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Post by Baph on Sept 6, 2017 0:16:34 GMT -5
TCU sneaks in at #23 to avoid a complete Texas shut out of the top 25 rankings. Wow. Unreal situation down there.
Seeing OKST look phenomenal and pull the starters in the 3rd quarter and then drop a spot in the rankings is pretty weird. That was nearly a perfect game. No penalties. 300 on the ground. 300 in the air. 60 pts. Spread it around. Run it up. Pull the talent early. So . . . down to #12? Got it. And a fine fuck you to you as well, sir. Seeing OU jump forward two spots after a strong opener vs UTEP is pretty generous. How do you move up two spots beating UTEP? Keeping Ohio St at #2 after a suuuuuper flat opening half is surprising as well. Washington moves UP a spot after letting Rutgers hang around until late in the 3rd quarter? Um, ok . . . why is that? Stanford has a savage opener and moves zero spots. Just doesn't seem to be any real consistency here, and that's likely a result of people not watching all of the games. I know, I know . . . it's doesn't really matter, but it does matter some, in terms of how SOS is calculated and how much future Ws and Ls impact your ranking, recruiting, bowl selections, so don't give me the shut up and win bullshit. Still seems at least 35% arbitrary copy/paste in terms of AP ranking.
Week two hype train leaving the station.
OU @ Ohio St is massive. I have to say I was predicting an Ohio St beatdown but I've changed my mind. Ohio St's run game was soft until fatigue set in late in the game. OU's lines are really solid and Mayfield is sharp. I think this might be an upset.
Will be watching Pitt @ Penn St, because OKST goes to Pitt next week and also because Penn St looks like they might have something serious put together this year.
Also very interested in TCU @ Arkansas because TCU appears to be the other Big 12 team worth getting nervous about.
Auburn @ Clemson should tell us a little more about how real this Clemson reload is.
Stanford @ USC is massive and I think potentially another upset. This may well be an upset Saturday in the works.
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Post by daywork on Sept 7, 2017 9:11:38 GMT -5
I haven't looked at the rankings yet. I'll look in a little while.
TCU vs Arkansas should be a good game. Both did very well last week against whoever they played. I probably won't bet this game and if I did, it would be a Over / Under bet.
I'll be rooting for Oklahoma vs Ohio St.
Clemson should get the win here and the cover
Stanford vs USC. Oh man, I really hope there is a upset in this game. Stanford is getting 6 points. USC didn't look that good last week. If they play the same way, they will lose.
Tonight and tomorrow I'll be doing more research on the games.
But I always make a couple impulse bets. Here is two bets I just made
Ticket#:134489511 Sep 09 04:00 PM INTERNET / -1 Sep 07 06:54 AM CFB STRAIGHT BET [378] CLEMSON -5-105 55 / 52
========================== Ticket#:134489512 Sep 09 04:30 PM INTERNET / -1 Sep 07 06:54 AM CFB STRAIGHT BET [383] OKLAHOMA +7½-105 55 / 52
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Post by sooner2 on Sept 7, 2017 11:56:12 GMT -5
Big weekdn upcoming.
Based on pure talent on each roster, Tosu should win over ou. Should win big. But careful consideration of matchups does suggest it could be closer than pure talent dictates.
Indiana took osu apart last week and exposed osu youth in dbs. And they did this with no running game threat. None at all. Ou will have a significant running game threat, and this could open up the osu defensive backfield for some big plays. The one thing to consider in ou passing attack vs that or Indiana is the overall lack of size that ou has at wide outs compared to the huge guys that iu had.
On the other side of the ball... I have serious concerns about osu running the ball all over the ou defense and using freshman stud Robbins kid in situations where he can gash ou and fire off huge runs.. something that has a a disturbing trend w this group of core ou defensive players.
And the osu d line is fantastic. Three deep. If ou is behind or doesn't have more than a 14 point lead in the 3rd qtr, osu d line studs will wear even this great ou o line down and begin to make big plays
I give ou a 30 percent chance of a win.
Stanford should beat USC again. I do think USC is better than what we saw last week. They were likely overlooking wmu. But Stanford is like 9-2 vs USC in the past 11 games. I know that doesn't necessarily matter with these current rosters, but it does speak to the physical , smart, heavy run packages with solid d and o line play being a bit of kryptonite to the USC system. I look for Stanford to win.
I have been reluctant to say that Michigan and psu have arrived as consistent programs. I am starting to reconsider this. Psu impressed me on defense last week. It was agaisnt a mac opponent but still solid. I think Pitt will be better than expected. They don't have the roster talent that psu has, and have lost one of the best OC in the biz to lsu, but pittbhead coach is still solid. Pitt will lose, but I wouldn't think it'll be by more than 14.
Auburn clumpsen is the most intriguing. Stidman is a perfect fit for the auburn offense. Been saying it for a long time. But the clumpsen d is better than anything auburn will face at any time this year. Better than even the vaunted bama d. I give the edge to clumpsen on a nail. Biter.
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Post by sooner2 on Sept 7, 2017 12:03:58 GMT -5
And I agree w bapt that these rankings do matter. Preseason rankings do matter. The esteemed cfbpc is influenced by the perception of rankings; at least to some extent. No doubt.
Have said this season felt wide open with all leading programs showing serious questions at key spots. With fsu qb gone and two bama lb out... it will indeed be wide open I think.
Were Miami and uga justified in getting the love they got this off season??? Might they be able to take advantage of key injuries to their key opponents and make their moves? Is lsu for real ? Can Michigan come up with enough offense to compliment this great looking defense ? Can ok state win out by hanging 50 on everyone they play but relying on the bend don't break philosophy on d like they've done in the past ? Or can they do away with bend don't break and be a serious deep d line dominated team like they appeared to be vs Tulsa ?
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 8, 2017 0:27:25 GMT -5
Oregon vs Nebraska will answer a lot of questions on offense and defense i think even under a new HC and after a shitty showing last season The ducks should still have a pretty good year they have alot of young talent and a few guys returning from last year that are pretty good as well our toughest stretch is at stanford, then a week later UCLA, then Utah at home followed by at washington the week after then we get a buy week with only two games during that stretch we might lose a couple but i think the rest of the schedule looks pretty ideal. I think we will go 10-2 or better might lose to WA Stanford or Utah but i don't think we lose all three and will definitely put it on WSU this year.
Even if we aren't that successful the future looks really bright going forward. Sad that this is Freemans final season as Rb but got some great guys coming up to replace him Brooks-james, Benoit, and Griffin and Our QB justin Herbert is a name that after this season will be well known in the CFB world
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Post by Baph on Sept 8, 2017 23:43:25 GMT -5
OKST vs Southern Alabama was not particularly meaningful in terms of learning anything about the team, other than giving some context for the difference between a "meh" team (Tulsa) and a bad team (Southern A). Starters played 2.5 quarters, left the game up 41-0.
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Post by daywork on Sept 9, 2017 11:19:05 GMT -5
Oklahoma St and Purdue did good by me last night. Both covered with ease. Oklahoma St did what they were suppose to do, they blew out S. Alabama. On paper Purdue and Ohio was suppose to be close. Purdue looked good.
I have a feeling Louisville is going to get upset today. I didn't bet it, but wanted to.
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Post by daywork on Sept 9, 2017 14:11:35 GMT -5
North Carolina kept it interesting.
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Post by ocmmafan on Sept 9, 2017 14:15:50 GMT -5
Louisville is super talented but god damn are they undisciplined. So many dumb penalties. That's coaching and its going to cost them against Clemson or someone.
That black QB on NC is 10x better than the other guy. If he played the entire game NC could have won.
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Post by Baph on Sept 9, 2017 16:54:03 GMT -5
Was an interesting game. That's part of why college football is so great. We're at that perfect intersection of raw athletic talent and somewhat unpredictable emotional and logical decision making.
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Post by daywork on Sept 9, 2017 21:01:35 GMT -5
The 3 big games are close. Flipping between all three and the UFC prelims.
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Post by Baph on Sept 9, 2017 22:13:24 GMT -5
Ohio St is exactly what I suspected: wildly over-rated. Frankly, OU played tight and rusty in the first half, got careless with the ball a few times, or that is never a game.
OU looks tremendous and despite losing Mixon, Peryne, Westbrook, Striker, etc., this team looks significantly better than the previous year's squad. Just goes to show what we all already know -- the o and d lines and a stellar QB means EVERYTHING. Sure, playmakers are nice, but is anybody missing Mixon right now?
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Post by daywork on Sept 9, 2017 22:25:33 GMT -5
Nice win by Oklahoma. I didn't get the see that much of the game just to much flipping.
I was hoping Stanford was going to win. But it doesn't look good for them right now.
Clemson got the win.
Did you see Baylor lost.. To UTSA WTF
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Post by Baph on Sept 10, 2017 0:07:37 GMT -5
OU and Ohio St both played really tight in the first half. And I don't mean like a tight contest . . . I mean nervous, conservative, tense. 3-3 at half. Couple things got rolling and OU just took off for about a 10-12 min period mid 3rd quarter and it was effectively over just like that. Bang bang.
I was already low on Ohio St coming into tonight, let's not forget Indiana was leading at halftime a week ago vs Ohio St, but this beat down tonight exposed even more. JT Barrett has just clearly regressed. Let's be honest. The play calling got flat for long stretches and somewhat predictable. And yet again, where was the running game that was supposed to grind OU down? The slow starts they're known for are not a style issue but an execution issue. This is not in any way a detraction from what OU did -- they're clearly an elite team and played a stellar 2nd half -- but I would LOVE for someone to sit me down right now and explain to me why Ohio St was #2.
Also, hate to point this out, because frankly it's an even worse criticism, but Ohio St folded mentally when they got behind. Like . . . pretty much immediately. NOT a good look on your home field. And then letting Mayfield do a victory lap with the OU flag and plant it on your logo on the 50 yd line. Jesus.
Contrast Ohio St's performance in their first test of the season with USC's. Both had "meh" openers, but USC came out and made a fucking STATEMENT tonight. I did . . . NOT . . . see that coming. Wow.
The Clemson reload appears to be legit. Nice total game, both sides of the ball, performance vs. Auburn.
I thought Georgia looked a bit suspect again today, beating Notre Dame by 1 pt.
Louisville is the new Texas. Mega talented. Total ADHD train wreck. Will lose some games. Will ruin some seasons.
Is Virginia Tech secretly good? Stunner over WVU in the opener then 27-0 shutout tonight.
TCU continues to impress going into Arkansas and spanking the hogs.
Seeing UTSA beat Baylor . . . I don't even know what to say. Spectacular implosion. Absolutely incredible. And it couldn't happen to a finer team. Turn a blind eye to institutionalized gang rape for a few years in order to keep the blue chips in town and on the roster and wouldn't you know it . . . this ain't Miami in 1988 you fuck sticks, we have social media now. Go crawl off somewhere and die.
Look at Baylor's upcoming schedule:
@ Duke vs. OU @ KState @ OKST vs. WVU vs. Texas
Where's the W? Show me.
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Post by Baph on Sept 10, 2017 15:14:46 GMT -5
New rankings are out. Some observations:
OU jumps to #2, and if Baker can achieve that level of precision when needed, that may be warranted. Interesting to see a team lose Mixon, Peryne, Westbrook, Striker, and others, including their HOF head coach, and yet apparently . . . get noticeably better. Was old man Stoops actually holding them back to a degree?
There appears to be some stability settling in to the top 5 with Bama, OU, Clem, USC, and Penn. Somethings gonna have to happen to jar that pack loose.
I like where OKST is at. Quietly lurking on the bubble at #9 with a couple good opportunities to advance later in the season, and an @ Pitt and vs. TCU as two immediate, real tests in the next two weeks.
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 10, 2017 19:29:55 GMT -5
Oregon Offense and Defense looked inedible in the first half, before the fucking wheels completely fell off in the second. The defense while giving up some yards in the second were able to hold off Nebraska's bounce back in the second half. Hopefully we can see more cohesion and strong play like the first half and no more of the implosion they showed to finish the game. Either way we showed cased some talented new freshman receivers and Dbs and our QB Herbert looked composed and like he will be a real threat when the whole team is playing to their potential. excited about the future of this team
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Post by Baph on Sept 11, 2017 12:41:42 GMT -5
What's hot in week 3?
#9 OKST @ Pitt, who played reasonably well @ Penn St last week, and OKST is down two linebackers (one injury, on via targeting suspension for 1st half).
Baylor @ Duke. Let's be real. It's snuff porn at this point. And I'll be watching.
#3 Clemson @ #14 Louisville could be fun, especially early.
Texas @ #4 USC could be a trap game for USC after that outburst against Stanford.
Overall a sort of "catch your breath" week for most teams prior to conference play.
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Post by daywork on Sept 11, 2017 13:38:39 GMT -5
Tennessee vs Florida should be a good game.
I'm looking forward to Clemson vs Louisville. I'm thinking 1st half is close, 2nd half Clemson just takes over.
Duke is going to smash Baylor.
While Texas did have a much better week then week 1. They won't be close to giving USC any issues.
Seeing how bad Texas A&M played on Saturday, UL Lafayette may make this real interesting.
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Post by daywork on Sept 11, 2017 15:48:37 GMT -5
I just looked at the spreads. Clemson is only -3. I'm kind of shocked. I thought it would be atleast -7.5
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Post by sooner2 on Sept 14, 2017 10:23:19 GMT -5
Yes this week is a settle in week. Am interested in clemson Louisville, but cannot help but recalll the kind of shut down that a lsu d line put on Jackson. And that lsu d line was slightly above average at best when compared to big boy programs. This clemson d line??!? It's the best in college football. Alwsy hard to make hard judgements based on bowl games , but I think clemson will be even more effective than lsu was vs Jackson.
Tennessee Florida sets up two struggling programs with delusional fan bases in a matchup that will likely result in one team packing it in and playing the rest of the season for a "winners at the sport of life" tee shirt printing at season's end. I think there is a chance that Florida could look a bit better than they did vs Michigan, but they still could look sloppy without a second game to get in synch prior to this one
Texas could indeed be the team that ruins another team's season. I don't think it will be USCs though. It will be someone in confermce.
Osu Pitt could be an impressive opportunity for osu to shine and impress the esteemed fuckheads in the cfbpc room with a beat down of pitt. Let's hope gundy keeps foot on the gas if they get a lead. Would bet that coach j smith will be there on a recruiting trip to the fertile western pa programs.
Nick gettin testy when asked about lack of vertical qb passing. Interesting. It's a blaring weakness that would result in several lost games for teams not named Alabama. They continue to win games with 14plus points each Saturday from defense and special teams. When will this bite them in the ass???
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Post by daywork on Sept 15, 2017 17:59:57 GMT -5
I'm going with my gut. I think Clemson wins by atleast 7. I know many don't agree.
Ticket#:134751515 Sep 16 05:00 PM INTERNET / -1 Sep 11 03:46 PM CFB STRAIGHT BET [147] CLEMSON -3-105 210 / 200
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Post by Baph on Sept 15, 2017 22:36:26 GMT -5
I think that's a reasonable bet. Louisville has the potential, athletically, offensively, to make it a nail biter, but this early in the season, with the discipline and defensive issues they have, I'd expect Clemson to lock things down as the game wears on and probably win by 10-14 going away. It's a bit of a risk but I'd throw $40 at it without batting an eye.
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 12:12:59 GMT -5
Oklahoma St is looking very good right now. Its just to easy for them right now vs Pitt. 34 - 0 with 11:22 left in the 2nd quarter..
Speaking of Oklahoma, Baph, what part of Oklahoma you from? I have to go to Muskogee OK next month for a meeting. OGE wants me to be a contractor for them in the east Oklahoma area. If I do work for them I'll have to look for apartment complexes in east Ok. Hoping maybe you could tell me about the areas if you live that way.
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Post by daywork on Sept 16, 2017 14:17:04 GMT -5
Great. Baylor decides they want to play better today. They pick the day I bet against them.
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 18:03:06 GMT -5
Bad losses for Nebraska, A&M, and Baylor. Like . . . bad bad.
SMU making a game of it against TCU. Not a good look, despite the eventual win. After handling Arkansas last week was hoping to get a better showing out of TCU. Could be an emotional lull against an easy opponent sandwiched between Ark and OKSt. We'll see.
Are we sure about this Auburn bullshit? Just beat someone called Mercer, 17-10.
Air Force plays Michigan pretty close. Ends up losing 29-13, but there are still some serious quesitons about Michigan for me.
OU tied with Tulane in the 2nd quarter, 14-14. Again likely a TCU style hangover after that big Ohio St road game, but regardless, not a good look.
OKST was on another planet. Last week Pitt went to Penn St and got more offesive yds, more 1st downs, more time of possession, and lost 33-14 @ #4 Penn St. This week they're at home vs. #9 OKST and it's 49-0 with 6 min to go in the first half. Rudolph sets school records for first half passing yards and touchdowns. If Penn St stays ranked above OKST after this apples vs apples, home vs away, common opponent situation with Pitt, someone's gonna have to explain that to me.
I'm gonna wait another week or two before I start spouting off bluster about the best offense in college football, but when this team is clicking . . . man, I've yet to see anything like it. Actually, the other Oklahoma team look like this for a good stretch in the 3rd quarter vs. Ohio St. I will say this, there's not a hotter in-state duo out there right now than the two Oklahoma teams.
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 18:07:14 GMT -5
Oklahoma St is looking very good right now. Its just to easy for them right now vs Pitt. 34 - 0 with 11:22 left in the 2nd quarter.. Speaking of Oklahoma, Baph, what part of Oklahoma you from? I have to go to Muskogee OK next month for a meeting. OGE wants me to be a contractor for them in the east Oklahoma area. If I do work for them I'll have to look for apartment complexes in east Ok. Hoping maybe you could tell me about the areas if you live that way. I'm in the greater OKC metro area. Newcastle. Small town just west of the Moore/Norman corridor. Best recommendation would be to set up shop in/around the Tulsa riverside area. You can be in Muskogee in an hour or so. Tulsa has some great old architecture, some good restaurants, decent night life with a live music scene, two excellent museums, a ballpark, some solid meth, etc.
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 19:15:54 GMT -5
Wow at UCLA falling down against Memphis what little of this game i saw it looked like the bruins were moving the ball at will but apparently couldn't finish out against an AAC team lol
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 19:30:17 GMT -5
OU woke up, but LSU fell back asleep. Interesting day today.
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Post by vegeta420z on Sept 16, 2017 20:06:09 GMT -5
Wow another impressive first half by Oregon. Only gave up 10 points and both were off of shitty turn overs (a botched punt catch by Nelson and a fucked up fumble called against Herbert) Both happening in the red zone for WYO. Other then that Oregon looked good on both sides. Hope they don't shit the bed in the second half like last week against NEB.
Really love the way Justin Herbert seems to be improving more and more each week. Having a relatively easy front half of schedule is kind of nice to get every one up to speed but last half of conference play will be a killer
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Post by Baph on Sept 16, 2017 20:41:01 GMT -5
Tulane's triple option gave OU some problems for a quarter or so. It's hard to stop and the time of possession kind of suppresses the opposing offense as well, but they adjusted, got over the hangover, and finished strong with a blowout 2nd half.
LSU has given up. I mean . . . you can see the body language. They've quit. Wow.
USC and Texas look . . . wow, evenly matched? WTF am I watching here? Scoreless with 10 min left in the half.
Looks like Louisville and Clemson are gonna have a game of it, too. 10-7 Clem currently, 5 min to go in the half with Clemson driving hard.
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