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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 21:01:00 GMT -5
Anyone use Fubo? 20 bucks for the channel line up you get seems pretty solid? Oh wait no ESPN fuck that.
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 21:37:26 GMT -5
Fubo? No idea what it is. Is it like a firestick?
Doesn't matter. I love my Dish network
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 21:39:00 GMT -5
For some reason I really thought K-State and South Carolina were going to win and cover today. Wow, that was dumb.
Oh, I also thought LSU was going to win and cover.
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 21:54:20 GMT -5
Fubo? No idea what it is. Is it like a firestick? Doesn't matter. I love my Dish network It is like Hulu or sling but it is just mostly sports channels
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 22:06:48 GMT -5
Oregon played much like last week really sharp in the first then fell apart in the second. the melt down was not as bad this week as against NEB but still we were playing Fucking Wyoming. so I'm not sure what is going on if it is mental physical or both. New coaches new system and new S and C coach who is focusing way more on bulking our guys up where as the ols SanC guy (Jim Ratcliffe) was really into training cardio and speed and less into bulking up.
Oh well hopefully we get the hicups out of the way against these shitty teams and get into good form by the time we hit the meat of our conference schedule.
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 22:18:34 GMT -5
Man, Texas can't get out of it's own way or they'd be leading USC heading into the 4th quarter. Bad penalties at key times, having to walk back these huge plays, yeesh.
14-10 heading into the 4th and they're AT USC. They just threw a red zone int when they were primed to take the lead with just 9 min left int he game. Unreal.
Just remembering . . . USC pulled of a pretty flippin' crazy 50+ yd score with 2 seconds left in the half when everyone was thinking they'd take a knee. Outside of that freak play . . . they've scored ONCE all day. Take that crazy play out and it's 10-7 Texas.
I will say this: USC at #4 looks about as logical as Ohio St at #2 did. Big name program with major media market does ANYTHING right and you're immediately in playoff contention.
I said it last week, and I'll say it again this week, now with an exclamation point, the Clemson reload is for real.
Kansas State losing to Vandy is just hard to take. So much respect for Snyder and a sincere admiration for the kinds of teams KState puts together and wanting to shore-up some in-conference SOS and it's just disaster after disaster. Baylor loses to Duke. KState loses to Vandy.
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 22:59:47 GMT -5
I'm going to laugh my ass off if Texas can find a way to score on this drive. But even it USC does get the win. They really do need to be dropped from the 4th spot. This is the 2nd game in 3 weeks where they struggled. I'm not sure how to rank everyone since I'm still high on the Clemson win
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 23:09:26 GMT -5
Come on Texas. 4th and 10. Please atleast get a 1st down
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 23:10:27 GMT -5
YEESSSSSSS. You still have a chance
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 23:19:32 GMT -5
Please miss the FG
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 23:20:03 GMT -5
Damn. OT it is.
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 23:20:53 GMT -5
What a fucking finish. Some serious sloppiness, especially with penalties, but Texas gave USC a fucking reality check and they did it AT USC no less. USC held scoreless in 3 of the 4 quarters, and the entire 2nd half. Texas receivers open all day long. Great protection. QB has some massive accuracy issues, but he managed to hit targets often enough to drive when it mattered. Take a lead with just a minute to go and it appears to be an incredible win, a massive upset, pop the bubbly . . . and then, fuck me running, USC drives down and hits a fucking field goal, their first score of the entire 2nd half, with 00:00 on the clock. Jesus. We've got OT ladies and gentlemen.
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 23:43:12 GMT -5
Fun game. Wish Texas could've pulled it off. Either way USC should drop down in the rankings.
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 23:46:29 GMT -5
That celebration tells you everything . . . USC acting like they just won the super bowl . . . after beating a 1-2 unranked Texas in double OT with a long field goal. Why does a top 4 team act like that? Because they were scared shitless and for a pretty long stretch of that game Texas felt like the better team.
With 3 seconds to go in the game, USC is trailing and hasn't scored in the entire 2nd half . . . on their home field. Let that sink in.
If there's such a thing as a bad win, that was is for USC.
If there's such a thing as a good loss, that was it for Texas.
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 23:57:35 GMT -5
Anybody watching stanford down 7-13 in the 3rd with about 5 minutes left? WTF is this shit? Pac12 had a rough year last year (the main reason for overrated Washington an WA state looking so good) was kind of hoping that they were gonna bounce back this year but so far its not looking great
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 23:58:50 GMT -5
Elsewhere in the pac Cal is in a close one with Ole Miss
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 17, 2017 2:13:49 GMT -5
Wow just got back from going for a run and see that stanford goes down to SDSU and Cal ended up winning against Ole mis. I know ole mis isn't exactly the best team in SEC and NC isn't the greatest in the ACC but Cal is pretty middle of the pac12. Wonder if Oregon and Cal get into top 25? Cal deffinetly sshould and i think Oregon should but they might honestly need another win or 2 before anyone agrees with me. kind of thinking Cal might turn out to be tougher for s then Stanford thios year. although typically cardinal is usually a tough draw for us even when they aren't very good and cal seem to lose even when we arent very good
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Post by Baph on Sept 17, 2017 8:33:00 GMT -5
So USC has a major, major scare against Texas at home and now their marquee win against Stanford doesn't look all that impressive. Stanford is hours away from being an unranked, 1-2 team with a bad L to San Diego State. So tell me why they're #4 again?
While you're at it, why was Ohio St #2? Losing your bowl game 31-0 and a rough season opener vs Indiana?
Logo points. Blue bloods. Major media markets. This shit is almost as bad and as blatant as ESPN's SEC fetish. Are AP voters not watching the games? Is this simple name recognition voting? Or just the chaos of early season assumptions gone bust?
Voters are not watching the teams they are voting on or even the teams they're (voters and analysts) talking about. This became evident to me before the season when people were picking Baylor and TCU to win the big 12 . Yes, this actually happened.
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Post by daywork on Sept 17, 2017 10:18:36 GMT -5
I think you answered your own question. Why Ohio St and USC were ranked so high. Major media markets and name recognition. That has to be the answer. Or the voters are just counting a win is a win no matter how or who you play
Clemson should bounce up to 1st
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Post by Baph on Sept 17, 2017 11:01:41 GMT -5
Agree . . . still don't feel like I have enough quality data to rank worth a fuck, but we're definitely getting dialed-in a bit. I'd go:
1. Clemson 2. Alabama 3. Oklahoma 4. OKST 5. Penn St 6. Washington 7. USC 8. Ohio St 9. Mich 10. Wisconsin
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Post by daywork on Sept 17, 2017 11:22:26 GMT -5
Agree . . . still don't feel like I have enough quality data to rank worth a fuck, but we're definitely getting dialed-in a bit. I'd go: 1. Clemson 2. Alabama 3. Oklahoma 4. OKST 5. Penn St 6. Washington 7. USC 8. Ohio St 9. Mich 10. Wisconsin I was thinking Penn St should split the two Oklahoma teams. Only because they have done what they are suppose to do. Blow out the teams that they have played. Where Oklahoma you can say had a bad half vs a lesser team.
But I can't remember who Penn St played in week 1 and I haven't looked it up. Just going off memory.
I'm looking at that list and feel like we are missing someone, but I can't think of who.
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Edit.
Just looked it up. Yeah, I have to go with the ranking you have. Oklahoma beat the ranked #2 at the time Ohio St. Oklahoma St and Penn St do both played Pitt. Oklahoma St looked much better against them then Penn St did.
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Post by daywork on Sept 17, 2017 11:28:36 GMT -5
Wow just got back from going for a run and see that stanford goes down to SDSU and Cal ended up winning against Ole mis. I know ole mis isn't exactly the best team in SEC and NC isn't the greatest in the ACC but Cal is pretty middle of the pac12. Wonder if Oregon and Cal get into top 25? Cal deffinetly sshould and i think Oregon should but they might honestly need another win or 2 before anyone agrees with me. kind of thinking Cal might turn out to be tougher for s then Stanford thios year. although typically cardinal is usually a tough draw for us even when they aren't very good and cal seem to lose even when we arent very good Yeah, take a guess on the two teams I bet on. LOL
The losers
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Post by daywork on Sept 17, 2017 12:23:00 GMT -5
Fun games next week.
Oklahoma St vs TCU. I fully expect Oklahoma St to win but this it will be a fun game to watch.
Michigan vs Purdue. Can Purdue get another upset? They played Louisville close. I'll be rooting for them anyways.
I don't think Chip and Joanna Gains will be going to the massacre that will be Oklahoma vs Baylor will end up to be. LOL
Georgia vs Mississippi St. Good competitive game here.
Houston vs Texas Tech.
North Carolina vs Duke. I'm rooting for North Carolina here.
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Post by daywork on Sept 17, 2017 14:42:12 GMT -5
New Ranking
1. Alabama 2. Clemson 3. Oklahoma 4. Penn St 5. USC 6. Oklahoma St 7. Washington 8. Michigan 9. Wisconsin 10. Ohio St.
So almost losing to a unranked team only drops you 1 spot.
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Post by Baph on Sept 17, 2017 16:04:06 GMT -5
New Ranking 1. Alabama 2. Clemson 3. Oklahoma 4. Penn St 5. USC 6. Oklahoma St 7. Washington 8. Michigan 9. Wisconsin 10. Ohio St. So almost losing to a unranked team only drops you 1 spot. That's reasonable overall. Michigan just doesn't look very good to me. Tuned in to Air Force @ Mich yesterday and it's 19-13 at the start of the 4th quarter. Are you guys watching these Michigan games? I mean, they're winning, but . . . meh. Long stretches of the game where they just struggle and fight for yards, punt it away on 75% of their drives, and then you realize, it's the 3rd quarter against Air Force and they've yet to score a fucking touchdown. Plus, hate comes easy when Harbaugh is such a miserable booger eating cunt. So . . . Why is Michigan above Wisconsin? Wiscy has similar or better SOS but is winning by 30+ every week and is actually moving the fucking ball down the field? Because you can't watch 100 hrs of football every weekend and no voter is. I'd say they're being really friendly to USC as well. By dumb fucking luck and a walk on freshman kicker from 40 did they not lose to Texas on their home field yesterday. There appears to be a psychological/nostalgic NEED to get USC back into national prominence. Getting shut down like that at home was bad. They scored 3 pts in the 2nd half and should have lost that game. Texas defense completely manhandled USC outside of one little 5 min stretch before half time they were completely controlled. A little preview of what an Alabama or Clemson might do to them, except, unlike Texas, those teams have actual offenses. USC doesn't belong up there. Maryland dropped 51 on Texas in Austin in the season opener. Couple that with the serious hit their best win just took (Stanford loses to San Diego St lol) and USC has to take a hit after that. You big win suddenly looks smaller, and you really should have just lost at home to train wreck UT . . . so drop one spot? And, as you said, Penn St has no big wins and a common opponent with OKST in Pitt. Pitt @ Penn St loses 33-14, has more offense (ground, air, first downs, time of posession) than Penn St. Pitt @ Home vs. OKST loses 59-21 and starters were being pulled AT HALFTIME. Based on performance vs common opponent and factoring the the home/away dynamic, how to you rank Penn St over OKST except that you're reluctant to move blue blood, historic programs away from that coveted "top 4" zone? Feels wrong.
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Post by sooner2 on Sept 18, 2017 8:34:25 GMT -5
Didn't get to see as much this weekdn as I'd have liked. Clemson looked solid. UT/UF looked ugly and sloppy as expected. USC / TExas quite entertaining. Lsu get stomped. Osu puts in a clinic vs Pitt. Ou beats an over matched Tulane. Nebraska loses to a mac school. Memphis over ucla. K state loses to vandy. Tcu struggles vs smu At this point, still more questions than answers. Who is good? Who is for real? Biggest wins of the season are USC over Stanford, ou over tosu, bama over fsu and Michigan over Florida ? But honestly; how big are those wins? ?
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Post by sooner2 on Sept 18, 2017 9:02:42 GMT -5
Thus far, here are the teams it looks like I was wrong about
- auburn. I thought Stidham would flourish in that offense. Really figured they would be a huge factor in s e c and even look to win the west. Don't see that happening.
- Ohio state. Thought they would play up to their talent level and dominate their early schedule and b10 play. What's the deal w Meyer? Seems to take over a program, get amazingly talented first few recruiting classes, win big with that core class or two as a nucleus, then falls off a bit.
Lsu- thoughtbthe Canada offense system would be a huge hit. At this point , lsu looks no more effective on offense than they have been in the past 4 years.
uga- Better than I thought. Fresh qb has the goods. Far better than 5 star Eason. If they are smart, they will keep Fromm out there even when Eason is healthy. Uga should win the s e c east
Teams I was right about.
Ok state- really do think they are a top 5 type team. Out of all the teams thus far, they have put in clinics each week and looked crisp. Could have beaten pitt by 60. The thing I'm most impressed with is their defense.
Texas- I don't think they would be a top 15 type team, but I thought they would be a team that would show glimpeses of how talented they are at times , and shit the bed at other times. They will ruin the season of a team or two in the b12.
Nebraska- not a talented team. Not able to win tough games. It's a tough job to win at these days. Doesn't look like they will ever challenge for b10 west title. That's a sad commentary on a program. That's like saying a team can't challenge for a s e c east title. Are Nebraska fans really going to be satisfied with hiring the nicest and older and gentlemanly coach they could find? He may be nice and kind, but he hasn't been able to recruit well, and is definitely not a Tom Osborne type guy on saturdays.
Teams I still don't know enough about yet.
- ou. Bama. Nd. USC.
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Post by Baph on Sept 18, 2017 20:16:40 GMT -5
Was just thinking today, in general, do you think Big 12 defectors are happy that they jumped ship?
Mizzou? Tex A&M? Nebraska?
Following up on your "need more data" list, I'd add Penn St., Wash, and Wiscy to that list. I think with the number of seniors on OU's o and d lines and with Baker we know enough to know that is an elite team. Skill positions are still "names we're learning" but I don't see that as nearly as big of an issue as I expected it to be.
Bama does not appear to have much of an offense, especially with the down field stuff. Question is . . . so what? Will that even matter prior to a playoff game? I don't think so, now that they're past FSU. For all that gushing, over-the-top SEC adulation we've endured the past few years you'd think this annual cake walk Bama gets would raise some flags. I do give some props to Bama for going out and scheduling FSU, but now they won't play a top 15 team the rest of the year (current rankings).
Penn St will play two top 10 teams this year (current rankings) but both of them are suspect to say the least (Mich, Ohio St). Still, that's at least on paper one of the better schedules in the top 10.
USC does not play a top 15 team all year. The Stanford win looks tainted now and Texas had them way up shit creek all day long.
Washington does not play a top 15 team all year.
Wiscy plays only one ranked team all year, Michigan.
OU an OKST will both play each other, possibly twice, so there's a top 5ish match-up looming x2. Will get a point of reference as they both play Texas and we can see how potential USC match-up issues play out.
Clemson actually has the most legit schedule of any top 10 team. 13 Auburn. 14 Louisville. 12 FSU. 15 VTech.
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Post by Baph on Sept 18, 2017 21:45:07 GMT -5
The thing I love about OKST right now is that the obvious read, the QB and receiving corps, is allowing some good cover for a surprising ground game and a solid defense. It's hard for a top 10 team to really "sneak up" on anyone, but I actually think OKST might be in a good position to do that to some degree. People are still double teaming James Washington like there isn't depth at receiver, and still dropping back like there's no run game. That is exactly how Pitt got blown off the field in the opening 20 min last Saturday.
@ Pitt last weekend: The two backs combine for 126 rushing yards, almost entirely in the first half, including 2 TDs. Hill averaged 8.3 yds/carry. Defense has 2 sacks, 3 tackles for loss, and holds Pitt to 21 pts, all of which happened once the game was effectively over (49-0) and we might suspect starters were pulled and intensity was lowered.
The season opener vs. Tulsa was similar. 300 yds on the ground, 300 yds in the air, and Tulsa was clearly not anticipating the balance on the ground OR among different air targets, focusing primarily on Washington until the 3rd quarter. Thus, OKST became the first team in 20 years to have four receivers in the same game all with over 100 yds. Why people continue to double team Washington when five other guys are thrashing their secondary is beyond me, but by all means, continue.
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Post by Baph on Sept 20, 2017 1:05:00 GMT -5
Another relatively slow week coming up:
Miss St coming in off that huge win over LSU will take on Georgia and I'd love to see more SEC disruption there. OKST hosts TCU in what may be it's first true test of the season. Penn St should get a win @ Iowa but I'll be keeping an eye on that. Expect OU to humiliate Baylor and it couldn't happen to a nicer program. Expect Michigan to struggle @ Purdue and win going away by some underwhelming margin. Will be interesting to see how USC bounces back after a win (I've literally never said that phrase before) @ Cal. Bama continues to play trash teams week after week, though Vandy did just beat K fucking State somehow.
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