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Post by vegeta420z on Oct 1, 2017 1:40:08 GMT -5
Wow Oregon's D Line played really well against Cal.So did the secondary for the most part (lost one of the more experienced guys at safety due to targeting) And the offense did pretty damn well to considering that our starting RB (freeman) went out with an injury, then our starting QB (Herbert) went out with an injury, then our back up QB (Allie) went out in the second half. Not to mention how shitty of a second half team we have been this year.
Hopefully Herbert and Freeman are not out long, but was good to see them play through some adversity and keep it together, Should be fun with WSU next week at Home
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Post by vegeta420z on Oct 1, 2017 1:41:03 GMT -5
Oh yeah and this is from last week but how fucking funny, Possible Heisman candidate?
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Post by daywork on Oct 1, 2017 10:50:02 GMT -5
Holy shit, I had a winning Saturday. Up $1300 right now. Bet 300 on NFL.
Anyways.
Clemson has to be put at #1 now ... Right?? Georgia still looking very good, 4 spot good maybe.
I was out most of the day yesterday. I only got to watch in full Clemson (well, was flipping to the Aggie game too)
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Post by Baph on Oct 1, 2017 18:12:39 GMT -5
Clemson has 6 first place votes in the new poll, but that's not nearly enough based on the relative quality of opponents. By that same metric, why is Ohio St still at #9 with a loss?
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Post by sooner2 on Oct 2, 2017 8:40:56 GMT -5
Clemson has three top 15 ish wins. And has looked really good. Bama has dismantled mostly average to below average teams.
Spent some time watching uga defense last week and this week. They are good. Very good.
Miami d also looks nasty. Started 3-4 freshman lb last season. They are looking to be a special group.
USC played w fire each week this year. Finally got burnt. they are dealing w injuries on o line; but they seem to lack toughness on d.
We are starting to figure out who's who this season.
I have it clemson, bama, psu, Oklahoma, uga, tcu
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Post by sooner2 on Oct 2, 2017 9:03:46 GMT -5
Biggest call in radio show bait this week will be the calls from lsu and Tennessee fans demanding that changes be made.
The Tennessee issue is an easier call than the lsu. The Tennessee thing reminds me of that clemson 63-0 type beating of Miami in front of 800 Miami fans two years ago. There was no turning back from that. Worst home beat down for a Tennessee home game since like 1920. The decision to can corky jones has to be made, and might as well make it now. Interim coach. Off season coach search. Get the best guy u can. But Tennessee fans must realize that they are not going to get urban Meyer, bob stoops , mark richt, dabo Sweeney, James Franklin type guys. It's just not that good of a job. Especially now that uga and Florida are slowly rising.
The lsu issue!?!.... its coaching. Lsu AD totally fucked up the final two years of les miles. Then hired a guy with a proven record of poor performance as a full term head coach... because he speaks with a Cajun accent and can recruit. It was a poorly thought out and emotional hire. And despite all this "talent" lsu has... they have looked really bad.
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Post by sooner2 on Oct 2, 2017 9:05:40 GMT -5
youtu.be/6n1KPQmdddYWhen discussing coach O, this little gem from his time at Mississippi never gets old.
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Post by sooner2 on Oct 2, 2017 11:20:57 GMT -5
AP has it bama. Clem. Ou. Psu. Uga. Wash. Mich. tcu. Wis. Tosu. Wsu. Aub. Miami. USC. Okstate. VT.
Don't understand why tosu has such a high ranking with no significant wins and one loss. At home.
Don't understand why wsu is ranked so low despite no losses and two good wins. (Boise and USC).
washington also has looked crisp ... but hasn't had any really big wins either thus far.
Can't wait for the asswipes in the committee room to try to pack their top 15 with as many possible b10 and sec teams that they can. Because the coaches in the room "know football"... ya know?
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Post by vegeta420z on Oct 2, 2017 16:22:30 GMT -5
Just curious why does everyone have Penn State so high? who have they beat? I haven't watched them play this year but their non con was Akron, Pitt and GA state. Is that really impressive? Then even in big ten they haven't played anyone good yet, is it all because last year they beat Ohio State? Or is this an eye test thing where they just look like they are playing super high level football?
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Post by sooner2 on Oct 2, 2017 16:38:59 GMT -5
Don't know what the AP reasoning is for psu ranking. I personally rank them beciase they look for the most part very crisp. At this point there are fewer and fewer undefeated teams and im far more impressed with psu versus Michigan or Wisconsin. They have a decent win over Pitt in a rivalry game. And I think the win over Iowa is noteworthy. I give props to tcu for beating Arkansas on the road even though Arkansas are not word beaters. I give similar props to psu for beating a scrappy Iowa team at home.
I personally try my best to give no credit to this years psu team based upon what last years team did. Same with how I consider the rankings of everyone else.
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Post by Baph on Oct 2, 2017 18:17:40 GMT -5
I was not high on PSU initially but as the season has gone one they've looked better each week and appear to in fact be a solid top 5ish team. Part of the reason, honestly, is that there's just not a compelling reason to rank many teams above them. To me, there are about six teams who appear to really have their shit together, and I'd put PSU toward the end of that line.
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Post by sooner2 on Oct 5, 2017 10:32:56 GMT -5
Really packed weekdn of games. No super marquee matchups but many many solid games. Here is a list of those in order of my interest in them. Will be a busy work weekend but I'll try to watch as much as I can
Wvu-tcu Miami fsu Bama txam Wsu Oregon Stanford Utah Md tosu Ou isu Ul ncst Msu Michigan Lsu Florida
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Post by daywork on Oct 7, 2017 15:47:38 GMT -5
Wow, Huge upset with Oklahoma.
Now let the Aggies get a upset win LOL
Georgia looked good again.
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Post by Baph on Oct 7, 2017 19:14:55 GMT -5
Louisville loses. Continues to show discipline and focus problems.
As does OU. Two games in a row now OU jumps on an underdog quick, 14-0, then falls completely asleep and finds itself fighting for a comeback win in the 4th. OU scored 7 pts in the entire 2nd half . . . at home, trailing, playoff aspirations on the line. No pulse. No fight. Everyone just sitting around waiting for Baker to do something magical.
The Big 12 is a complete free-for-all at this point. This clear hierarchy between elite and gatekeeper simply doesn't exist. Baylor is much better than their record indicates. As is Texas. As is West Virginia. TCU has clawed its way into the top 10 now. And despite some poor outings lately OKST remains deep with NFL an caliber receiving corps and a big arm QB.
Ole Miss is in a tailspin.
Shit-bird Michigan looking like ass for the zillionth week in a row. Now losing to Mich St 14-3 at halftime. Why is this team #7.
Florida falls to 1-3.
Clemson looked really good. 28-0 in the 4th. Let up and allowed some garbage points from WF.
Feels like a really chaotic season. Every time I think I'm getting it figured out; I'm dead wrong on 3-4 games.
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Post by Baph on Oct 8, 2017 15:49:55 GMT -5
It's always fun to see the logic breakdown as the season rolls on and clear order of teams becomes impossible.
Ohio St got beaten soundly at home by OU, has the same record as OU, and is ranked four spots higher for some reason. OKST lost to undefeated #7 TCU and got sent back into the mid teens from the six spot. Michigan plummets to #16 so people were paying attention to those lackluster wins. But then, why were they so high to begin with?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 8:18:43 GMT -5
For the first time I can ever remember, FSU and Florida are out of the top 25, and south and central florida are IN the top 25.
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Post by daywork on Oct 9, 2017 11:10:13 GMT -5
It's always fun to see the logic breakdown as the season rolls on and clear order of teams becomes impossible. Ohio St got beaten soundly at home by OU, has the same record as OU, and is ranked four spots higher for some reason. OKST lost to undefeated #7 TCU and got sent back into the mid teens from the six spot. Michigan plummets to #16 so people were paying attention to those lackluster wins. But then, why were they so high to begin with? Its all nuts. Don't spend to much time trying to figure out what those people were thinking.
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Post by daywork on Oct 9, 2017 11:11:41 GMT -5
For the first time I can ever remember, FSU and Florida are out of the top 25, and south and central florida are IN the top 25. Wow, that is kind of crazy. I've bet on South Florida a few times but haven't watched them play yet.
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Post by daywork on Oct 9, 2017 16:17:45 GMT -5
not a single top 25 team is playing against a ranked team this coming weekend.
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Post by ocmmafan on Oct 12, 2017 11:50:36 GMT -5
We have some seemingly solid NON power 5 teams:
South Florida 5-0. (out of conference wins at San Jose State, Stonybrook and Illinois) Central Florida 4-0. (out of conference win vs Florida International, @ Maryland they won 38-10 and their home game against Georgia Tech was cancelled due to Hurricane) Navy 5-0. (out of conference wins at Florida Atlantic, Airforce, still play at Notre Dame and Army) San Diego State. 5-0 (out of conference wins vs UC Davis, At Arizona State, Stanford)
Have watched them all play. Central Florida and SDSU have very solid defenses. Navy is a match-up problem but they wont stay undefeated. Central Florida plays both Navy and South Florida so at best only one of those teams has a realistic chance at undefeated. South Florida has a dynamic QB but their defense is questionable.
SDSU gets Boise State this weekend and that's the toughest test left. SDSU has the best chance of going undefeated. I would say Central Florida has next best chance but playing at Navy and home to South Florida could leave them with a loss.
I assume if two of these teams go undefeated they will play each other in a bowl. I don't see any chance they jump over 1 loss teams from the power 5, and that is pretty fucked up. It's not that they don't want to schedule tougher teams, tougher teams won't do a home and away series vs them. SDSU has an agreement with the PAC 12 so they can get 2 of those opponents per year, so that's at least something.
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Post by Baph on Oct 13, 2017 21:42:58 GMT -5
Clemson's QB gets KO'd by a big hit and the whole team goes to shit, even defensively a bit, and just melts down en route to an embarrassing road loss to unranked Syracuse. Trailing at the half. Doesn't score at all in the 4th with the game on the line. Just . . . wow.
Now unranked Cal really taking it to #8 Wash St. 17-3 with the 3rd quarter just kicking off.
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Post by daywork on Oct 14, 2017 10:33:54 GMT -5
Clemson's QB gets KO'd by a big hit and the whole team goes to shit, even defensively a bit, and just melts down en route to an embarrassing road loss to unranked Syracuse. Trailing at the half. Doesn't score at all in the 4th with the game on the line. Just . . . wow. Now unranked Cal really taking it to #8 Wash St. 17-3 with the 3rd quarter just kicking off. Holy shit that was ugly lastnight. It looked like both teams (Clemson, washting st) thought they were suppose to win just by showing up. Atleast Clemson did have a chance, Washington St was just beat down.
Oh well, I start today down $400 because of lastnight.
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Post by daywork on Oct 14, 2017 14:48:37 GMT -5
I don't know what it is, I just don't like Michigan. They are on TV right now and I'm really rooting for Indiana to win this game in OT.
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Post by Baph on Oct 14, 2017 21:01:01 GMT -5
Michigan fucking suuuuuucks. So fucking over rated.
Wash St completely imploded.
Louisville lost again.
WVU vs TTech was a wild shootout where WVU came from behind to win.
Texas true freshman QB gave OU all they wanted.
OKST played phenomenal defense dismantling Baylor today.
TCU remains undefeated.
USC getting thumped again.
LSU beats Auburn continuing to convolute the SEC mud puddle.
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Post by Baph on Oct 15, 2017 0:50:46 GMT -5
5 min to go in the game and Wash has 7 fucking points.
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Post by daywork on Oct 15, 2017 8:46:19 GMT -5
Not a good weekend for some highly ranked teams. LOL Way to shake it all up.
Georgia takes the #2 spot now?
Got lucky Miami USC Michigan
Clemson, Washington, Washington St, San Jose St, TCU/K-Stat not scoring really hurt my betting day/s.
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Post by daywork on Oct 15, 2017 9:10:12 GMT -5
Michigan fucking suuuuuucks. So fucking over rated. Wash St completely imploded. Louisville lost again. WVU vs TTech was a wild shootout where WVU came from behind to win. Texas true freshman QB gave OU all they wanted. OKST played phenomenal defense dismantling Baylor today. TCU remains undefeated. USC getting thumped again. LSU beats Auburn continuing to convolute the SEC mud puddle.
Just looked at next weeks games. Some really good ones. But one stood up and I though of this post when I seen it.
Michigan @ Penn St
Woohoo, Michigan gets their asses kicked next week.
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Post by Baph on Oct 15, 2017 11:05:56 GMT -5
So in the immediate chaos . . . what do you do with the rankings now that we've seen some dust-ups?
My take, in order of ranking:
1 Bama and 4 Georgia appear locked on a collision course. Not much to say there. Ranked correctly.
Now that 5 Washington has lost, their SOS becomes an issue. When an unranked team holds you to 7 pts, a single touchdown in the final few minutes of the game, that shit needs to sting, and I'm not talking about the default "you lost, drop 9 spots" shuffle. It's like a UFC judge that gives you a 10-9 round if you land one more jab than the other guy, but also gives you a 10-9 round if you carve someone up and have two near subs. These are not the same round, people. My rank: 15th.
8 Washington St also lost to an unranked team, and it was equally brutal in it's complete exposure of team flaws. Cal holds you to . . . 3 pts. You didn't fucking score after halftime. Dude, get the fuck out of the top 20, now. My rank. 20th.
10 Auburn shutout in 2nd half and beaten by really shakey LSU team. My rank: 16th.
11 Miami comes from behind in the 4th to beat Georgia Tech by 1pt. Exciting, but not impressive. My rank: 13th.
12 OU stayed with their pattern from the past 3 games (Baylor, ISU, Tex). Jump out to a 10-14 pt lead, fall asleep, end up trailing late in the 4th to an unranked team, get fired up and squeak out a miracle in in the final 4-5 min (or don't vs ISU). Texas true freshman QB has some serious salt and had he not been dinged up for a couple snaps on that final drive, down 5, driving in OU territory, 2-3 min to go in the game . . . this was a wild, tense 2nd half. OU is a VERY difficult team to rank. Maybe the most difficult. The emotional volatility of this team, their QB, and the young coach could have you running Ohio St out of town or it could have you fighting for your life against the Iowa States and Baylors of the world. My rank: 10th.
13 USC kind of does the opposite. Falls asleep right off the bat and wakes up in the 4th quarter to come back from 13pts down and win by 1 against an unranked team. Me? I drop USC despite the 1pt win. They've just been . . . iffy, week after week. Double OT vs. Texas by 3pts. Beating Utah by 1pt. Losing to Wash St. I'm kind of over the USC thing. My rank: 14th.
14 OKST played it's best game since dismantling Pitt back when everyone thought this was a top 5 team. Now, having said that, their big embarrassing loss to TCU doesn't look quite as big and embarrassing now that TCU is undefeated and ranked top 5. Baylor scored on it's opening drive after finding a lot of success with a delay run gap thing that exposed some blocking schemes. OKST made an adjustment and Baylor scored 9 pts for the rest of the game (3 FGs). OKST scored 59. This is a Baylor team that dropped 41 pts on OU and held a 3pt lead late in the 4th quarter. Yesterday, OKST was pulling starters out in the 3rd quarter. I'd move OKST up more than usual. Sure, I'm biased, not even attempting to hide it, but that loss to #4 TCU dropped OKST 9 fucking spots. Other teams in similar situations have lost to unranked teams and also dropped 9 spots. Like 9 spots is the default setting for "you lost", but is losing to #4 the same as losing to #40? Never seemed to bother SEC schools when they'd lose to each other and only drop a spot or two. Yesterday OKST made us remember why they were garnering so much early season hype. Set a school record in total offensive yardage in a game. Scored at will. Stingy on defense. Looked elite. Pulling starters with 15 min left is the only reason this wasn't some sort of comic book, 71-16 scoreboard. My rank: 8th.
17 Michigan beats Indiana in OT due to what, to me, looked mostly like fatigue on Indiana's part. Michigan is literally the worst team in college football. My rank: 22nd.
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Post by Baph on Oct 15, 2017 12:00:21 GMT -5
Big game for me next week is OKST @ Texas. We've seen Texas play USC and OU down to the wire, both games away from Austin. If OKST can go into Austin and TCOB, I'll get back on the hype train.
Would love to see Pedo St knock Michigan out of the top 20.
USC and Notre Dame square off.
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Post by daywork on Oct 15, 2017 12:00:48 GMT -5
Man, that's hard to say. Off the top of my head. Bama Georgia Penn St Then .... TCU Wisconsin will move up some. Miami will move up even with a bad win. A bad win is better then a loss Oklahoma Oklahoma St Ohio St Oh, they will have Michigan up some just because the love they have for them. But it will only last a week. I ran out of teams in my head and I'm to lazy right now to look up different who else is out there and who I forgot. I would love to see South Florida or Central Florida move up. I don't think they can hang with Bama and Georgia and others. But I would love to see it.
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