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Post by ocmmafan on May 5, 2017 14:59:29 GMT -5
Thought this was good timing and I hope he wins. www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/05/05/american-airlines-sued-by-man-cramped-by-obese-passengers.htmlAnyone have sympathy for the airline or fat people that invade a 2nd seat? What's the answer? I don't think anyone should be asked or expected to raise the arm rest between seats. it's unfair, makes travel uncomfortable and allows the airlines to live with these smaller than fuck seats. But I also hate being a passenger seated next to a fat ass and I admit I have raised my arm rest to make the fatty more comfortable. The alternative is putting it down when they raise it or saying no and looking like a dick. Most people are thinking "fuck, this sucks" but won't actually deny them. All that does is give the airline more power and fucks the consumer, so it's a dumb strategy for all of us. Airlines are supposed to charge large people for a 2nd seat but how often do they? I imagine very rarely. No one wants to fat shame the person waddling onto the plane at 350 pounds, but its going to keep happening until we revolt.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 15:44:43 GMT -5
You take up two seats, pay for two.
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Post by daywork on May 5, 2017 16:05:24 GMT -5
My mother-inlaw is a big person. I use to fly her out here to TX to dog/house sit for us so we can go on vacation. I would buy her a 1st class ticket just so something like this wouldn't happen to her (ooz into the 2nd seat).
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Post by Baph on May 5, 2017 16:23:22 GMT -5
There is, quite clearly, a pile-on afoot for major airline litigation.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 17:40:19 GMT -5
It is a now win for the airline though. They let fatties do this and normal size people get pissed at fatties oozing into their seats and if they charge the fatties for two seats (like they should) then they are fay shaming, heartless bigots.
Fuck a bunch of fatties and thay bullshit.
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Post by matt on May 5, 2017 20:25:21 GMT -5
If a fat person is sitting in your seat with you, then I'm not sure why you'd have to pay full price for your seat..since you're obviously not getting what you paid for. Maybe the answer is to offer a discount to a person who's seat is being encroached. Thus not hurting the fattie's little fragile tiny little feelings.
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Post by Fasthands25 on May 5, 2017 20:34:26 GMT -5
Eat less, move more. Boom ya only gotta buy 1 ticket.
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Post by jamesod on May 6, 2017 7:59:53 GMT -5
I've never had to raise my armrest for a fat person sitting next to me. I don't think I'd be at all OK with that - I've got a personal space issue.
I agree with Daywork - if you don't fit in your seat the easy solution is to buy first class. Sure, the additional cost sucks but them's the breaks. You don't see Shaq buying a prius. He wouldn't fit. And besides, on most flights these days first class isn't THAT expensive. Not like it was 15 years ago where a regular ticket might be $300 and a first class ticket would be $1800.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 8:13:53 GMT -5
You don't see Shaq buying a prius. He wouldn't fit. Ever see his Buick commercial, where he jokes about having SHOES bigger than the vehicle he's hawking?....with the camera in-close, to distract from the fact his seat is ALL the way back into the rear-passenger compartment?
I guess he'd never buy a Buick either. But he'll sell ya one....
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Post by FAQer on May 6, 2017 8:46:20 GMT -5
I had someone overflow into my seat on a flight from NY to Memphis. His demeanor made it clear that this was a regular thing for him and he was just fine with it. I got annoyed, but then thought that maybe he was just pretending to be okay with it because he has a legit eating problem and can't stop. I got up to use the bathroom and told the attendant that I was claustrophobic (slightly true) and she got me moved before we took off. Not sure how it would have gone down if I didn't get a new seat. I probably would have just jammed my elbow into his spillage and made it his problem.
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Post by MMAJim on May 6, 2017 18:21:33 GMT -5
I've been large enough in the past (305ish) to be self conscious about my girth, though I wasn't spilling yet. At about 225 now and its damn roomy in there. After I had shrunk down I did end up next to a differently proportioned gal, at least 300+ and 5'5" is. It spilled, it sucks but I did feel compassion. I'd guess that more people feel shitty that they're spilling and can't afford to ( or haven't thought it through enough) to buy two or get first class. It's like everything though, I'm sure there are bigs that are pricks and just expect everyone to accommodate them. I'm just glad it wasn't the big version of me in that situation, that would have been big on big crime. At least in this case I had a little room to retreat.
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Post by Angelo on May 6, 2017 19:55:16 GMT -5
Every extremely obese person I know has always either gone first class or had to buy a 2nd ticket. Well almost every, one of them the airline didn't make them buy a 2nd (they actually gave them the extra seat free I think Southwest) because it was from a legit medical condition and not personal choices.
If this guy wins in court though, it likely because AA was breaking the law. If the passengers were spilling over to that much of an extent, not only were they breaking AA policy on overweight passengers, but AA was breaking the FAA safety regulations on armrests. Delta is the only major US airline that skirts the safety regulations. Chances are this is some guy just trying to make use of the quick settlements between everything happening lately and the over-settle rate of the US civil system.
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Post by slaytan on May 6, 2017 20:12:08 GMT -5
I have a lot f sympathy for the obese, but they should buy a second seat. I wouldn't be bothered with airplane ticket prices going by weight like freight
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 8:46:23 GMT -5
Every extremely obese person I know has always either gone first class or had to buy a 2nd ticket. Well almost every, one of them the airline didn't make them buy a 2nd (they actually gave them the extra seat free I think Southwest) because it was from a legit medical condition and not personal choices. If this guy wins in court though, it likely because AA was breaking the law. If the passengers were spilling over to that much of an extent, not only were they breaking AA policy on overweight passengers, but AA was breaking the FAA safety regulations on armrests. Delta is the only major US airline that skirts the safety regulations. Chances are this is some guy just trying to make use of the quick settlements between everything happening lately and the over-settle rate of the US civil system. I love how you always have experience with almost any topic. Yeah, all my fatty friends had to pay for two seats except Albert on his Southwest flight to LA back in December of 2014. How would you even know? How many fat friends do you have that fly regularly and offer that information to you? How doesn't hay come up in conversation? Hey, uh Roseanne,you flying to Delaware tomorrow, right? Did they make your fat ass buy one or two tickets? Or, Hey Angelo, going to LA tomorrow, can you believe Delta charged ne two seats because my fat rolls over into the second seat? I have plenty of fat friends that fly and I simply cannot imagine this conversation happening once, much less multiple times to the point where you can remember the one outlier that got a free seat. Your know, because they showed them their medical records for POS or hypothyroidism... Just shut the fuck up Jackel
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 8:55:24 GMT -5
I had to buy seats for my three and one year old that they hardly used, because when you occupy a seat, you fuckin pay for them. Period.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:22:57 GMT -5
I am tired of fat being considered a disability. A disability is Multiple Sclerosis or missing a leg... not stuffing your face because you are weak with no will power. If your fat ass doesn't fit in a 2' wide seat, spend the money for an extra seat, and with less money in your pocket to spend you might lose weight and avoid this in the future.
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Post by Angelo on May 11, 2017 1:36:36 GMT -5
I am tired of fat being considered a disability. A disability is Multiple Sclerosis or missing a leg... not stuffing your face because you are weak with no will power. If your fat ass doesn't fit in a 2' wide seat, spend the money for an extra seat, and with less money in your pocket to spend you might lose weight and avoid this in the future. And this is why most airlines will give you the 2nd seat for free if you have a legit medical condition, and instead charge you for the 2nd seat (because of FAA safety regulations) if you don't.
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Post by boboplata on May 11, 2017 2:16:48 GMT -5
I've been large enough in the past (305ish) to be self conscious about my girth, though I wasn't spilling yet. At about 225 now and its damn roomy in there. After I had shrunk down I did end up next to a differently proportioned gal, at least 300+ and 5'5" is. It spilled, it sucks but I did feel compassion. I'd guess that more people feel shitty that they're spilling and can't afford to ( or haven't thought it through enough) to buy two or get first class. It's like everything though, I'm sure there are bigs that are pricks and just expect everyone to accommodate them. I'm just glad it wasn't the big version of me in that situation, that would have been big on big crime. At least in this case I had a little room to retreat. Kudos for losing all that weight. But yeah, if you were 305 & the 300+ behemoth sat beside you, you guys might have fused together.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 6:23:40 GMT -5
I am tired of fat being considered a disability. A disability is Multiple Sclerosis or missing a leg... not stuffing your face because you are weak with no will power. If your fat ass doesn't fit in a 2' wide seat, spend the money for an extra seat, and with less money in your pocket to spend you might lose weight and avoid this in the future. And this is why most airlines will give you the 2nd seat for free if you have a legit medical condition, and instead charge you for the 2nd seat (because of FAA safety regulations) if you don't. Do you like to just make shit up all the time? www.cheapair.com/blog/travel-tips/airline-policies-for-overweight-passengers-traveling-this-summer/Nowhere is medical condition mentioned in getting a free second seat on any of the airlines mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 6:48:55 GMT -5
That's why I keep this fucker on ignore. There are only 24 hours in a day, I just don't have time to constantly read made up bullshit and "look at me" attention whore posts.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 6:54:01 GMT -5
I am tired of fat being considered a disability. A disability is Multiple Sclerosis or missing a leg... not stuffing your face because you are weak with no will power. If your fat ass doesn't fit in a 2' wide seat, spend the money for an extra seat, and with less money in your pocket to spend you might lose weight and avoid this in the future. And this is why most airlines will give you the 2nd seat for free if you have a legit medical condition, and instead charge you for the 2nd seat (because of FAA safety regulations) if you don't. ...And just HOW, pray tell, does the obese passenger justify getting the extra seat for free, due to their "medical condition?"
Is there a Free Extra Seat for Fatty card that they carry, and simply flash at the ticket counter?
Or does the obese person carry around his or her medical records to justify the claim? Or carry a note from their doctor? Perhaps they carry proof of membership in Weight Watchers?
Does an EXTREMELY overweight guy (500-pounds or more....talkin' morbid obesity here) get TWO extra seats? One on either side?
For that matter, I'd be interested in knowing just exactly WHAT medical reasons/conditions exist that trigger eligibility for such "status" versus those that do NOT.
Please elaborate or provide a link. I'm all ears.
Or perhaps Hughmungus's suggestion is most appropriate. It's your call.
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Post by Angelo on May 11, 2017 11:08:30 GMT -5
I know they don't have to, but Southwest and JetBlue has both in the past done it for a friend of mine upon request when they were being made to buy an extra ticket. I imagine most of the other airlines would too especially if they have extra seats available.
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Post by ocmmafan on May 11, 2017 11:10:27 GMT -5
That's why I keep this fucker on ignore. There are only 24 hours in a day, I just don't have time to constantly read made up bullshit and "look at me" attention whore posts. Do we have an ignore feature?? If so, please share how to do it.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:51:22 GMT -5
Just click on the member's name, and then click on the gear icon to the right and click "block member." I was very anti-blocking people at the old place, but I would have quit this forum had it not been for this feature. Luckily I've only had to use it for one esteemed member of the boards so far, but visiting here is much better this way.
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Post by ocmmafan on May 11, 2017 11:58:34 GMT -5
Just click on the member's name, and then click on the gear icon to the right and click "block member." I was very anti-blocking people at the old place, but I would have quit this forum had it not been for this feature. Luckily I've only had to use it for one esteemed member of the boards so far, but visiting here is much better this way. fantastic! And now in use.
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Post by jamesod on May 11, 2017 12:11:41 GMT -5
I know they don't have to, but Southwest and JetBlue has both in the past done it for a friend of mine upon request when they were being made to buy an extra ticket. I imagine most of the other airlines would too especially if they have extra seats available. No they haven't. They key phrase in your post is "I imagine." You should start all of your posts with that.
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Post by johncfc on May 11, 2017 16:42:27 GMT -5
I know they don't have to, but Southwest and JetBlue has both in the past done it for a friend of mine upon request when they were being made to buy an extra ticket. I imagine most of the other airlines would too especially if they have extra seats available. No they haven't. They key phrase in your post is "I imagine." You should start all of your posts with that. You forgot to mention the patented Jackel move of using a friend as an example. You're slipping.
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Post by Angelo on May 11, 2017 16:46:11 GMT -5
Whatever, it happened, you don't want to believe, don't believe it, it doesn't change that it happened.
And as I pointed out earlier, it likely this suit is a bunch of BS because if it was as bad as the Aussie is saying, AA was breaking FAA regulations and it would have been a very quick settlement.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:43:44 GMT -5
Did they only give him the free seat after the flight attendant was table-faced by your Mooslim friend???
Fucking liar.
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Post by johncfc on May 11, 2017 17:58:47 GMT -5
Whatever, it happened, you don't want to believe, don't believe it, it doesn't change that it happened. And as I pointed out earlier, it likely this suit is a bunch of BS because if it was as bad as the Aussie is saying, AA was breaking FAA regulations and it would have been a very quick settlement. Jackel and his stories..... Jackel and his stories....
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