I believe that most of the gains that I have made in the last three and a half years would not have occurred if he was not the president. It's hard to acquire wealth in the middle of a World War if you're not a Rothschild. People will remember the investigations that led to nothing and they will remember who started those investigations. The sad reality that you are going to come to accept on November 4th is that all of those polls that were telling you that Trump was losing were full of shit. Possibly even more so than the polls from 2016. Silent majority is bigger now than it was then. And if you think cancel culture didn't have anything to do with that, well I'd say you just must not have been paying attention. This election is going to be a referendum on the ongoing culture war in this nation. The side that you seem to be taking up for disguises their racism as tolerance and wants to remove more of your freedom than the Republicans ever would. You're never going to see the Republicans coming for your guns. You're never going to see the Republicans coming for your wealth. You're never going to see the Republicans attempting some lame-ass wealth distribution garbage either. For someone who seems to try and push personal responsibility it is completely irrational that you also side with the party that says personal responsibility is dead and you should just leave all of the decisions in your life to us. Because we know better than you what is best for you.
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Post by floater on Aug 6, 2020 19:37:07 GMT -5
1960’s documentary, never has been more relevant than today. Watch now before YouTube pulls youtu.be/BKiupnMunSEThanks for posting this Garth. It starts out slow and weird, and is quite repetitive... but EVERYONE needs to see this in its entirety. Warning NSFW, rated R+, really scary shit... I say share this with everyone you know. PS too bad It wasn’t shorter.
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 6, 2020 21:10:39 GMT -5
Ok Garth. I watched it. The similarities to today are rather glaring.
I did have one thought that you may not like though. MLK was a useful idiot, not a commie mastermind.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 7, 2020 5:00:07 GMT -5
Ok Garth. I watched it. The similarities to today are rather glaring. I did have one thought that you may not like though. MLK was a useful idiot, not a commie mastermind. I have never called MLK anything remotely resembling “mastermind” except ironically. The only superlatives I’ve used for him have to do with despicableness or degeneracy
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 7, 2020 9:01:11 GMT -5
Bad Corona Response. ( for all of the screaming about authoritarianism and Trump, the media never bothered to point out the incongruence of how they were declaring the responses of authoritarian Nations to be far superior to the responses of this nation. Despite the fact that they claim that this nation is being run by an authoritian.) Which authoritarian countries are the media praising as "far superior" to the US response? Canada? Germany? New Zealand? Australia? South Korea? Japan? Iceland? Taiwan? In terms of deaths relative to population size, the American response to COVID-19 has been the worst of nearly every "free" or "wealthy" nation on earth, but are you implying that only authoritarian nations have done better? Or are you saying only authoritarian nations get praised by the media? Who even is "the media" here? Is Fox News (the most watched news network in America) not also part of "the media?" Where's the praise for these "far superior" authoritarian countries? www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/world/meanwhile-in-america-may-7-intl/index.htmlwww.cnn.com/2020/07/24/world/coronavirus-response-resurgence-wave-intl/index.htmlwww.cnn.com/2020/04/16/world/coronavirus-response-lessons-learned-intl/index.htmlAlso, by which meaningful measure has Trump's COVID-19 response not been absolute dog shit?
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 8, 2020 11:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by slaytan on Aug 8, 2020 13:29:50 GMT -5
Bad Corona Response. ( for all of the screaming about authoritarianism and Trump, the media never bothered to point out the incongruence of how they were declaring the responses of authoritarian Nations to be far superior to the responses of this nation. Despite the fact that they claim that this nation is being run by an Also, by which meaningful measure has Trump's COVID-19 response not been absolute dog shit? tell us what you would have done and we’ll measure against that
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 9, 2020 14:54:26 GMT -5
Also, by which meaningful measure has Trump's COVID-19 response not been absolute dog shit? How about against the initial projections? The ones that came from Fauci & Co that said we were going to have 200,000 tp 1.7 deaths in the US, you forgetful sack of shit? How we doin against that? (Here's where you STFU for another week) www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.html
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 9, 2020 17:51:53 GMT -5
Let's choose some models from thin air from people who had no clue what was coming, and compare to that. All in an attempt to make trunp not look like the bumblebutt he is.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 9, 2020 18:14:24 GMT -5
Let's choose some models from thin air from people who had no clue what was coming, and compare to that. All in an attempt to make trunp not look like the bumblebutt he is. . I ask you to point out what you would have done better. Should be easy for you to do, right?
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 9, 2020 21:52:14 GMT -5
Let's choose some models from thin air from people who had no clue what was coming, and compare to that. All in an attempt to make trunp not look like the bumblebutt he is. . I ask you to point out what you would have done better. Should be easy for you to do, right? It would have been real easy. Let the experts do the talking, don't go out of your way to muddy the waters and politicize he issue immediately. Whatever guidelines the people who had some semblance of an idea what they were talking about would be suggested and try to unite the country instead of continuing to needle and divide via my rhetoric at every possible moment. So basically do something trimp is incapable of and shut the fuck up.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 9, 2020 22:04:22 GMT -5
. I ask you to point out what you would have done better. Should be easy for you to do, right? It would have been real easy. Let the experts do the talking, don't go out of your way to muddy the waters and politicize he issue immediately. Whatever guidelines the people who had some semblance of an idea what they were talking about would be suggested and try to unite the country instead of continuing to needle and divide via my rhetoric at every possible moment. So basically do something trimp is incapable of and shut the fuck up. Just like I thought. You got nothing. What a clown you are
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 9, 2020 22:21:36 GMT -5
. I ask you to point out what you would have done better. Should be easy for you to do, right? It would have been real easy. Let the experts do the talking, "The experts". Who were they at the time? Oh yeah! The people saying we could lose one million plus. Yes! Listen to them! Oh right. Say nothing so the media can say you're not leading or offering hope (that's exactly what the media said) and then when he offers hope scream he's offering false hope.(they did that too) The guidlines those experts of yours provided was "two weeks to flatten the curve". The only needling that occurred was the media's incessant whining. You've got no leg to stand on.
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 11, 2020 11:02:18 GMT -5
Also, by which meaningful measure has Trump's COVID-19 response not been absolute dog shit? How about against the initial projections? The ones that came from Fauci & Co that said we were going to have 200,000 tp 1.7 deaths in the US, you forgetful sack of shit? How we doin against that? (Here's where you STFU for another week) www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.htmlCan you please explain to me in your own words what the phrase "worst case estimates" means?
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Post by Comrade Question on Aug 11, 2020 11:04:26 GMT -5
Also, by which meaningful measure has Trump's COVID-19 response not been absolute dog shit? tell us what you would have done and we’ll measure against that What would the point of that be? The POTUS has more resources available to combat a pandemic than possibly any other person alive, and you want to compare his response to some random on the internet? Wouldn't it make way more sense to measure Trump's response against other world leaders rather than some gimmick poster on a nearly-dead forum for white supremacists who are too afraid to use the n-word?
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Post by slaytan on Aug 11, 2020 12:51:23 GMT -5
1960’s documentary, never has been more relevant than today. Watch now before YouTube pulls youtu.be/BKiupnMunSE Andrewk was killed by a ghost, Freddie style. Human agent has been hiding out since fibbing about yours truly and getting called out. CQ is barely hanging on. This is why user comments have been taken away from most news sites. The comment threads are all arguments and the Trump voters tend to win the day
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 11, 2020 15:16:37 GMT -5
I wasn't lying fag! I stand firm on my assertion! As an unofficial uncertifed OD historian you were a huge Bush nut flee! Hell, any politician with an R preceding his name and you'd drop on your knees and open wide...
As the kids these day say... Facts!
And I'm sure as hell not "hiding out", as a matter of fact... I support Trump more than you'd think!
Geez now Comrade Q is going to bombard me with questions ya dunderdildo!
PS you've quoted that same post more times than there are posters here... Stop with the self quote, it's pathetic...
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 11, 2020 17:16:30 GMT -5
Watch my YouTube video or you're admitting to me that you believe everything I say is correct!
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Post by ghostoftc on Aug 11, 2020 21:35:37 GMT -5
Watch my YouTube video or you're admitting to me that you believe everything I say is correct! Nice try. But you didn't post a video. Thus admitting that you know that everything you say is wrong.
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Post by floater on Aug 11, 2020 21:45:44 GMT -5
Watch my YouTube video or you're admitting to me that you believe everything I say is correct! Dude- watch the video. It's painful, it sucks and it's boring... but it's amazing too. Honestly I fell asleep with about 10 minutes left. but I got the gist of it. My wife has no attention span, it took her three tries to watch it. Both of us are now sharing it with everyone we know. Shit is real and it's happening NOW. Fuck fighting with each other, we are being played like a puppet on strings...
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Post by HumanAgent on Aug 11, 2020 23:15:46 GMT -5
Watch my YouTube video or you're admitting to me that you believe everything I say is correct! Dude- watch the video. It's painful, it sucks and it's boring... but it's amazing too. Honestly I fell asleep with about 10 minutes left. but I got the gist of it. My wife has no attention span, it took her three tries to watch it. Both of us are now sharing it with everyone we know. Shit is real and it's happening NOW. Fuck fighting with each other, we are being played like a puppet on strings... I think Andrew is still talking about the Tim Poole video...the one Garth posted, I watched some and will watch the rest later. He posted some similar communist subversion videos on Weekly with similar narrating(which I did like and shared but I haven't been able to find them on You Tube recently)... Kind of like those boring videos they'd show you in history class back in high school...
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Post by slaytan on Aug 12, 2020 6:48:16 GMT -5
I wasn't lying fag! I stand firm on my assertion! As an unofficial uncertifed OD historian you were a huge Bush nut flee! Hell, any politician with an R preceding his name and you'd drop on your knees and open wide... As the kids these day say... Facts! And I'm sure as hell not "hiding out", as a matter of fact... I support Trump more than you'd think! Geez now Comrade Q is going to bombard me with questions ya dunderdildo! PS you've quoted that same post more times than there are posters here... Stop with the self quote, it's pathetic... I’ll give you a pass on calling me George w “nut flee[sic],” since that’s a subjective term and I can see how one could think so. There was a time, around 2002, when I did think highly of Bush. By 2004 he had fallen to earth, but was still vastly preferable to Kerry -I question that now- not because Kerry isn’t the traitor piece of shit I always knew he was, but because I Have since learned that Bush and Kerry were always on the same team. The Bush family is nothing less or other than a crime dynasty whose trade is treason. Patriarch Prescott Bush WAS a mole and political saboteur for the soviets in the 1950s, and HW Bush was definitely a Soviet mole himself as CIA chief and as president. I didn’t always know that. I knew what everyone else knew: youngest pilot in WW2, shot down, blah blah. He got as much mileage out of his shit as traitor McCain did.
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Post by slaytan on Aug 12, 2020 7:32:43 GMT -5
1960’s documentary, never has been more relevant than today. Watch now before YouTube pulls youtu.be/BKiupnMunSEThanks for posting this Garth. It starts out slow and weird, and is quite repetitive... but EVERYONE needs to see this in its entirety. Warning NSFW, rated R+, really scary shit... I say share this with everyone you know. PS too bad It wasn’t shorter. Thanks for this
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 12, 2020 8:46:04 GMT -5
I'm referring to the US government propaganda video Garth is obsessed with now. Not interested.
Imagine being so submissive to the feds that you're still eating up their propaganda from 60 years ago. Pathetic really.
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Post by andrewk1988 on Aug 12, 2020 8:50:24 GMT -5
Watch my YouTube video or you're admitting to me that you believe everything I say is correct! Dude- watch the video. It's painful, it sucks and it's boring... but it's amazing too. Honestly I fell asleep with about 10 minutes left. but I got the gist of it. My wife has no attention span, it took her three tries to watch it. Both of us are now sharing it with everyone we know. Shit is real and it's happening NOW. Fuck fighting with each other, we are being played like a puppet on strings... [br I don't purposefully watch government propaganda. It's nothing against you, promise.
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Post by floater on Aug 12, 2020 10:25:26 GMT -5
Okay fine don’t watch it. I’ll summarize it for you. Communist Russia converted China, Algeria and Cuba. Then they did half of Africa and most of Eastern Europe. The method was the same every time.
1-Infiltrate the media and education system 2-divide the populace (use whatever conflict you can, race, financial inequality etc) 3-promote protests and weaponize the youth to encourage rioting/looting/arson etc. 4-offer a peaceful helping hand that is definitely “not communist” 5-once said country has destroyed itself from the inside out and you have established a helping hand, you simply kill everyone (middle class) who disagree 6-in the end only the super rich and peasants remain
Sound familiar? Not all Government propaganda is bad, especially the 60 year old stuff.
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