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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 5, 2016 20:52:06 GMT -5
Them little ass dudes are boring as fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 23:24:16 GMT -5
Them little ass dudes are boring as fuck. You are completely nuts. Did you watch the first round of Eliot vs DJ or the Cejudo/Benavidez fight or ANY of the last season of TUF where almost EVERY fight ended in a finish?? If you did and thought that they boring, but enjoy slow fat dudes gassing out at 265lbs, I just might have to revoke your license to watch MMA lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 23:37:07 GMT -5
Dude had one good round against mighty mouse and toehold is ready to put him in the top 5. He also went 5 rounds with someone who can usually finish people fast. He neutralized much of his ground and pound, even from sidemount using some great techinques I think he learned from Jaiver Vasquez, some of which I've been privileged to learn, and stopped all his sub atempts and dropped mighty mouse, took him down a few times, almost subbed him, etc. Who else can you think of who did that well or better against mighty mouse? There's no reason to believe he can't be ranked AT LEAST in the top 10 if not top 5 at Flyweight. I think he'd do quite well against the likes of Cejudo, Formiga, Horiguchi, Mcall. Dodson and Mccovsky couldn't finish him either. Let's say top 7 then. Wanna do a gentleman's bet that within a year he'll be ranked no lower than #7?? I'll remember it if you will. I have a good memory. I think there's no reason to assume someone that someone that gave that much of a war to DJ might not make the top 5. He was Benavidez's top pick for a reason, and as I remember he even gave him a little trouble. I also followed your link, and did not see anything saying for sure he was staying at 135lbs. I think he can be in the top 10 at Flyweight, and at least the top 15 at bantam weight.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 10:24:20 GMT -5
Dude had one good round against mighty mouse and toehold is ready to put him in the top 5. He also went 5 rounds with someone who can usually finish people fast. He neutralized much of his ground and pound, even from sidemount using some great techinques I think he learned from Jaiver Vasquez, some of which I've been privileged to learn, and stopped all his sub atempts and dropped mighty mouse, took him down a few times, almost subbed him, etc. Who else can you think of who did that well or better against mighty mouse? There's no reason to believe he can't be ranked AT LEAST in the top 10 if not top 5 at Flyweight. I think he'd do quite well against the likes of Cejudo, Formiga, Horiguchi, Mcall. Dodson and Mccovsky couldn't finish him either. Let's say top 7 then. Wanna do a gentleman's bet that within a year he'll be ranked no lower than #7?? I'll remember it if you will. I have a good memory. I think there's no reason to assume someone that someone that gave that much of a war to DJ might not make the top 5. He was Benavidez's top pick for a reason, and as I remember he even gave him a little trouble. I also followed your link, and did not see anything saying for sure he was staying at 135lbs. I think he can be in the top 10 at Flyweight, and at least the top 15 at bantam weight. I'll bet you $500 that he's out of the ufc within 3 fights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 19:47:55 GMT -5
He also went 5 rounds with someone who can usually finish people fast. He neutralized much of his ground and pound, even from sidemount using some great techinques I think he learned from Jaiver Vasquez, some of which I've been privileged to learn, and stopped all his sub atempts and dropped mighty mouse, took him down a few times, almost subbed him, etc. Who else can you think of who did that well or better against mighty mouse? There's no reason to believe he can't be ranked AT LEAST in the top 10 if not top 5 at Flyweight. I think he'd do quite well against the likes of Cejudo, Formiga, Horiguchi, Mcall. Dodson and Mccovsky couldn't finish him either. Let's say top 7 then. Wanna do a gentleman's bet that within a year he'll be ranked no lower than #7?? I'll remember it if you will. I have a good memory. I think there's no reason to assume someone that someone that gave that much of a war to DJ might not make the top 5. He was Benavidez's top pick for a reason, and as I remember he even gave him a little trouble. I also followed your link, and did not see anything saying for sure he was staying at 135lbs. I think he can be in the top 10 at Flyweight, and at least the top 15 at bantam weight. I'll bet you $500 that he's out of the ufc within 3 fights. I've told you and many others betting money is always something I've avoided. I can have an addictive personality at times and once you've done something like that once I can imagine it could become a habit. I'll just give you a gentleman's bet, if that's not good enough, fine. IF he fights at 135lbs you could very well be right. But if he sticks to 125lbs that's unlikely ESPECIALLY seeing as how popular he has now become and his wild fun style to watch even in a LOSING effort. Even if people think top 10 is an over statement, top 15 is totally do able and will probably keep him in there. Hell, they even need guys ranked lower than that. I don't think a division can be in very good shape at all without at least 20 active fighters or else everyone is essentially ranked seeing as some cites even consider being at #15 somewhat noteworthy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 11:17:17 GMT -5
I already posted the link for you. The man said himself he's moving to 135, he quit in the sauna DURING A TITLE FIGHT.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 21:43:44 GMT -5
I already posted the link for you. The man said himself he's moving to 135, he quit in the sauna DURING A TITLE FIGHT. Hmm, I'm gonna have to go back and look at where I missed it. I clicked on a few of the links that came up from yours and didn't see it. If he goes to 135lbs I don't like his prospects much. I mean he made 125lbs for TUF so I guess he can, but if he quit during a title fight then it's too hard for him. That sucks. I like the guy. I'm wishing him well regardless.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 8, 2016 12:34:11 GMT -5
Not one person on the planet cares about these tiny people fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 13:17:18 GMT -5
I have to agree with Loco, much as it pains me. Don't put the midgets on a pedestal.
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Post by ocmmafan on Dec 8, 2016 13:57:22 GMT -5
Mighty Mouse has cleaned house so effectively he helped send the two other "best" and "exciting" 125ers to 135. Without Dodson and Lineker, 125 has too few exciting fighters. I know Lineker can't make weight but why would be even try? No one is touching MM at 125. Being left with Benavidez and Cejudo at the top of 125 leaves a lot to be desired. There is not really any 125 pound fight I care about right now and I am usually one to defend these smaller fighters.
The TUF idea was good and their are some solid fighters that the UFC can add from the show, but it's the worst division because of the dominating champion.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 8, 2016 17:26:18 GMT -5
If your best 125 pounder can't finish a dude that no one has ever heard of, it's time to get rid of the class altogether.
The UFC gives such a little fuck about it, they put it on a card and spent $15 on advertising.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 14:34:23 GMT -5
If your best 125 pounder can't finish a dude that no one has ever heard of, it's time to get rid of the class altogether. The UFC gives such a little fuck about it, they put it on a card and spent $15 on advertising. Wow, they actually spent money advertising it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 21:26:25 GMT -5
Not one person on the planet cares about these tiny people fighting. Except me and there's DEFINITELY more. Did you even watch the last season of TUF? Just answer me, cause I'm pretty sure you didn't and if you did you'd have liked it. I think the problem with you is you decide you will not like watching them AHEAD of time, you don't think it cause you watch carefully, you just stubbornly decide you will hate it. What's the lightest weight class you actually enjoy watching? Do you enjoy 135lbs? Like TJ Dillashaw, Cruz, Barao?? Cause if so, then that would be retarded not to like the 125ers cause they are just 10lbs lighter. If 10lbs is the difference between you liking a fight and not liking it, that's crazy. I just think you honestly can't appreciate real skill in MMA, because if you could you wouldn't care the size of the fighters, you'd just like to see skill wherever you can. No offense dude, but IMO you've never been a true fan of the sport if you can't appreciate skill regardless of the weight of the fighters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 21:27:34 GMT -5
If your best 125 pounder can't finish a dude that no one has ever heard of, it's time to get rid of the class altogether. The UFC gives such a little fuck about it, they put it on a card and spent $15 on advertising. PLENTY of people know who he is, except you, proving once again that you aren't a true fan. You should just watch heavyweight kickboxing, as it's clear all you want to see is big dudes slug it out. Leave the MMA to the rest of us who appreciate true skill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 21:30:47 GMT -5
Mighty Mouse has cleaned house so effectively he helped send the two other "best" and "exciting" 125ers to 135. Without Dodson and Lineker, 125 has too few exciting fighters. I know Lineker can't make weight but why would be even try? No one is touching MM at 125. Being left with Benavidez and Cejudo at the top of 125 leaves a lot to be desired. There is not really any 125 pound fight I care about right now and I am usually one to defend these smaller fighters. The TUF idea was good and their are some solid fighters that the UFC can add from the show, but it's the worst division because of the dominating champion. Well to be fair, before this last season of TUF I kind of thought maybe MM was so dominant because there wasn't enough skill at Flyweight, but now I realize it's just cause he's THAT good, like Jones at LHW, GSP was at WW, Prime Anderson at MW etc. Did you watch the last season of TUF? And can you HONESTLY tell me you didn't enjoy some of those fights? I enjoyed the SHIT out of almost all of them and thought it was the best season yet. Almost every fight went to a finish. I would love to watch a lot of those guys fight eachother (the ones who didn't fight on the show) and the other guys at Flyweight. Didn't you enjoy any of those fights? I just don't understand some of you guys and your decision not to like small guys based on nothing but their size. If I see a good fight I know it, and there were some incredible fights on that season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 21:38:04 GMT -5
I bet you that if two 125ers were fighting and it was an all out war, but Locogato didn't know their size and was told they were 135ers or 145ers he'd be enjoying the shit out of it, then suddenly if he found out they were 125lbs he'd be like "oh this shit sucks" and convince himself he wasn't enjoying it in the first place haha.
It's like mind over matter: if you decide you will hate something you will just end up hating it cause you willed yourself into it LOL.
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Post by jonas0tt0 on Dec 12, 2016 11:32:17 GMT -5
I love when Toehold is left to only argue with himself, it's always the first sign that a thread has truly died.
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Post by 3xhile on Dec 14, 2016 15:23:56 GMT -5
If your best 125 pounder can't finish a dude that no one has ever heard of, it's time to get rid of the class altogether. The UFC gives such a little fuck about it, they put it on a card and spent $15 on advertising. Yep, I completely agree with you. This weight division hasn't had a memorable fight since it's existence. For me it's not the size of the fighers that matters but the fact that there are almost no finishes. For sure they all can go 5 rounds without slowing down but there is no surprise factor in terms of a sudden KO or a knockdown. Fortunately Dana didn't put this title fight on a PPV card. To be fair I don't think it's the fighters fault that this division isn't catching up with the casual fan. It's probably the weight being to light which makes KOs a rare ocasion. Also because of their speed, stamina and agility they are harder to submit I believe. What also helps is that the punching power is relatively lower compared to higher weightclasses so it's harder to soften them up before sinking in a choke or a triangle.
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Post by locogato11283 on Dec 15, 2016 21:47:21 GMT -5
How about a mixed tiny people class? Girls and the bitch ass dudes?
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