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Post by purerockfury on Jun 3, 2017 10:25:52 GMT -5
I coach minor league baseball, ages 8-11. These kids are ridiculously soft. I bet we have 5 cries a game. kid strikes out, cries. they caught his fly ball, cries. Umpire made a bad call, cries. Doesn't get to play the position he wants, cries. gets thrown out at home, cries. They. all. fucking. cry. It's unbelievable. If i ever cried during a game, I guarantee I would have been on the receiving end of an ass whooping after the game.
They are also spoiled morons. I've had to ban all food, sun flower seeds, and candy from the dugout because it was all a big distraction. I've confiscated fidget spinners, cell phones, wallets, a deck of cards, and action figures.
I had a kid ask ( in the middle of an inning) to be removed because his fucking sock was uncomfortable and he could not concentrate. He's 11. Both he and his dad thought he should have made the major league team. lol
Kids need 10 million things today and can't apply their mind to one thing. The attention span has to be at a historical low point for the human race.
With all that being said, if we win on tuesday, we clinch a first round bye for the end of the year tournament. Still incredibly frustrating dealing with 14 kids (and their parents) every day.
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Post by boboplata on Jun 3, 2017 10:43:47 GMT -5
I feel sorry for you. I hope you get paid handsomely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 10:48:12 GMT -5
There's no crying in baseball.
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Post by boboplata on Jun 3, 2017 10:56:37 GMT -5
There's no crying in baseball. Well, the coach is doing it online.
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Post by purerockfury on Jun 3, 2017 10:59:59 GMT -5
There's no crying in baseball. Well, the coach is doing it online. Ha! dick. It was either bitch to a forum or start delivering stone cold stunners to them.
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Post by Premier on Jun 3, 2017 11:30:33 GMT -5
We complain now about this current generation in their 20s. How entitled and pussies they are.
Those kids are going to be even worse.
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Post by purerockfury on Jun 3, 2017 11:41:59 GMT -5
We complain now about this current generation in their 20s. How entitled and pussies they are. Those kids are going to be even worse. I agree. I've had parents come in to the dugout in between innings just to tell little Timmy that he did his best and they were proud of him even though he struck out. Put a stop to that shit too. Unless their kid is bleeding or puking, no parents in the dugout.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 12:48:29 GMT -5
It will be one of the elements of our downfall. Providing safe spaces from failure. Such a bunch of bullshit.
You never get better if you always succeed. And your parents will love you whether you hit a home run or strike out.
Everyone wants to be the best. But you don't become the best without tasting failure. Especially in a game like baseball where you can be considered one of the best of all time if you hit the ball 4 times out of 10 everyday.
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Post by Premier on Jun 3, 2017 12:57:45 GMT -5
We complain now about this current generation in their 20s. How entitled and pussies they are. Those kids are going to be even worse. I agree. I've had parents come in to the dugout in between innings just to tell little Timmy that he did his best and they were proud of him even though he struck out. Put a stop to that shit too. Unless their kid is bleeding or puking, no parents in the dugout. Same parents that are into "participation trophies". Hope they haven't made you do that yet.
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Post by Fasthands25 on Jun 3, 2017 15:07:57 GMT -5
I remember my little league days...
People today in general are way too fuckin soft. My friends especially entitled, really grinds my fucking gears.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 15:30:20 GMT -5
75% of this country are soft and emotionally immature. I hope you lose it and beat some testosterone in to them
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Post by Canuklehead on Jun 5, 2017 11:02:44 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I've got double duty right now coaching soccer and baseball for my sons teams and it can be infuriating.
I have 2 kids on the baseball team that want to play catcher but it's only a matter of time till one takes a ball to the chest or legs and starts to cry. After the second time this happened I told them maybe they should skip catcher and stick to other positions. One of their parents pulled me aside after practice and said this wasn't fair and we should just rotate everyone through so they all get a turn. That is what we had been doing to start but since the kids scream bloody murder when the ball hits them and we need to stop the game/practice so they can go get hugs from their mommies we went a different route. If my son did that (and we've talked about it) it would be the last time he was behind the plate and he knows it.
I volunteer because I enjoy it and just watching the games and listening to the parents complain and gossip is unbearable to me. It's an exercise in patience every day and mostly it's the parents that suck so I'd rather be out there with the kids.
Good on you for volunteering your time.
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Post by MMAJim on Jun 5, 2017 11:09:12 GMT -5
Go with Figure Skating. Kid is out there by themselves, parents can't even get out there. My daughter (6) fell on her ass in her last competition for the first time ever (in competition). Instantly popped up and kept skating and finished her routine. Proud moment. One that I know a lot of kids don't get any more bc of the content of the OP.
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Post by johncfc on Jun 5, 2017 11:40:28 GMT -5
I coach kids soccer and the first year it was a pain in the ass with some kids and their parents.
It's been much more enjoyable since I started disciplining kids (sitting them out or sending them to sit with their parents).
I'm very patient and positive with any kid who is participating, regardless of skill level. I won't tolerate any kids who think they can do whatever they want when we are practicing (shooting at the net, hitting/pushing other kids, throwing grass at others).
I warn them once. Second time they sit on the bench. Third time they have to find their parent and bring them back to me to discuss the matter and find a solution.
Not surprisingly, most of the parents want their kids with me because their kids have fun and need a little structure. You know, their kids are actually playing soccer, improving their skills and getting some exercise.
The other parents hate my guts, but I refuse to have to parent their child because they don't want to set any boundaries.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 11:55:44 GMT -5
Pure rock fury is my kind of coach. Hats off to you for standing your ground.
In my experiencr dealing with kids, I find that most of their parents need some discipline more than the kids do.
When kids come over to our place for get together's...some will get bummed that we don't stock crap food or have a video game system going on. It's all playing outside in this household. My nephew is used to that and is used to eating real food. There is no candy or fast food with us.
My friends that come out to the river with us think it's OK to feed their kid hot dogs for breakfast. And the kid will scream unless she gets a hot dog. She's never gotten a hot dog for breakfast under our roof. My girl refuse's everytime.
Yeah, kids suck. And I'm trying to start having them hahahahaha.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 12:30:57 GMT -5
The thread should be entitled "parents today suck" because that's the real problem here.
You guys who donate time to do this deserve a medal.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jun 5, 2017 12:52:52 GMT -5
My nephews are fat video game addicts who never go outside. My oldest nephew is 14, 6'4 and about 270lbs of fat soft blubber. Good kid but if his parents had motivated him early on he couldve been a good athlete. I woulda sold my soul for those genetics. Hes a good student and well mannered kid but a genuine pussy physically and emotionally.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 16:43:26 GMT -5
Lucid/coherent CB in da house!
How many days sober now, CB?
....and congratulations.
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Post by Baph on Jun 6, 2017 0:25:06 GMT -5
I guess every generation does this. That's what I keep hearing. But holy fuck, do kids suck these days. I deal with a fair number of high school and college athletes and they are fucking worthless. I'm talking about college kids who don't know their SSN or mailing address and can't figure out how to get it, and they want me to do it. You can see the complete shock on their faces when I belt out a full-bellied laugh. Has nobody held up a mirror to your ridiculousness, young man? Have you really existed 20 years on this planet without anyone telling you "no" or "fuck off"? Are you legitimately surrounded by coddling sycophants from the moment of your birth until today? Then today will be the greatest day of your heretofore nonsensical life, because I will do you the high service that so many along the way have neglected to impart: I will teach you survival.
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Post by boboplata on Jun 6, 2017 1:33:01 GMT -5
I guess every generation does this. That's what I keep hearing. But holy fuck, do kids suck these days. I deal with a fair number of high school and college athletes and they are fucking worthless. I'm talking about college kids who don't know their SSN or mailing address and can't figure out how to get it, and they want me to do it. You can see the complete shock on their faces when I belt out a full-bellied laugh. Has nobody held up a mirror to your ridiculousness, young man? Have you really existed 20 years on this planet without anyone telling you "no" or "fuck off"? Are you legitimately surrounded by coddling sycophants from the moment of your birth until today? Then today will be the greatest day of your heretofore nonsensical life, because I will do you the high service that so many along the way have neglected to impart: I will teach you survival. TLDR: Prepare your anus.
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Post by CaveBearOG on Jun 6, 2017 7:19:28 GMT -5
Lucid/coherent CB in da house! How many days sober now, CB? ....and congratulations. Thanks cyber , if I make it thru the day, it'll be 55 days. Feeling good, making progress on deep rooted issues I didnt think actually bothered me. Got a Hudvash Housing voucher, basically Housing partially funded by the VA. They kinda keep an eye on you. Looking for a place here in NY right now. Be well. Bear.
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Post by Elissa on Jun 6, 2017 11:11:49 GMT -5
I guess every generation does this. That's what I keep hearing. But holy fuck, do kids suck these days. I deal with a fair number of high school and college athletes and they are fucking worthless. I'm talking about college kids who don't know their SSN or mailing address and can't figure out how to get it, and they want me to do it. You can see the complete shock on their faces when I belt out a full-bellied laugh. Has nobody held up a mirror to your ridiculousness, young man? Have you really existed 20 years on this planet without anyone telling you "no" or "fuck off"? Are you legitimately surrounded by coddling sycophants from the moment of your birth until today? Then today will be the greatest day of your heretofore nonsensical life, because I will do you the high service that so many along the way have neglected to impart: I will teach you survival. THIS! Teenagers and young adults are the most entitled, spoiled, selfish little shits going. There's the odd diamond in the rough, but 95% of the kids I deal with, or have dealt with recently, are useless. They have no idea what is going on around them, they think that they are special and unique and whatever else their parents filled their heads with. To quote the great G.R.R. Martin - words are wind... so these parents have filled their kids heads with air instead of brains. When I was a kid, and played baseball, there were definitely participation trophies. However, one was ashamed AF to get one of those. It wasn't an award - it was a constant reminder that we failed and needed to be better. When I was a kid and asked my parents to do something for me - they told me to figure it out, that they wouldn't always be there to hold my hand through this shit. My mom spend hours drilling the multiplication tables with me until I was in tears (frustration) because, damn it, one day I might need to buy 4 books at $8 each and she did not want me having to carry a calculator in my pocket as an adult (before cell phones lol) to figure out purchase prices. Independence was forced upon me and I'm damn better for it. No shit, one prof who became more of a friend than a prof told me that he gets emails from parents who want to know their kids grades. OR, if the kid got a lower grade, wanted to know why their precious gem of a child didn't get an A, while implying (or outright stating) that it was HIS fault. It all drives me fucking nuts. We are not inherently special or unique - we are all just people trying to make a life. What makes us special is what we do with what we are given, and not enough kids hear that these days.
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Post by Baph on Jun 6, 2017 14:05:57 GMT -5
Perhaps the best parenting advice I ever received: never do something for your kid that they can do for themselves. This is difficult, almost unnatural at times, but it's pure gold in terms of results. Doing things for your kids feels good, but it robs them of development, cripples their durability, and undermines their independence and problem solving.
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Post by Angelo on Jun 6, 2017 15:22:03 GMT -5
Perhaps the best parenting advice I ever received: never do something for your kid that they can do for themselves. This is difficult, almost unnatural at times, but it's pure gold in terms of results. Doing things for your kids feels good, but it robs them of development, cripples their durability, and undermines their independence and problem solving. One of the issues I think with today's youth and millennials though is that it is no longer possible to do what their parents could do. This is leading them to no longer being able to link being responsible with anything good/worthwhile. Being responsible in the past did everything from develop your skills/abilities, let you provide yourself with an education, food, a house. In other words being responsible meant you could live a decent life and you got something of it. It used to be that way anyways. Now, housing, food and education costs have all skyrocketed by mid hundred s of percents while average wages are damn near stagnant. No longer is being responsible, getting a job, going to school, etc... enough to live for most people anymore. So they are now asking themselves what's the point. They can live the responsible life, take risks, toughen up, whatever, but it won't matter for most people anymore. They'll still wind up in shitty apartments or flop houses, in debt for the rest of their life, likely bouncing from temporary job to temporary job, and living on food that gonna kill them early while never having more than 400$ in savings (and decreasing) in their life. That's the direction we are headed and why we need to really change the way this country is run. There needs to be rewards for doing what was expected of us, otherwise why do them? Of course they want to be spoiled, they don't have another option anymore.
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Post by johncfc on Jun 6, 2017 16:04:39 GMT -5
I guess fetus' suck too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 16:51:35 GMT -5
Perhaps the best parenting advice I ever received: never do something for your kid that they can do for themselves. This is difficult, almost unnatural at times, but it's pure gold in terms of results. Doing things for your kids feels good, but it robs them of development, cripples their durability, and undermines their independence and problem solving. One of the issues I think with today's youth and millennials though is that it is no longer possible to do what their parents could do. This is leading them to no longer being able to link being responsible with anything good/worthwhile. Being responsible in the past did everything from develop your skills/abilities, let you provide yourself with an education, food, a house. In other words being responsible meant you could live a decent life and you got something of it. It used to be that way anyways. Now, housing, food and education costs have all skyrocketed by mid hundred s of percents while average wages are damn near stagnant. No longer is being responsible, getting a job, going to school, etc... enough to live for most people anymore. So they are now asking themselves what's the point. They can live the responsible life, take risks, toughen up, whatever, but it won't matter for most people anymore. They'll still wind up in shitty apartments or flop houses, in debt for the rest of their life, likely bouncing from temporary job to temporary job, and living on food that gonna kill them early while never having more than 400$ in savings (and decreasing) in their life. That's the direction we are headed and why we need to really change the way this country is run. There needs to be rewards for doing what was expected of us, otherwise why do them? Of course they want to be spoiled, they don't have another option anymore. Another inspirational message from Angelo Jackoff:
"it's all rigged against you man....so why bother?"
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Post by Angelo on Jun 6, 2017 16:59:09 GMT -5
One of the issues I think with today's youth and millennials though is that it is no longer possible to do what their parents could do. This is leading them to no longer being able to link being responsible with anything good/worthwhile. Being responsible in the past did everything from develop your skills/abilities, let you provide yourself with an education, food, a house. In other words being responsible meant you could live a decent life and you got something of it. It used to be that way anyways. Now, housing, food and education costs have all skyrocketed by mid hundred s of percents while average wages are damn near stagnant. No longer is being responsible, getting a job, going to school, etc... enough to live for most people anymore. So they are now asking themselves what's the point. They can live the responsible life, take risks, toughen up, whatever, but it won't matter for most people anymore. They'll still wind up in shitty apartments or flop houses, in debt for the rest of their life, likely bouncing from temporary job to temporary job, and living on food that gonna kill them early while never having more than 400$ in savings (and decreasing) in their life. That's the direction we are headed and why we need to really change the way this country is run. There needs to be rewards for doing what was expected of us, otherwise why do them? Of course they want to be spoiled, they don't have another option anymore. Another inspirational message from Angelo Jackoff:
"it's all rigged against you man....so why bother?"
That is the thinking among the newer generation though. How do we combat this? We can't turn around and say your parents did it, so can you, as that axiom is no longer true, not even close to being true anymore for an overwhelming majority of the population under 30. That said, and probably coming up the way I did, knowing it is rigged doesn't matter to me. I'll keep trying in hopes I'm one of the few that can make it. It is annoying though that just getting by is off the table for most people nowadays because of politics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 3:52:25 GMT -5
Another inspirational message from Angelo Jackoff:
"it's all rigged against you man....so why bother?"
That is the thinking among the newer generation though. How do we combat this? We can't turn around and say your parents did it, so can you, as that axiom is no longer true, not even close to being true anymore for an overwhelming majority of the population under 30. That said, and probably coming up the way I did, knowing it is rigged doesn't matter to me. I'll keep trying in hopes I'm one of the few that can make it. It is annoying though that just getting by is off the table for most people nowadays because of politics. This is fucking hilarious. The guy that doesn't do shit except sit on his ass and mooch off his girl is saying the world is rigged against him and he just might make it.... How? Winning a fucking scratcher from money you bummed from Sporty? Why not cash in that winning lottery ticket of a Pizza parlor name or blackmail your cousin (or brother, or whomever it was, I can't keep all of your lying straight).
You know how you make it in today's world? You fucking work for it. You don't go to college just because "it is the right thing to do" and get a worthless degree in gender studies or new wave feminism battling the patriarchy where you come out qualified for two things: jack and shit with sixty thousand dollars in debt. You go into a field that is high in demand or you go into a competitive field and work your fucking ass off to become the best at what you do.
Or... OR you say fuck college, it isn't worth it and go into a fucking trade school and become a plumber making 50K plus a year or an electrician, or a mechanic. You go to Walmart distribution and sling boxes on the weekend for 16 bucks an hour and put yourself through school if you finally find something you like. You understand that the world doesn't deal in hand-outs and if you truly want to succeed you will find a way to do it.
Shit like this and people like you are what is wrong with this fucking world. Always a god damn victim with no control over your life. I was damn near thirty when I decided to go back for a second degree in a field that is in demand. I worked weekend nights and worked through my master's program during the week. I was putting in 50 + hours between work and clinical and that doesn't even count homework I had to do. I was working on Saturday night and dragging my ass out of bed Monday morning to go to the office and finish my degree. I am not special, I am not some great success story, I just did what I had to do in order to get to a place I wanted to be. I have caught some breaks along the way but most if not all of those were due to the circumstances I placed myself in and not because I had some rich relative or somebody paying my ride. So please just shut the fuck up about the rigged world. It is total nonsense. you could get a job tomorrow, shit people have all but handed you jobs that you snub your nose at so shove this woe is me attitude up your ass you piece of worthless shit.
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Post by purerockfury on Jun 7, 2017 3:54:27 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I've got double duty right now coaching soccer and baseball for my sons teams and it can be infuriating. I have 2 kids on the baseball team that want to play catcher but it's only a matter of time till one takes a ball to the chest or legs and starts to cry. After the second time this happened I told them maybe they should skip catcher and stick to other positions. One of their parents pulled me aside after practice and said this wasn't fair and we should just rotate everyone through so they all get a turn. That is what we had been doing to start but since the kids scream bloody murder when the ball hits them and we need to stop the game/practice so they can go get hugs from their mommies we went a different route. If my son did that (and we've talked about it) it would be the last time he was behind the plate and he knows it. I volunteer because I enjoy it and just watching the games and listening to the parents complain and gossip is unbearable to me. It's an exercise in patience every day and mostly it's the parents that suck so I'd rather be out there with the kids. Good on you for volunteering your time. Ha! We had to beg a couple kids to catch. Finally my assistant coach made his boy catch and he is doing a hell of a job. He's only 8 so he doesnt throw many kids out trying to steal, but he is doing great behind the plate. This is my second year coaching and both years I've pulled the parents together and told them that they all had a chance to volunteer as a coach and since they didn't, I'll assume that I will not hear anything from them during the season. For the most part it works out, but every now and then one of them has to be told the truth about their precious billy baseball and why he isn't playing shortstop. Most parents think their kids are all stars yet only a few of them actually practice with their kids at home.
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